Alexander Sharon wrote..
JGFF (Jewish Genealogy Family Finder) is available for a number of years,
beside the English, in Spanish, French, Spanish and Hebrew.

Ooops,

I did quote Spanish twice. Should read: Russian.

Alexander Sharon

Alexander Sharon wrote..
JGFF (Jewish Genealogy Family Finder) is available for a number of years,
beside the English, in Spanish, French, Spanish and Hebrew.

Ooops,

I did quote Spanish twice. Should read: Russian.

Alexander Sharon

Hi,
Some COVO >from France, Colombia and Israel would like to organize a
world meeting (cousinade as we say in french) of COVOs
Many of them don't even know where their family came from, some know
thay are >from Russe, Sofia, Thessaloniki.
If you are interested please answer privately at

daniel.covo@...

Thanks for all the good job to Jewishgen

Daniel COVO

Hi,
Some COVO >from France, Colombia and Israel would like to organize a
world meeting (cousinade as we say in french) of COVOs
Many of them don't even know where their family came from, some know
thay are >from Russe, Sofia, Thessaloniki.
If you are interested please answer privately at

daniel.covo@...

Thanks for all the good job to Jewishgen

Daniel COVO

Hi

I am seeking the name of the second wife of Rabbi Chaim Ozer
GRODZENSKY of Vilna , who was the daughter of Rabbi Meir ATLAS.
Rabbi Chaim Ozer's first wife was Leah Alte PADEVO-GRODNENSKY daughter
of Rabbi Eliyahu Eliezer Grodnensky and Malka Hinda PADUVA LIPKIN.
Malka Hinda was the daughter of Rabbi Israel Lipkin SALANTER and
Esther Feiga EISENSTEIN.

Rabbi Chaim Ozer had only one child Malka born to him by his first
wife, Leah Alte.

Shavua Tov - Have a good week
Sandra Levy - Jerusalem

RITTENBERG, GOLDSTEIN, TIKTIN / TYCKOCINSKI, ROZENBLA, PERELSTEIN,
WARSHOFSKY, KRAMER, BOYANER, BOBINSKY, ELLERT, ETKES, GINZBERG,
FRIDMAN, LIPKIN, ADLER, HOROWITZ, EISENSTEIN: Lithuania
BIRKHAHN, LEVINOFF, ZELCOVIN: Courland
LEVIN, COHEN, Neimann, Kutner: Brest (Belarus), Poland

Hi

I am seeking the name of the second wife of Rabbi Chaim Ozer
GRODZENSKY of Vilna , who was the daughter of Rabbi Meir ATLAS.
Rabbi Chaim Ozer's first wife was Leah Alte PADEVO-GRODNENSKY daughter
of Rabbi Eliyahu Eliezer Grodnensky and Malka Hinda PADUVA LIPKIN.
Malka Hinda was the daughter of Rabbi Israel Lipkin SALANTER and
Esther Feiga EISENSTEIN.

Rabbi Chaim Ozer had only one child Malka born to him by his first
wife, Leah Alte.

Shavua Tov - Have a good week
Sandra Levy - Jerusalem

RITTENBERG, GOLDSTEIN, TIKTIN / TYCKOCINSKI, ROZENBLA, PERELSTEIN,
WARSHOFSKY, KRAMER, BOYANER, BOBINSKY, ELLERT, ETKES, GINZBERG,
FRIDMAN, LIPKIN, ADLER, HOROWITZ, EISENSTEIN: Lithuania
BIRKHAHN, LEVINOFF, ZELCOVIN: Courland
LEVIN, COHEN, Neimann, Kutner: Brest (Belarus), Poland

Dear All,

I would love to correspond with any cousins descendant of Rabbi
Mordechai Kalman ROTTENBERG Z"L & Itta Rajzel RAPPAPORT Z"L. I
am working on updating the family tree and wanted to include all
new descendants. If you are not sure if you are related, please
email me anyway and I can check the family tree.

Please respond privately.
ronenk4@...
Ronen Kusne

Dear All,

I would love to correspond with any cousins descendant of Rabbi
Mordechai Kalman ROTTENBERG Z"L & Itta Rajzel RAPPAPORT Z"L. I
am working on updating the family tree and wanted to include all
new descendants. If you are not sure if you are related, please
email me anyway and I can check the family tree.

Please respond privately.
ronenk4@...
Ronen Kusne

I want to apologize for an error I made in attribution for one of the
noteworthy additions to JOWBR.

The records >from the Home of Peace Cemetery & Emanu-El Mausoleum in Colma,
CA. were submitted by Pierre Hahn and Rosanne Leeson >from The San Francisco
Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society (SFBAJGS)
http://www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs/

My apologies to Rosanne and Pierre and thanks to ALL of you who pointed it
out to us. :}

Nolan Altman

I want to apologize for an error I made in attribution for one of the
noteworthy additions to JOWBR.

