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DNA Success Stories #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
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JRI Poland #Poland DNA Success Stories #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
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agroll@...

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DNA Success Stories #lithuania

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania DNA Success Stories #lithuania

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@...

Visit our new homepage: www.JewishGen.org


DNA Success Stories #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@...

Visit our new homepage: www.JewishGen.org


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland DNA Success Stories #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@...

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DNA Success Stories #lodz #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
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F 646.437.4328
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Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland DNA Success Stories #lodz #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

On Friday, Ann Rabinowitz (assistant blog coordinator) posted the
first of what will become regularly posted DNA success stories on
the JewishGen blog. These stories will offer family researchers
encouragement and greater understanding of DNA testing, which has
become a popular part of the genealogical research world since its
inception.

To view the article, please visit
http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dna-success-story.html

Best regards,

Avraham Groll
Administrator of JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@...

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WWI expulsion of Jews from Galicia #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I have a number of yizkor books and memoirs that mention personal
details of how the Russians expelled Jewish citizens of Galician
towns that they captured in WWI and how they and their neighbors
were suddenly uprooted with only a few possessions in hand. I know
of no systematic study of where the hundreds and thousands of
refugees went.

from personal knowledge, my relatives were widely dispersed in
Europe: Hungary, Italy, Vienna, and various places in Germany were
points of refuge mentioned in correspondence as I was writing a
book about one branch of my family history in the 1980s. Some who
returned to their small towns found the destruction so great that
they moved to larger nearby communities.

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD
author, The Galitzianers: The Jews of Galicia: 1772-1918


Re: large number flee the Russians during WWI #galicia

Renate Krakauer
 

My father's family fled also. They were >from Stanislawow and went
to Vienna where they spent the war years. They returned after the
war. I think there was definitely fear of persecution and it was
well founded. However, my mother's family stayed because my
maternal grandfather was kidnapped for the Russian army, as were
many other men. I don't know any details except that eventually
my grandfather escaped.

Renate Krakauer
Toronto, ON

-----Original Message-----
From: Risa Mandelberg [mailto:info@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:44 PM
To: Gesher Galicia SIG
Subject: [galicia] large number flee the Russians during WWI

Dear Barry Scheer and Galicia Digest,

I read your email to jewishgen.org about your question "Did a large number
of people flee the Russians and is there any evidence that Jews feared
persecution?"

My father-in-law N. Joseph Mandelberg would tell a story about his family
fleeing their town Peremyschlany near Lvov in advance of the Russian army
(fear of a possible pogrom.) The story goes like this: His parents and 3
brothers fled with their horse and wagon. Not far into their flight, his
father realized he had forgotten something in the house. So his father
returned with the horse while everyone waited along the road. When hisfather
got to the house, he found that his non-Jewish neighbors had torn up the
house, especially the floor boards looking for treasure.

My father-in-law's story is anecdotal evidence. If you read S.
Ansky's book (He wrote "The Dybbuk"), "The Enemy at his Pleasure", he
documents the travails of the Jews of Galicia during WWI by the Russian
army. It was originally published in Warsaw in 1925.
The translated English copy was published in 2002 by Henry Holt and Company,
LLC. The editor and translator, Joachim Neugroschel, wrote an interesting
forward about the historical "omission" of the "campaign of brutalization by
the Russian army that involved wholesale expulsions and massacres (despite
the presence of half a million Jews serving in the czar's army).
Approximately 600,000 Jews were deported >from their homes; the deportations
were especially vicious near the front lines."

Risa Mandelberg
Encino, California

Researching: Rohatyn, Kalush, Wertelka, Berizin, Vienna, Peremyschlany,
Paris, ZEIDLER, KAPLAN, RUDOLF, MANDELBERG, DOBOW, FELDMAN, SCHECHTER

Barry Scheer <barryscheer@...> wrote:

I am looking for the reason why my father's sister, Klara Scheer, went from
her home in Brody in 1916 to Lvov and apparently returned home following the
Armistice.

I know that the Russian Army invaded Brody twice, the second time in June
1916, and advanced as far as Lvov. Is it possible that she was a refugee?
Her parents remained in Brody. Did a large number of people flee the
Russians and is there any evidence that Jews feared persecution?....

