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Re: Bessarabia Records
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mpipik
Steven,
It is unclear what information you already have. Do you have names of those family members who came to the US? The Ellis Island Museum https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/passenger has millions of passenger records (manifests) on-line from 1820-1957. The manifests usually list the place where the passenger lived and their contact in the US. What about naturalization records? Did you check those? There are genealogy websites that give you access to many of these records for a fairly small charge. The JewishGen databases provide transcriptions of the basic data on the local records and sometimes locations of the holdings. Happy New Year Jessica Schein NYC |
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Nemirov or Nemiroff in לידע Lida, Belarus
#belarus
tatyanabrannon@...
Hello,
I understand that this might be a long shot. My maternal grandfather Anatoliy (Anatolii or Naftole) Ivanovich Nemirov was born in Lida, Belarus, Vilna Gubernia before WWII. Right now, Lida is a part of Belarus but was a part of Poland at some point between the two World Word Wars. He (Anatoliy) became an orphan at a young age around 6-7 years old. The story goes, his dad Ivan (?), died either during pogroms or from natural causes, not specified. His mom, Alexandra (שְׁלוֹמְצִיּוֹן - Hebrew), was a widow and had only one child, Anatoliy (my grandfather). During WWII, when Germans occupied Lida, they rounded up Jewish families and marched them to the outskirts of the town into a ghetto. His mom sneaked him out of the either train or the foot column to save him from the german soldiers. He was hiding in the forests on the outskirts of the city, starving, until he was picked up by the authorities and taken to a local orphanage. He was told at the orphanage to renounce his Ashkenazi Jewish identity and they gave him a more Soviet-sounding name Nemiroff (Nemirov) Anatoliy Ivanovich (that's why I think his dad's name is Ivan). Grandfather didn't like to talk about his childhood. For some reason, he held a grudge against Alexandra for abandoning him, even though he understood that all she wanted to do was to save his life. He then moved to Krutiha, Russia (Siberia), and met my grandmother, they had my mom Galina Nemoriva (Astapeyeva), who passed away in 2019 in Greenville, South Carolina and they also had a son Alexander Nemorov, who now resides in St. Petersburg, Russia. I would really like to find out my grandfather's history and to learn if he had any siblings or other relatives in Lida or other parts of Belarus. I would also want to find out what happened to his mom, Alexandra, and his dad Ivan. My mom didn't know much about Grandpa's history neither does my uncle Alexander. Tatyana Brannon United States tatyanabrannon@... |
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Re: Bessarabia Records
#bessarabia
Yefim Kogan
Steven, there is no such a thing as "Bessarabia files", but there is a database in JewishGen - 'Romania/Moldova" which includes many thousand records Vital, Revisions, Burial, etc. from Bessarabia.
I suggest you to search that database with surname, maybe town, if you know. I also suggest to add to JGFF database surnames/towns you are researching. Maybe other people will find connections and help you. All the best, Yefim Kogan JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator |
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Re: Sevastopol Records 1890's
#records
Yefim Kogan
Hello Alan, hello everybody, Happy New Year!
I want to mention that many Jews from Sevastopol and Nikolaev moved to Bessarabia. I even had as example at my session about Laws from Jews about families moving from Sevastopol to Bessarabia... the law allowed Jews to get some privileges. The other point is that if you go to Bessarabia database (Romania-Moldova) and search for "Any field" - Sevastopol, you get some Bessarabia Revision list records with families from Sevastopol.  All the best, Yefim Kogan JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator |
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JGSColorado Presents Deborah Long Out of the Whirlwind: Resources for Holocaust Research
#events
#jgs-iajgs
Please join JGSCO this month in marking the anniversary of the liberation of the Nazi concentration camps and the end of the Holocaust
Out of the Whirlwind: Resources for Holocaust Research
Speaker : Deborah Long
Sunday January 15, 2023 Program 10 AM to 12 PM Mountain Time 9:30 AM to 10 AM Schmear, Schmooze, and Share On ZOOM
The daughter of two Holocaust survivors, Deborah Long reviews the best (as well as some of the obscure) resources and methods for determining the fate of those involved in the Holocaust, including survivors and victims. Deborah will use examples from her own research to demonstrate the documents and artifacts she discovered.
Bio: Deborah Munk Long has been researching her family’s Holocaust history and looking for surviving family members since she was 10 years old. Her research has led to the discovery of surviving cousins in Sweden, Hungary, Canada, and Israel. Deborah is a professional educator and has written more than 20 books. She is the founder of the Triangle Jewish Genealogical Society in Durham/Chapel Hill, North Carolina. On ZOOM
Members no charge Non Members $5 A ZOOM link will be sent to you upon registration Ellen Beller President JGSCO |
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Michele Lock
For those who are interested, here is the first page of the ship manifest on FamilySearch:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9RB-83Z8-6?i=373&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJXKY-MJS On the second page, starting in column 19, the abbreviation is 'Pgt 9 mo' - means Pregnant 9 months. There is something confusing on the first page, about the last place of residence, in column 10. What at first looks like 'Geneva', appears to be in different handwriting that the rest of this entry. The first letter does not match other upper case G letters in previous pages of the manifest. The first letter also doesn't match an upper case N, seen in the last column 'NY' for New York. I'm not sure what the town/city in column 10 is, or if this is some type of abbreviation.  On page 2 of the manifest, there are also two different handwritings. One appears to be in pencil, from an Inspector Mann (see first page). He looks to have been the one who filled out the last column for place of birth, for the town of Tolchen or Toldchen, or maybe Foldchen. It is as if these entries were not filled out until the family was on Ellis Island. I suspect there was some confusion as to how to enter this family in the manifest. Perhaps the naturalization papers for the father Charles Simon would clear up what the town of birth is. -- Michele Lock Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus |
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Shimy Karni
Hi, Someone wrote that in 1907 there were pogroms at Iasi. I want to add that there were pogroms in many places in Romania. It was called "1907 Peasants' Revolt in Moldova" (you may google for it).
Personally , my family left Pungesti village and moved to Iasi after this pogrom. So, it might be, as someone wrote, that she went to visit her family after the pogrom. As for your question why she did not take the older son, for my experience with my children, when the father is going to work, and the child can go to school it is OK. But if the child is not busy with school there is a problem who will take care of him. So, maybe there was a simple baby care problem. Best Regards, Shimi Karni, Israel בתאריך יום ב׳, 2 בינו׳ 2023 ב-12:54 מאת Alan Cohen <aandbcohen@...>:
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ViewMate translation request - Russian (or Polish ?)
#translation
wajs@...
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM100833 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. |
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Re: NYC voter registration records
#usa
Carol
I think that Steve Morse has tools for the ADs and EDs from the days before censuses were indexed. Good luck!
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Re: What I learned from Susan King ע"ה
#general
I don't think anyone could ask for a nicer memorial than your words about her helpfulnfess. Reminds me also that quote about making a difference for one starfish at a time!!!!!!!! Thank you for this.
-- Sandra Parker Normal IL |
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Re: Seeking information on Suwalker original family name that lived in Winnipeg prior to 1891 when it appears they immigrated to Detroit area.
#canada
Nancy Seibert
The Jewish Heritage Centre of Western Canada is a main resource for information on the Winnipeg community. Their archives are online.
Also, a quick web search for Jews of Winnipeg turns up links to the early history of the Jewish community there. There are early photos of members of the community. It's best to work backwards in time in order to trace your family. You don't mention your earliest known family surname (?), but Anglicization of surnames could happen very quickly after immigration. Or, an immigrant might have taken a surname totally unrelated to the original. An immigrant's first home in a new country was often near a relative, or even in the home of a relative. Did you find a ship manifest or US/Canada border crossing? Who was your ancestor going to? Were they traveling with other people? Similarly, a reason to move to Detroit likely would have been a family connection to a job there. Look at census records closest in time to a move to a new location. Sometimes building a relative's tree (or even a neighbor's) can turn up lost surnames in the family. Nancy Seibert Rhode Island, USA
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Re: Is this a place in Russ./Poland
#poland
joelbnovis@...
Based on purely on an assumption of how your g-grandfather pronounced the name and how an English-speaking clerk might have heard it, a first, rough guess would be present-day Poznań, German Posen, Yiddish פויזן, pronounced /poizen/. The problem with this assumption is that Poznań/Posen, although ethnically majority Polish, was within the Prussian, not Russian, Empire. That political fact doesn't preclude a mistake on the part of either the applicant or the clerk, it just complicates an easy match.
Comparison of a stated point of origin on any immigration or naturalization documents that come to light (e.g. passenger manifest, Declaration of Intent, Naturalization Certificate) will help. Joel Novis (Researching NOVITSKIY [Kyiv, Vasyl'kiv], OLSZTAJN [Łódź area], GEYMAN/HYMAN [Ashmyany], POMERANTZ [Kapyl', Navahrudak]) |
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Aliceb@...
Does anyone know where Taschen or Toschen or Folschen is or was in Romania?
Thanks. -- Alice Simon Berger |
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Hi Carol,
Your situation is a little different because your grandmother traveled after July 1, 1924. As a legal (alien) resident of the US she could not have a US passport, and she did not require a US immigrant visa. Rather, she would be eligible for a Reentry Permit. She would apply before she left and carry the permit with her when she traveled. When preparing to depart the steamship company would record information from that permit onto the return passenger list. You can check her NY return arrival passenger list again to see if it tells you anything. Sometimes (tho' not always), the SS Co. would actually group passengers by their documents, so everyone with a Reentry Permit appears on the same page(s). Such pages are usually identified at the upper left, like this example I just found on a 1932 NYC arrival: Even if they are not separated into lists based on the document they carried, and everyone is all mixed together, the nature of their document will be listed in the columns. The first clue is where/when the document was issued--if they are listed as an alien (not a US citizen) and their document was issued in Washington, DC, it was likely a Reentry Permit. The issue date is usually within months or weeks of their departure from the US. In most cases (but not below) the prefix for the document number (column 12, below) will be "RP" or "permit." Reentry Permit entries very often contain two numbers (as in our example), the application number and the permit number. Finally, the last permanent residence should always be somewhere in the US. In her application, she would have stated her reason for travel. Sadly the Reentry Permit files were destroyed by INS and so are unretrievable. Still, the columns on the manifest may give you just a little more info. Good luck, Marian Smith |
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Re: Is this a place in Russ./Poland
#poland
I found this:
https://mapcarta.com/14781146 -- David Price researching PRAJS of Kielce/Bieliny; GORLICKI of Chmielnik; KUSZNER/BADASZ of Grodno, Belarus |
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Aliceb@...
The document that I have identified is called the “State Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival,” for this very trip as she returned to NYC. On it, her previous address is not listed as Geneva but 130 2nd Avenue in NYC which I believe is correct. It also has some notation next to that I don’t know what it means—“PAT, 9 months and then what looks like initials of a person. Does anyone know what this means?
There is also another document entitled “Record of Aliens Hold for Special Inquiry” which indicates that she was not a US citizen: it lists Bessie and my Uncle William. Where are you seeing this document that says Geneva? From all I know of the family, they never lived in upstate NY. Thanks. -- Alice Simon Berger |
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JGS of Santa Cruz invites you to Historic Yiddish Newspaper: Using the “Forverts” (Jewish Daily Forward-) For Family History with Michael Morganstern on January 8
#announcements
#jgs-iajgs
Leah Kushner
Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy SocietyEvents: Historic Yiddish Newspaper: Using the “Forverts” (Jewish Daily Forward-) For Family History Sunday, January 8 , 2023 , 1 pm Pacific Time Speakers: Michael Morgenstern Guest RSVP: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=RHZR68AUJBCJS Sunday, January 8, 1 pm Pacific Time Zone Speaker: Michael Morgenstern Description: Founded in 1897, the “Forverts” (Jewish Daily Forward) was a leading Yiddish language newspaper in the United States throughout the 20th century. Most of this newspaper is available to browse digitally for free through the online. Historical Jewish Press database. This lecture will examine hidden genealogical gems within this newspaper, some of which can be found with minimal or no Yiddish skills. Among these gems are personal inquiries submitted by readers seeking information on their relatives, letters to the editor, and the “Gallery of Missing Husbands.” This lecture will also cover the historical and cultural context of the newspaper, which will help evaluate its relevance to a researcherʼs individual family history. Bio: Michael Morgenstern is a native of Los Angeles, California. After completing an undergraduate degree in history at Loyola Marymount University, he worked as a researcher on TLCʼs “Who Do You Think You Are?” history and genealogy show. Since 2014, he has worked as an educator at Holocaust Museum Los Angeles. He has been an avid genealogy researcher since he was 16 in 2006. He has volunteered genealogy research to Holocaust survivors, focusing on those who do not have any prewar family documents or photographs. Lately, he has translated segments of the “Jewish Daily Forward” from Yiddish to English for JewishGen. Some of his work can be seen at “The Forward: A Gallery of Missing Husbands (1908-1914).” Zoom link will be sent to your email the week of the event, please check your Spam folder. For more information or membership information co-sponsor- Chadeish Yameinu Hexe Harvey, Publicity SCJGS Hexe@... Visit our website: https://scjgs.org Subscribers: If you already registered for this event via PayPal, you are on our RSVP list and will receive the Zoom link the week of the event. |
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Alan Cohen
I note that so far this thread refers to trips from the US.
I wonder how many made similar journeys back 'home' from the UK to visit family. I have a photograph of my Paternal Grandmother with her two sons, aged about 4 and 2 (the latter my Father) taken in Vitebsk with her brother in about 1910.
She originally came to UK in 1905 to marry my Grandfather. My father told me that when he and his brother got back to UK in 1911 they had forgotten their English and had to relearn it.
Unfortunately I have been unable to find any record of their leaving from or return to England so cannot work out the exact dates. I also believe she travelled without her husband, leaving him behind in London, quite a journey only accompanied by two very young children. I would love to know more about her journey - anyone any ideas on further research?
Alan Cohen
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NYC voter registration records
#usa
Renee Steinig
I would like to request a 1944 New York City voter registration record for Irving Schwartz, who lived in the Bronx at that time. According to the 1940 census he was naturalized by then, so eligible to vote, and I am certain of his 1944 address.
I hope to learn Irving's date and court of naturalization, information that is often on voter registration records. Knowing the court may help me plow through the many Irving Schwartz naturalizations that I see online and if necessary, order a record that is not online. Of course, I have to hope that he was indeed naturalized and that he voted.
My questions:
- It's my understanding that I need to submit a Freedom of Information Act request to the New York City Board of Elections for these records. If you've done this recently, how long did it take to get the record?
- I'll need to include with the request the Assembly District and Election District in which each of Irving's address was located. I vaguely remember working in the past with maps at the New York Public Library that showed these districts. Does anyone have any idea whether such maps are online or, alternatively, whether library staff will respond to a request for a lookup?
- In the year in question, NYC voters registered annually. An article in the NY Times ("Registration Sets a First Day Record", Oct. 6, 1952) reports that first-day registration for that year's election was Oct. 6 -- i.e. a month before Election Day. Does anyone know whether the timing would have been similar in the 1940s?
Thanks for your help.
Renee
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