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Re: Kiskeneff, Russia #general

bjeberman@...
 

Fellow Genners,

Trying to find out where Kiskeneff, Russia is located, as well if it has changed
it's name. Any help with do? Thank you for taking the time on my behalf.

Please respond to be privately at bjeberman@aol.com.

Judith Elaine Berman

Moderator Note: JewishGen ShtetlSeeker is a wonderful resource for searching for a
Jewish Community. Access it at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Kiskeneff, Russia #general

bjeberman@...
 

Fellow Genners,

Trying to find out where Kiskeneff, Russia is located, as well if it has changed
it's name. Any help with do? Thank you for taking the time on my behalf.

Please respond to be privately at bjeberman@aol.com.

Judith Elaine Berman

Moderator Note: JewishGen ShtetlSeeker is a wonderful resource for searching for a
Jewish Community. Access it at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/


New JewishGen Databases - Philadelphia #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce two new Philadelphia-based databases, containing
over 100,000 records:

* The Rosenbaum Bank Passenger Order Records Database
* Philadelphia Jewish Exponent Obituary Database

1) The Rosenbaum Bank Passenger Order Records Database:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaRosenbaum.htm >.

In the port cities on the east coast of the U.S. in the late 19th and early 20th
century, there were "ethnic" or "immigrant" banks - commercial enterprises where
recent immigrants could save money and arrange to purchase steamship tickets to
bring their families to the U.S.

Today, the record books of three of these banks are housed at the Philadelphia
Jewish Archives Center (PJAC). In addition to information about the immigrant,
these records usually contain the name and address of the person who paid for the
tickets, the port of entry (usually, but not always, Philadelphia), and intended
final destination (again, not necessarily Philadelphia).

Through the collaboration of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater
Philadelphia, the PJAC, and JewishGen, the records of the Rosenbaum Bank have been
indexed. This database contains information on 82,979 passengers for whom tickets
were purchased between 1890 and 1934.

2) The Philadelphia 'Jewish Exponent' Obituary Database:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaObits.htm >.

An index of 34,000 obituary notices which appeared in the Philadelphia 'Jewish
Exponent' newspaper, compiled by volunteers of the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Greater Philadelphia. Upon completion of the project, data spanning >from April
1887 to the present will be available. Data is currently available for the years
1887-1903, 1914-35, 1946, 1950, 1955-57, 1992-94, and 2004-06.

These two databases actually contain well over 100,000 data items, because each of
the immigration ticket orders contains the name of both the purchaser and the
passenger, and each obituary database record contains the surnames of all of the
surviving relatives.

Both of these datasets can be searched via the "JewishGen USA Database" interface
at: < http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA >.

All of JewishGen's databases can be found at < http://www.jewishgen.org/databases >

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
< wblatt@jewishgen.org >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New JewishGen Databases - Philadelphia #general

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce two new Philadelphia-based databases, containing
over 100,000 records:

* The Rosenbaum Bank Passenger Order Records Database
* Philadelphia Jewish Exponent Obituary Database

1) The Rosenbaum Bank Passenger Order Records Database:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaRosenbaum.htm >.

In the port cities on the east coast of the U.S. in the late 19th and early 20th
century, there were "ethnic" or "immigrant" banks - commercial enterprises where
recent immigrants could save money and arrange to purchase steamship tickets to
bring their families to the U.S.

Today, the record books of three of these banks are housed at the Philadelphia
Jewish Archives Center (PJAC). In addition to information about the immigrant,
these records usually contain the name and address of the person who paid for the
tickets, the port of entry (usually, but not always, Philadelphia), and intended
final destination (again, not necessarily Philadelphia).

Through the collaboration of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater
Philadelphia, the PJAC, and JewishGen, the records of the Rosenbaum Bank have been
indexed. This database contains information on 82,979 passengers for whom tickets
were purchased between 1890 and 1934.

2) The Philadelphia 'Jewish Exponent' Obituary Database:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaObits.htm >.

An index of 34,000 obituary notices which appeared in the Philadelphia 'Jewish
Exponent' newspaper, compiled by volunteers of the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Greater Philadelphia. Upon completion of the project, data spanning >from April
1887 to the present will be available. Data is currently available for the years
1887-1903, 1914-35, 1946, 1950, 1955-57, 1992-94, and 2004-06.

These two databases actually contain well over 100,000 data items, because each of
the immigration ticket orders contains the name of both the purchaser and the
passenger, and each obituary database record contains the surnames of all of the
surviving relatives.

Both of these datasets can be searched via the "JewishGen USA Database" interface
at: < http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA >.

All of JewishGen's databases can be found at < http://www.jewishgen.org/databases >

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
< wblatt@jewishgen.org >


Prisons in Galicia and Ukraine #ukraine

Talila Stan
 

Prisons in Galicia/Ukraine
A relative of mine (Leon Pasternak) born in Lwow was
imprisoned in the early 1930's because of communist
activities. It is suggested that he was imprisoned in
Bereza Kartuska,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_Camp_Bereza_Kartuska
which was not in Galicia/Ukraine, as there might not
have been special prisons for political prisoners
there.

Talila Stan
Researching Pasternak, Freudenthal, Schwager,
Pohoryles, Blaustein (all >from Ukraine - Galicia)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Prisons in Galicia and Ukraine #ukraine

Talila Stan
 

Prisons in Galicia/Ukraine
A relative of mine (Leon Pasternak) born in Lwow was
imprisoned in the early 1930's because of communist
activities. It is suggested that he was imprisoned in
Bereza Kartuska,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_Camp_Bereza_Kartuska
which was not in Galicia/Ukraine, as there might not
have been special prisons for political prisoners
there.

