Re: The female Yiddish name Losche in the US? #names


As you know, anyone can choose any English name, whether or not it "corresponds" to their birth name.  However she might choose an English name beginning with the letter L.  For example, Louise, Louisa, Lettie, Lottie, Linda, Laura, etc. 

Joel Ackerman, Jerusalem, Israel (formerly from the San Francisco Bay Area)
Researching HACKMEYSTER, ACKMEYSTER, GAKMAJSTERA, ZIMMERMAN, CIMERMAN, CYMERMAN from Radzivilov, Demidovka and Berestechko (Volhynia, Ukraine) and Shereshevo (Belarus)
ISMAN, BLAU (Przemysl, Poland)

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #ukraine

Bruce Drake

Those of you versed in the practices and protocols of a respectable marriage in the shtetls of Eastern Europe also know that the path to the wedding involved more than a quick trip to City Hall or a visit to the Elvis Chapel in Las Vegas. “Weddings in Our Areas” from the Yizkor book of Mezhirichi, Ukraine methodically and in great detail lays out “the foreshpiel (foreplay)” that began on a Sunday before a Saturday celebration. On Sunday there was the viewing of the dowry trunk. On Monday, the gathering of the groom’s friends to tell stories and partake of refreshments like herring fish and wine. Tuesday was the poor man's day when people from all over the region showed up and received alms from the bride’s father. The aunts arrived on Wednesday. On Thursday, the out-of-town quests started arriving. The "chuppah" (wedding ceremony) was always held on Friday. And finally, the big celebration on Saturday night. 

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD 

Re: Online trees #general

Max Heffler

Ah, that is my problem with Ancestry and MyHeritage – “billions and billions” of siloed trees with imperfections and the benefit with a One World Tree like geni, a single tree of humanity with curators to continue to make it progressively more-correct - much like open-source collaboration makes source code less buggy and more secure…


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Subject: Re: [] Online trees #general


I have found that putting it on ancestry is much better because it remains yours and no one can change it. In geni it’s a public mishmash as you have found, and anyone can add to it or remove things and change it up




Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project:

Re: Silverman Family of Providence #usa


I am originally from Providence and my sister married into a Silverman family.  So many Silverman's in Providence.  In addition, my fathers family has a Silverman coming out of Latvia.  I believe in casting a wide net and see what comes up in regarding to a close relationship.  Do you have any DNA date that could assist in any research?  My direct contact information is:

Charlie Newman

Re: Austria will Allow Descendants of Holocaust Victims to Receive Citizenship Beginning September 1st #holocaust


I was told that indeed all direct descendants - including certainly grandchildren.  I didn't ask abou great grandchildren, but I don't see why they would exclude them.

Re: Belarus Meeting at the IAJGS Conference #belarus #announcements

Nancy Siegel

In Reply to:
 The annual Belarus meeting will be held at 2:45 pm (EDT) on Monday, August 10.  The conference is virtual this year but you will still need to register for the conference to get a link to the meeting.”

To register for the IAJGS Virtual Conference, go to: 
There is no charge to attend the Belarus meeting or other JewishGen Meetings being held during the conference. 

Nancy Siegel 
San Francisco, CA

Re: Austria will Allow Descendants of Holocaust Victims to Receive Citizenship Beginning September 1st #holocaust

Diane Jacobs

I know someone who got a foreign passport because she didn't want to travel with a US passport due to terrorism.

Diane Jacobs 

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Subject: Re: [] Austria will Allow Descendants of Holocaust Victims to Receive Citizenship Beginning September 1st #austria #holocaust

This might be a silly question but I’m curious. I’ve several instances where Jews can apply for foreign citizenship while retaining US citizenship. My question is what would be the benefit of having a foreign citizenship?  Taxes?  Foreign Travel?


Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

Re: Finding The Correct Record #general

Alan Shuchat

I answered exactly this kind of question the other day, with step-by-step instructions. You can find the question and my answer at messages 
Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

Encyclopédie des changements de noms #france #names

Rony Golan

Dear All,

I am looking for the two volumes of the Encyclopédie des changements de noms by Emmanuel Ratier. It was most probably published in 1995.
If you have access to it, please contact me privately.

Thank you & Shabbat Shalom,
Rony Golan
Ramat HaSharon, Israel

                        EISDORFER, Hungary
                        SLOMOVITS, Sighet, Romania

Re: Photo Vienna Jewish Cemetery Gate 4 #austria-czech #photographs


if you go on the FINDAGRAVE  website. You can make a request, they have many people that will do that, I made a request once and someone did it in a couple of days.
my great great grandfather is there.



Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general


Ozer and Ezra are not the same name but you are correct that they derive from the same word meaning help and that they have no connection to the name Asher. The most well known use of the name Ozer that comes to mind was a Rabbi Chaim Ozer Grodzinski who died in Vilnius in 1940.

Re: Given name SOSCHE #names


More possible her name Shoshe.  My grandmother's name Shime-Shoshe

Re: My Heritage - Theory of Family Relativity #general

Jeffrey Herrmann

The only reason I signed up for MyHeritage several years ago was the marketing hype about their new Theory of Family Relativity.   I waited and waited and finally after a year or two I was notified about one Theory of Family Relativity generated by their super-duper algorithm.  It said I might be related to a third cousin I had known about for years and had myself posted to my tree on MyHeritage at least a year before their algorithm discovered her.  I haven't received another Theory from MyHeritage since.   
They talk a good game at MyHeritage about the wondrous things their computers can do with their vast data, but for me at least they perpetually underdeliver.

Re: Austria will Allow Descendants of Holocaust Victims to Receive Citizenship Beginning September 1st #holocaust

Veronica Zundel

From a UK viewpoint, this will mean that I can retain much-valued EU citizenship when Britain leaves the EU fully at the end of the year. As we also have substantial savings and investments in Vienna (the remainder of my parents' compensatory pensions from the Austrian government) it may also remove a layer of bureacracy, or even some charges, from the bank.

Re: Data Breach at GEDmatch has Concerns Over Privacy #dna #announcements


Good example why you should think twice of using your DNA for genealogy. I prefer to stick to the traditional ways of research.

Privacy Issues for Federal Judges #usa #records

Kenneth Ryesky

When I submitted my comments to the old JewishGen discussion groups regarding the 2 February 2012 House Ways & Means Committee hearing on the Social Security Death Master File (specifically, the Agin testimony), one SIG administrator rejected my comment as irrelevant.  Fortunately, Jan Meisels Allen was a subscriber on one SIG discussion group where the posting went through.


As a result of that W&M hearing, significant embargoes were placed on the Death Master File (known commercially as the Social Security Death Index); some intense lobbying, including a lobbying entourage on Capitol Hill in which I participated, succeeded in controlling the worst of the damage (the initial legislation would have totally padlocked the DMF/SSDI).


I trust that we in the genealogy community have learned our lesson.


Here is one that may well pop up in some future form:


-- Ken Ryesky

Petach Tikva, ISRAEL


Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@...

