Re: Jews Orphan Asylum Kent - England #unitedkingdom #records #yizkorbooks

Miriam Deutscher <miriamd1@...>

You don't mention about how your descent is Jewish.
Someone is only Jewish if they have maternal Jewish descent i.e. your mother's mother's mother etc. was Jewish. Otherwise you may have Jewish blood, but not actually be Jewish.

Surnames often help show if someone was Jewish, but not always. As one example, someone with a Jewish mother but a non-Jewish father might have a non-Jewish name (or the reverse). Aside from that names were sometimes misspelled or Anglicized to fit in better with society.

Miriam Deutscher

Re: Need Help Translating Documents From Poland #translation


Hello Dr. Josef,

Yes, I only need information pertaining to the Denenbergs.  As I have found these people on JRI-Poland in the past.  And the archives in Bialystok forwarded me these files they had on record.  The Denenberg my mother's side of the family.  They all originated from Biaylstok and immigrated to the USA.  Except for one who bastardized his way around Europe and has left our family with a legacy of newly discovered

Sophia Sherman

Virtual meeting Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland - September 9, 2020 #events #jgs-iajgs

Sylvia Fleck Abrams

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland for a virtual program on
Wednesday, September 9, 2020
at 7:00 pm
Getting the Most out of Family Tree Maker®
A Virtual Presentation by Duff Wilson
Software MacKIev, Inc.
This presentation will highlight all the latest features of Family Tree Maker 2019 as well as older features you may not use, but should. 2019 marked thirty years since Family Tree Maker was born, and it's only fitting that this new edition takes this grand old brand to places its original creators could only have dreamed of. Where every change you make to your tree on your Mac or PC can be instantly and automatically viewed from your smartphone or tablet. Where you can turn back time to erase mistakes you made even a thousand changes ago. Where you can arrange for your tree to be passed on to a relative of your choice along with your Family Tree Maker license to ensure your legacy lives on. You'll see all this and much more in this session.
In addition, all attendees will be eligible for a discounted price on Family Tree Maker by ordering through a special link that will be provided during the program.   A virtual drawing will be held for a complimentary copy at the conclusion of the program.  The drawing will be limited to members of the JGS of Cleveland that attend the session and are present at the time of the drawing.
Duff Wilson is considered by many as the father of modern Family Tree Maker having been involved in the design of every edition since 2004. He has two decades of software design and development experience and has earned national awards for his work. Duff is an avid genealogist and works closely with countless genealogists, ranging from novice to expert

This program is free and open to the public, but space may be limited. 
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Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

"The records that have been uploaded to jewishgen, certainly to JRI-PL, have usually been rudimetarily translated by poeple working for the archives. They are not in depth and names are sometimes not recognized correctly because the translators often are not familiar with Yiddish names"

This may have been true at one time, but volunteers now translate, at least for JRI-PL, for those records that are copied one way or another.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Were there markings on headstones that identify who the stonecutters were? #unitedkingdom

Yitschok Margareten

And here is one from Hungary, my great-grandfather died in 1929, marked on the bottom "Schreiber Debreceen".

I've also seen such inscriptions on a few tombstones I translated on JewishGen's Viewmate.

Yitschok Margareten 

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Reba, the Genealogies upload is hidden at the bottom of the Search - Genealogies page.

Click the button labeled "Submit Tree" to get started.

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Need help locating orphanage records from the ISRAEL ORPHAN ASYLUM #records

Raylene Gurewich

My mother was an orphan as an infant in the Israel Orphan Asylum in Manhattan per the 1930 census. I had requested her records from the JCCA, but nothing was found. Is there any other place I can look? I would like intake information. She was also in another orphanage in Manhattan when she was a bit older before being placed in foster care. She doesn't remember the name. 
Raylene Gurewich 
Port Jefferson Station, NY

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Here’s something different as a written long-term solution: LIBRARY OF CONGRESS
I haven’t read it through thoroughly, but it seems that if you print out on archival paper with margins for binding, they will do the rest. It’s not searchable, for that I’m still looking for the online archive, but it is a good solid place for a written copy with documents and photos. 

Reba Harris Solomon, New York

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


Dear Yale-
I agree so strongly. Diversification is a MUST!

I have also sent my trees to cousins, printed out and mailed, and I maintain a list of interested parties for each branch. Updated trees were sent in .pdf but I doubt that a single one of those got printed as each is over 100 pages, including my source copies of original documents.

I will leave a printed copy of each tree with each of my children (though no one has asked 😢.)

We almost did have the asteroid this spring, but thankfully I think I still have time to find a free online archive. 

