Researching the family of Emil DAMMANN in Berlin #germany #holocaust


I'm researching the family of Emil Dammann (1871-1937) and his wife Agnes Mosheim Dammann (1886-1936). Emil was a private banker in Berlin (Emil Dammann & Co, established 1906) and eventually lived in a fine villa in the Grunewald neighborhood of Berlin (Wissmannstrasse 17). I have a good grip on the Mosheim line from Eldagsen, Germany, but have been unable to determine Emil's parents. Since he was a successful private banker, perhaps his family had done that before him. His wife Agnes was the daughter of a private banker in Eldagsen, and her mother, Adele, was a Dammann from Gehrden, so perhaps that is where Emil came from, though I have not been able to establish this. Their three sons, Egon, Guenther and Joachim, were all victims of the Holocaust in 1941 and 1942. The JewGen family tree for them lists another child, Lau, born before 1915, but I cannot confirm this (and it does not list Joachim). Any help on how to make progress would be appreciated!
Richard Hatch
Providence, Utah

Zalman Kotzin, in California #lithuania

Ted Kotzin

I am looking for Zalman Kotzin, son of Moishe-Beer and grandson of Todres.  He seems to have been here in California around 1920, but it may have bee earlie4r or later.  Note the names; our family, as is common, hase several people with the same name.


Ted Kotzin

Torrance CA



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Additional Kiev Jewish metrical books posted to Ukrainian Archives website #ukraine #russia

Ted Gostin

This is an update to my post from last November 6, listing the Jewish metrical books (birth, marriage and death records) for Kiev city digitized by the Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in Kiev that go beyond the books digitized by Alex Krakovsky.  Alex's page of Kiev city vital records can currently be found at:

The Ukrainian Archives had previously digitized the Jewish vital records up to 1901.  They have now posted additional books up through 1912.  The full list of Kiev Jewish metrical books digitized by the Ukrainian Archives can be found at:  These include the following books not found on Alex's website.  

Kiev Jewish births 1902 - book 2

Kiev Jewish births 1903

Kiev Jewish births 1905

Kiev Jewish births 1906

Kiev Jewish births 1911 - books 1 & 2

Kiev Jewish births 1912 - books 1 & 2

Kiev Jewish marriages 1904

Kiev Jewish marriages 1908 - books 1 & 2

Kiev Jewish marriages 1910 - books 1 & 2

Kiev Jewish marriages 1912 - books 1 & 2

Kiev Jewish deaths 1907

Kiev Jewish deaths 1912 - books 1 & 2

As with the previous message, several things should be noted.  First, the item numbers  (sprava numbers in Alex's page) are not the same on Alex's website and the Archives website.  It appears that the books were renumbered when the archives began doing their own scans, and so the "sprava" ("delo" in Russian) numbers are no longer the same as those on Alex's website.  The images, however, are of the same books listed on Alex's website, just with different "sprava" numbers.

Second, while Alex's scans are in the format of one large PDF file with images of all pages of one book, the Ukrainian Archives scans are in the format of one PDF scan per page.  This makes it very difficult to quickly download a full year's book.  The book can be reviewed page by page online, however, rather quickly with a fast internet connection, and the scans are of very high resolution.  They are in grayscale, though, as opposed to the color scans often found on Alex's website.  

Finally, while I haven't listed them here, the divorce books have also been digitized.

With the books now digitized on these two websites, researchers of Jewish families in Kiev now have access to all surviving Jewish birth, marriage, divorce and death records from Kiev city between 1863 and 1912.  Since so many Jewish Ukrainian families had family that ended up in Kiev at one time or another, this is a great book to Jewish researchers.