The records >from the Home of Peace Cemetery & Emanu-El Mausoleum in Colma,
CA. were submitted by Pierre Hahn and Rosanne Leeson >from The San Francisco
Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society (SFBAJGS)
http://www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs/

My apologies to Rosanne and Pierre and thanks to ALL of you who pointed it
out to us. :}

Nolan Altman

We are currently transcribing records >from Michalovce that seem to cover
(not comprehensively) records >from 1840's to mid 1870's. These are not easy
to transcribe (not translate), but for those with roots in Michalovce, it
may be worth the effort.

You received a letter on December 17th asking if you would like to help with
this effort.

These records may (or may not) include records of people in whom you are
interested. You asked how to learn more and that is a way you could do so.

Sam Schleman
Vital Records
Project Coordinator


Subject: [h-sig] searching HOSCHANDER/HEUSCHANDOR in MICHALOVCE

Hello everyone

I am searching for members of the HOSCHANDER FAMILY in Michalovce.

If anyone has come across these names, or can give me

advice re how to learn more about them and/or other Hoschanders, I would
be most
grateful. Many thanks
- A J Friedlander

We are currently transcribing records >from Michalovce that seem to cover
(not comprehensively) records >from 1840's to mid 1870's. These are not easy
to transcribe (not translate), but for those with roots in Michalovce, it
may be worth the effort.

You received a letter on December 17th asking if you would like to help with
this effort.

These records may (or may not) include records of people in whom you are
interested. You asked how to learn more and that is a way you could do so.

Sam Schleman
Vital Records
Project Coordinator


Subject: [h-sig] searching HOSCHANDER/HEUSCHANDOR in MICHALOVCE

Hello everyone

I am searching for members of the HOSCHANDER FAMILY in Michalovce.

If anyone has come across these names, or can give me

advice re how to learn more about them and/or other Hoschanders, I would
be most
grateful. Many thanks
- A J Friedlander

On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 Ruth Kornbluth <rfenko@..."
asked the Galicia List:

Would it be more likely that a person arriving in America >from Galicia
about 1883 would be more apt to name his country of origin as Prussia
or Poland rather than Austria?

In 1883, Galicia was well established as a province of Austria.
People starting >from Galicia would more than likely have given
Austria as their country of origin. If someone listed Prussia or
Poland (presumably the Kingdom of Poland, a Russian possession)
as their country of origin, I think it likely that they were
saying they came >from there, not >from Galicia, at least in the
first instance.

"Origin" could mean "place of birth" or "starting point of
journey" and the two may not be the same place. People did move
around.

Hmm. By 1883 Prussia was but a Province of Germany, so Germany
not Prussia should have been the available option on country of
origin,. However, that change was much more recent than changes
involving Galicia so there might still have been some old habits
in play.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@...

On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 Ruth Kornbluth <rfenko@..."
asked the Galicia List:

Would it be more likely that a person arriving in America >from Galicia
about 1883 would be more apt to name his country of origin as Prussia
or Poland rather than Austria?

In 1883, Galicia was well established as a province of Austria.
People starting >from Galicia would more than likely have given
Austria as their country of origin. If someone listed Prussia or
Poland (presumably the Kingdom of Poland, a Russian possession)
as their country of origin, I think it likely that they were
saying they came >from there, not >from Galicia, at least in the
first instance.

"Origin" could mean "place of birth" or "starting point of
journey" and the two may not be the same place. People did move
around.

Hmm. By 1883 Prussia was but a Province of Germany, so Germany
not Prussia should have been the available option on country of
origin,. However, that change was much more recent than changes
involving Galicia so there might still have been some old habits
in play.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@...

I want to apologize for an error I made in attribution for one of the
noteworthy additions to JOWBR.

The records >from the Home of Peace Cemetery & Emanu-El Mausoleum in Colma,
CA. were submitted by Pierre Hahn and Rosanne Leeson >from The San Francisco
Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society (SFBAJGS)
http://www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs/

My apologies to Rosanne and Pierre and thanks to ALL of you who pointed it
out to us. :}

Nolan Altman

I want to apologize for an error I made in attribution for one of the
noteworthy additions to JOWBR.

The records >from the Home of Peace Cemetery & Emanu-El Mausoleum in Colma,
CA. were submitted by Pierre Hahn and Rosanne Leeson >from The San Francisco
Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society (SFBAJGS)
http://www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs/

My apologies to Rosanne and Pierre and thanks to ALL of you who pointed it
out to us. :}

Nolan Altman

Dear Cousins,

Rochelle Kaplan asked about finding out whether Philip Weinberg, a baby
who was about 6 months old, died en route to America aboard the
Noordam, which arrived at Ellis Island on May 23, 1905.

