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Jewish Schools in 1880’s in Manchester #unitedkingdom

bermanfm@...
 

My great uncle David Isaacs writes in his diaries that he and his siblings attended St. Luke’s Primary School in Cheetham, North Manchester in 1888. He also mentions attending the Jews School in Cheetham, North  Manchester In 1891. Does anyone have information about these schools or can tell me if there are any records of attendance at these schools? Thank you
Kathryn Berman, Jerusalem
researching: Lipkin, Zagare. Lichtenstein, kercerovce, (now Slovakia) . Isaacs, Leeuwarden. Isaacs, Manchester. Levy, Falmouth, Cornwall.


 


Re: What would be a full set of naturalization records in NYC from the 1850's? #records

Steve Stein
 

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 01:26 PM, Barbara Ellman wrote:
"6 pages on what a great guy he was without any genealogical information"
Barbara,

For those of us who have more than one SOB relative, "what a great guy he was" could be considered genealogical information.

Steve Stein


Re: One Thousand Years Ago and Genetic Defects? #dna

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

The defective gene is not inherited by all Eastern European Jews, but those who have it have the same mutation. This is the same situation with Tay-Sachs Disease and Stanley Diamond's family's thalassemia, and some other blood diseases. Someone long ago had a mutation, randomly, most likely, and it is now common among Eastern European Jews.

The same thing happens in other peoples, with Cystic Fibrosis more common in the English, and some other blood diseases, but Jews are very inbred, ours are very obvious.

There are several Paget's Diseases, my grandfather had Paget's disease of the bone, which is not a cancer; I only mention it because Dr. Paget discovered several diseases.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: One Thousand Years Ago and Genetic Defects? #dna

Adam Turner
 

https://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/ashkenazi-brca-status-and-bc-outcomes seems like a reasonable starting point.

It should be noted that what you've communicated about your conversation with your doctor appears to be a rather muddled version of the facts:

  • there is no single "defective gene for breast cancer." Breast cancer is a number of different diseases which have a multitude of different causes, and only a small minority of breast cancer cases are attributable to genetics. Your doctor was probably referring to tumors that result from having a bad copy of the BRCA1/BRCA2 tumor suppressor genes, which are indeed attributable to genetics and are disproportionately prevalent in Ashkenazi Jews, but there are other genes (p53 and several others) which also have been found to cause breast cancer.
  • Ashkenazi Jews are nowhere close to 10% of all global breast cancer diagnoses. There are about 2.1 million breast cancer diagnoses per year globally, and I am pretty confident that there are not 210,000 diagnoses per year among the 5 million or so Ashkenazi women in the world. Maybe they are 10% of all diagnoses among the small subset of breast cancer diagnoses associated with BRCA1/BRCA2 mutations, although I am inclined to doubt this also, and I'm too lazy to try and hunt down the exact numbers right now. I suspect that your doctor might have been referring to a different statistic with the "10%" figure: Out of all the breast cancer diagnoses per year among Ashkenazi Jewish women, about 10% of those are attributable to BRCA1/BRCA2 mutations.
  • BRCA1/BRCA2 mutations were not inherited by all Ashkenazi Jews. Only about 1 in 40 Jewish women have a mutation in one of these genes.
  • Ashkenazi Jews are not the only population with BRCA1/BRCA2 mutations, but the reason for this is not "some non-Jewish person a thousand years ago was the first human being on Earth to have the mutation, and then they or one of their descendants converted to Judaism, resulting in both Jews and non-Jews being susceptible." Rather, there were dozens of different (though still rare) mutation events affecting the same BRCA1/BRCA2 genes that occurred at various times to people of a whole bunch of different ethnicities, and it's simply that for a variety of reasons (chiefly, that Ashkenazi Jews were a small and historically insular population), the single mutation that occurred in an Ashkenazi person centuries ago has been unfortunately conserved among Jews to a degree that other mutations to the same genes have generally not been when they occurred in people of other ethnicities. There is a chart of all the different identified mutations to BRCA1/BRCA2 that have been associated with people of dozens of different ethnicities: Dutch, Japanese, American Indians, etc. at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRCA1
Adam Turner


Re: New JewishGen Partnership with USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® #JewishGenUpdates

Phil Karlin
 

This is great news. The USC Shoah Foundation Archive is wonderful. It's a great resource. 

I've been trying to get in to a local partner to view one of the interviews that are not online. Covid is preventing for now.

Phil Karlin


Re: ViewMate translation request - Polish/Russian? #translation

shamue@...
 

It is Russian not Polish
Tzvi SHACHAM


Re: Need translation of postcard German #translation

nick@...
 