Ted Gostin
Sherman Oaks, CA

Seeking records for Szepes Co. #slovakia


I am researching a KLAUS family who lived in various locations in Szepes County, Hungary, including Jurgow, Hunfalu/Huncovce and possibly Poprad and Kesmark from at least the 1830s to the 1880s. I feel that I have mined all the records from JG and LDS at this point, including the 1848 Jewish census. I understand that the 1869 census did not cover all Szepes Co. Jewish communities (e.g., Poprad). Does anyone have any suggestions where else records for Szepes county may be found? Is there anything new on or off line that is available? Any crowdsourcing ideas? "I hate to think I am at a dead end rather than a brick wall!"
Alisa Klaus
Santa Cruz, CA, USA

New Gesher Galicia Webinar From Jennifer Mendelsohn: Working Through Issues With Ashkenazi Jewish DNA #announcements #galicia #dna #education

Steven Turner

Dear Friends,

We at Gesher Galicia are thrilled to present for our members an exciting presentation by Ms. Jennifer Mendelsohn, one of the true all-stars on the genealogy circuit today,

Jennifer is just an example of some of the talent we have within our membership. She is a proud Galitzianer with two grandparents from the province with connections to the city of Krakow and the towns of Bolechow and Sniatyn. Jennifer is a seasoned journalist and ghostwriter whose work has appeared in numerous local and national publications including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time, People, Slate, and USA Today.

DNA has the potential to be an essential and exciting genealogical tool. But many Eastern European Jewish testers find their DNA results completely Overwhelming and unnavigable. Based on the popular 2017 Medium piece that has garnered more than 100,000 views, this talk will help those with Ashkenazi heritage learn to make sense of their DNA results. We'll cover why our match lists are so large, (hello, endogamy!) why all our matches seem to match each other (endogamy, again!), and how to spot the meaningful matches and separate them from the faux ones. Using real-life examples of DNA success, you'll learn techniques that will help you learn to work effectively with DNA to expand your tree.

Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking the link and understand that this presentation is pre-recorded for you to watch at your convenience.

You must be a member of Gesher Galicia to be able to access the webinars and other resources in the Members Portal. Please click on the link below to join or renew your membership to be able to view this presentation.

For more information on how to work with Ashkenazi Jewish DNA please see the tutorials in the December 2020 edition of The Galitzianer.

If you are unable to access the Members Portal, send your inquiries to: membership@...

Please email Gesher Galicia at info@... with any questions or comments.

We hope that you are enjoying this series that is just another benefit of your Gesher Galicia membership. Please stay tuned because we have a very exciting lineup of presenters to follow.

Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia 

Re: Divorce records #usa

A. E. Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara G. <bwgarrard@...>
Does anyone know whether you can get any information about divorce records from NY City without going to NYC? My grandparents divorced over 100 years ago.  If so is there a phone number since I can't find anything online.

Divorces were by borough not NYC as a whole so you need to know where it took place. A lot of divorces were done outside New York because they were easier to get in some places versus New York.

If it was in New York City, it is borough dependent if the file still exists. You would have to hire a researcher to go to the record room I believe. In Manhattan the files are stored off site and while it is not impossible to get the files it takes patience and frequent followups. A lot of the Brooklyn records are missing or were destroyed in a warehouse fire a few years ago. In Brooklyn I have been able to go to the courthouse and look at the microfiche of the index to find the case but they are filed by date and then name so it takes some hunting. Then they would let you see the minutes which in effect is an index of the case also on the microfiche. Then you have to go to the sub basement record room to request the file.

Problem is that most of the court houses are closed to the public due to the pandemic and it is unclear when they might reopen. Some of the record rooms are permitting researchers by appointment in very limited numbers.

