Re: Use of "ben Avraham" on a headstone #general


Hello Jeff,

My sense is that it is inappropriate and I suggest the inclusion of some Hebrew writing and/or star of David to indicate that the deceased was Jewish.  Shalom, Malka Chosnek



Re: Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna

Kenneth Ryesky

Many Jews in Spain and Portugal assimilated into the population following the Inquisition and expulsion.  I have seen estimates that one-fourth of the Spanish population has Jewish ancestry.
Approximately a century following the expulsion from Spain, the Spanish Armada had its (mis)adventures in Ireland.
Through such dynamics, there no doubt is Jewish DNA to be found amongst today's Irish population.
-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL

Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Re: Find Address - 30 Osborn, Brooklyn NY #usa

David Oseas

If you can't find an address/street combination in a census, always remember to check for street name changes/renumbering.  Osborne Ave in Brooklyn became Ocean Ave (see: )

David Oseas

Re: JewishGen Adds New Holocaust Database #JewishGenUpdates

Nancy Siegel

Thank you, Tony. The records that were recently added to JewishGen’s Holocaust Database, as reported earlier by Nolan Altman, concern Revoked Citizenship and Property Seizures 1933-1945. 

To learn more about these records, go to:

To access the main Holocaust Database, go to:

Nancy Siegel
Director of Communications
(San Francisco, CA)

Re: Shabbos meals #belarus

Chana Bonn

We often had fish, i.e., milchig, on Friday nights because there was always fresh fish from the fish monger who came around the neighborhood to provide our many Catholic neighbors with fresh fish on Fridays.  My cousin, who lived in a different neighborhood, complained!! to his mother that Friday night dinner was always the same--soup and chicken!  

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names


your arguments are wonderful, but like the little old lady said in the fast food ad, "show me the beef".
please provide us with just one single properly documented case, out of all the millions of immigrants who landed at ellis island, where an american official changed the immigrant's name.  it shouldn't be difficult.
....... tom klein, toronto
At 3:07 -0700 19/7/20, main@... wrote:

Re: "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names
From: YaleZuss@...
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 23:56:48 EDT
Karen Silver and Philip Trauring, who writes the blog where Avivah Pinski found another claim against involuntary name changes (,
your ancestors, you don't discard anything they tell you unless and until you have actual proof that what they told you is wrong. NINC appears to have originated to motivate the wholesale discarding of family narratives, which would destroy whatever data they include; it's conceptually not that different from burning down an archive.
Yale Zussman

Re: Let's Introduce Ourselves #bessarabia

Pablo Libedinsky

Sorry but the I've never seen the name Goichberg in my research.
It doesn't seem to be related to Chamudis, or any of its variations.

Re: Shabbos meals #belarus


 I grew up in a small town in south Texas (and still live in that area but in San Antonio) which was and is heavily Catholic and school lunches on Friday were never meat.

Herschel Sheiness

Re: Shabbos meals #belarus

Roberta Schoen

I have heard that in France they have milchog on Shabbos since Catholics have no meat on Fridays and they didn’t want to offend them/stand out.  


Re: Weinstock from Hungary #general #hungary #slovakia


I'm not certain that the man on the 1869 census in Tokaj ( and the man who died in Nagyvárad are the same person: the census definitely gives "N. Géres" as his birthplace, while the death record is transcribed as saying Szentes for the birthplace. 1906 is nearly a decade after the great official placename-disambiguation project in Hungary, so by then, unmodified "Szentes" meant only the town in Csongrád county, in southern Hungary; for the place in Zemplén county, you had to specify "Bodrogszentes". This would've been especially important in a register entry in a different county, but of course, the registrar could simply have gotten it wrong (because he didn't know to ask the right questions).

You probably already have this, but... Birth of Moricz Weinstock on 23 June 1869, line 14:

Marriage of Jonas and Rozalia in Sátoraljaújhely (18 June 1861) also has Nagygéres as his birthplace (entry number 195):

Unfortunately, it looks like FamilySearch does not have Jewish records for Királyhelmecz (where both Nagygéres and Bodrogszentes were supposedly recorded).

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Re: Shabbos meals #belarus.


With a nod to my friend of our youth, as far as I know the Dutch custom was, and often still is, to eat Milky at the Shabbos morning meal, but Friday night was meaty

Re: IAJGS Conference Announcement #jgs-iajgs #education #events #announcements

Tony Hausner

Thanks for the reply. When will they be available to view. Now, when the conference starts, or a different timeframe.  And how to acces. Will there be a link on that page.  

Re: Let's Introduce Ourselves #bessarabia

Pablo Libedinsky

I have not checked the Romania (Bessarabia) database but I will.
I only have a couple of first names but I'll include them later.

I'll be very happy to help anyone if I can.

Thank you.

Seeking Neuberger who disappeared in Yugoslavia in 1945 #hungary #general

R. Reuven K. Koffler

Hi JewishGenners, 

I am trying to track down every bit of information about: 

Friedrich, Frigyes (Fritz) Neuberger de Hlinik .
Friedrich was born in Pelsoz (then in the Austro- Hungarian Empire) in 1891.
Was a decorated officer in the Austro- Hungarian army in WWI, 
Lived in Zagreb,Croatia, exported wood from the port town of Rijeka, then Susak / Fiume, and from Trieste.
Friedrich disappeared in Communist Yugoslavia, after the end of the war, in 1945.   