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: large number flee the Russians during WWI #galicia

Renate Krakauer
 

My father's family fled also. They were >from Stanislawow and went
to Vienna where they spent the war years. They returned after the
war. I think there was definitely fear of persecution and it was
well founded. However, my mother's family stayed because my
maternal grandfather was kidnapped for the Russian army, as were
many other men. I don't know any details except that eventually
my grandfather escaped.

Renate Krakauer
Toronto, ON

-----Original Message-----
From: Risa Mandelberg [mailto:info@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:44 PM
To: Gesher Galicia SIG
Subject: [galicia] large number flee the Russians during WWI

Dear Barry Scheer and Galicia Digest,

I read your email to jewishgen.org about your question "Did a large number
of people flee the Russians and is there any evidence that Jews feared
persecution?"

My father-in-law N. Joseph Mandelberg would tell a story about his family
fleeing their town Peremyschlany near Lvov in advance of the Russian army
(fear of a possible pogrom.) The story goes like this: His parents and 3
brothers fled with their horse and wagon. Not far into their flight, his
father realized he had forgotten something in the house. So his father
returned with the horse while everyone waited along the road. When hisfather
got to the house, he found that his non-Jewish neighbors had torn up the
house, especially the floor boards looking for treasure.

My father-in-law's story is anecdotal evidence. If you read S.
Ansky's book (He wrote "The Dybbuk"), "The Enemy at his Pleasure", he
documents the travails of the Jews of Galicia during WWI by the Russian
army. It was originally published in Warsaw in 1925.
The translated English copy was published in 2002 by Henry Holt and Company,
LLC. The editor and translator, Joachim Neugroschel, wrote an interesting
forward about the historical "omission" of the "campaign of brutalization by
the Russian army that involved wholesale expulsions and massacres (despite
the presence of half a million Jews serving in the czar's army).
Approximately 600,000 Jews were deported >from their homes; the deportations
were especially vicious near the front lines."

Risa Mandelberg
Encino, California

Researching: Rohatyn, Kalush, Wertelka, Berizin, Vienna, Peremyschlany,
Paris, ZEIDLER, KAPLAN, RUDOLF, MANDELBERG, DOBOW, FELDMAN, SCHECHTER

Barry Scheer <barryscheer@...> wrote:

I am looking for the reason why my father's sister, Klara Scheer, went from
her home in Brody in 1916 to Lvov and apparently returned home following the
Armistice.

I know that the Russian Army invaded Brody twice, the second time in June
1916, and advanced as far as Lvov. Is it possible that she was a refugee?
Her parents remained in Brody. Did a large number of people flee the
Russians and is there any evidence that Jews feared persecution?....

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia WWI expulsion of Jews from Galicia #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I have a number of yizkor books and memoirs that mention personal
details of how the Russians expelled Jewish citizens of Galician
towns that they captured in WWI and how they and their neighbors
were suddenly uprooted with only a few possessions in hand. I know
of no systematic study of where the hundreds and thousands of
refugees went.

from personal knowledge, my relatives were widely dispersed in
Europe: Hungary, Italy, Vienna, and various places in Germany were
points of refuge mentioned in correspondence as I was writing a
book about one branch of my family history in the 1980s. Some who
returned to their small towns found the destruction so great that
they moved to larger nearby communities.

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD
author, The Galitzianers: The Jews of Galicia: 1772-1918


Re: large number flee the Russians during WWI #galicia

J.C.Keiner <j.c.keiner@...>
 

If you read Norman Stone's "The Eastern Front", one of the few
English language authoritative studies of World War I which
focuses on the battles between the German and Austro-Hungarian
armies against the Russians which ranged over Galicia and other
parts of Poland, you'll find documented the impact of these
battles, which devastated many shtetl villages on the front line
as it moved back and forward, particularly during 1915-1916.