Allan Jordan

DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Richard Cooper

As an experienced researcher but a newbie to DNA, I'm struggling with interpreting the results.
I did the basic autosomal test with Ancestry and uploaded my data to GEDmatch and MyHeritage for maximum coverage. I've matched the DNA of 13 other second and third cousins whom I knew already, and their matches fit the standard pattern.
So far, so good. But I've also found 70 or so people with whom I have no known connection and no shared surname, going back to when surnames were made mandatory for Eastern European Jews (c.1800), who share with me either more than 100cM of DNA or one segment longer than 35cM. That's more than many of my third cousins!
I know that because we Ashkenazi Jews are an endogamous population I may share a total amount of DNA with someone with whom I have no single recent common ancestor, but many repeated strands which might not converge later than perhaps 20 or more generations ago. But my question is this: does one shared segment of (say) 35 to 50 cM mean that we are almost certainly fifth cousins or closer? Or is it again just an indicator of endogamy?
Ric Cooper
Midhurst, UK
MILLET, ENGELBERG, BLUMENKEHL, SUSSWEIN, WACKS & PITERZIL from Tarnow, Dabrowa Tarnowska and Lezajsk
YAROSHEVSKY, SHAPOCHNIKOW & GRANITUR from Odessa and Zlatopol/Novomirgorod
LEWINSTEIN from Berdichev

Hebrew translation for headstone #poland #translation

Stephanie Shushan

I would like a translation of the Hebrew inscription on this headstone. 

Wyloga, Meir Eliezer

Stephanie Shushan

Researching: Wyloge, Shushansky, Wolheim, Rosenthaltz

Re: Connection between HOROWITZ and ABRAMOWITZ families-Novarodok/Hartford, Ct. #usa


We have corresponded previously on the Abramowitz side of the family, but I am not sure if I ever mentioned that New Haven also has a Jewish historical society.  There were several synagogues within a short distance of each other in New Haven in the early part of the 20th century and before. 
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Cluj Romania Jewish Community Asks NY Auction House Not to Sell Burial Registry #holocaust #romania

Jan Meisels Allen



The Jewish community of Cluj, Romania and the World Jewish Restitution Organization (  has asked US Brooklyn-NY based  auction house Kestenbaum & Company to halt the sale of a 19th century handwritten burial registry that it believes was stolen during the Holocaust. The memorial register is a record of Jewish burials in the city between 1836 and 1899. Bidding of the registry was scheduled for 18 February along with 16 other documents. The register is known as the Pinkas Klali D’Chevra Kadisha. The register is written in Hebrew and Yiddish. “Given the historically delicate nature of the items that are entrusted to us to handle, we take the matter of title to be one of the utmost importance,” Daniel Kestenbaum, the founding chairman of the auction house, wrote in an email. “Consequently, in respect to recently acquired information, manuscripts were withdrawn from our February Judaica auction.” The seller has agreed to discuss the matter further with the restitution organization, he said. It is valued between $5,000 and $7,000 USD.


Zoltan Tibori Szabo, the director of the Institute for Holocaust and Genocide Studies at the University of Cluj, said he is counting on the consignor’s good will. If made available to researchers, the newly discovered register will provide scholars with the names of the ancestors of those who were deported, he said.


The register was spotted online by a genealogy researcher, Robert Schwartz, president of the Jewish Community of Cluj. Schwartz is a Holocaust survivor from Cluj.  The Jewish community of Cluj currently has about 350  members and they argued in their letter that the registry was “illegally appropriated by unidentified persons”.  The community argues that because it was stolen, it “falls under the provisions of the 1947 Paris Peace Treaty and the 2009 Terezin Declaration”.


Besides its historical and artistic value, Schwartz is convinced the register would help in the task of reconstructing the past of a community that saw most of its archives destroyed or pillaged during the Holocaust.


This would fall under the 1947 Paris Peace Treaty and the 2009 Terezin Declaration, which was signed by 46 states including the US, Romania and Hungary, under whose administration Cluj was during most of WWII, the treaties provide for the restitution to their rightful owners of goods illegally appropriated by states or their citizens.  “According to the aforementioned peace treaty, they should be returned to the ‘community of survivors’, in this case, the Jewish Community of Cluj,” the letter from the community says.


The city of Cluj-Napoca – known as Kloyzenburg in Yiddish, Klausenburg in German, and Kolozsvár in Hungarian, was home to more than 16,000 Jews before 1944, when 18,000 Jews from the city and its surroundings were deported and most of them killed at the Auschwitz death camp.

Today, Cluj is the fourth-largest city in Romania.


