Re: Family Tree #general

Roy Star

I have the same problem. Over the years, I have printed everything and preserved them in a folder with plastic sleeves, like a book! Whereas in the past, you could update individual pages when you added or amended your details automatically, it would, unfortunately, mean RE-TYPING individual pages where information is altered! Can anybody offer an alternative solution?

Roy Star

Naming Conventions #names

Carl Kaplan

Two questions regarding naming conventions:

In the late 1800s, if paternal and maternal grandfathers were both deceased when the first son was born, would he have been named after the paternal grandfather, or was it a choice?

When did the practice start for using the first letter of a deceased relative's name for a child, rather than the whole name? Example being naming a child Carl, after his grandfather Charles?

Thank you.
Carl Kaplan

KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania

Re: how to print a large tree #general


Other people have responded about how to export a printable tree in Family Tree Maker 2019.   The question then is where to get it printed, presuming you want it on one sheet of paper.  I was able to work with a local printing service that had a printer with a continuous roll of paper in order to get my tree printed.  Alternatively, there are online services that specialized in printing large family trees.   See the article for information on these.

- Miriam Alexander Baker

Re: Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna


I did a search on the JewishGen Discussion Group Archives for "Switched at birth"  and found what you may be looking for:

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 9/21/2020 6:38 AM, Judite Orensztajn wrote:

Some time ago I read a story (in Jewish Gen) about a mistake that occurred in an hospital in USA anda because of this a Jewish and an Irish baby were switched. The story was told by the daughter of the Jewish boy that was educated by the Irish family. Try to find this story.
Shana tovah and gmar chatima tova,
Judite Orensztajn, Givataiym, Israel

Re: Registry Files: USCIS information #records


If they arrived (but with no immigrant arrival record*) in the 1940’s they might be eligible for Registry/Lawful Entry proceedings after 1965 or 1986.  Let me explain.


This question highlights how Registry proceedings were always “after the fact.”  The 1929 Act called it “Registry,” but by the early 1940’s INS changed the name to “Lawful Entry”—but it was the same legal provision, and remained the same provision in the law to this day.  


The 1929 Act set an arrival “cut-off date” for eligibility.  This means under the 1929 Act only people who arrived prior to June 3, 1921, could apply for Registry.  Over the years Congress updated the law, moving the date forward.  Whenever they moved the date forward additional people (later arrivals) became eligible for this form of “legalization.”  The changes were:


1929 (45 STAT 1512) Eligible if entered (arrived) prior to June 3, 1921

1939 (53 STAT 1243) Eligible if entered (arrived) prior to July 1, 1924

1952 (66 STAT 219) Eligible if entered (arrived) prior to July 1, 1924

1958 (Pub. L. 85–616) Eligible if entered (arrived) prior to June 28, 1940

1965 (Pub. L. 89–236) Eligible if entered (arrived) prior to June 30, 1948

1986 (Pub. L. 99–603, as amended by Pub. L. 100–525) Eligible if entered (arrived) prior to January 1, 1972


Thus if someone arrived in 1945 but without an immigrant arrival record*, they would not become eligible for Registry/Lawful Entry proceedings until 1965.  If they arrived in 1949 they would not be eligible until 1986.


ALSO, the USCIS Registry Files only hold this material between 1929 and 1944.  Beginning April 1, 1944, all applications for Registry/Lawful Entry were filed in an A-file.  And if the person naturalized prior to April 1, 1956, all that material would have moved to the C-file.  


Sorry it is so complicated.  I hope this helps,


Marian Smith


*You might find someone recorded in the records as admitted temporarily (non-immigrant arrival, or crewman record).  But that is not a record of admission as an immigrant, so they have no record of LPR admission.

Re: 1869 Hungarian Census #hungary #translation

Alex Magocsi <awmjr@...>


It would be helpful if you would post the link to your Viewmate posting.  I, like Phil K, searched for the referenced document but could not find it.


Alex Magocsi

Re: Why a 1911 Registry Office Wedding? #unitedkingdom #general

Michael Sharp

Not all synagogues had a licence from the authorities to certify weddings.

