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Witnesses on Polish Jewish records #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

It is hard to know who the witnesses are without seeing the entire
document translated.
Many of these documents begin something like "On 2 February 1880
Avram Itskov Shvarts appeared before me and declared that he is the
father of a son born..."
In that case, the father would not be a witness, because there is no
point in getting him to witness his own statement.
What the witnesses are witnessing is the fact that Avram told all
this to the recorder, so these are likely to be professional
witnesses who hang out with the recorder. They probably did not
witness the birth.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA
lazer@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Witnesses on Polish Jewish records #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

It is hard to know who the witnesses are without seeing the entire
document translated.
Many of these documents begin something like "On 2 February 1880
Avram Itskov Shvarts appeared before me and declared that he is the
father of a son born..."
In that case, the father would not be a witness, because there is no
point in getting him to witness his own statement.
What the witnesses are witnessing is the fact that Avram told all
this to the recorder, so these are likely to be professional
witnesses who hang out with the recorder. They probably did not
witness the birth.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA
lazer@...


Richard and Anna WEISS of St. Louis, Missouri #general

Jonathan Newman
 

I am currently trying to trace descendants of Richard and Anna WEISS of St.Louis,
Missouri, both of whom were born about 1886 and died in the early 1960s. Their
children were: Margaret (born about 1914), Richard M. (1919 - 1983), and Jacob L.
(born about 1923).

I would be very grateful for any information on this family.

Many thanks for your help - and please respond privately.

Jonathan Newman

Leeds, England
Primpark@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Richard and Anna WEISS of St. Louis, Missouri #general

Jonathan Newman
 

I am currently trying to trace descendants of Richard and Anna WEISS of St.Louis,
Missouri, both of whom were born about 1886 and died in the early 1960s. Their
children were: Margaret (born about 1914), Richard M. (1919 - 1983), and Jacob L.
(born about 1923).

I would be very grateful for any information on this family.

Many thanks for your help - and please respond privately.

Jonathan Newman

Leeds, England
Primpark@...


Louis STERN #general

Jerry Segal <jsegal1269@...>
 

Looking for descendants of Louis STERN who lived in Santa Monica, California
in the 1950's. Anyone? Jsegal1269@...

Jerry Segal


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Louis STERN #general

Jerry Segal <jsegal1269@...>
 

Looking for descendants of Louis STERN who lived in Santa Monica, California
in the 1950's. Anyone? Jsegal1269@...

Jerry Segal


Researcher ID 47471 - Family Tree of the Jewish People: Adam Herman #general

Kathryn Wallach <kwallach@...>
 

Email for Researcher #47471, Al Tager - altager@... has
bounced. If anyone knows his current email, please contact me at
kwallach@... We share some Jacobson family history.

Kathryn Wallach


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researcher ID 47471 - Family Tree of the Jewish People: Adam Herman #general

Kathryn Wallach <kwallach@...>
 

Email for Researcher #47471, Al Tager - altager@... has
bounced. If anyone knows his current email, please contact me at
kwallach@... We share some Jacobson family history.

Kathryn Wallach


Re: Uncooperative Macher #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

Some people feel that because they spent so much time, effort, and
money creating their tree, gathering documents, visiting cemeteries
and archives, interviewing people, following every lead, that they
don't want to give their information to just anyone who asks for it.
This is understandable.

Some people are worried about privacy considerations if they don't
know you. I have those questions, too, about some people that contact
me. That is why I am leery to post to genealogical social networking
sites without strict privacy rules because I don't want someone's in-
laws (or out-laws) looking at live people's information.

Anyway, as a prior poster wrote, don't dwell on it and move on.
Perhaps you can recreate what you don't have on your own.

Zev Griner
GRINER (Zamosc), PANCER, BOJM/BOIM/BAUM, ZAJDEL (Tomaszow Lubelski,
Jarczow)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Uncooperative Macher #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

Some people feel that because they spent so much time, effort, and
money creating their tree, gathering documents, visiting cemeteries
and archives, interviewing people, following every lead, that they
don't want to give their information to just anyone who asks for it.
This is understandable.

Some people are worried about privacy considerations if they don't
know you. I have those questions, too, about some people that contact
me. That is why I am leery to post to genealogical social networking
sites without strict privacy rules because I don't want someone's in-
laws (or out-laws) looking at live people's information.

Anyway, as a prior poster wrote, don't dwell on it and move on.
Perhaps you can recreate what you don't have on your own.

