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INRO - researching KAFER family from Porto Alegre, Brazil #germany

Maristela Rohenkohl <stella88maris@...>
 

Hello Gersig

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research forfour months.
I consider myself to be beginner in doing German Jewish genealogy research.
I live in Porto Alegre, State of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. My native language
is Portuguese and I also know English. I consider myself begginer in using
a computer. My experience in using the Internet is limited.

I have identified the names and birth and death date of four of
my grandparents two of my great grandparents and two of my
great great grandparents.

My primary goals now are to find out my KAFER ancestry.
My JGFF researcher ID number is 365931. The family names and ancestral towns
that I have entered in JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder) are:

KAFER Jacob - born in Kulz Hunsrurck Germany (1817)
married in Simmern Hunsruck Germany (1842)
emigrated to Brazil (1847) and dead in Brazil (1889).
KAFER Anton - born (1782 or 1783) and dead (1857) in Kulz Hunsruck Germany.
KAFER Peter - born (1761) and dead (1799) in Kulz, Hunsruck Germany.

Maristela Rohenkohl stella88maris@... Porto Alegre, Brazil


German SIG #Germany INRO - researching KAFER family from Porto Alegre, Brazil #germany

Maristela Rohenkohl <stella88maris@...>
 

Hello Gersig

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research forfour months.
I consider myself to be beginner in doing German Jewish genealogy research.
I live in Porto Alegre, State of Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil. My native language
is Portuguese and I also know English. I consider myself begginer in using
a computer. My experience in using the Internet is limited.

I have identified the names and birth and death date of four of
my grandparents two of my great grandparents and two of my
great great grandparents.

My primary goals now are to find out my KAFER ancestry.
My JGFF researcher ID number is 365931. The family names and ancestral towns
that I have entered in JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder) are:

KAFER Jacob - born in Kulz Hunsrurck Germany (1817)
married in Simmern Hunsruck Germany (1842)
emigrated to Brazil (1847) and dead in Brazil (1889).
KAFER Anton - born (1782 or 1783) and dead (1857) in Kulz Hunsruck Germany.
KAFER Peter - born (1761) and dead (1799) in Kulz, Hunsruck Germany.

Maristela Rohenkohl stella88maris@... Porto Alegre, Brazil


Re: DAVIDSOHN from West Prussia #germany

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Carol Davidson Baird of Solana Beach has been trying to find any male
descendants >from her father's DAVIDSOHN line >from West Prussia so that she
can get a 67 marker Y-DNA test done. Carol can only go back to her
great-great grandfather, born sometime in the l790's. She would like to
know >from where his family originated and who may have descended >from him
until today.

I found researching around my area of expertise, that there were only two
DAVIDSOHN living in Prague and they can be seen in the Prague
Conscriptions (1850 - 1914) - Applications for Residence Permit of
Prague Police Headquarters: http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky2/indexen.php?

Hermann DAVIDSOHN, a cantor, born 1843 in Ostrava Kreis, Pleschen in Posen
married to Rosalia WURM [transcribed as WUNM} born 1850 in Dobrisch.
They appeared to live there 1898-1911 and there are no children listed.

and intriguingly:

Max DAVIDSOHN - an Opernsanger born 1869 also >from Germany - I read
Schweds? Bezirk Pus??? Then the notes imply he went under the stage name,
or was originally known as DAVISON. He was in Prague in 1890.

If you cross-check DAVISON, you find an interesting - and I suspect
non-Jewish family, with links to Baden-Baden, London and Paris.

But then there is another clue: MENKES Hermann (1866); MENKES (nee
DAVISON) Seraphine (1871) and children Nora (1896) and Fritz (1898) were
from Brody, Galicia.
They may have no relevance, but I found it interesting that the only
DAVIDSOHN ever registered in Prague were >from Germany and Galicia and the
name may have been DAVISON. I would also look into Galician lines for
DNA links - as we know, Jewish families moved around.

Celia Male - London, U.K. celiamale@...


German SIG #Germany Re: DAVIDSOHN from West Prussia #germany

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Carol Davidson Baird of Solana Beach has been trying to find any male
descendants >from her father's DAVIDSOHN line >from West Prussia so that she
can get a 67 marker Y-DNA test done. Carol can only go back to her
great-great grandfather, born sometime in the l790's. She would like to
know >from where his family originated and who may have descended >from him
until today.