My parent's own wedding in 1952 had to be certified at the local registry office after the synagogue ceremony

The United Synagogue website has a facility to search for the Chief Rabbi's authorisation for their synagogue wedding and the certificate it holds will give details of the synagogue where the ceremony took place and their Hebrew names

Michael Sharp

Re: how to print a large tree #general

Eva Lawrence

Family Tree Maker 2019 has a facility in the Publish mode for exporting a tree as a one-page pdf. You can find it by clicking  on the Share  icon, top right..  You can then print the saved file in any size you chose with a suitable printer. I've  printed copies of an A4 print-up with details too small to read on an A3 sheet at my local library, where the copier enlarges to A3 if required.  Alternatively, a commercial printing firm can work on your one-page pdf to your requrements.
FTM  also has a facility to produce a  tree in book form, which I haven't explored myself.  But I have pieced together  trees from several A3 sized pages (all printed at local library) by just being careful to produce them all to the same scale so that the  lines match from one sheet to the next.  
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Why a 1911 Registry Office Wedding? #unitedkingdom #general

Jill Whitehead

I do not know about register office weddings in early 20th century, but I do know that it was not uncommon for marriages to take place at home, certainly in Scotland. My great grandfather's niece was married at his home in Edinburgh. He had come over in 1870 aged 15 with other siblings and cousins who were younger than him.   He married his cousin in 1877 in a synagogue in Edinburgh, but his niece (sister's daughter) had come over in the 1890s after her mother's and father's deaths, and represented a "poorer"  part of the family. She was married in 1906 at home with my great grandfather as witness.  This did seem to be a pattern with other similar instances ie poorer members of families coming over later being married at home. The first instance of Register Office weddings in my family was in the 1930's. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Re: how to print a large tree #general

Eva Lawrence

-- FamilyTreemaker allows you to export you tree you've constructed and saved in the Publish mode as a single-page pdf file. You can the print a copy of  this at any size you wish with your installed prinr programme. Most home printers don't print on paper larger than A4, but I've been able to enlarge my A4 sheet (which had details too small to read)  on a copier at at the local library, which allows sizes up to A3.  Alternatively there is  a facility to print the tree in book form in the FTM 2017 Publish mode, By clicking on the headings in the Publish mode, and/or right-clicking names on the original tree you'll find lots of other editing facilities as well. 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

Re: Palestine Censuses of 1922 and 1931 for Ness Ziona, Israel #israel #records

David Lewin

At 01:28 21/09/2020, Ava Nackman wrote:
We know absolutely nothing about the families of my husband's
great-grandparents, who arrived in the US with their children in
1908. However, I have located a ship manifest listing them as going
to Ness Ziona in Palestine in 1928 to visit a "parent". The
Wikipedia article on Ness Ziona mentions two censuses done there by
the British Mandate authorities in 1922 and 1931. Can anyone tell
me what form these censuses took? Were they just headcounts, or did
they actually list household members by name? If the latter, can
anyone tell me where they would be available to view? It would be
exciting if I could learn something about the relatives of these
great-grandparents in this way! Also, if anyone knows of any other
types of records from that time frame that would have been kept in
Ness Ziona and might still be extant, I would love to know about
them. Thank you.
Ava Nackman
Do you read Hebrew? gives
access to the Israel National Linbrary.

It ALSO has publications in English

David Lewin

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage
of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the
Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at

Re: Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna

Judite Orensztajn

Some time ago I read a story (in Jewish Gen) about a mistake that occurred in an hospital in USA anda because of this a Jewish and an Irish baby were switched. The story was told by the daughter of the Jewish boy that was educated by the Irish family. Try to find this story.
Shana tovah and gmar chatima tova,
Judite Orensztajn, Givataiym, Israel

Preserving Lviv Jewish Cemeteries #ukraine

Tony Hausner

Several members of the Lviv Jewish Community have been battling with the Lviv City Government over the preservation of the Jewish cemeteries.  There are two cemeteries in the city.  This battle has been going on in the courts for many years and the leader of this effort has been Rabbi Meylakh Sheykhet and the UCSJ (Union of Councils for Jews in the Former Soviet

