Podenszczyk = an archaic Russian word for a temporary worker hired (paid?) on "per day" basis.

Jerychem is the Yiddish pronunciation of the Hebrew name Yerocham,   Yerocham appears in the book of Samuel as the father of Elkanah.  It has nothing to do with Jericho.  It is related to the word rachem-mercy.  

Hi Annette:

There certainly is a similarity of names - even beyond your story, but I do not see a clear family connection just yet.

The similarity in names arises from the fact that my grandfather, Samuel Schwartz, born in Monasterzyska, married Dora Kessler.  She was from Pruzhany, Belarus.  They met in NYC and married in Toronto.    

Moshe was born in 1815 and died in 1900.  The oral history written down in the family is that he was born and remained in Monasteryzska.  He made rope.  We do not know of any connection between him and Stanislawow.

My great grandfather, Peretz, lived for a while in Stanislawow, possibly sometime not long before WWI and definitely after the war.  He may have died there.  His home was shelled during the war and he and my great grandmother survived in the basement.  I do not have good dates for any of this.

It is the family's understanding that all of Moshe's children were born in Monasterzyska. The earliest connection to Stanislawow I have found is with Moshe's son, Mordachai, better known as Markus.  Mordachai married at age 25 Chale Sure Ebert in 1880.  I presume Mordachai moved to the Stanislawow for business not long before 1880, met Chale and they married.  They had 15 children.  Mordachai was my grandfather's uncle, and most of Mordachai's children emigrated to the US.  

I am in the process of identifying all Schwartzes (including spelling variations) from Monasterzyska via stevemorse.com and will chart them and their families from info in the manifests or possibly naturalization documents.  I'll try to do the same for Stanislawow-associated Schwartzes per stevemorse,   I'll share this info with you when I pull it together.  I'm also planning on posting to Viewmate some 20th Century Monasterzyska-associated Schwartz metrical records for translation in the next week for inclusion in the "chart."

Regards, 
Harry

Yes MyHeritage has some great benefits!

MyHeritage hosts small trees free of charge, so it has family trees that are not on other sites.  I have found DNA matches on AncestryDNA but the trees are on MyHeritage.  MyHeritage can be a gold mine.   I recently found my (non-Jewish) great great grandmother on a MyHeritage tree.   She had left her family and gone to live with another man a long way away.   She used his name for the rest of her life, and her death was registered under that name.   The MyHeritage tree indexed her under her assumed name, her maiden name and her married name.   This indexing retrieves large numbers of trees, but I scanned hundreds of trees and she jumped out from the screen!   There is no other way I would have found her.

Another advantage of MyHeritage is its ownership of Legacy software, which I use on my own computer.   I get MyHeritage hints in Legacy, which is interesting and useful.

I like the fact that MyHeritage owns Geni.com and I think I will transfer my tree to Geni when I am older, so that it will be freely available in the public domain and indexed by Google for any descendants to find their roots in the future.  

It is possible to adopt a strategic approach:  Subscribe to a site for a year and do some intensive research on that site.

Best wishes for your  research
Julia Trainor
Canberra, Australia
Searching Jewish ancestors from Austrian Czech Lands:  AUSPITZER, DEUTSCH, FESSLER, GLESINGER, GOTTLIEB, SCHMIDL, WEINGARTEN

Dear Friends

 We are delighted to invite you to the annual meeting of the Jewishgen Latvia Research Division.

 

 This year the meeting will be held virtually during the 40th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy  and you will need to register for free sessions at this link:

 

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 (We recommend that you watch on the largest screen you have) We will give you brief updates on our work this year and then we’ll open the floor to questions and a discussion. We are busy with some exciting projects that will interest you.

 

The meeting will take place on 13 August 2020 at:

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I'm a retired newspaper copy editor. I don't know what the procedure was in 1908 at the Boston Globe, but I can tell you that when I was working, this sort of information was very often provided by the family, very often on a fill-in-the-blanks form provided by the newspaper. It was then typed in by newsroom clerks. If the form was filled in by hand (more likely than not, especially in 1908), it's possible that the clerk misread the submitter's handwriting. It's equally possible that the submitter ticked the wrong box indicating the best man's relationship to the groom. The bottom line is this: It's best to consider any information you get from a newspaper birth, engagement, marriage or death announcement as nothing more than a clue until you have confirmed the information from primary sources. In this case, that would mean finding out who Frank's parents were and seeing how they're related to (or if they are the same as) the groom's.

