Re: Whre is Oranif? #russia


Is it possible that it's not Oranif, but Orativ/Oratov?  Israel's 3rd PM Levi Eshkol was born there.  In the 19th century, it was part of the Lipovets uezd, Kiev governorate, currently in the Vinnytsa oblast of Ukraine.

If you send me her last name, I can check if it was present in the 1897 census documents.  Hopefully, it's unique enough.

Mike Vayser

Re: Yiddish given name Doda #yiddish


In rabbincal sources (names for divorces) the female name Doda is listed as a Sefardi name - not Yiddish.

There were Saferdi communities in south-eastern Europe.

David Shapiro
I'm not sure what you are trying to state by that - that one source only has Sefardi women with that name, which means that there is no possibility that Azhkenazim used this name as well?  As I mentioned in my previous post, there are about 3 pages of victims on Yad Vashem, vast majority of them are from Eastern Europe.   The name was used by both men and women.  I suspect that the male version is a nickname for David, as it sounds close to other Azhkenazi nicknames like Dodik, Dodiya, Dodka, etc.

Mike Vayser

Re: researching: KIRZNER/BAYLIN from Slavuta/Volhynia region #ukraine

Gerald Kirzner

My name is Gerald Kirzner. I was intrigued by the research on my family name. My father came to Windsor Canada before the war where he had some cousins and was the only one of his nuclear family to survive. His father, my grandfather was Zorach Kirzner ( named after him). The family lived in Lunenic Poland south of Minsk and East of Pinsk
Appreciate any other info out there

Re: Need help with Emilia Felsberg and Solomon Oppenheimer parents #germany

Michele Lock

There appears to be at least 3 men named Solomon Oppenheimer in Philadelphia and nearby areas, in the early 1900s. One of them was married to a woman named Harriet, a second Solomon was married to a woman with the maiden name Fanny Shoger, and a third Solomon was married to a woman named Bertha.

Which of these Solomons is the correct person? And what are the names of the children of the correct Solomon?
Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: 2022 Cohanic Lineages Report Available For Download; Study Open #rabbinic

Judith Sternberg

My paternal grandfather, Avraham Rapaport, told me when I was in high school, that we are related to the great Rabbi, Solomon Judah Loeb HaCohen Rapaport from the Ukraine / Prague, Czech Republic area. I've only been able to go back as far as my great grandfather, Leizer Rapaport from Mihaileni & Bacau Romania. I do not know where he was actually born. Will I find Solomon Rapaport in the report?
Thank you;
Judith Rapaport Sternberg
Boise, Idaho
Researching: Rapaport from Moldova/Romania, Nitzberg from Brest-Litovsk, Winn / Wein from Vilneas, Sternberg, Steindel, Heirshberg from Zhitomyr, Ukraine.
Judith Sternberg
Boise, Idaho  USA

Re: Yad Vashem Kristallnacht Photograph Memorial #announcements #holocaust #israel #photographs


This is a wonderful resource. There are so many who lived but were unable to tell their stories. My friend, who was born in 1929 in Austria, was too traumatized to record his story. He remembered Kristallnacht well. The synagogue on his street was looted and prayer books (and perhaps other items) burned in the street. He was lucky. His family managed to leave Austria during the week of the Anschluss. He and his two younger brothers lived in foster care in Wales for a year while their mother got settled and their father served in the Royal Army. I can only imagine how hard it was to be separated from one's parents and placed where one did not know the language. Later he emigrated to Israel and then to America. He always said he felt most comfortable in Israel. 

Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Whre is Oranif? #russia

Hap Ponedel


If you look closely to all these links using the capital G from Sherri's post you can see that all of these places are in present day Ukraine. But if we consider where the historical borders existed before WWI then we can separate these locatalities into Austrian Empire or Russian. All of these but two are actually fairly proximal to Ivano-Frankivsk which was called Stanislawow or Stanislau (Ivano-Frankivs'k [Ukr], Stanisławów [Pol], Stanisle [Yid], Ivano Frankovsk [Rus], Stanislau [Ger], Iwano Frankowsk, Stanislav, Stanislo, Stanislavov, Stanyslaviv, Stanislowow) and located in Austrian Galicia. The last one is also in Galicia but close to the top of the province near the Russian border, north of Sokal. If you are quite sure that your ancestor was from Russia then you would probably do best to focus on the location number 2, which I found to be in the former province of Volynia, (Imperial) Russia, not far from the Galician (Austrian-Russian) border. I can plot this on a historical map if you are interested. 