Death at sea can be a complicated issue. Of course Rochelle should
carefully check the ship manifest for additional information, including
the first and last pages. However, that might have only a simple
notation like "died at sea."

"Pronouncements" of deaths at sea are usually made by a doctor at
the ship's next port of call, so the N.Y.C. death vital records should
be checked for a death certificate. Keep in mind that there's a chance
that the ship may have stopped in Boston or elsewhere before New York -
these should be at one end of the manifest pages but the only difference
in these pages may be the name of the port written at the top.

Saul Issroff pointed out yesterday that if the ship was a British vessel,
a report made back across the Atlantic to English authorities as well.
I believe that at least for some of the time, this applied only to English
citizens, and not to citizens of other countries who were passing through
England on their way to America, even if they stayed in England for a
while.

There are also some previous messages about this subject in the
Discussion Group's archives.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Dear Cousins,

Rochelle Kaplan asked about finding out whether Philip Weinberg, a baby
who was about 6 months old, died en route to America aboard the
Noordam, which arrived at Ellis Island on May 23, 1905.

Death at sea can be a complicated issue. Of course Rochelle should
carefully check the ship manifest for additional information, including
the first and last pages. However, that might have only a simple
notation like "died at sea."

"Pronouncements" of deaths at sea are usually made by a doctor at
the ship's next port of call, so the N.Y.C. death vital records should
be checked for a death certificate. Keep in mind that there's a chance
that the ship may have stopped in Boston or elsewhere before New York -
these should be at one end of the manifest pages but the only difference
in these pages may be the name of the port written at the top.

Saul Issroff pointed out yesterday that if the ship was a British vessel,
a report made back across the Atlantic to English authorities as well.
I believe that at least for some of the time, this applied only to English
citizens, and not to citizens of other countries who were passing through
England on their way to America, even if they stayed in England for a
while.

There are also some previous messages about this subject in the
Discussion Group's archives.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Dear Cousins,

Deb Holman asked where to find proof of a name change in New YorkCity.

In New York State, name changes can be done in either the civil or
criminal divisions of State Supreme Court. In the Civil Division in
Manhattan at 111 Center Street in room 118, I remember the ledger or index
books being thin, with only one or two years of name changes in each, and
they must be requested at a window, so the procedure is somewhat
cumbersome. At the Criminal Division at 60 Center Street in room 103B,
it's easier because many years are in much thicker ledgers. In Kings County
(Brooklyn), the situation is similar, with indexes in both court divisions.
Estelle Guzik's book "Genealogical Resources in New York" clearly explains
where the indices and the records are located.

However, it should be noted that the name change process is time-consuming
and costs a few dollars in notary and court fees that our immigrant
ancestors may not have had. It was cheaper and more convenient to
change a name just by calling oneself something different, and then,
of course, there's no documentation. Decades ago one didn't have to show
a driver's license, social security card, or birth certificate to open a
bank account or do other 'official' business, so formal name changes
weren't required like they are nowadays. Judging >from what is probably
millions of people who were born in Eastern Europe but lived in the U.S.
with names like Morris, Phillip, Frances, and Sadie, without evidence of
a name change, I suspect that the informal method was done far more often.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Dear Cousins,

Deb Holman asked where to find proof of a name change in New YorkCity.

In New York State, name changes can be done in either the civil or
criminal divisions of State Supreme Court. In the Civil Division in
Manhattan at 111 Center Street in room 118, I remember the ledger or index
books being thin, with only one or two years of name changes in each, and
they must be requested at a window, so the procedure is somewhat
cumbersome. At the Criminal Division at 60 Center Street in room 103B,
it's easier because many years are in much thicker ledgers. In Kings County
(Brooklyn), the situation is similar, with indexes in both court divisions.
Estelle Guzik's book "Genealogical Resources in New York" clearly explains
where the indices and the records are located.

However, it should be noted that the name change process is time-consuming
and costs a few dollars in notary and court fees that our immigrant
ancestors may not have had. It was cheaper and more convenient to
change a name just by calling oneself something different, and then,
of course, there's no documentation. Decades ago one didn't have to show
a driver's license, social security card, or birth certificate to open a
bank account or do other 'official' business, so formal name changes
weren't required like they are nowadays. Judging >from what is probably
millions of people who were born in Eastern Europe but lived in the U.S.
with names like Morris, Phillip, Frances, and Sadie, without evidence of
a name change, I suspect that the informal method was done far more often.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.