Dear Feigie Teichman
Although I am not German [but Dutch-born] I could translate this card for you. It does not give any info on conditions at Michalovce or the camp. Did Arthur write to "Martusch"? He seems very fond of her. He seems to think that she is still in Michalovce.
Since I have to reply privately, please respond, unless you already have a better translation offer from a German-born person.
Kind regards, Nick Lambrechtsen


Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian #translation

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

 

#2

Состоялось в посаде Вышков 11-го (24-го) января 1911 года в 10 часов утра. Явились Ицек Бронштейн (професия не ясно), 54-х лет и Ицек Цимбаль, религиозный учитель, 52-х лет, живущие в  посаде Вышков и объявили, что вчера, в 4 часа утра,  умерла Рейза-Рухля Дыбнер, 70-и лет от роду, дочь Мошки-Герша и Песи, урожденной неизвестно, жительницы деревни Сувин, оставив после себя овдовевшего мужа Ицека . По настоящему удостоверяю о кончине Рейзы-Рухли Дыбнер.  Акт сей присутствующим прочитан и ими подписан.

 

Содержащий акты гражданского состояния Подпись

 Подпись Подпись

 

Translate into English:

 

# 2

 

It took place in the settlement of Vyshkov on January 11 (24), 1911 at 10 am.  Itsek Bronstein (the profession is not clear), 54 years old, and Itsek Tsimbal, a religious teacher, 52 years old, living in the settlement of Vyshkov, appeared and announced that yesterday, at 4 o'clock in the morning, had died Reiza-Ruhla Dybner, 70 years old, daughter of Moshka-Gersh and Pesya, born unknown, a resident of the village of Suvin, leaving behind her widowed husband Itsek. I truly certify the death of Reiza-Rukhla Dybner. This act was read and signed by those present.

 

 

 

Containing acts of civil status Signature

 

 Signature Signature


Translated by Michael Ryabinky


Cannot find my G Grandfather #unitedkingdom

Peter Bush
 

My G Grandfather Maurice Cooper (originally Mozes Wolf Kupfer from Kalisz, Poland) was married in Liverpool in 1886. For the last 35 years I have been trying to find a record of his death and his burial, without success.
He was living in Sheffield in 1911-1912 and is mentioned as next of kin on my Grandfather's war records.
My G Grandmother seems to be living alone in London in 1916 and I feel that Maurice died in 1915-1916, but do not know where.
I have checked all the usual resources. Can anyone suggest anything else?
Many thanks,
Peter Bush, London plbush1@... 


Re: ViewMate translation request - Polish/Russian? #translation

ryabinkym@...
 

In Russian:

 

19

Состоялось в посаде Рационж 3-го (16-го) июля 1905 года в 10 часов утра. Явились Ионас Липинский, 46-и лет и Абрам Кжечановский, 64-х лет, оба торговцы в посаде Рационж и объявили, что вчера,  в посаде Рационж, в 4 часа утра,  умерла Сура Нейман, 15-и лет от роду, дочь Хаима-Шулима и Ханы, урожденной Гольдберг. По настоящему удостоверяю о кончине Суры Нейман.  Акт сей присутствующим прочитан и ими подписан.

 

Содержащий акты гражданского состояния Подпись

 Подпись Подпись

 

Translated into English:

 

19

It took place in the settlement of Rationzh on July 3 (16), 1905 at 10 am. Ionas Lipinsky, 46 years old, and Abram Kzhechanovsky, 64 years old, both merchants in the village of Ratsionzh, appeared and announced that yesterday, in the village of Ratsionzh, at 4 o'clock in the morning, had died Sura Neiman, 15 years old, the daughter of Khaim-Shulim and Hana, née Goldberg. I truly certify the death of Sura Neiman. This act was read and signed by those present.

 

Containing acts of civil status Signature

  Signature Signature


Translated by Michael Ryabinky


issues of DNA privacy #dna

Judy Petersen
 

Hello,
    I would like it if someone could address issues of DNA privacy.  I have relatives who refuse to test for various reasons, all involving some aspect of privacy.  I can give them an answer as to why testing is important from a genealogical standpoint, but I can't give them good answers as to how their privacy is safeguarded.  They read lots of articles from non-genealogy sources as to how dangerous it is to have your DNA floating around "out there" and I don't know how to refute them.
     Or....is this a legitimate issue that is not currently being addressed sufficiently by the genealogical community?
     Thank you!
 
               Judy Petersen
               Colorado
 


Re: New JewishGen Partnership with USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® #JewishGenUpdates

webseb
 

Dear Avraham,


It's a great news but can you please tell me when will that be effective?

When I get on the USC website to look at athe testimony of my aunt, it still says that : 

This testimony video is not viewable in the Visual History Archive Online. Testimony videos not viewable in the VHA Online can be viewed onsite at many institutions around the world.
Find an access site near you, where all testimony videos can be viewed.

But the link does not work, I have sent a message to them to ask where I could watch this but I had no answer.