Hap Ponedel
Eugene, OR

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #lithuania #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake

“The Old Cemetery” is a section from a chapter titled “The Eishishok Surroundings” from the Yizkor book of Eišiškes, Lithuania. It was among the places that attracted youths of the area with their “atmosphere of myth and mystery.”
Overgrown with low wild bushes and with most of the tombstones deeply sunken in the ground, the cemetery had not been used for over 200 years after it had become too small to absorb all the village dead. It became surrounded by fields of gentiles who began annexing the land and ploughing it, despite pleas not to desecrate the memories of the righteous buried there for centuries.
One hot summer Sabbath, a group of youths — hearts thumping with fear — decided to risk the trip through hostile gentile territory to see the old cemetery with their own eyes. An “expert” among them pointed to places where the peasants had tried to plow the sacred ground.
And that recalled a legend about the miracle that put an end to the cemetery’s desecration.

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Trying to Find the Relatives of Yaaqub Moshe Sayegh From Baghdad #sephardic #names

Abuwasta Abuwasta

Dear Genners,

Need your help in finding the relatives of Yaaqub Moshi Sayegh who lived in Batawin neighborhood of Baghdad, Iraq in the late 1940s. He was born around the turn of the 20th century and was

probably in business. Batawin was quite a new neighborhood where upper/middle class Jews lived. I did not find his name in the register of 38,000 Baghdadi Jews whose Iraqi nationality was

withdrawn from them because the left to Israel. This makes me to believe that he either stayed in Iraq or left later to  some other destination. In the meantime I found in a list of Jewish businesses

which were damaged in the 1941 pogrom in Baghdad (the Farhud) the name of Haim Moshi Sayegh  who was a jeweler  and had his shop in Souq Al Sarai. He is also absent from the  above

mentioned register. He may be a brother of Yaaqub. He may have also left at a certain stage to some destination in the world. I enclose a screen shot of the document in which Haim  is

mentioned. My inquiries among the Baghdadis in Israel have not produced so far any results.

Jacob Rosen

November 29 on Zoom: Launch of the DNA Reunion Project at the Center for Jewish History #dna #holocaust

Moriah Amit

Tuesday, November 29 at 12:30 pm ET

Tune in for the official launch of the DNA Reunion Project at the Center for Jewish History, a new worldwide effort by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute to reunite families separated by the Holocaust. Jennifer Mendelsohn and Adina Newman, professional genealogists with a niche expertise in Ashkenazi Jewish genetic genealogy, will discuss prior cases they have solved using DNA, including identifying the unknown father of a baby born in a concentration camp, tracking down the biological family of a toddler found in a Polish orphanage after the war, and identifying the unknown father of a child survivor of Theresienstadt. That child survivor, Jackie Young, will join Mendelsohn and Newman in a conversation moderated by Daniel Mendelsohn, author of The Lost: A Search for Six of Six Million.

The DNA Reunion Project at the Center for Jewish History will make commercial DNA kits available free of charge to Holocaust survivors or their children and will serve as a central genealogical resource where survivors with complex case histories can avail themselves of expert genetic genealogical consultation. Learn more about how DNA testing can restore family to a population ravaged by genocide and find out how to apply or support this vital initiative.

Ticket Info: Pay what you wish; register here for a Zoom link

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Librarian, Center for Jewish History
New York, NY

Help needed with translation from Polish #poland #translation

Emanuel Binder

Please heip  me with translation of three birth records of ZALCSZTAJN family from Opole Lubelskie, Lublin Voivodeship.
Thank you very much  
Emanuel Binder
Haifa, Israel

Re: LitvakSIG Vilnius District Research Group #lithuania

Carol Hoffman

Philip Shalom,

In answer to you question regarding the following shtetls in Lithuania, see below for information and appropriate URL:

Kretinga is in the Panevezys District, Kaunas Guberniya.

Gordz is Gargzdai and is in the Telsiai District Research Group.

Memel is Klaipeda is in the Klaipeda District Research Group, Kaunas Guberniya.