My father's home shtetl of Rcziepeniek, near Gorlitz, Galicia was
one of these villages. It was burnt down during a front line
battle of 1915 and he and my grandparents became refugees,
returning to rebuild the village after the end of these battles.
My grandfather (aged in his 40s) was subsequently drafted into the
A-H army and fought in the great Isonzo battles in 1916-17, on the
Yugoslav-Italian mountain border, which were the Eastern front
equivalent of the Somme.

The Jews were terrified of the Cossack regiments who were part of
the Russian army, because of the historic role of Cossacks in
pogroms. But the primary reason for flight was because the
villages were on the front line of major WWI battles.

J. C. Kelner

Barry Scheer <barryscheer@...> wrote:

I am looking for the reason why my father's sister, Klara Scheer,
went >from her home in Brody in 1916 to Lvov and apparently
returned home following the Armistice....


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: large number flee the Russians during WWI #galicia

J.C.Keiner <j.c.keiner@...>
 

If you read Norman Stone's "The Eastern Front", one of the few
English language authoritative studies of World War I which
focuses on the battles between the German and Austro-Hungarian
armies against the Russians which ranged over Galicia and other
parts of Poland, you'll find documented the impact of these
battles, which devastated many shtetl villages on the front line
as it moved back and forward, particularly during 1915-1916.

My father's home shtetl of Rcziepeniek, near Gorlitz, Galicia was
one of these villages. It was burnt down during a front line
battle of 1915 and he and my grandparents became refugees,
returning to rebuild the village after the end of these battles.
My grandfather (aged in his 40s) was subsequently drafted into the
A-H army and fought in the great Isonzo battles in 1916-17, on the
Yugoslav-Italian mountain border, which were the Eastern front
equivalent of the Somme.

The Jews were terrified of the Cossack regiments who were part of
the Russian army, because of the historic role of Cossacks in
pogroms. But the primary reason for flight was because the
villages were on the front line of major WWI battles.

J. C. Kelner

Barry Scheer <barryscheer@...> wrote:

I am looking for the reason why my father's sister, Klara Scheer,
went >from her home in Brody in 1916 to Lvov and apparently
returned home following the Armistice....


Re: Galician house numbers but no street names #galicia

Israel P
 

In Lwow, the street name (and house number) appears in the same
space where the house number appears in similar records >from
small east Galician towns - just to the right of the date.

I expect that many of us would be pleased to know where you
found bmd records >from Brody for the period 1880-1900.

The smaller towns didn't have much need for street names and if
they had them, they were generally not listed in vital records.
I understand that as a rule, house numbers were determined by the
order of construction and did not necessarily reflect location.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

On 16 Nov 2009 at 0:04, Gesher Galicia SIG digest wrote:

Both myself and others have copies of bmd's going back to about
1880-1900s which list a town name and a house number in Lviv, in
Brody and in small towns/villages not far >from these places as
well. None of these documents list a street name.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Galician house numbers but no street names #galicia

Israel P
 

In Lwow, the street name (and house number) appears in the same
space where the house number appears in similar records >from
small east Galician towns - just to the right of the date.

I expect that many of us would be pleased to know where you
found bmd records >from Brody for the period 1880-1900.

The smaller towns didn't have much need for street names and if
they had them, they were generally not listed in vital records.
I understand that as a rule, house numbers were determined by the
order of construction and did not necessarily reflect location.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

On 16 Nov 2009 at 0:04, Gesher Galicia SIG digest wrote:

Both myself and others have copies of bmd's going back to about
1880-1900s which list a town name and a house number in Lviv, in
Brody and in small towns/villages not far >from these places as
well. None of these documents list a street name.


EPSTEIN FAMILY #ukraine

franck
 

Bernard Zolty's god-father was David Epstein. David
Epstein's father was Euphraïm Epstein who was gone in U.S.A in 1920 - 1925.
Today, the Epstein Family doesn't know the fate of Euphraïm Epstein ?

David Epstein is born in Jerusalem in 1894 and is dead in
Saint-Quentin (Aisne - France) in 1960. The Epstein family became from
Minsk.

Best regards,

Franck d'Almeida-Zolty (Bernard Zolty's nephew).


