Re: My maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER #ukraine

Barbara Ellman

Judith asked about birth record for her grandmother from  Strzeliska.  
If you look at the listing of records on JRI Poland it shows the years for which records exist.  There are missing years from these records.  So it is likely that the birth took place during those periods.  You might look in neighboring towns as sometimes the family moved or a birth took place in the mother's hometown.

As you do not know if your grandmother came to the US, try other US records such as census and death records.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus, NJ

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland

Re: Libraries with Ancestry Remote Access Through ProQuest Has Been Extended Through June 30 #announcements


I can successfully access ProQuest using my New York Public Library. However, I can not find the link to In ProQuest genealogy sites I only see newspapers. I have the same result when starting with ProQuest and logging in with my library barcode. I also tried to start with but could not find access. How do I access Library Edition?  Please be as specific as possible. Thank you in advance. 

Reba Harris Solomon
New York/Florida

Translation Request #latvia #russia




Attached is a handwritten Soviet report of the Nazi atrocities that occurred in Rezekne. 

I would be extremely grateful if anyone could translate parts of it to English. 

Shabbat Shalom, 

Yoav Aran
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Re: pre-war telephone directories #poland #warsaw #belarus

Gerald and Margaret

Can I suggest you make contact with a group called the Together Plan which is working with Jewish communities in Belarus, by helping them to help themselves.  They have recently branched out into genealogy, knowing that this is such a growth activity, and they are trying to promote working together between Belarus and the Western World.  

See below,
Margaret Levin, London UK

Try this:-

genealogical research services | Together Plan

We also offer bespoke written reports with photographs of locations of interest and details of how they look todayWe can include information on local Jewish activity as well as information about local communities and important heritage sitesEvery family is unique so please contact us for more information and a quote for our services

Re: Question re Polish parents' anglicised names on 1896 UK Naturalization Certificate #unitedkingdom #poland

Barry Clarke

Your response and confirmation much appreciated. Seems likely the case is the same in the UK.


Barry Clarke

Re: ISERSTEIN FAMILY #austria-czech

Thomas Salzberger

Hi Peter,

Have you had a look at

It is a valuable source for research in Austria but also covers parts of neighboring countries.

It is absolutely free, just requires resgistration, and has an English interface, too.

Hope all good in Sydney.
(Have been there many times.) 

Thomas Salzberger

Re: Earliest Use of Surnames in Europe/Romania? #romania #general #names

Theo Rafael

Bennett Muraskin compiled in 2012 some of the origins and meanings of Ashkenazi last names. The photos and links inside the article are dead however:

This version of the article is visually more pleasing but incomplete:

Theo Rafael

Re: My maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER #ukraine

Diane Jacobs

Have you searched all the passenger manifests arriving other than new York?

Go to and see all the other ports. Also search the Canadian passenger
Manifests and Canadian Border crossings. 

People entered from other ports And be sure to search phonetically and starts with.

Diane Jacobs

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Date: 5/29/20 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [] My maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER #ukraine

I have been unable to determine when my maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER, came to the US and the town of her birth.  I know her sister came with her parents in 1899 from Strzeliska, which at that time was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and is in present-day Ukraine.  I have been unable to find any record of her birth or her immigration to the US.  I have searched the Ellis Island records and JRI-Poland.  Any suggestions as to how I might search records from Ukraine?  Is anyone familiar with this town?

Judith Gertler
Wellesley, MA

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Renseignements sur Nilou ( Daniel ) Sternberg né en Roumanie vers 1898-1899 mais demeurant à Paris dans les années 1940/ information on Daniel Sternberg Romania/Paris #france #romania

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris, 
I reply in English to be understood by most of our fellow detectives.
When persons lived in France for some decades, as Daniel Stenberg did, there is a high probability they became French citizens.
They had to give a lot of documents for their naturalization file : parents identity, list and identity of siblings (even living in foreign countries), places they lived since they left their bith country, places where they worked, they survived WWII, etc...
This file is in French National Archives near Paris and is accessible upon a special request on their web site
File is not available on line, but you can come to scan it on place or ask for a copy, but delays are in months.
These archives are still closed due to lockdown.
For persons who lived in Paris, you can get also data in Paris city Archives :
You must understand that French policy of privacy protection does'nt fully open all these archives online and it's much more difficult to recover our parents' past.
Bernard Flam
Archives and history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen circle) of France
Flam, Agid, Stoltz around Lemberg
Zysman, Kronenberg, Rottersman around Lodz

Re: ISRAELOVICI, ISRAILOVICI from Braila or Galatz, Romania. #general

Cristina Ichim <ichim.cristina17@...>

I have found the se with the name Israelovici from Romania, I do not know if it has something to do with your search...