I would deeply appreciate any idea about what resources may be available to find a clue to the enigma. 

Many thanks in advance and best wishes.

Reuven Koffler, Jerusalem. 

Re: Lost family in Ukraine-a dead end #ukraine

Gary Pokrassa

I have very good news Stanley - there are a number of records from Belaya Tserkov which have been recently processed and are in the queue for uploading to the database including 1875 revision list and metric records ranging from 1852-1898 but these are sporadic and only about 1/3 of the years are presented;  please be just a bit patient and they should be available

Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division

Using DNA matches to find Jewish ancestors #dna

Jesse Springer <Jessemspringer@...>

Hoping someone with experience finding elusive Jewish ancestors based on DNA matches can help...

My dad didn't know he had Jewish ancestry until taking a MyHeritage DNA test and receiving his report that estimates he is ~19% Ashkenazi and ~11.5% West Asian (the remaining ethnicity percentages are English & Irish/Scottish, which we anticipated but expected to total nearly 100% combined).

Anyways...the West Asian DNA is also assumed to be from a Jewish ancestor because when we filter his genetic matches to show only those with West Asian results, the first match is named Avi Cohen, and the name of another is written in Hebrew and lives in Israel.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these percentages seem to suggests that at least 1 of his grandparents was of nearly 100% Jewish ancestry. This is a complete mystery to us, as for several generations his family identified as Irish, English & Scottish (his report attested that this is indeed the case, just not to the extend he anticipated), and we have the documents that show the births of his known ancestors in Ireland and England, as well as their immigration to the USA.

Using MorleyDNA and YFull software, my father's haplogroup is predicted to be Q-M378. From what I've researched, the majority of Irish males belong to the R haplogroup (his paternal line all identified as Irish, while his maternal line was mostly English & some Scottish). My dad's surname is HALLORAN (originally O'HALLORAN when his paternal great-grandfather lived in Ireland; he changed it to Halloran upon immigration to USA). There's a Y-DNA haplogroup project at FTDNA for males with surname Halloran/O'Halloran, and sure enough, the ones so far who have contributed to the project consistently test as R haplogroup, which is not surprising considering that's the haplogroup of most Irish men.

From what I've read, haplogroup Q-M378 is fairly common in Ashkenazi and also West Asian males. So in light of this, we've concluded that his Ashkenazi/West Asian ancestry was on his paternal side. This certainly helps narrow things down, but still leaves us scratching our heads because of the Halloran surname and several generations of Irish Catholic idenity without a hint of Jewish ancestry. We know my dad wasn't adopted, as he looks just like his father, and although his brother doesn't look much him, his brother's son looks almost like he and my dad could be twins. We are fairly certain his father wasn't adopted because he closely resembles his 9 siblings (I don't have a picture of his parents to compare but I'm assuming there's just no way they adopted 9 children who all looked alike). One possibility is that my grandfather's dad was adopted. But this also seems unlikely since we have his birth certificate and nothing hints at adoption, so it leaves me wondering if an extramarital affair took place and that's why his paternal haplogroup deviates from the typical R haplogroup of Irish/Halloran males. If this is what happened, it seems unlikely to ever find out who the real father was... but I am hoping that one day the truth can be found and my father can know more about his genetic ancestors.

Thanks so much in advance for your time and helpful suggestions! I apologize for such a long post! 🤭

Use of "ben Avraham" on a headstone #general

Jeff Lieberman

If the family of a deceased (nonobservant) Jewish man doesn't know the name of his parents, how would his name be shown on his headstone? Would "ben Avraham" be used to signify that he was Jewish, e.g., Shalom ben Avraham?
Jeff Lieberman

Re: Definition of a family name BARIOT #names


Well, good question. The general answer is that you are writing a Jewish Russian family name in English using common English characters. The original name sounded something like that with k's and ch and z and so on. The ancestors could not read or write their own name or anything else actually. So scribes wrote it for them if they needed a permission slip to leave or other documents. When they got to Ellis Island another scribe wrote something down that sounded right to him. He probably came from Russia himself. So you can't look up Bariot anywhere back in the old country, especially in Minsk, where a very large population of Jews lived.

Seeking info about MEYER LEVIN (Born Danzig +/- 1789), see advertisement and PERLBACHs #unitedkingdom #germany


Meyer LEVIN left Danzig before the rest of the family adopted the name of PERLBACH. He went to London.
I am trying to find the link with Jacob LEVIN (resided in London, later on in Cape Town as a Cape merchant, then returned to London where he died)) as well as with my great-grandmother Clara LEVIN, widow of Samuel BERNARD, niece or cousin of Jacob.
Ron Peeters 
Ulvenhout (NL)

Re: Name variants for Ovsey/Yehoshua Fuchs/Fuks? #names #dna #usa

Alex Fuchs

There was a question about Ovsey name.

"Ovsey" is a common Russian variant for Yehoshua