Union).  Here is a link to a letter from UCSJ to Secretary Pompeo about this issue (See
Recently, Rabbi Sheykhet has learned that lawyers in the Ukranian Parliament are willing to submit legislation to protect the cemeteries.  He is asking for contributions of $5000 to pay these lawyers for their services.  Please let me know if you are willing to make contributions for this cause and the amount. 
Tony Hausner 
Tony Hausner
Founder, Safe Silver Spring
Past Chair, 
AAII Chapter Leaders Executive Committee
Cell: 301-641-0497


Tony Hausner

Re: Family Tree #general

Joyaa Antares

To better ensure those with a knowledgeable response notice your question, may I suggest reposting this question under a more informative title?  Something like: "Flash Player will disappear: how do I preserve family tree posted on MyCanvas?"
Good luck with your enquiry.
Joyaa ANTARES, Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia

BIALYI family #belarus #names

Jacques Klein

Is there somebody having connections with BIALYI family who lived in Grodno (Belarus) in the second half of XIXth century. I know Schlioma, married to Beila, both parents of Pessia born in 1886.
Jacques Klein

Academic Education in Krakow #translation #poland

Yaron Wolfsthal

Dear Group,

Please see these quotes from the student book of Jagiellonian University, Krakow (where my relative studied in 1920):

I could not transcribe these few words (department/domain of study, basis for matriculation,  address of apartment),

Would appreciate your help.

Thank you very much! - Yaron Wolfsthal

Re: how to print a large tree #general

Dahn Cukier

Printing a large tree. If you want to print on a number of pages
there are many ways to do so, but to print on one large page, you
will need to use a plotter. *

I produce a tree in jpg format from "Agelong Tree".
I load Agelong from a GED file I produce from the software
I use, but does not have a way to produce a
"nice" (subjective) tree.

I take the JPG file on a flash drive to a print service
I find near most city halls where people
copy, or print,  blue prints. Be sure they print
the file at 100% and not as some programs save the
file. I have used only 2 locations, one required
TIF format and the other PDF. Each was able
to convert my JPG to their formats.

I have 1600, 1300 are linked and I get a tree of 40cm by
18 meters. 

Additional question: The largest home format printers I find
are A3, does anyone know of a home printer that will
take continuous paper?

Dahn Cukier

* In the olden days, before 2005 or so, there were dot matrix printers
and software to print sideways on continuous paper.

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas

On Sunday, September 20, 2020, 7:24:14 PM GMT+3, renato mannheimer <renato@...> wrote:

I would like to print my tree that has approximately 500 names. I cannot do it with the program I use (Family Tree Maker 2019). Is there another program or way to print it?

Thank you for your help
Renato Mannheimer

Re: How to find UKRAINE birth and marriage records #ukraine #records #russia

Stephen Cohen

Hi Deborah,

At this point there are no translations. You must either learn to read Pre-Revolution and Hebrew handwriting, or hire someone to do this. I opted for the former route, and can make out pretty well most names till the handwriting gets dreadful.

JewishGen has indexed a small number of the records, but I don't know if Zaslav is included.

-Steve Cohen
Central New Jersey

ViewMate translation request - Hungarian #translation #hungary


Hi, I've posted four records in Hungarian for which I need translations. It is on ViewMate at the following addresses:

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much!

Jason Lohn

Re: Why a 1911 Registry Office Wedding? #unitedkingdom #general

Peggy Mosinger Freedman

I found a similar story in a newspaper clipping (available during the IAJGSG Conference on one of the paid sites).  I have attached the article from the St. Louis Post Dispatch in 1910.

Apparently, my very proper Great Aunt Rose tried to elope with the love of her life, Herman B. Gotteib in 1910.  Her mother grabbed the couple, took them home, called the Rabbi, and there was a small wedding at the house that evening.

This is all very far away from the Liverpool registry office, but the article mentions that six of Rose's first cousins had already eloped.  Rose was born in Latvia.(Rachel Poole mentions that part of her family was from Latvia, too.)

I wonder if we are overthinking this.  I wonder if young couples at the beginning of the Modern New Era of the Twentieth Century just wanted to skip some of the ornate rituals of a very traditional Jewish wedding.  Having a Rabbi at the Registry office might be a simple compromise.

It's not proof, but something else to consider.

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Atlanta, GA