Zev Griner
GRINER (Zamosc), PANCER, BOJM/BOIM/BAUM, ZAJDEL (Tomaszow Lubelski,
Jarczow)


Re: Researching Manifests of ShipsThat Left America in Early 1900s #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

My county library provides free access to digitized archived
newspapers, such as the New York Times, that record information about
incoming, arrived, and outgoing ships. In the NYT, search for
"Shipping and Foreign Mails" to see the list of ships.

Zev Griner
Baltimore, MD
GRINER,PANCER, BOJM/BOIM/BAUM, ZAJDEL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Researching Manifests of ShipsThat Left America in Early 1900s #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

My county library provides free access to digitized archived
newspapers, such as the New York Times, that record information about
incoming, arrived, and outgoing ships. In the NYT, search for
"Shipping and Foreign Mails" to see the list of ships.

Zev Griner
Baltimore, MD
GRINER,PANCER, BOJM/BOIM/BAUM, ZAJDEL


Re: Avoiding the ill effects of scrolling through microfilm #general

Bob Kosovsky
 

Cindy Gallard <gallardc@...> wrote:

I am finding scrolling through microfilm increasingly difficult
because of the resulting nausea and splitting headaches. Has anyone
else experienced these effects and if so do you have any advice as to
how to avoid it?
You get those headaches >from watching the frames roll by. (This is the reason
why dancers need to "spot" i.e. focus on one point and not look at everything
turning by, otherwise they get dizzy.)

You will nausea by avoiding watching the film while it's moving. Look away >from
the film while it's moving, and then look again when the film has halted.

from personal experience, I note that I don't get dizzy if the film is moving
very fast - so fast that you can't see anything but just a blur of grey.

But ideally, you should not look at the film while it is moving.

Bob Kosovsky, New York City,
seeking any and all permutations/locations of:
KASOFSKI/Y, KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KOSOFSKY, KOSOVSKY, KOSOWSKY, etc.
KOSOW, KOSSOVE, etc. and other derivatives; >from Slutsk: GELFAND, DAVIDSON
Klodawa: JARET, JARETSKY, JARECKI, KOLSKY/I; Przedecz: PIFKO, PIWKO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Avoiding the ill effects of scrolling through microfilm #general

Bob Kosovsky
 

Cindy Gallard <gallardc@...> wrote:

I am finding scrolling through microfilm increasingly difficult
because of the resulting nausea and splitting headaches. Has anyone
else experienced these effects and if so do you have any advice as to
how to avoid it?
You get those headaches >from watching the frames roll by. (This is the reason
why dancers need to "spot" i.e. focus on one point and not look at everything
turning by, otherwise they get dizzy.)

You will nausea by avoiding watching the film while it's moving. Look away >from
the film while it's moving, and then look again when the film has halted.

from personal experience, I note that I don't get dizzy if the film is moving
very fast - so fast that you can't see anything but just a blur of grey.

But ideally, you should not look at the film while it is moving.

Bob Kosovsky, New York City,
seeking any and all permutations/locations of:
KASOFSKI/Y, KASOVSKI/Y, KASOWSKI/Y, KOSOFSKY, KOSOVSKY, KOSOWSKY, etc.
KOSOW, KOSSOVE, etc. and other derivatives; >from Slutsk: GELFAND, DAVIDSON
Klodawa: JARET, JARETSKY, JARECKI, KOLSKY/I; Przedecz: PIFKO, PIWKO


Birth certificates #hungary

Stuart Ungar <teamungar@...>
 

Hi,

I have an application to request birth certificates for my grandmother and her
family She was born in Leles, Hungary (now Slovakia).

On the application, they ask for maximum $$ that I would spend to find the
documents. What is typically a reasonable amount? I don't want to lowball it
and miss out, but I also don't want to drain my bank account too much (I've already
spent a fair amount on searching this past year).

Thoughts really appreciated!

Stuart Ungar
www.ungarfamilytree.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Birth certificates #hungary

Stuart Ungar <teamungar@...>
 

Hi,

I have an application to request birth certificates for my grandmother and her
family She was born in Leles, Hungary (now Slovakia).

On the application, they ask for maximum $$ that I would spend to find the
documents. What is typically a reasonable amount? I don't want to lowball it
and miss out, but I also don't want to drain my bank account too much (I've already
spent a fair amount on searching this past year).

Thoughts really appreciated!

Stuart Ungar
www.ungarfamilytree.com


Births to unmarried women in Vienna #austria-czech

kisanders
 

Hello Genners,

I have the marriage record for my great grandparents, Leon (Susche Leib) TURMANN and Rosa ZUCKERBERG
(changed >from Reisel CUKERBERG) that took place in Vienna on May 1, 1877.