I found researching around my area of expertise, that there were only two
DAVIDSOHN living in Prague and they can be seen in the Prague
Conscriptions (1850 - 1914) - Applications for Residence Permit of
Prague Police Headquarters: http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky2/indexen.php?

Hermann DAVIDSOHN, a cantor, born 1843 in Ostrava Kreis, Pleschen in Posen
married to Rosalia WURM [transcribed as WUNM} born 1850 in Dobrisch.
They appeared to live there 1898-1911 and there are no children listed.

and intriguingly:

Max DAVIDSOHN - an Opernsanger born 1869 also >from Germany - I read
Schweds? Bezirk Pus??? Then the notes imply he went under the stage name,
or was originally known as DAVISON. He was in Prague in 1890.

If you cross-check DAVISON, you find an interesting - and I suspect
non-Jewish family, with links to Baden-Baden, London and Paris.

But then there is another clue: MENKES Hermann (1866); MENKES (nee
DAVISON) Seraphine (1871) and children Nora (1896) and Fritz (1898) were
from Brody, Galicia.
They may have no relevance, but I found it interesting that the only
DAVIDSOHN ever registered in Prague were >from Germany and Galicia and the
name may have been DAVISON. I would also look into Galician lines for
DNA links - as we know, Jewish families moved around.

Celia Male - London, U.K. celiamale@...


Jaffe Surname and DNA #unitedkingdom

William Yoffee
 

Recently, Jim Bennett of Haifa Israel posted a notice that he is trying to
locate descendants of Rav Mordechai JAFFE, "Ba'alei HaLibushim", codifier of
rabbinical law, author of the book "Libushim", who was born in Prague around
1530 and died in Posen in 1612. Like Jim, I have been searching for the same
descendants and others but for a slightly different reason. As Administrator
of the JAFFE SURNAME PROJECT sponsored by Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), I am
trying to assist member of the project, after they have exhausted the use of
available documentary records, to surmount their dead-end genealogical
research efforts by means of DNA Genealogy testing the male Y chromosome,
and to establish some families' connections with notable ancestors.

The genealogy of the family of rabbis and scholars surnamed Jaffe/Joffe is
documented back to Bologna Italy in the 15th Century (See Funk and Wagnall's
Jewish Encyclopedia, 1901-1906, which is available on-line). There are also
references to the surname in the 13th and 14th Century records of the
Spanish Inquisition and in records >from the Spanish Kingdom of Aragon before
the expulsion in 1492. There have been and still are numerous variations of
the surname beginning with the letters "E", "I", "J", "Y", and "Z", all
derived >from the Hebrew root word "yafeh" (yud, peh, heh) meaning "pretty".
The port city of Jaffa, Israel has a history going back almost 10,000 years
and is mentioned by name several times in the TaNaCh. There is also a city
and province in Yemen named Yafa, and some Arab families claim that their
surname is derived >from association with those places. Families with the
surname Iofe (a transliteration >from the Cyrillic alphabet) were common in
the Jewish Pale of Settlement of the Russian empire, especially in what is
now Lithuania. Families surnamed Yaffe and Jaffe exist in Israel (some who
may be indigenous, but most who have immigrated). The surname has a long
tradition in Turkey, the Island of Rhodes, Egypt and Mesopotamia. The
spelling Jaffe/Joffe appears to have originated in German speaking lands of
Central Europe where the alphabet of that language pronounces the letter J
as a Y.

The JAFFE SURNAME PROJECT currently has 13 members; hardly enough to draw
any firm conclusions about the origin(s) of the family(ies). However, seven
members, all of whom carry the surname or a variation, are determined or
predicted to be in the same haplogroup (E1b1b1) which has been found to be
common among both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews. Two members are determined
or predicted to be in haplogroup R, one in R1a1 and one in R2. Both
haplogroups have been found to have Central Asian origins, but R2 appears in
a cluster of Ashkenazi Jews and is suspected to have a connection with the
Khazars. The R2 member incidentally is a third generation descendant of a
famous 19th Century rabbi. One member is in haplogroup G which appears to
have Anatolian origins but does appear among a significant number of
Ashkenazi Jews. Two members are in haplogroup J1e which appears to have its
origin in the Southern Levant (the Arabian Peninsula, the Sinai and the
Negev) and is frequent among Arabs (Bedouins, Yemeni, Palestinians) and Jews
(particularly Cohanim). One of these does not carry the surname. One member
who does not carry the surname but is known to be a descendant of a family
that does, is in haplogroup I2b1, which is closely related to haplogroup J.