Thanks for your help,


Best regards,
Sébastien TORIO
Paris, France


Le jeudi 24 septembre 2020 à 00:46:00 UTC+2, Avraham Groll <agroll@...> a écrit :


Dear JewishGen Community,


We are pleased to announce a partnership between JewishGen.org and USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® (VHA) whereby an index of data from nearly 50,000 Jewish Holocaust survivor testimonies found in USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive will be accessible via JewishGen.


The biographical data is discoverable via more than 250,000 possible names and aliases — which in turn contain information on more than 600,000 additional relatives identified in survivor questionnaires. Data provided in the interviews contains potentially valuable sources of genealogical and family information, with details that can include: Name, Place of Birth, Date of Birth, Relationship to Interviewee, If individual survived the Holocaust, Place of Death, and Date of Death.


All individuals listed in the database link back to USC Shoah Foundation's Visual History Archive portal. More than 4,000 of these interviews are viewable in video format via the internet, while the remaining links lead to biographical pages that may contain slideshows of photos, maps, or additional information essential to those searching for relatives, tracing their lineage, or studying the Holocaust.


Thank you to E. Randol Schoenberg (Director of Austria-Czech Research) and Logan Kleinwaks (Director of Danzig Research) for all of their assistance in adding this data to our collection. Finally, thank you to everyone at the USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® (VHA) who has worked so hard collecting the testimonies over many years, extracting the genealogical data, and for making this incredibly valuable information accessible to the thousands of JewishGen researchers who visit our site each day.


This collection can be searched via the JewishGen Holocaust Database (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/) or via the JewishGen Unified Search (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/all/).


Wishing everyone much success in researching this meaningful collection.


Avraham Groll

Executive Director

JewishGen.org


Please support our Yom Kippur Appeal - Every Gift Will Make a Real Difference: http://bit.ly/JGYomKippurAppeal2020


Re: Request translation of extract from family register #germany #translation

Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar)
 

Hello Diane,

in order to correctly transcribe the text it would be helpful to provide the whole document - as transcribing often includes comparing letters. Also posting this in ViewMate would be better, as any translation will be revised or discussed by fellow researches.
I'm not absolutely sure as the context is missing:

Soll seit 1846 an Carl Schiff, Schreiner zu New York verheirathet sein

Is said to be married to Carl Schiff, carpenter in NY

Regards from Germany

Corinna (Wöhrl, nee Goslar), Hoisdorf near Hamburg


Re: SCHIFF family in Hildesheim, Hanover #germany #general

Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar)
 

Dear Diane and fellow researches,

for Hildesheim quite a few historical documents are to accessible online via FamilySearch, yet they are not indexed and mosty written in German Script (Kurrent). Often the images are of poor quality due to the bad condition of the originals. I listed the film-numbers as I don't know, if my links will work outside of Germany, but I'll give it a try:

Emigration from Hildesheim
Film 2063760 / DGS 008104033
Film 2063759 / DGS 008104034
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJL-ZV27?i=4&cat=652655

Hildesheim Census
Volkszählungen, 1809-1864 div. films (DGS)
7996100
8139071
8139072
8139073
8104033
8104034

Jewish Community of Hildesheim 1809-1815 (Napoleonic Aera in Northern Germany)
DGS 007954696beginning on picture 844 of 1364
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8H-89ZP-D?cat=652485

If you are searching for documents of Jewish Communities in Germany give this website a try:
https://fs.webosi.net/
-> In the field (Globale Suche) you enter the name of the town
-> the documents of the Jewish communities  available are often labeled (Jüdische) Matrikel

I know it may be difficult, but you should give it a try. Good luck hunting!

Corinna (Wöhrl, née Goslar), Hoisdorf, Germany

 


Re: Request translation of extract from family register #germany #translation

Ernst-Peter Winter <e.p.winter@...>
 

2. soll seit 1846 an Carl chiff, Schreiner zu New York
verheiratet sein
2. told to be married to Carl Schiff, carpenter
(cabinetmaker) at New York, since 1846

Ernst-Peter Winter


Zoom events at the Holocaust Education and Learning Centre at the University of Huddersfield #announcements #events #holocaust

Michael Sharp
 

The Holocaust Education and Learning Centre at the University of Huddersfield has relaunched its events programme in a covid-secure form using Zoom. Details can be found at https://holocaustlearning.org.uk/events/

All zoom events are free but must be booked in advance.

The first event is on Thursday 1st October and is a conversation between survivor Rudi Leavor and Dame Louise Ellman on past and current experiences of antisemitism. Louise Ellman is one of the former members of the UK parliament who was vilified by anti-semites when the party was being led by Jeremy Corbyn

Future events include presentations on the Arolsen archives, the USHMM collection, the role of bureaucrats in the Nazi crimes, antisemitism and The Russian revolution, and Jewish refugees in Shanghai and in the Dominican Republic.