Reba Harris Solomon, New York

Re: Searching Hamburg lists for family groups #records


My story the same. The family arrived in 1856 in NY departing from Hamburg. Both manifests found after months of searching on a family unit of parents and 4 children. Found using ages and many variations of given names. The surname in what was then Kosmin, Krotoszyn County (kreis), Greater Poland Voivodeship, Poland was LEVY or a variation of that. The family sailed out of Hamburg as LAPSAK and arrived in NYC as LAPSER. By the 1860 NYC census it was back to LEVI/LEVY.  The surname they sailed under is extremely rare. Back in the 1970s when I went on line to see if others had an idea why, no one knew. If anyone now has an idea, please share David Brener, Lancaster County, PA

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general


FamilySearch Update: I have been following up on the suggestion to put my trees in Family Search‘s special Archival area. As far as I can determine, this area is called IGI-International Genealogical Index. In the past, it accepted LDS and other family trees for archiving. It has NOT ACCEPTED NEW TREES since 2010 when the entire index was assembled and became part of Legacy’s collections. 
If I am incorrect and you know of a different FamilySearch archive still available out there, please let us all know. 
Reba Harris Solomon, New York

Re: Jews Orphan Asylum Kent - England #unitedkingdom #records #yizkorbooks

David Barrett

I believe that this is now referred to as Norwood and you would have to write direct to them to obtain , if I understand the law, any relevant information with PROOF of relationship 
Welcome to the clan 
David Barrett

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

Marcel Apsel

I am also using FamilyTreeMkaker and regularly make an Outline Descendant report on paper.  But there is a possibility to add or create new fields on the report.  With the facts windows.  I have not done it yet with the 2017 version, but on older versions it worked properly.


Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium

Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases #records

Sheila Toffell

The records that have been uploaded to jewishgen, certainly to JRI-PL, have usually been rudimetarily translated by poeple working for the archives. They are not in depth and names are sometimes not recognized correctly because the translators often are not familiar with Yiddish names. There are  jewishgen volunteers  who take on the task to go deeper into the record, and the results are uploaded. However, there could be errors at both levels. I have a situation like this with the name of a paternal great aunt, who is listed as Caim, but who was actually Chaia. The fact that this changes the sex of the person listed  could have confusing ramifications to a researcher. Luckily, I know the history of this lady. This information was relayed to the moderator for the town for correction. I suggest this is the best solution.

Shelia Toffell

Re: Were there markings on headstones that identify who the stonecutters were? #unitedkingdom

Russ Maurer

One matseva in the cemetery in Jodłowa, Poland (southeast of Tarnów) bears in small Hebrew letters the inscribed name and town of the stonecutter, H. Hojfmeister, Tarnow. He is listed in the Tarnów business directory of that time period (approximately 1930). It can be seen in the attached photo.

Russ Maurer
Pepper Pike Ohio

Re: Jews Orphan Asylum Kent - England #unitedkingdom #records #yizkorbooks

David Barrett

contact info

David Barrett

Re: Were there markings on headstones that identify who the stonecutters were? #unitedkingdom


I have a number of family members buried in a cemetery in Hungary and several of them had the stone cutter's name at the bottom of the stone. These were from the early to mid 1800s.

Alex Skolnick

Re: I Want My Trees To Outlive Me #general

David Mason

Richard Werbin –


External CD/DVD drives for laptops and desktops remain an option.  Plus most desktops still have 5.25” bays, plus SATA power and data connectors, so internal drives are easily added. 


If the day arrives when you need to move to a system without these options, then it’s time to copy data to some other medium.


Meanwhile, I would certainly want long-lived storage that I can retain (several copies) and easily distribute additional copies, that does not heavily depend on “the kindness of strangers”.  Neither magnetic nor “flash” media are reliable enough for the long haul. 


Archival paper -- printed with toner rather than ink – is another option, but it isn’t reliably machine-readable.  I have used OCR for both English and Russian text.  The output has ALWAYS needed careful proofing and correction.


-David Mason

Re: How to correct information in Jewishgen Databases / Polish letters #records #poland

Stephen Weinstein

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Miriam Bulwar David-Hay wrote:
in Polish there is a stroke through the l
That's not an "L" with a stroke; it's a completely different letter that just looks like an L with a stroke.

The letter L (uppercase) / l (lowercase) looks the same in English and Polish.  See

The letter Ł (uppercase) / ł (lowercase) is another letter.  In Polish, it is pronounced similarly to the letter W in English.  See

Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, CA, USA

Coalition of Guardians Launched--a Project Dealing with Jewish Cemeteries All Over Poland #announcements #poland

Jan Meisels Allen


A new initiative: Coalition of Guardians of Jewish Cemeteries in Poland was announced by Foundation for the Preservation of Jewish Heritage in Poland. It includes a map with all the Jewish cemeteries located in Poland. Each cemetery has its own subpage where one can check who looks after the place.


Note: I am taking the word of “all” from their website. I was not able to find my ancestral towns’ cemeteries listed.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee