Subj: ViewMate translation request - Handwritten German

I've posted a vital record in German for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82867
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.

Rich Meyersburg
Laurel, MD

rich.meyersburg@...

I have uploaded a picture of my ggm's tombstone from Svir as Viewmate # 82731 and asked for assistance in translating.  Two people have been kind enough to respond, but they were unable to read the material at the bottom of the tombstone.  Luckily, I have the attached picture from 100 years ago which shows my ggf standing next to the stone.  Perhaps that will help.

p.s. The newer picture was downloaded from a newspaper article about 5 years ago (I think it was in Israel Today) reporting on a college student trip to fix up the cemetery.  Imagine my surprise when I saw a photograph that accompanied the article and recognized it as a picture of my ggm's tombstone.

Hi Carol,

This doesn't answer your question on what became of Daniel LEVY, but have you seen the 1902 newspaper article from The NY Evening World about Isabella Levy's will?  It lists her husband as Ernest, and names the other children.  None of those listed is named Daniel.

You can see the article by searching Isabella Levy (do an exact search) at:
www.fultonhistory.com
It is a free site.

Also, Daniel's birth is listed in the NYC birth index on 03 Jul 1861.  Parents Ernest and Isabella.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Hello,

I've posted several vital records in German for which I need
translations. They’re on ViewMate at the following address ...

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82879

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82886

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82887

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82888

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM82889

Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Thank you very much,

Bess Taylor

Udel is usually a woman's name. I  have never seen it as male, although Idel can be. I have only seen Judel, Yudel, and Iudel for Juda or Yehuda.

"While researching names related to an uncle of my late mother I bumped twice  in Familysearch.org into Udel BLASZ from Bardejov,Slovakia. Once it was identified as a male born in 1874 and next "he"

married in 1894 with Salomon FINGERHUT from Wisnicza (Nowy Wisnicz) whom I clearly located on JRI-PL. I know that Udel is a nickname of Yehuda. Any  ideaS?"

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

My great grandmother's Hebrew name was Yehudit, which was Americanized to Helen, but on her ship manifest her name was Udie. She came from Stanislawow, now IVno-Frankivsk, in Ukraine

I've seen Udel as a female name on two occasions.

Hi, a letter from circa 1895 posts the following return address: Mr. Moses Ratman, Gubernia Grodno, settlement of Sanemonskom, Jagostow Street. I am unable to find Sanemonskom. Does anyone have any ideas about other designations for this village?

Thank you,
Rafael Harpaz

Researching:
Belarus: Grodno (Ratman/Rothman, Bendeson, Ciemnolis, Farbarovitch), Brisk (Tarman), Turov (Shifman)
Poland: Bialystok/Czyzewo (Dveiras, Goldberg)

It is possible for a 13 year old to have a baby, and then get married years later, whether to the father or to someone else.

However, I would start by checking the child's age on the grave and the census to try to figure out how old she was when they traveled a few months after marrying.

I like the idea of confusing 9 years with 9 months.  However, being 9 months old just a few months after the marriage would still mean her mother was pregnant before marriage, and gave birth before the marriage.  That's unusual, because if an unplanned pregnancy occurred and the parents decided to marry, they would try to do it as quickly as possible, and certainly before the birth.  Prior to the invention of early pregnancy tests, the typical time for someone to realize she was pregnant and arrange an urgent wedding was such that the baby was typically born 6 months later.  (A particularly famous example of a child born that amount of time after his parents married was President Obama.)  If you research the history of laws on what Shabbos violations where permissible because they could save the life of a baby and what wasn't allowed because it was pointless (the baby would die anyway) or unnecessary (the baby would live anyway), there's a fascinating error: At one point, it was erroneously thought that a baby born after 7 months of pregnancy had a better chance of survival than a baby born after 8 months of pregnancy.  This makes no sense medically, but was an easy mistake if most of the babies reported to have been born after 7 months of pregnancy were really born after 9 total months of pregnancy: 2 before marriage and 7 during.

Here's a simpler explanation: a badly formed 0 can look like a 9, so maybe the age was "0", not "9".

Yes, Udel is a version of Adel.

Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director

She died, was reincarnated, and died again.  I'm kidding.  Seriously:

This may mean that her death was falsely reported when she was still alive (in 1890), perhaps either so her husband could marry someone else or so that her heirs could take her assets.  And then reported a second time when she really did die (in 1901).

Or that the first report (in 1890) is true and then one of her heirs falsely reported that she was a widow who died later (in 1901) so that they could "inherit" the property of the man reported to her husband.

Or there could be a legitimate explanation.

"I have a first cousin, Arlene,  who married our mutual first cousin. Her parents, Bernard and Esther, were also first cousins. Bernard's parents were also first cousins. And I suspect that one of his parents was also the result of a cousin marriage."

Arlene is the explanation of endogamy, for anybody who needs one.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

There is something you can try using familysearch.org.  If not a member, join, it's free.

Do a new search, enter the last name in the surname field, and ONLY the FIRST Names of both parents in the mother and father field (you can try one parent name also, but the list will be longer).  Under TYPE, check off BIRTHS.  In the birth location field, fill in New York City or other part of NYC and do a search.  Change location and keep trying - there are never guarantees.

You'll get a list of all the birth records that got indexed for the surname and the first names of the parents  unless the name was butchered badly on the records.  Try variations

If you are lucky, you'll find a couple of promising leads.  Some of the data on the BC's are extracted.  With the film number and certificate number, you can go to the Family  History Center when they reopen and find the images on line.  I have found several children that were unknown in our family in this manner and had died at birth or even within four or five years later.   
Fred Kolbrener