Re: US military marriage Nathanson Goldenberg in 1944 Cairo
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Sherri Bobish
Jeff, I assume that you've seen the record of the marriage of Nathan Nathanson & Eva Goldenberg in the Ancestry database U.S., Consular Reports of Marriages, 1910-1949. There are two pages with a lot of information. Regards, Sherri Bobish U.S., Consular Reports of Marriages, 191b0-1949 |
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Re: Why would a husband take his wife's surname?
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Herman Salmenson
I believe that when a man married into a prominent family for example a famous rabbinical family, the husband if he was a rabbi, would take on the father-in-laws surname so that he could continue the dynasty.
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Re: Why would a husband take his wife's surname?
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jps
Family lore has my ggfather (Przeworski) taking his wife's surname (Roth) due to the children being teased being called 'Sewer'. (NYC, about 1900)
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Re: Deciphering Gravestone
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kassells@...
Hi Lee,
I'd like to add another detail which is important when reading Yiddish in general and transliteration of names (persons or places) in Yiddish. The letter aleph renders in many cases the voyel o. So you read Koshkin in English and the Yiddish transliteration is Koshkin as well, and not Kashkin. Best regards Laurent Kassel Moreshet, Israel |
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Re: Looking for ZELTZER in Podolia or Kishinev
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stalactit@...
Hi Sam,
My husband’s maternal grandmother was Gita ZELTZER (1901-2005) from Bessarabia. The daughter of Haim Hersh ZELTZER (1858-1939) and Keila SHTERN (1860-1942) and a sibling to Tuba, Beila, Yosel, Lia, Rivka, Foitsa and Natan ZELTZER.
Let me know if you find a connection.
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Thanks,
Jane DOROGOYER
Researching
LANDSMAN from Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus;
SHEININ from Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus, Kyiv, Russia;
PRITIKIN from Oster, Ukraine;
KRONFELD from Bessarabia;
DOROGOYER from Bessarabia.
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Re: Why would a husband take his wife's surname?
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It doubt if this is the reason in this instance, but I know two men (unrelated), who in the last century took their wife's name at marriage because they were in business partnership with the wife's father and it was of benefit to have the same name, for financial and inheritance reasons. Both were in U.K.
Christine Hills Dublin, Ireland (Previously London, England) |
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Re: Why would a husband take his wife's surname?
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dan.efrat@...
One reason I can think of for the husband to take his wife's last name in the UK is because Fletcher may have made it easier when dealing with other people or the authorities, compared to the foreign Lazarus. Considering common intolerance to strangers/immigrants/Jews, using a less "foreign" name might have helped.
In my family I have the opposite reason for choosing a wife's last name. I have a cousin in Israel who's last name was originally Cohen. He adopted his wife's last name so he could have a less common name and less confusion when dealing with officials. His first name is pretty common Israeli name and Cohen is the most common last name for Jews in Israel. Think of being named John Smith and having to explain to the police each time that you are not the John Smith they are looking for. Dan Efrat Cherry Hill, NJ, USA (originally from Israel) |
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Re: Ancestral town of Lyantskoran/Zarechanka
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emfink@...
My great-grandmother, Esther Schwartz (married name Litt) was from there. Her parents were Isaac & Lena (born Polack). I'd also be interested in any resources.
Eric Fink Researching SCHWARTZ & POLACK from Zarechanka |
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Re: Deciphering Gravestone
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Valentin Lupu
Both are abbreviations of:
- our teacher, the Rabbi מורנו הרב - ritual slaughterer and inspector שוחט ובודק Valentin Lupu ISRAEL |
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Sharon E Siegel
If anyone is researching Surnames Rzezak, Pakentreger, Iglicka/Iglicki from Lodz or Zdunska Wola, Poland #names #poland # rabbi Shlomo (Szlama) Iglicki of Lodz (most of whom died in the Holocaust or experienced the horrible conditions on the run, later in Siberian river logging camp, and diseases and losses after taking a boat to Russian work farms, maybe we can compare research.
This has been a very powerful undertaking in the discoveries made of details left out by my husband's mom and dad in telling portions of their Holocaust survival and immigration by Marine Perch to NY in 1946. I just know we have relatives out there, but do not have names and locations. -- Sharon E. Siegel Port Jervis, NY USA |
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Re: Ukraine Group - Town of Tulchin, Sirota Family
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mvayser@...
David,
found some folks in 4 different places, 1875 census, 1921 pogrom list (possible relatives that didn't emigrate), and 1897 Odessa census (perhaps some relatives moved from Tulchin to Odessa), ------------------------ 1875 census: 226-80-1169 1875
Itsko-Leyb s.o. Khaim
sons: Yudko, Ios, Duvid
shtetl Gorishkovka
226-80-1167a 1875 district 9
Sirota Moshko-Azril s.o. Aron-Shmul - 48 y.o
son: Alter - 10 y.o.
registered at Novograd-Volynskiy, Volyn governorate
226-80-1167b 1875 district 3
Sirota Shaya-Leyb - 41 y.o.
sons:
Leyzor - 7 y.o.
Yankel - 5 y.o.
Abrum - 2 y.o.
registered at shtetl Markovka (?), Yampol district, Podolia governorate
The following 2 people had families in Odessa, as noted in the 1897 census (let me know if you need details on their families, age, etc):
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from a 1921 document titled
"Tulchin Jewish Public Committee for Aid to the affected by the Pogroms
Registration book of the population affected by the pogroms in the city of Tulchin"
Sirota Iosif s.o. Itsko-Leyb
Sirota Itsko s.o. Yudka
Sirota Moshe s.o. Gul.