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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine EPSTEIN FAMILY #ukraine

franck
 

Bernard Zolty's god-father was David Epstein. David
Epstein's father was Euphraïm Epstein who was gone in U.S.A in 1920 - 1925.
Today, the Epstein Family doesn't know the fate of Euphraïm Epstein ?

David Epstein is born in Jerusalem in 1894 and is dead in
Saint-Quentin (Aisne - France) in 1960. The Epstein family became from
Minsk.

Best regards,

Franck d'Almeida-Zolty (Bernard Zolty's nephew).


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Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters List #ukraine

David Schreiber
 

My maternal grandfather, David Kaylo, entered the US as David Hokails which seems to have been an erroneous recording of Hokailo. I had always heard that the family name was something like Hookaylo, but had not until recently found any evidence to that effect. All of the siblings who came here seem to have instantly changed their names to Kaylo except one, who seems to have retained Hookaylo. My grandfather's documents have a variety of spellings for his home town which I have recently distilled down to being Uman, Ukraine. In addition, a woman who I believe to be his sister, had on her Declaration of Intention that her last residence was Umau and her birthplace was Buki, also in Ukraine. Also, David's headstone says that his father's name was Chaim. Finally, armed with this info, I ran across the below info in the Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters List.

GUKAJLO, Mordko   Khaimov   1907 / 574 property�, 3 Uman (g) 1 ch    Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Shama       1907 / 571 property�200 Rubles   Uman (g) 2 ch Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Arij   Srulev   1907 / 570 property�, 3   Buki (m)    Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Alter   Mordkov   1907 / 160 property�400 Rubles   Buki (m) Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Mordko   Khaimov   1907 / 576 property�150 Rubles   Ivanka (m) Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Avrum     1906 / 246      �   Fastov   Vasil'kov   Â

I'm not sure what the significance of some of the info is, but the citations of Uman and Buki seem to be important and Khaimov appears to track with David's father's name. Two questions: Does anyone know what the numbers before the word "property" mean? What are the rubles for, a tax or property value, a poll tax, etc.?

Also, since this information is both new to me and sketchy, as well as originally coming >from overseas, does anyone have any idea where I would proceed >from here with this? Thanks in advance.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

Researching: KAYLO, HOOKAYLO, GUKAJLO, HOKAILS, HOKAILO or other variants >from Uman, Ukraine and vicinity

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters List #ukraine

David Schreiber
 

My maternal grandfather, David Kaylo, entered the US as David Hokails which seems to have been an erroneous recording of Hokailo. I had always heard that the family name was something like Hookaylo, but had not until recently found any evidence to that effect. All of the siblings who came here seem to have instantly changed their names to Kaylo except one, who seems to have retained Hookaylo. My grandfather's documents have a variety of spellings for his home town which I have recently distilled down to being Uman, Ukraine. In addition, a woman who I believe to be his sister, had on her Declaration of Intention that her last residence was Umau and her birthplace was Buki, also in Ukraine. Also, David's headstone says that his father's name was Chaim. Finally, armed with this info, I ran across the below info in the Kiev Gubernia Duma Voters List.

GUKAJLO, Mordko   Khaimov   1907 / 574 property�, 3 Uman (g) 1 ch    Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Shama       1907 / 571 property�200 Rubles   Uman (g) 2 ch Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Arij   Srulev   1907 / 570 property�, 3   Buki (m)    Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Alter   Mordkov   1907 / 160 property�400 Rubles   Buki (m) Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Mordko   Khaimov   1907 / 576 property�150 Rubles   Ivanka (m) Uman    Â
GUKAJLO, Avrum     1906 / 246      �   Fastov   Vasil'kov   Â

I'm not sure what the significance of some of the info is, but the citations of Uman and Buki seem to be important and Khaimov appears to track with David's father's name. Two questions: Does anyone know what the numbers before the word "property" mean? What are the rubles for, a tax or property value, a poll tax, etc.?

Also, since this information is both new to me and sketchy, as well as originally coming >from overseas, does anyone have any idea where I would proceed >from here with this? Thanks in advance.

David Schreiber
Melbourne, FL

Researching: KAYLO, HOOKAYLO, GUKAJLO, HOKAILS, HOKAILO or other variants >from Uman, Ukraine and vicinity

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