One conclusion that can be drawn >from this small sample is that NOT all
persons name Jaffe or a variation are directly descended >from a common
Jewish male ancestor. The ancestors of some may have adopted the surname,
especially in the early 19th Century. Other possibilities are that some are
the product of ancestors who converted to Judaism or that the surname was
acquired though a matrilineal connection or marriage, not an uncommon
occurrence particularly among Jewish scholars.

Some of the mysteries may never be solved. However the larger the sample the
better are the chances of accumulating useful evidence and drawing
reasonable conclusions. For this reason, I urge any male who has inherited
the surname or a variation to join the project to have his Y DNA tested and
provide as much family history as possible. Please be assured that the
laboratory data is confidential and is not useful for any other purpose.

Please contact me at kidsbks@... for further information.
Membership in the project entitles members to a substantial discount off the
regular price of the tests.

Sincerely,
Bill Yoffee
Administrator, Jaffe Surname Project
JewishGen research No. 2074


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Jaffe Surname and DNA #unitedkingdom

William Yoffee
 

Recently, Jim Bennett of Haifa Israel posted a notice that he is trying to
locate descendants of Rav Mordechai JAFFE, "Ba'alei HaLibushim", codifier of
rabbinical law, author of the book "Libushim", who was born in Prague around
1530 and died in Posen in 1612. Like Jim, I have been searching for the same
descendants and others but for a slightly different reason. As Administrator
of the JAFFE SURNAME PROJECT sponsored by Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), I am
trying to assist member of the project, after they have exhausted the use of
available documentary records, to surmount their dead-end genealogical
research efforts by means of DNA Genealogy testing the male Y chromosome,
and to establish some families' connections with notable ancestors.

The genealogy of the family of rabbis and scholars surnamed Jaffe/Joffe is
documented back to Bologna Italy in the 15th Century (See Funk and Wagnall's
Jewish Encyclopedia, 1901-1906, which is available on-line). There are also
references to the surname in the 13th and 14th Century records of the
Spanish Inquisition and in records >from the Spanish Kingdom of Aragon before
the expulsion in 1492. There have been and still are numerous variations of
the surname beginning with the letters "E", "I", "J", "Y", and "Z", all
derived >from the Hebrew root word "yafeh" (yud, peh, heh) meaning "pretty".
The port city of Jaffa, Israel has a history going back almost 10,000 years
and is mentioned by name several times in the TaNaCh. There is also a city
and province in Yemen named Yafa, and some Arab families claim that their
surname is derived >from association with those places. Families with the
surname Iofe (a transliteration >from the Cyrillic alphabet) were common in
the Jewish Pale of Settlement of the Russian empire, especially in what is
now Lithuania. Families surnamed Yaffe and Jaffe exist in Israel (some who
may be indigenous, but most who have immigrated). The surname has a long
tradition in Turkey, the Island of Rhodes, Egypt and Mesopotamia. The
spelling Jaffe/Joffe appears to have originated in German speaking lands of
Central Europe where the alphabet of that language pronounces the letter J
as a Y.

The JAFFE SURNAME PROJECT currently has 13 members; hardly enough to draw
any firm conclusions about the origin(s) of the family(ies). However, seven
members, all of whom carry the surname or a variation, are determined or
predicted to be in the same haplogroup (E1b1b1) which has been found to be
common among both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews. Two members are determined
or predicted to be in haplogroup R, one in R1a1 and one in R2. Both
haplogroups have been found to have Central Asian origins, but R2 appears in
a cluster of Ashkenazi Jews and is suspected to have a connection with the
Khazars. The R2 member incidentally is a third generation descendant of a
famous 19th Century rabbi. One member is in haplogroup G which appears to
have Anatolian origins but does appear among a significant number of
Ashkenazi Jews. Two members are in haplogroup J1e which appears to have its
origin in the Southern Levant (the Arabian Peninsula, the Sinai and the
Negev) and is frequent among Arabs (Bedouins, Yemeni, Palestinians) and Jews
(particularly Cohanim). One of these does not carry the surname. One member
who does not carry the surname but is known to be a descendant of a family
that does, is in haplogroup I2b1, which is closely related to haplogroup J.