This, of course, is not to say you shouldn't trust anything you find in a newspaper. But you have to consider how the information was gathered. A news story, written by the reporter who gathered the information and edited by one or more editors, generally will be more reliable than a society-page announcement.
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Try:
https://researchworks.oclc.org/archivegrid/

There is a theory that maternal great great grandmother Sarah Hinde
(married to Shlomo KANTOR of Pinsk/Karlin) was a descendant of Reb.
Chaim of Volozhin. I do not know her maiden name. In one scribbled
note I saw the name LANDAU. I am aware that Itzaleh the son of Reb.
Chaim had a daughter who was married to a Reb. Shmuel LANDAU.

I haven't found her name in any of the published trees of Reb. Chaim
which I've seen. Does any one who is doing Reb. Chaim's tree know of
the above Sarah Hinde KANTOR?

Shavua tov

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

--
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Hi Harry,

I'm not sure this will help, but we may have a connection somewhere along the line.

My Paternal great grand mother's name was Helen (Yehudit) Teiksler born 1858, and her ship manifest from 1906 indicates that she was from Stanislawow. She had 2 sons, Abraham and Israel, and Abraham had a son Moishe.

Helen was married to Samuel Benjamin Zweifler in Stanislawow, but since it was a religious one, not civil, it was not sanctioned by the Austro-Hungarian government, and she, Abraham, Israel and Moishe all retained the Teiksler name.

When Abraham married, his marriage certificate confirms the above names.  However, it also indicates that Helen's parents were Hersh Tzvi Schwartz and Miriam Kessler.

Just on the basis of similar names, does any of this ring a bell to you ...may we possibly be distant cousins?
By the way, I have run into similar problems with the lack of available records in Galicia.

I'd appreciate you getting back to me one way or another ... thanks!

Annette Weiss
New York City

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 06:04 AM, Ani Home wrote:

Hersch Hoffman

Sara,

Looking at the manifest for Hersch Hoffman, on the Helvetia in 1889, it appears he is not alone; he has a 10 year old Dora with him; it's on the next page, below him.

Margie
margiegeiser@...
Arizona, USA

LEVINE/LEWIN, SILBERNAGEL/ZYLBERNAGEL/SILVER, EPSTEJN/EPSTEIN, MOCZYDLOWER/MOCHEDLOVER, ERLICH, GRUNPELTZ, JOSKOWICZ, ZYLBERSZTEJN, SZTABINSKA, WILK

Hi Dawn,

Have you tried searching for the ship manifest containing the name of your ggf Edward. Go to https://www.familysearch.org/ or the Ellis Island site  https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/
 
The manifest will fill in some of the missing information including the name of the ship and actual date of arrival in NYC.

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona 

Hello Carl,
On Ancestry, I found that Norma died in New Jersey. Then I checked Newspapers.com and found several articles about her including one about the death of her daughter due to a car accident. The newspaper articles identified her husband as Herbert Rabinowitz, who also died in New Jersey. I did not find a marriage record. I did however, find a marriage record for her parents ( see below) Also, the 1920 census provides names of siblings for Bertha and other famly members, which may be helpful in tracking down long lost family members. (see census record below)

https://www.newspapers.com/image/516891247/?terms=Norma%20Rabinowitz&match=1# - article about Norma receiving an award, with a photo. Let me know if you don't have access to it and I'll clip it for you.
https://www.newspapers.com/image/144923840/?terms=Norma%20Rabinowitz&match=1 - article about the daughter's (Ann) death in Sep. 1975. She has a brother named Daniel
https://www.newspapers.com/image/146511815/?terms=Daniel%20Rabinowitz&match=1 - article about a burglary at the Rabinowitz home

New Jersey death index
Norma Rabinowitz
Age:     57
Birth Date:     25 Jan 1938
Death Date:     19 Dec 1995
Death Place:     Fort Lee Borough, Bergen, New Jersey, USA

Herbert F. Rabinowitz
Social Security Number:     091-30-3670
Birth Date:     7 Dec 1937
Issue Year:     1954-1956
Issue State:     New York
Last Residence:     07024, Fort Lee, Bergen, New Jersey, USA
Death Date:     1 Jun 1989
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=3693&h=50488263&tid=&pid=&queryId=2c3547467a5d7ef2b3e7bad47a81e5b2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=DWn1406&_phstart=successSource

Name: Joseph Kaplan
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Feb 1937
Event Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Event Place (Original): Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Nathan Kaplan
Mother's Name: Sarah Levin Kaplan
Spouse's Name: Bertha D Kaplan
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Kaplan
Spouse's Mother's Name: Fannie Gelfont