Cristina Ichim

Re: pre-war telephone directories #poland #warsaw #belarus

Bernard Flam

Hi from Paris,
Two days ago, you had the perfect answer in post #643578 by Jenny Schwartzberg :
May 28   
"A lot of these phone books are searchable at:
A list of the directories included are at:
Jenny Schwartzberg
Chicago, IL, USA

Re: Transcript Please #germany

Reuven Stern

Thank you very much Ernst Peter Winter.
Reuven Stern, Kfar Vradim Israel
Researching families Behr, Stern, Markovits, Lebovits, Suessholz, Joseph

Does anyone know anything about the Jewish community in Pruzana? #belarus


Looking particularly for relatives of ROSENBAUM (ROZENBAUM) and KATZ in the town of Pruzana around 1900 and before.

M. Bekken
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ViewMate translation request - Polish #poland

Susana Nagel

I've posted a marriage record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address:
If possible, I would like a translation of the full document (instead of only the key data).
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much!
Susana Nagel

Re: Question re Polish parents' anglicised names on 1896 UK Naturalization Certificate #unitedkingdom #poland

Peter Lebensold

I have a somewhat similar situation where people who my mother had always told me were relatives had been using a newly-adopted surname (WERNER) since their arrival in the U.K. in 1907.  On their application (in 1913) for U.K. Naturalization, they not only used their new - WERNER - family name but also (I guess to keep things simple) retroactively renamed the parents of the groom (back in Poland) as WERNERs too!  Needless to say, this made finding any relevant earlier Polish records quite difficult ... until it dawned on me that, while they might have changed the parents' surname, they were unlikely to have gone to the trouble of changing their given names or their home town.  A search of JRI-Poland with both the WERNERs' given names quickly found their wedding registration - as SZAFIRs, my mother's maiden surname.  I suspect that no one, at the time, ever bothered to check (even if they could be found) any of the Polish records.  There is no indication that the SZAFIR parents ever used the name WERNER.

pre-war telephone directories #poland #warsaw #belarus

Michael Rosenberg

Does anyone know where I can access pre-war telephone directories for Warsaw and Brest Litovsk? 
Michael  Rosenberg
searching for Rosenberg, Golomb, Chani

Re: When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? #galicia

Mark Jacobson

Jews in Galicia were emancipated and given rights of citizenship by the Austrians in the 1860s, the right to a passport would be included. Some people obtained passprts, but passports were not needed for travel to the United States until after World War I. By that time Galicia was part of the new nation of Poland and Jews who emigrated obtained Polish passports as Polish citizens.

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia

On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 10:15:14 AM EDT, Richard Stower <rstower@...> wrote:

When were Jews in Galicia (Poland and now Ukraine) allowed to have passports? Where would applications be found?

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My maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER #ukraine


I have been unable to determine when my maternal grandmother, Fanny RECHTSCHAFFNER, came to the US and the town of her birth.  I know her sister came with her parents in 1899 from Strzeliska, which at that time was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and is in present-day Ukraine.  I have been unable to find any record of her birth or her immigration to the US.  I have searched the Ellis Island records and JRI-Poland.  Any suggestions as to how I might search records from Ukraine?  Is anyone familiar with this town?

Judith Gertler
Wellesley, MA

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Re: Aide généalogie juive polonaise / Does a name suffice to prove Jewish ancestry?) #france #poland #names


Good morning.

My name is Rollie Stamps, email curtstamps@...