One conclusion that can be drawn >from this small sample is that NOT all
persons name Jaffe or a variation are directly descended >from a common
Jewish male ancestor. The ancestors of some may have adopted the surname,
especially in the early 19th Century. Other possibilities are that some are
the product of ancestors who converted to Judaism or that the surname was
acquired though a matrilineal connection or marriage, not an uncommon
occurrence particularly among Jewish scholars.

Some of the mysteries may never be solved. However the larger the sample the
better are the chances of accumulating useful evidence and drawing
reasonable conclusions. For this reason, I urge any male who has inherited
the surname or a variation to join the project to have his Y DNA tested and
provide as much family history as possible. Please be assured that the
laboratory data is confidential and is not useful for any other purpose.

Please contact me at kidsbks@... for further information.
Membership in the project entitles members to a substantial discount off the
regular price of the tests.

Sincerely,
Bill Yoffee
Administrator, Jaffe Surname Project
JewishGen research No. 2074


Re: Geni #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

This is apropos a personal travail that is unraveling at the moment. For
some years I was a volunteer in the now
sadly gone Biblitheque Genealogique in Paris. One job was creating a large
database of French families,
mostly aristos. Some was based on my own research done for a book I am
writing about the ancestry of a friend.

The library shut due to financial problems and the collection dispersed. Lo
and behold some of my work is now appearing on
Geneanet under the name of another person. He downloaded a copy of the data
and is now busily putting it on line. After screaming at him he has decided
to take my work down. But somebody else has copied >from him.

If you put something on the internet, you can disclaim it all you want,
but it is there. As the moderator is a lawyer I am sure,
he will confirm that entering stuff into the net is at your risk. You don't
want to see it, have it be seen, have it criticized, trashed, stolen=, misused
or abused, then don't put it there.

Under the laws of some countries it is illegal anyway to post the names of
people who are living without their permission. And others have 90 year rules
to protect the living. (And cover up government skulduggery).

So I will not put my family anywhere near the net. If my cousins wish to post
themselves it is their business, but not me.

Peter Bakos
Budapest
PODWINEC >from Jung Bunzlau


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE:Geni #austria-czech

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

This is apropos a personal travail that is unraveling at the moment. For
some years I was a volunteer in the now
sadly gone Biblitheque Genealogique in Paris. One job was creating a large
database of French families,
mostly aristos. Some was based on my own research done for a book I am
writing about the ancestry of a friend.

The library shut due to financial problems and the collection dispersed. Lo
and behold some of my work is now appearing on
Geneanet under the name of another person. He downloaded a copy of the data
and is now busily putting it on line. After screaming at him he has decided
to take my work down. But somebody else has copied >from him.

If you put something on the internet, you can disclaim it all you want,
but it is there. As the moderator is a lawyer I am sure,
he will confirm that entering stuff into the net is at your risk. You don't
want to see it, have it be seen, have it criticized, trashed, stolen=, misused
or abused, then don't put it there.

Under the laws of some countries it is illegal anyway to post the names of
people who are living without their permission. And others have 90 year rules
to protect the living. (And cover up government skulduggery).

So I will not put my family anywhere near the net. If my cousins wish to post
themselves it is their business, but not me.

Peter Bakos
Budapest
PODWINEC >from Jung Bunzlau


RABINOVITCH - DVINSK & DAVIDOVITCH - RIGA #latvia

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

My paternal ggf was Aaron RABINOVITCH(1876-1952),
Raphel Arieh son of Todros/Tadeuz Henoch.
Aaron's known brother was Menachem Mendel.
In the UK 1911 census it states that Aaron was >from Dvinsk.
He married Rosa DAVIDOVITCH(1878-1948), Roisa
daughter of Yechezkal/Ezekial/Chaskel Ha Levi in
the East London Synagogue, 1898. Both their
addresses were given as 35 Langsdale St, near
Commercial Road. It is stated that Rosa was a
native of Riga. They had 8 x children;
Jack/Jacob,Theodore/Ted/Todros Henoch,Phil/Pinchus,Louis/Eleazer,
Miriam/Mimi,Lily,Ray/Rochy and Evelyn/Eve.
The surname of RABIN was also used and they
lastly lived in Marlowe Ct, Willesden,London.
Aaron was a tailor as well as a Cantor/Reader and officiated as 'Rev' at
his children's marriages including at the Great Synagogue.