Name: Bertha Kaplan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Philadelphia Ward 32, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Event Place (Original): Philadelphia Ward 32, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1913
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace: Russia
Mother's Birthplace: Russia
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 11


Household    Role    Sex    Age    Birthplace
Joseph Kaplan    Head    M    34    Russia
Fanny Kaplan    Wife    F    33    Russia
Sarah Kaplan    Daughter    F    9    Pennsylvania
Bertha Kaplan    Daughter    F    7    Pennsylvania
Hymen Kaplan    Brother    M    50    Russia
Dora Kaplan    Sister-in-law    F    47    Russia
Ida Kaplan    Niece    F    16    Russia
Celia Kaplan    Niece    F    14    Pennsylvania
Frank Kaplan    Nephew    M    8    Pennsylvania
May Kaplan    Daughter    F    6    Pennsylvania
David Malofsky    Lodger    M    20    Pennsylvania

Good.  It's a very annoying feature and Ancestry isn't the only company to do it.

Mark,

On page 1 of your grandmother's manifest there is an "X" next to her name. I believe that means she was detained.  Women traveling alone or with children were detained until a husband, brother or other family member could be contacted.  At the end of the manifest there should be a separate listing of detainees.  My grandmother was also detained for this same reason until her husband came to collect her.  In her case, the detainee list was typed. If the list was typed in your grandmother's case that might give you answers to some of your questions.

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona
 

Max,

Many thanks!  This is incredibly helpful and I will find all the records you list.  What intrigues me is that, given these data, Frederique would have been a widow at age 16yrs.  Do you know if marriages that young were common in the community?  She would have then married Solomon at age 18yrs.

I also noticed that in Lembach there was an Emanuel Meyer and a Michael Meyer having children in the same years as Solomon was having children.  Do you know if they were related?  I have been told that Solomon was from Bavaria.  I do not know when, how or why he settled in Lembach.

Best,
Barbara Stein

Is there a way to see Russian census 1897 online?

Ella Raber

Thanks, Aaron.  Given that surnames were a new phenomenon in Eastern Europe for Jews, the fact that they had different surnames does not necessarily mean that someone made a mistake in the records.  Different surnames within a family were not uncommon.  I think you are right that “Shames” most likely signified his profession, which was the shames of the synagogue - a role distinct from that of a rabbi.  I would also add that the children took the surname “Shores,” named after their mother and Movsha’s wife’s given name, Sora.  As you can see from my surname, that surname survives to this day.

You make some good points, but I think we can discard the theory that Movsha Shames and Moshe Soloveitchik were the same person.  Moshe Soleveitchik is documented as the person who took on the Mayor of Kovno in 1782 in a trial over a Jewish expulsion order.  He is heralded in a scroll for winning that trial and obtaining damages for the victims and two-week imprisonment of the mayor.  As a result, he became the rabbi for the community in 1782.  In 1782, Movsha Shames was approximately 11 years old and would not have been this celebrated rabbi.  In 1834, Meyer Soloveitchik was listed as head of the household of Movsha Shames wife and children.  I think that represented a strong connection between Movsha Shames and Meyer Soloveitchik, who may have took on the responsibility of seeing that Movsha’s family was taken care of.  I have read that there was an exception for naming children after living relatives who were rabbis, but I don’t know that we can make that leap here, where Movsha Shames was born before Moshe Soloveitchik became a rabbi.  

l am also from the Chicago area, and I do not foresee a trip to Lithuania any time soon.  When you mention “additional rabbinic sources,” do you have anything in mind that I would be able to access from here?

Thank you for the time you put into this.  I am new to this discussion group, so I was a little hesitant to make my question overly long when I first posted, and I was not sure that every detail was necessary to answer the question.  I will take the suggestion about including specific information.  With this post, I think you and everyone have all of the pertinent facts that I know at this time.

Perry

Hi Nicholas, 
To search for Births Marriages and Deaths in the UK, first do a search on the following free website www.freebmd.org.uk 

To order certificates you should only use the UK's General Register Office at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
Once you have registered you can use the search for Births before 1916 which will indicate the mothers family name before marriage,
this website is the only website that I would recommend that you order certificates from.

You will need to search for Boyarsky in the 1911 Census for England & Wales, be aware that when the Government Official recording the
Census wrote down what he thought he heard the name was, you should also search the similar name of"Boyarsk" note no "Y" on the end.

I would suggest that you join the facebook page for the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain.

If you need any advice in UK research you can put messages on the facebook page of the JGS of Great Britain, or contact me!

Best regards,

Michael Hoffman