Ancestry purchased by Blacksone #announcements

Lee Jaffe

Blackstone Group is Buying Ancestry for $4.7B
By Luisa Beltran
Aug. 5, 2020 4:41 pm ET
Blackstone Group will become the latest private-equity firm to own Ancestry, a provider of digital family history services.
Blackstone (ticker: BX) said Wednesday it was buying Ancestry in a deal valued at $4.7 billion. Blackstone will have roughly 75% of Ancestry, while GIC—the sovereign-wealth fund once known as the Government of Singapore Investment Corp.—will have 25%, Barron’s has learned. Bank of America (BAC) and Credit Suisse are providing debt financing.
Blackstone has committed to invest more than $2 billion equity in Ancestry. About quarter of that, or $400 million to $500 million, will come from GIC, Barron’s has learned.
Ancestry uses information found in historical records and family trees to help its more than 3 million subscribers discover their family history. The company also uses DNA tests to give users more data about their family tree and recent genetic ethnicity. The Lehi, Utah, company operates in more than 30 countries. It produces over $1 billion in annual revenue.
Founded in the 1980s, Ancestry still has lots of room to grow. The company, under Blackstone, will expand its focus beyond its core audience to include a younger and more diverse population, Barron’s has learned.
“Our entire leadership team is thrilled to have the opportunity to partner with Blackstone to further accelerate Ancestry’s global leadership in family history and consumer genomics,” said Margo Georgiadis, Ancestry’s president and CEO, in a statement.
Ancestry, which considered an initial public offering in 2019, went up for sale earlier this summer. Final bids for Ancestry were due this Friday, Aug. 7, but Blackstone put its offer in last week, Barron’s has learned. Morgan Stanley (MS) ran the process.
“This is a company that we’ve coveted for a long time. We’re thrilled to have won the asset,” David Kestnbaum, a Blackstone senior managing director, told Barron’s. “We see it as a very strong fit with our themes of focusing on high-quality digital growth businesses.” Blackstone also owns Bumble, the digital dating app, and Vungle, a mobile ad company.
The deal represents Blackstone’s first control acquisition from its eighth flagship fund that raised $26 billion last year. The pool is the largest ever in the private equity industry.
Ancestry has a long history with private equity. Spectrum Equity, a Boston growth firm, first bought a stake in Ancestry in 2003. Permira, a European private-equity firm, led a group to take Ancestry private in 2012. In 2016, Silver Lake acquired a minority. With the sale to Blackstone, Spectrum, Permira and Silver Lake are set to exit.
Silver Lake declined to comment. Executives for Spectrum and Permira didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
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Re: Austria will Allow Descendants of Holocaust Victims to Receive Citizenship Beginning September 1st #holocaust

Robert Fraser

It's not a silly question at all. I intend to apply, as I can hopefully regain the Austrian citizenship my Parents had forcibly taken from them in 1939.

Robert W Fraser, Perth, Western Australia
Researcher 6342

Re: Online trees #general

Sheryl Prenzlau

I have found that putting it on ancestry is much better because it remains yours and no one can change it. In geni it’s a public mishmash as you have found, and anyone can add to it or remove things and change it up

Re: My Heritage - Theory of Family Relativity #general

Jeffrey Cohen

In my experience My Heritage’s  “Theory of Relativity” is weak and of not much use. 23 and Me’s “Predicted Family Tree” is deeply flawed and dangerously misleading, whilst Ancestry’s “Thrulines” produces incredible results and has led me to make important discoveries. All depend on the size and quality of the your family tree but I have used the same tree for all three firms.


“Theory of Relativity” only produced a couple of results for me and they were ones where the family connection is very strong and very obvious. “Predicted Family Tree” is limited by the fact that 23 and Me is not primarily a genealogy product. But it seems incapable of distinguishing paternal from maternal predicted connections yet it presents its predictions as very definite discoveries. Then if the user does not remove their “predictions” they are, after a while, taken and set in stone in the list of user matches. I was initially reluctant to delete their predictions that didn’t show people I could identify in case I later discover who they are but then it makes it look as if I have accepted their predictions as true. Some degree of manipulation of their prediction can be done by the user but it cannot, for example, accept marriages of cousins which further limits is accuracy.  I have discussed these issues with 23 and Me and they have not disagreed with my observations and promised improvements.


I have had amazing and significant results with Thrulines with near perfect accuracy in it producing a chart showing how I am connected to a DNA match. It has produced results from matches where the amount of common DNA is very low. I think it is all down to the way its processors analyse individual’s trees and find common information. The only instances where Thrulines has not shown perfect results is where other uses have inaccuracies in their trees. But it is a good way to be able to graphically point out to another user they have an error. There may well be situations where Thrulines might produce inaccurate information but I have not yet encountered them.