Please contact me on a1steve@... if these names are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching; BENDEL,BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANES,FELDMAN,GOLD,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
GROSSMAN,HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,KATZ,LEBIS,MELNICK,
NATHAN,OGIN,ORGIN,POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,
RANDALL,RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,STEIN,STONE,TISMAN,
TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON,ZELDENRUST


Latvia SIG #Latvia RABINOVITCH - DVINSK & DAVIDOVITCH - RIGA #latvia

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

My paternal ggf was Aaron RABINOVITCH(1876-1952),
Raphel Arieh son of Todros/Tadeuz Henoch.
Aaron's known brother was Menachem Mendel.
In the UK 1911 census it states that Aaron was >from Dvinsk.
He married Rosa DAVIDOVITCH(1878-1948), Roisa
daughter of Yechezkal/Ezekial/Chaskel Ha Levi in
the East London Synagogue, 1898. Both their
addresses were given as 35 Langsdale St, near
Commercial Road. It is stated that Rosa was a
native of Riga. They had 8 x children;
Jack/Jacob,Theodore/Ted/Todros Henoch,Phil/Pinchus,Louis/Eleazer,
Miriam/Mimi,Lily,Ray/Rochy and Evelyn/Eve.
The surname of RABIN was also used and they
lastly lived in Marlowe Ct, Willesden,London.
Aaron was a tailor as well as a Cantor/Reader and officiated as 'Rev' at
his children's marriages including at the Great Synagogue.

Please contact me on a1steve@... if these names are familiar.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching; BENDEL,BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANES,FELDMAN,GOLD,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
GROSSMAN,HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,KATZ,LEBIS,MELNICK,
NATHAN,OGIN,ORGIN,POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,
RANDALL,RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,STEIN,STONE,TISMAN,
TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON,ZELDENRUST


More about the Riga Ghetto during WWII #latvia

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,

I've uploaded many more pages >from the Max Kaufmann's book "Churbn Lettland:
The Destruction of the Jews of Latvia." These pages deal with life (and
death) in both the Large and Small Ghettos of Riga. Again, this is an
excellent accounting of what transpired within both the large and small Riga
Ghettos during the war, as written by one of its inhabitants who wrote his
account of life there so soon after war's end, in 1947. I hope to add more
parts of this English translation along the way.

These excerpts are part of my overall "Jews of Latvia" exhibition. I am
hoping to receive more family photos of those who once lived in Latvia
before and during the war, who perished there, so that I may have the honor
to pay tribute to them within my "Wall of Remembrance." You can see a very
good photo of the Kaplan family >from Libau (Liepaja) at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/latvia-brandt.htm

You can access the "Churbn Lettland..." front page at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/mfh-churbn-lettland.htm . Click on the word
"here" where it's written "Enter the exhibition here." Then read the entries
within the Table of Contents and click on the link of your choice.


Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia More about the Riga Ghetto during WWII #latvia

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,

I've uploaded many more pages >from the Max Kaufmann's book "Churbn Lettland:
The Destruction of the Jews of Latvia." These pages deal with life (and
death) in both the Large and Small Ghettos of Riga. Again, this is an
excellent accounting of what transpired within both the large and small Riga
Ghettos during the war, as written by one of its inhabitants who wrote his
account of life there so soon after war's end, in 1947. I hope to add more
parts of this English translation along the way.

These excerpts are part of my overall "Jews of Latvia" exhibition. I am
hoping to receive more family photos of those who once lived in Latvia
before and during the war, who perished there, so that I may have the honor
to pay tribute to them within my "Wall of Remembrance." You can see a very
good photo of the Kaplan family >from Libau (Liepaja) at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/latvia-brandt.htm

You can access the "Churbn Lettland..." front page at
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/mfh-churbn-lettland.htm . Click on the word
"here" where it's written "Enter the exhibition here." Then read the entries
within the Table of Contents and click on the link of your choice.


Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@...