Sadly I cannot find a place named Trisket, not even in the Gazeteer.

I suggest that you go to the search page of the LitvakSIG All Lithuania Database, and start looking for your ancestors. Read the introduction to help you get started.

Happy searching and all the best,

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President

Re: Whre is Oranif? #russia

Sherri Bobish


A soundex search for town Oranif in Ukraine at The Jewishgen Gazetteer
finds these possibilities:
(Native names in BOLD)
Feature Type & Number Coordinates
(Click for JewishGen Resource Map)
Map Country Distance/Direction
from reference point
10 mile radius
Stantsiya Ugrynov, Ugrynuv, Uhrynów railroad station (-1057060) 48°57' N 24°43' E G Ukraine 278.8 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Uhryniv, Угринів, Ugrinov, Ugrinuv populated place (-1057056) 50°34' N 25°03' E G Ukraine 240.3 miles W of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Ugrinov, Uhryniv, Угринів, Ugryniv populated place (-1057055) 49°15' N 25°05' E G Ukraine 255.3 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Uhryniv, Ugrynov-Gurny, Ugrinov, Dolishniy Uhryniv, Ugryniv, Gorishnyy Ugrinov populated place (-1057054) 48°57' N 24°42' E G Ukraine 279.5 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Staryi Uhryniv, Старий Угринів, Staryy Uhryniv, Ugrynuv Stary, Ugrinov Staryy, Staryy Ugrinov, Ugrinuv Stary populated place (-1055151) 48°57' N 24°22' E G Ukraine 293.1 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Serednii Uhryniv, Середній Угринів, Sredniy Ugrinov, Ugrynuv Sredni, Ugrinov Sredniy, Seredniy Uhryniv, Ugrinuv Sredni populated place (-1054858) 48°56' N 24°21' E G Ukraine 294.4 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Uhryniv, Угринів, Dubrovka, Ugrynuv, Dubravka, Uhrynów populated place (-1038316) 50°35' N 24°07' E G Ukraine 281.6 miles W of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
Number of matches = 7

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Re: orphanage at Ruthgasse 21 #austria-czech

Andreas Schwab

The following article (in German) describes the history of this institution:
David Gutmann und das israelitische Mädchenwaisenhaus in Wien-Döbling, by Ursula Prokop, DAVID - Jüdische Kulturzeitschrift, Issue 124, April 220
Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada

ViewMate translation request-Russian #translation

Denise Umans

I would appreciate a translation of the ViewMate document number: VM100452 from Russian to English.
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you so much.
Denise Segal Umans

Re: Brick wall – ISO Bernice (1920-?) or Betty Mendel (1921-?) #usa

Rod MacNeil

Hi Ethan:  Following up on the information you provided, Lillian Patten is buried at Ferncliff Cemetery and Mausoleum in Hartsdale, Westchester County, NY.  FindaGrave has a record for her burial information--on tat record, it shows a photo of Sydney's gravestone in Louisville and also a link to her daughter June's burial at Ferncliff (1961).

Good luck in your search,

Rod MacNeil
Philadelphia, PA USA

Re: Whre is Oranif? #russia

Alberto Guido Chester

Hi Jerry
I have looked up for a place named Oranif in the Jewisgen site with no matches.
Just a long shot:  Maybe she was referring to the ship boat Oranias, which was sailing Jews from present day  Ukraine to South America in the 1920 's ?
Hope this helps

Alberto Guido Chester
Buenos Aires, Argentina

Re: To Marty Myers regarding Kirzner #canada #poland

I Sechzer

There is a wonderful Kirzner family here in New Jersey, with extended family near and far.  If interested in contact, reply to me please.

Inda Sechzer
Maplewood NJ

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Re: Need help with Emilia Felsberg and Solomon Oppenheimer parents #germany

Hansmartin Unger

the name of the town is ISERLOHN
hansmatin unger

Re: LitvakSIG Vilnius District Research Group #lithuania


Hello David,

Can you please advise me of any Groups researching the Shteitls of Kretinga, Gordz, Trisket all near Memel from where my two sets of grandparents came to England and Ireland from in the 1890s. Thank you for any help you can give me, Their names were Sergie, Shuster/Suzman and Dribben.

Many Thanks

Philip D Cohen