The marriage record gives Schlomo (Salomon) TURMANN and Frieda KIPPER
as Leon's parents. The record shows Mayer CUKERBERG and Perl LANDES as the parents of Rosa. Leon was
born in Lemberg (July 15, 1849), and Rosa was born in 1846 in Wielki Lubin (?) They seem to have both
come to Vienna in 1873 (>from a note in the marriage record.)

I have a child of Leon and Rosa, Philipp TURMANN, who immigrated to America around 1890. On his
naturalization papers, he gave March 21, 1874 as his birth date. I have not found his passenger immigration
record. I have no record of his death either. What I would like to know is that if he was born several years
before his parents married, would he be listed in the Vienna record books? Did unmarried women report
births, or did they get sent somewhere to give birth? Wolf-Erich Eckstein sent me the names and dates of
some of Leon and RosaĆ¢??s children, and Philipp was not among them.

There was a Salomon TURMANN (buried with my gr-grandparents) that was born in 1877 and died in 1930.
This person was unknown to my family, which is odd since they are fairly knowledgeable about their uncles.
I thought that Salomon may have gone to the US and changed his name to Philipp, and then returned to
Vienna after his divorce. But this would not make sense as my mother was named after Philipp, and she was
born in 1924. Salomon's place of death was 1190, Kaufm. Spital, according to the cemetery record. Could it
be that be had some kind of defect (mental retardation or such) and that people like that were not
mentioned due to shame?

Any ideas would be welcomed.

Karen Sanders
West Haven, CT

Austria: TURMANN, CUKERBERG/ZUCKERBERG, ENZER,
KIPPER/KIEPER. KICZALES, KOHN


Sachwert und Mehrwert #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow Austria-Czech People,

I am translating Holocaust era German documents concerning my
Viennese grandfather and have come across two terms whose distinction
I have not been able to discern. They are Sachwert and Mehrwert.
German-English dictionaries, even legal and business dictionaries,
both published and on-line give the following translations of these
terms:

Sachwert - real value, asset value, material value

Mehrwert - added value, surplus value, additional value, overvalue

These definitions do not give me a clear indication of the difference
in meaning of these two terms. I would greatly appreciate it if
someone could give me definitions of these two terms.

Thank you,

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Births to unmarried women in Vienna #austria-czech

kisanders
 

Hello Genners,

I have the marriage record for my great grandparents, Leon (Susche Leib) TURMANN and Rosa ZUCKERBERG
(changed >from Reisel CUKERBERG) that took place in Vienna on May 1, 1877.

The marriage record gives Schlomo (Salomon) TURMANN and Frieda KIPPER
as Leon's parents. The record shows Mayer CUKERBERG and Perl LANDES as the parents of Rosa. Leon was
born in Lemberg (July 15, 1849), and Rosa was born in 1846 in Wielki Lubin (?) They seem to have both
come to Vienna in 1873 (>from a note in the marriage record.)

I have a child of Leon and Rosa, Philipp TURMANN, who immigrated to America around 1890. On his
naturalization papers, he gave March 21, 1874 as his birth date. I have not found his passenger immigration
record. I have no record of his death either. What I would like to know is that if he was born several years
before his parents married, would he be listed in the Vienna record books? Did unmarried women report
births, or did they get sent somewhere to give birth? Wolf-Erich Eckstein sent me the names and dates of
some of Leon and RosaĆ¢??s children, and Philipp was not among them.

There was a Salomon TURMANN (buried with my gr-grandparents) that was born in 1877 and died in 1930.
This person was unknown to my family, which is odd since they are fairly knowledgeable about their uncles.
I thought that Salomon may have gone to the US and changed his name to Philipp, and then returned to
Vienna after his divorce. But this would not make sense as my mother was named after Philipp, and she was
born in 1924. Salomon's place of death was 1190, Kaufm. Spital, according to the cemetery record. Could it
be that be had some kind of defect (mental retardation or such) and that people like that were not
mentioned due to shame?

Any ideas would be welcomed.

Karen Sanders
West Haven, CT

Austria: TURMANN, CUKERBERG/ZUCKERBERG, ENZER,
KIPPER/KIEPER. KICZALES, KOHN


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Sachwert und Mehrwert #austria-czech

Thomas F. Weiss
 

Dear fellow Austria-Czech People,

I am translating Holocaust era German documents concerning my
Viennese grandfather and have come across two terms whose distinction
I have not been able to discern. They are Sachwert and Mehrwert.
German-English dictionaries, even legal and business dictionaries,
both published and on-line give the following translations of these
terms:

Sachwert - real value, asset value, material value

Mehrwert - added value, surplus value, additional value, overvalue

These definitions do not give me a clear indication of the difference
in meaning of these two terms. I would greatly appreciate it if
someone could give me definitions of these two terms.

Thank you,

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)