Sirota Motel s.o Iosif
Sirota Nakhman s.o. Aron
Sirota Feyga d.o Iosif
Sirota Khuma d.o Yankel
Sirota Isrul s.o Pinkus
Sirota Luzer s.o. Zus
Sirota Moyshe s.o. Itsko
Sirota Khaim s.o. Igif.?
Sirota Hana d.o. Aizik
Sirota Ester d.o. Luzer
Sirota Brukha d.o. Gershko
Sirota Vitya d.o. Itsko
Sirota Perlya Mike Vayser |
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Re: Request for Information - Black family, Manchester 1940s - 1970s Inbox
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Rodney Eisfelder
Neil,
Gertrude Parkin adopted the surname Black in January 1958, at which time she was living at 5 Rugby Street, Cheetham. See: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/41305/page/882 Perhaps someone can find out who else was living at that address in 1958... I hope this helps, Rodney Eisfelder Melbourne, Australia |
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Gerald and Margaret
Why dont you contact The Together Plan, a charity based in London and Belarus, which helps the remaining Jews in the country become self-sufficient. One of their projects is to undertake genealogical research. Their huge advantage is they speak the local language and Russian, plus know the ways of the local bureaucracy.
www.thetogetherplan Margaret Levin , London UK |
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Deciphering Gravestone
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I'd appreciate some help deciphering a couple words on my great-grandfather's gravestone. What I've made out so far is: What I'm having trouble with are the |
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Why would a husband take his wife's surname?
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Denise Fletcher
It seems that one of my grandfather's sisters, Leah Fleiser / Fleser, married a Samuel Lazarus. As far as we know, Leah was born in Prienai, Lithuania in 1879, and Samuel was born in 1868. We don't know where or when they got married.
Leah and Samuel lived in Cardiff from at least 1912, and for some reason, Samuel apparently took Fletcher as his surname. All 3 of his sons had Lazarus as their middle name, though, and on HIS tombstone, his given names are Samuel Eliezer, in other words, Samuel Lazarus, but his surname is Fletcher. |
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Re: Charge for JewishGen? We Disagree!
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Relly coleman
I appreciate JewishGen being free for all. I use it often and sent my donation to support your work.
While Amazon Smile is a nice addition, at a rate of 0.5% per purchase, one would have to spend $20,000 to equal a $100 donation. Relly Coleman |
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Re: Dwore SILBERGLATT
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Susan&David
Myer Liss and Dora were reported as having moved West in 1923. I located them in Los Angeles in the census of 1930 and 1940. She is not difficult to identify in the census because she was born in England. David Rosen "Dora and Meyer are in the US census for both 1910 and 1920 in Springfield MA. (Indexed on Ancestry as Si?s in 1920 and Liss in 1920). No children in either year. Myer is in the Boston City directory for Boston in 1906 on Cunard St., This is the street where Dora lives on the marriage record. He Is in subsequent Boston City directories for 1907 & 8. He Is absent in1909. Myer is in Springfield MA City directories 1909 - 1922. In the 1923 directory it says "rem. west", i.e removed/moved West." On 12/22/2020 10:27 PM, Mike Coleman
via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
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Ukraine Group - Town of Tulchin, Sirota Family
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lernerdavid53.com@...
Please advise re: best ways, if any, to research vital records for the town. Our family left there circa 1896.
David Lerner
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Re: Request for Information - Black family, Manchester 1940s - 1970s Inbox
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Sherri Bobish
Neil, I did a search in the Ancestry database: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar. I searched for surname BLACK, passing on between 1970 -1980 in Salford. I got two hits. I would assume Gertrude's name would be in the probate record, as you said she received a considerable legacy. Ralph BLACK 6 Radford St, Salford (Note: name of street hard to read though) died November 22, 1972 probate London July 20th 53350 (pounds) 7601106287 Isaac BLACK 39 Murray St., Salford died August 12, 1979 Administration Manchester 11 September 10821 (pounds) Hope this helps, Sherri Bobish |
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Re: Information sought on GIMPEL Leopold & Janette
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Sherri Bobish
Shulamit, 975 N. Delaware St., the address they went to in 1951 was The Indianapolis Hebrew Congregation. IHC moved to the suburb of Meridian Hills. As an aside (have nothing to do with the Gimpel family) 975 N. Delaware St. was later used by Jim Jones. https://www.indystar.com/story/entertainment/2018/11/14/jim-jones-jonestown-massacre-cult-leader-indianapolis-tour-miracles-monkeys/1737578002/ Leopold & Janete naturalized in the 1950's in NY. Janete passed on in California in 1994. Her death cert should list the informant's name, and may possibly be a child or other relative. Below is a record of Janete GIMPEL in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 It contains her parents names. Name:Janete Gimpel[Janetta Gimpel][Janete Scheineeld]Gender:Female Race:White Birth Date:14 May 1909 Birth Place:Boryslan, Poland[Boryslan|]Death Date:19 May 1994 Claim Date:15 May 1968 Father:Markus ScheineeldMother:Genia SigulimCitizenship or Alien Status:U.S. citizen.Type of Claim:Evidence other than birth record submitted; U.S. citizen or alien allowed to work.Notes:14 May 1993: Name listed as JANETE GIMPEL; 24 Sep 1976: Name listed as JANETTA GIMPEL Hope this helps, Sherri Bobish |
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