Re: litvaksig digest: March 03, 2009 #lithuania

Shuman, Carl H
 

Subject: Anyksciai, Lithuania Street Map & Directory

With regard to the Anyksciai map issue, I cannot be of help with the
translation but I may be of help in securing a better copy of the map.
When my family and I visited Anyksciai two summers ago, we visited the
Anyyksiai Visitor's Center. There, a very lovely woman, the director of
the Center, led us into her rather dark and dank offices in a side building
and showed me a copy of a large map >from 1925 that apparently identified
where all of the town's residents lived. I believe it was used for tax
purposes. On that map we were able to locate a Binder family. My
great-grandmother was Rachel Binder, wife of Rabbi Moshe Yom Tov Pal.
Rachel and Moshe Yom Tov had already died by 1925 but I am assuming that
the Binders who lived in Anyksciai in 1925 were somehow related. We also
visited the Jewish cemetery on the outskirts of town. It is built into a
hill and some of the grave stones are still legible. There is also a
"Synagogue Street" in the middle of town with one remaining synagogue,
which is now, I believe, the police station or office of the town
prosecutor. Perhaps you may want to contact the Anyksciai Historical
Society, which is down the road >from the tourist center and, if memory
serves, is located in the former home of a famous Anyksciai poet,
Baranauskas, and ask for a better copy of the map. My guess is that for a
small donation, the director would be happyt to oblige if (1) she has a
copying machine and (2) finds someone who can translate your letter into
Lithuanian (she does not speak English).

Carl Shuman
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: litvaksig digest: March 03, 2009 #lithuania

Shuman, Carl H
 

Subject: Anyksciai, Lithuania Street Map & Directory

With regard to the Anyksciai map issue, I cannot be of help with the
translation but I may be of help in securing a better copy of the map.
When my family and I visited Anyksciai two summers ago, we visited the
Anyyksiai Visitor's Center. There, a very lovely woman, the director of
the Center, led us into her rather dark and dank offices in a side building
and showed me a copy of a large map >from 1925 that apparently identified
where all of the town's residents lived. I believe it was used for tax
purposes. On that map we were able to locate a Binder family. My
great-grandmother was Rachel Binder, wife of Rabbi Moshe Yom Tov Pal.
Rachel and Moshe Yom Tov had already died by 1925 but I am assuming that
the Binders who lived in Anyksciai in 1925 were somehow related. We also
visited the Jewish cemetery on the outskirts of town. It is built into a
hill and some of the grave stones are still legible. There is also a
"Synagogue Street" in the middle of town with one remaining synagogue,
which is now, I believe, the police station or office of the town
prosecutor. Perhaps you may want to contact the Anyksciai Historical
Society, which is down the road >from the tourist center and, if memory
serves, is located in the former home of a famous Anyksciai poet,
Baranauskas, and ask for a better copy of the map. My guess is that for a
small donation, the director would be happyt to oblige if (1) she has a
copying machine and (2) finds someone who can translate your letter into
Lithuanian (she does not speak English).

Carl Shuman
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania


Betygala Museum in Rasinai district #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

< From: Oscar Friedman <oscar.friedman@...>
Hello part of my family came >from Betygala
I just saw they have a museum there
Is there anyone that know how to connect with that Museum
I would be more then happy to find any kind of information >from that
shtetel
Searching Ziv >from Betygala and Ariogala, Friedman >from Krakes
Korb >from Salakas >

Why not entertain the idea of going to the museum on a personal visit.
You could also visit Ariogala, Krakes, and Salakas. If interested, please
contact me privately about a group trip I am organizing.

Howard Margol
homargol@...
www.pusalotas.org


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Betygala Museum in Rasinai district #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

< From: Oscar Friedman <oscar.friedman@...>
Hello part of my family came >from Betygala
I just saw they have a museum there
Is there anyone that know how to connect with that Museum
I would be more then happy to find any kind of information >from that
shtetel
Searching Ziv >from Betygala and Ariogala, Friedman >from Krakes
Korb >from Salakas >

Why not entertain the idea of going to the museum on a personal visit.
You could also visit Ariogala, Krakes, and Salakas. If interested, please
contact me privately about a group trip I am organizing.