You and I are in the same situation. I am an American, raised as a Christian, but also felt an affinity towards the Jewish people. Neither side of my family knew anything about our ancestors past about 4 generations ago. I worked with several DNA companies with a varied degree of success as the first failed to report my last generation and the second did. My ancestors were Jews and I didn't know anything about them. I have since worked hard to make a family tree for both sides of my family and have been very successful with the information. Once I started getting names, I bounced them off of the database for to verify if their names were on record. I was very impressed with the findings. A word of caution, however, when using databases, I have noticed some minor errors, so always try to use more than one data base and show credit for the information you get. That will allow you to find the information in the future and also prove your relationship to them when needed. Also, get your DNA tested. That way your findings can't be argued. Autosomal DNA testing gives you the ethnic groups of both sides of your family, but only going back about 4 to 6 generations, so about 150 years give or take. Women can have their female lineage tested using mtDNA. This is only for women and tests the womens side only (Daughter-Mother, etc.). For men, the test is yDNA. It tests only the males side (Son-Father, etc.).
I was thinking about your statement "does a name prove jewish ancestry"? I believe it can, if you also use available scientific testing with your trees. In addition, verify the names are not sound a-likes. Not all people with the same last name are related. For that matter, not all names that people think are Jewish sounding are in fact from a Jewish family. The fact that you can connect yourself to another person through lineage with DNA and/or use of one or more databases or printed media is likely sufficient, depending on the sources you use. What you might be asking is whether or not this connection makes you a "Jew". If that is your question, than no it does not. I have spoken to a few rabbis and understand this better than I did when I started looking. I am not qualified to go deeper into that explanation other than this, if you are like me, a Christian, than we do not worship through Judaism and are not considered to be Jews. I believe the term for us is "seed of Israel", if you indeed are of Jewish lineage. Personally, I take pride in my Jewish heritage and support Israel. My parents raised me this way.
You asked about Catholic registers. I am not Catholic, but have been able to connect the dots on our history and a possible explanation why our ancestors stopped worshiping as Jews. Persecution by the Catholic church, called "pogroms". I have found several members of my tree were listed as Catholic clergy with an assortment of positions, but none the less counted as Jews. One was even Sainted in Belgium as a Beer maker. As Europe became less friendly to the Jewish population, it appears more immigrated here to the United States. I think it is amazing the lengths that people will go to in order to save their lives and that of their families. In the cases of my Catholic relations, I can only presume they were either hiding deep or their family had stopped worshiping through Judaism so long ago that they didn't realize their own heritage. I personally believe it was both. 
If you have not had your DNA tested, try for your autosomal test.I do not work for them, but they were the second DNA company that tested me. They have their own data and are based in Israel. In addition, they show their test results down to 1% of ethnic rendering unlike the others. If you still don't find anything but don't want to give up, don't. You might find it after all. I hope this helped and let me know if you need any clarification. 

Rollie Stamps

BAMBERGERs in mid-19th century Hartford #germany #usa

Neil Kominsky

I have significant indications of a relationship between two sets of BAMBERGERs living in Hartford, Connecticut around 1850. 
One family originates with David BAMBERGER, b. Bavaria 1780, d. New York City, 1866. The 1855 Hartford City Directory has him in the clothing business on Main Street.   His son is Leopold BAMBERGER, b. Rheinpfalz, Bavaria 6/27/1827, d. San Francisco 8/21/1902.  Leopold's wife was Theresa LITTAUER.  Their children, both born in Hartford, were Hulda BAMBERGER, b.10/12/1850, married Marcus J. Waldheimer of New York, d. Los Angeles, 7/18/1925, and Ira Leo BAMBERGER, b.1/21/1852, who went on to become a prominent attorney in New York, d.12/28/1919.
The other family is Hannah BAMBERGER FOX, b. in Bavaria 5/24/1814, d. Hartford 12/12/1875. Hannah was the wife of Gerson FOX (born FUCHS), (1811-1880). He was the proprietor of a fancy goods shop on Main Street, which his descendants grew into G. Fox & Co, Hartford's major department store.
Besides the connections of name and locale, I have found a New York business document from the 1870s which groups as corespondents in a lawsuit Ira Leo BAMBERGER, Jacob WALDHEIMER, who was Hulda's father-in-law, and Gerson Fox, who would have no reason to be involved in a NY business situation except for a possible connections with the BAMBERGERs, who, by then, had moved to New York.
I have been absolutely unable to document Hannah BAMBERER FOX's family of origin, which I think is the key to the situation.
Any help on this stone wall would be much appreciated.
Neil Kominsky
Brookline, MA

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