Schwartz is an eminent chemist. He also asked the auction house to halt the sale of a similar register of the births and deaths of Jews from nearby Oradea.  In his letter to Kestenbaum and Co. he said, “private institutions like Kestenbaum have “a responsibility to make certain that claims to recover Nazi-confiscated property are resolved expeditiously” and cited international agreements on returning Nazi-looted cultural property and Holocaust-era assets.


To read more see:


Thank you to several Jewish genealogists who forwarded the article to me for sharing.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Canadian researcher needed to order 1927 naturalization record for Leib ZAROW (ZAROVSKY) #canada



I need the help of a Canadian researcher to order a naturalization record for a relative of mine: Leib ZAROW (ZAROVSKY) of Winnipeg, naturalized May 26, 1927. He was born in 1888 and died in 1959. 

I live in the U.S., and naturalization records can only be requested by Canadian citizens.


Thank you,

Ben Zitomer


Is there a SIG that covers Zakroczym? Later records not online. #poland

Stanley Diamond

 Although our online records currently end at 1905, JRI-Poland has also fully extracted the
vital records of Zakroczym up to 1920.  This constitutes an additional 1700 record entries.
To learn how to access these records, please write to zakroczym@....

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.  (Montreal, 514-484-0100)
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.

Is there a SIG that covers Zakroczym? #poland
From: relly800@...
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 17:58:22 EST
I could not find a FB SIG for Zakroczym and wonder if there is a group for descendants of the town.

Relly Coleman

Re: Is there a SIG that covers Zakroczym? #poland

Chuck Weinstein

JRI-Poland ( covers this town.

Chuck Weinstein

How Newspaper Databases Revealed a Poor Immigrant's Lecturing of a Movie Star about the "Slums" #usa #general

Michael Moritz

I've written the remarkable story of how a Jewish immigrant mother and product of the Lower East Side confronted via letter world-famous superstar Mary Pickford in 1916 about New York's "slums," and how modern newspaper databases helped piece together this fascinating story, you might enjoy! Link is here:

Michael Moritz
New York

Re: Boarders or Lodgers on Census Documents #general

Sherri Bobish


There is David Seligson's 1908 passenger manifest when he entered NY, bound for his brother in Minnesota, and he left behind his mother Sarah Seligson in Vilna.

Perhaps some of this info will be helpful in your search.

Sherri Bobish

Re: Pearl FINKELSTEIN missing death records 1891

Hilary Henkin

You might want to check with the Winnipeg Jewish Heritage Centre, at  The index to their archives is online.  There are several entries for Tevel/Tewel Finkelstein, including photos and a 1929 burial record.  The data itself is not online, you'll need to contact them to get copies, but they can confirm whether each item is relevant to your family.

When I found results for Rincover relatives, the Centre sent me copies of newspaper articles, including Yiddish with English translations, and photos of the matzevot, for a reasonable donation.  They were a pleasure to work with.

Hilary Henkin

Lublin, Poland:  KATZ;  JARMUSZ

On 2/19/2021 4:29 PM, Paul Silverstone wrote:
For some time I have been trying to find the death details of my
great-grandmother Pearl Finkelstein. Perhaps someone has an idea I have
not tried.
She arrived in New York in December 1890 with her son Joseph & his
family, on the s.s. Russia from Hamburg. Her age is given as 59. She
was a widow, her husband Mendel having died about 1880.
This age is unlikely because her son Tevel already in Winnipeg was born
about 1840.
The first child in the family named Pearl was born in 1895, so she had
died by that year.
Joseph's daughter wrote that she had arrived in Winnipeg which would
have been in January 1891. She is not listed in the census of 1891
taken in May.
A search of the Manitoba Archives reveals no death certificate for her.
The Jewish cemetery in Transcona is missing most of its gravestones
and there is no list of who is buried there.

I believe she must have died shortly after arriving in Winnipeg the
winter of 1891.

Paul Silverstone
West Vancouver, BC



Re: Where is 'Osernovitz, Austria'? #galicia #general

Aaron Slotnik


I wanted to provide an update to the group on this request since I think the findings are broadly applicable.  First, thanks to all who took their time to take a look and offer their help and suggestions.  In particular, Yale noticed that there is a very slight handwriting difference between the 'O' in Osernovitz and the 'O' in Ornstein.  That combined with the lack of likely candidates for the town other than my initial assumption of the well-known Czernowitz, caused me to revisit the Czernowitz vital records index (an amazing resource at if you were not aware and haven't used it).

I took a more careful look at the indexed records and indeed found his birth record as Ahron Ber Orenstein (I knew his Hebrew name from his matzeva as Aharon Dov).  The date is off by a few years from what is provided on his naturalization, but the month is the same and the mother's name is correct.  Since the parents did not have a civil marriage, this is the only record I've found that mentions the father's name, but I knew it was Ire / Uri and is listed here as Isser.

Can any of the German speakers in the group read Isser's occupation (  It's the record on December 23 for Ahron Ber in house 1225.

I also want to thank Giannis who was able to find the passenger manifests for the family.  Again, Benjamin's naturalization was partially correct . . . the ship name was correct, but the dates were not.  Since that is a common error I thought it was off by a year, focused on that ship and gave up when I couldn't find him even after looking at all of the indexed male names.  It turns out he was on the same ship the following month, indexed as Berl Hormstein/Homstein.  His wife and children followed through England about 2 years later, indexed as Crustein/Orustein.

So . . . keep looking . . . the records are out there!

Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA

Sunday, Feb 21st at 7:30EST--NJ Death Records and the Greater Trenton Cemetery Project #announcements

Elana Broch

NJ Death Records and The Greater Trenton Cemetery Project
Elana Broch, Regina Fitzpatrick & Mort Cohen

Trenton, NJ had a sizable, vibrant Jewish population of German, Russian Empire, and Hungarian immigrants beginning around 1850, but due to demographic changes and the exodus to nearby suburbs, few Jews remain in Trenton today.   Two incredibly useful resources remain for genealogists: the local cemeteries and the New Jersey State archives. The cemeteries have recently been restored by the Greater Trenton Jewish Cemetery Project (GTJCP). The State Archives has death records and family histories. This presentation will cover techniques for searching census and death records, and family histories in the NJ State Archives (some of which are online), and a description of the GTJCP.

I've included the zoom link below, but if you like the handouts before or after the presentation, please contact me directly via JewishGen (select 'Private' in the email reply).
Elana BrochPhD, MLIS

Feb 21, 2021 07:30 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

Re: Boarders or Lodgers on Census Documents #general

Jill Whitehead

Boarders and lodgers in the England and Wales Census, and likely Northern Irish Census, were often relations, siblings, cousins, nephews and nieces etc. In the 1891 Welsh Census, my grandfather Samuel Servian was staying with his elder married sister Leah Goldblat in Mold in North Wales. He was given as a boarder rather than brother. I have other examples in the family too, also from 1891, when Samuel's cousin Lazarus Karpowitz  was staying with Samuel's father and mother Joseph and Ada in Liverpool. Ada's maiden name was Karpowitz and Lazarus was her nephew.  Lazarus was acting as an apprentice to Joseph, but when Leah died of typhoid a few years later, Lazarus left for New York, and Joseph and Leah became stand- in parents for Leah's three young children. 

So do not dismiss boarders and lodgers, as often they were relations.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Understanding Vitals #ukraine #records



I have obtained a copy of Birth vitals for who I believe to be my grandfathers uncle, he was born in Odessa in January 1909.
There are two additional dates that have been applied to the records sometime after 1909. Do they have any relevance and/or imply a continued association with the synagogue?

Under the metric reference - there is the date 13th March 1930 - so he would have just turned 21.
Under the circumcision date - there is the additional date 30th October 1924.

Many thanks

Neil Ashton
London UK
Interested in Locations: Berdichev/Odessa.
Surnames: Nesanelis/Litinzisky (to name but two)