To book, click on the button for the event concerned and enter your details. A zoom link will be sent out approx. 2 days before each event. Please note the advertised times are London time.


Michael Sharp


Re: Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna

Harvey Kaplan
 

There have been Jewish communities in Scotland for over 200 years, reaching a peak of around 20,000 in the 1930s-1950s.  Today, there are an estimated 5-6,000, with formal communities in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and St Andrews/Tayside.

At the time of mass emigration from Europe to the USA in the late 19th/early 20th century, many thousands of Jews transmigrated through Britain.  There was a sophisticated system whereby agents in Eastern Europe sold tickets covering each leg of the journey. This included sailing from eg Libau to maybe Hull, Grimsby or Leith, then travelling by train across to the major ports of Liverpool or Glasgow.  From there, they would board a ship to the USA or wherever.  Many immigrants came to Britain - including Scotland - and stayed here for months or years, then decided to try their luck in the USA, South Africa, Canada, Australia etc.

There's a common immigrant story that unscrupulous crews told the passengers disembarking at the east coast ports in England/Scotland that they had already reached America - but this is now contested by academic research and is mostly an immigration myth.

Harvey Kaplan
Dirrector
Scottish Jewish Archives Centre

     

On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 15:11, sjgwed via groups.jewishgen.org <sjgwed=aol.com@...> wrote:
Maybe 25 years ago, I met a bunch of Scots at a resort in the Caribbean, and they said they were Jews. Apparently, in the late 19th c. when their ancestors from eastern Europe left a European departure point for the US, their boat made a quick stop at a dock in Britain to pick up more passengers. Thinking they had arrived in the US, some Jews disembarked... and stayed!

Susan J Gordon
New York
ZBARAZ - Bialazurker
SKALAT - Schoenhaut, Lempert


Re: A new "names" database? #names

David Lewin
 

Please would Harvey Kaplan use the program and send me a list of all researchers who study the name WEINSTEIN ( or have that name themselves)

David Lewin



At 15:30 23/09/2020, rv Kaplan via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
But why duplicate a database which is already providing this function?

Harvey Kaplan



Re: New JewishGen Partnership with USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® #JewishGenUpdates

David Selig
 

Dear Mr Groll

I have been using JewishGen for about three years, and on a personal note, a huge thank you to yourself and all there.
I live in Paris, where my grandmother lived before during (for some) and many years after the war.   She and her husband survived, but her two sisters and families were deported and murdered, from Paris and from Holland.
On the other side an aunt of mine was killed (from Berlin) etc...
I have only recently discovered the existence of these people, and without Jewish Gen would never have been able to.

Last week I also found for the first tiem the VHA and a testimony of a close family friend...  so moving and great that that exists.   I have had personal exchange with Peter Landé, though your site.

Thank you wholeheartedly, and very best wishes in these so troubled times
David Selig


On 24/09/2020 00:45, Avraham Groll wrote:

Dear JewishGen Community,


We are pleased to announce a partnership between JewishGen.org and USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® (VHA) whereby an index of data from nearly 50,000 Jewish Holocaust survivor testimonies found in USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive will be accessible via JewishGen.


The biographical data is discoverable via more than 250,000 possible names and aliases — which in turn contain information on more than 600,000 additional relatives identified in survivor questionnaires. Data provided in the interviews contains potentially valuable sources of genealogical and family information, with details that can include: Name, Place of Birth, Date of Birth, Relationship to Interviewee, If individual survived the Holocaust, Place of Death, and Date of Death.


All individuals listed in the database link back to USC Shoah Foundation's Visual History Archive portal. More than 4,000 of these interviews are viewable in video format via the internet, while the remaining links lead to biographical pages that may contain slideshows of photos, maps, or additional information essential to those searching for relatives, tracing their lineage, or studying the Holocaust.


Thank you to E. Randol Schoenberg (Director of Austria-Czech Research) and Logan Kleinwaks (Director of Danzig Research) for all of their assistance in adding this data to our collection. Finally, thank you to everyone at the USC Shoah Foundation’s Visual History Archive® (VHA) who has worked so hard collecting the testimonies over many years, extracting the genealogical data, and for making this incredibly valuable information accessible to the thousands of JewishGen researchers who visit our site each day.


This collection can be searched via the JewishGen Holocaust Database (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/) or via the JewishGen Unified Search (https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/all/).


Wishing everyone much success in researching this meaningful collection.


Avraham Groll

Executive Director

JewishGen.org


Please support our Yom Kippur Appeal - Every Gift Will Make a Real Difference: http://bit.ly/JGYomKippurAppeal2020


Re: One Thousand Years Ago and Genetic Defects? #dna

Kenneth Ryesky
 

Does not necessarily have to be a convert to Judaism.  Could be a mutation in a Jewish person, with descendants who attritioned out from the Jewish people, or could be a rapacious crusader.
--
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...