Howard Margol
homargol@...
www.pusalotas.org


Children's names missing from ship's manifest #poland

Judith Elam
 

I have obtained the Petition for Naturalization for Fannie EAGLE, born
MARDENFELD, on which it is stated she arrived >from Rotterdam on the ship
"Maasdam" in August 1901. The Maasdam sailed to New York. Fannie was
born in Toporow and was 10 years old. She lived and died in New York.

According to her 95 year old niece, Frances Goldberg, who has still got
a great memory, Fannie arrived with her 2 sisters, Gussie and Rebecca.
Gussie was 9 years old. They went to live with an uncle (MARDENFELD)
in New York. I do not know if they were accompanied by an adult or not.
Their parents' names were Freida DANNENBAUM and Samuel MARDENFELD.

The only MARDENFELD I can find on any ship's manifest is Dore MARDENFELD
from Odessa, Russia, who arrived in 1913 on the Kroonland.
Does anyone know why none of these 3 sisters appear on the Maasdam
manifest? I see plenty of children listed on the database in general.

According to Frances Goldberg, the 3 sisters had a (deceased) brother
called Abraham WIENER (my great-grandfather), who presumably was also
born in Toporow, since his 2 children were both born there. I am trying
to find out how exactly they were related, since the 2 surnames (MARDENFELD
& WIENER) are different. I assume they were half siblings and that Abraham
was a lot older because his first child was around the same age as the 3
sisters.

If you can shed some light on any of this, please contact me directly at

elamj@...

Thank you!

Judith Elam
Hawaii, USA


JRI Poland #Poland Children's names missing from ship's manifest #poland

Judith Elam
 

I have obtained the Petition for Naturalization for Fannie EAGLE, born
MARDENFELD, on which it is stated she arrived >from Rotterdam on the ship
"Maasdam" in August 1901. The Maasdam sailed to New York. Fannie was
born in Toporow and was 10 years old. She lived and died in New York.

According to her 95 year old niece, Frances Goldberg, who has still got
a great memory, Fannie arrived with her 2 sisters, Gussie and Rebecca.
Gussie was 9 years old. They went to live with an uncle (MARDENFELD)
in New York. I do not know if they were accompanied by an adult or not.
Their parents' names were Freida DANNENBAUM and Samuel MARDENFELD.

The only MARDENFELD I can find on any ship's manifest is Dore MARDENFELD
from Odessa, Russia, who arrived in 1913 on the Kroonland.
Does anyone know why none of these 3 sisters appear on the Maasdam
manifest? I see plenty of children listed on the database in general.

According to Frances Goldberg, the 3 sisters had a (deceased) brother
called Abraham WIENER (my great-grandfather), who presumably was also
born in Toporow, since his 2 children were both born there. I am trying
to find out how exactly they were related, since the 2 surnames (MARDENFELD
& WIENER) are different. I assume they were half siblings and that Abraham
was a lot older because his first child was around the same age as the 3
sisters.

If you can shed some light on any of this, please contact me directly at

elamj@...

Thank you!

Judith Elam
Hawaii, USA


Re: Wielun - Jewish Expulsion Early 1700's #poland

Martin Davis (com)
 

My family research has shown that the founders (as far as I can go back)
lived in Dzialoszyn, Lodz Province, in the early 1700's. The Jewish
community of Dzialoszyn substantially increased at this period and it
has been suggested to me that this was most likely the result of the
prohibition of Jews >from living in Wielun (20 miles away) and that it
was very likely that virtually all the Jewish families of Dzialoszyn
originated as refugees >from Wielun.

Does anyone know if any records exist of the pre expulsion (pre circa
1720) Jewish population of Wielun or of their migration?

Martin Davis (UK)


JRI Poland #Poland RE: Wielun - Jewish Expulsion Early 1700's #poland

Martin Davis (com)
 

My family research has shown that the founders (as far as I can go back)
lived in Dzialoszyn, Lodz Province, in the early 1700's. The Jewish
community of Dzialoszyn substantially increased at this period and it
has been suggested to me that this was most likely the result of the
prohibition of Jews >from living in Wielun (20 miles away) and that it
was very likely that virtually all the Jewish families of Dzialoszyn
originated as refugees >from Wielun.

Does anyone know if any records exist of the pre expulsion (pre circa
1720) Jewish population of Wielun or of their migration?

Martin Davis (UK)