Talila Stan
Researching Pasternak, Freudenthal, Schwager,
Pohoryles, Blaustein (all >from Ukraine - Galicia)


Interviews and Jewish Genealogy on Website "Tracing Your Family Roots" #galicia

Herbert Huebscher <huebsch@...>
 

As a member of the Gesher Galicia SIG, I would like to make others
aware of a website, named "Tracing Your Family Roots," that
features interviews on Jewish Genealogy.

The interview of Bennett Greenspan, President and CEO of Family
Tree DNA, was posted on May 24, and is available for viewing
through a link on the site.

The most recent interview posted on the site is that of myself
(Herb Huebscher), reporting on our on-going DNA based Jewish
Genealogy project regarding the WIRTH group. (WIRTH is an acronym,
standing for the first five families identified as belonging to the
group. The group now includes 58 individuals comprising 42
families.) If you are interested in the application of DNA to
Jewish genealogy, I suggest you might want to take in that interview
as well as the previous one by Bennett. We will be making a
presentation on our WIRTH project at the 2007 IAJGS conference in
Salt Lake City on Friday morning, July 20.

There are many other interviews of interest on the site. One done
one year ago is also of interest >from a DNA point of view, namely
that of Sonia Rosa. Her father (and her paternal ancestral family)
are part of the WIRTH group.

You can access all the interviews by going to
tracingroots.nova.org and selecting, and clicking on the interview
of interest to you.

Herb Huebscher

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Thinking of testing your DNA? Read more at
http://www.jewishgen.org/DNA/ .


Beheaded by Cossaks #galicia

David Birnbaum <David-b@...>
 

In 1919 there were pogroms in many places across the Ukraine. See
http://www.berdichev.org/the_pogroms_in_ukraine_in_1919.htm .

My family, who came >from the Grimaylow area, were affected by the
famous pogrom in Proskurov - see
http://www.west.net/~jazz/felshtin/redcross.html

Since Proskurov is only some 44 miles >from Grimaylow, it is quite
possible that this pogrom, or closely related attacks could account
for Israel's story.

David BIRNBAUM
Rechovot, Israel
Researching BIRNBAUM, RAWER, DRESNER, SCHARFSPITZ

On 12 Jun 2007 Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> wrote...

We have just located some US descendants of three Pikholz sisters
from Grimaylow, who went to the US before WWI.
One son says that they had a brother who was "beheaded by Cossaks"...
Does anyone know anything about a pogrom (probably soon after WWI)
in or near Grimaylow that might account for the story? Better yet,
something with names and dates.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Interviews and Jewish Genealogy on Website "Tracing Your Family Roots" #galicia

Herbert Huebscher <huebsch@...>
 

As a member of the Gesher Galicia SIG, I would like to make others
aware of a website, named "Tracing Your Family Roots," that
features interviews on Jewish Genealogy.

The interview of Bennett Greenspan, President and CEO of Family
Tree DNA, was posted on May 24, and is available for viewing
through a link on the site.

The most recent interview posted on the site is that of myself
(Herb Huebscher), reporting on our on-going DNA based Jewish
Genealogy project regarding the WIRTH group. (WIRTH is an acronym,
standing for the first five families identified as belonging to the
group. The group now includes 58 individuals comprising 42
families.) If you are interested in the application of DNA to
Jewish genealogy, I suggest you might want to take in that interview
as well as the previous one by Bennett. We will be making a
presentation on our WIRTH project at the 2007 IAJGS conference in
Salt Lake City on Friday morning, July 20.

There are many other interviews of interest on the site. One done
one year ago is also of interest >from a DNA point of view, namely
that of Sonia Rosa. Her father (and her paternal ancestral family)
are part of the WIRTH group.

You can access all the interviews by going to
tracingroots.nova.org and selecting, and clicking on the interview
of interest to you.

Herb Huebscher

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Thinking of testing your DNA? Read more at
http://www.jewishgen.org/DNA/ .


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Beheaded by Cossaks #galicia

David Birnbaum <David-b@...>
 

In 1919 there were pogroms in many places across the Ukraine. See
http://www.berdichev.org/the_pogroms_in_ukraine_in_1919.htm .

My family, who came >from the Grimaylow area, were affected by the
famous pogrom in Proskurov - see
http://www.west.net/~jazz/felshtin/redcross.html

Since Proskurov is only some 44 miles >from Grimaylow, it is quite
possible that this pogrom, or closely related attacks could account
for Israel's story.

David BIRNBAUM
Rechovot, Israel
Researching BIRNBAUM, RAWER, DRESNER, SCHARFSPITZ

On 12 Jun 2007 Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> wrote...

We have just located some US descendants of three Pikholz sisters
from Grimaylow, who went to the US before WWI.
One son says that they had a brother who was "beheaded by Cossaks"...
Does anyone know anything about a pogrom (probably soon after WWI)
in or near Grimaylow that might account for the story? Better yet,
something with names and dates.


Next Basic Jewish Genealogy Course beginning July 1, 2007 #galicia

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

New to genealogy? Not sure how to begin? How to organize? What
JewishGen has to offer? Best websites? Consider JewishGen’s Basic
Jewish Genealogy course, which consists of 8 lessons, delivered
online twice weekly. Lessons are PDFs or, upon request, WORD
documents, and can be downloaded or read online.

The lessons will cover using genealogy formats, assembling trees,
organizing and tracking information, interviewing, Jewish naming
conventions, Internet genealogy resources, U.S. vital records, U.S.
census and U.S. passenger manifests (Ellis Island) and two lessons
will be devoted to JewishGen’s web site and its many databases. It
will also contain hints and tips on how to best use your computer
and the Internet.

We feature an online FORUM where students can post their ancestral
information, documents and photographs, and get answers and
suggestions >from the instructor and fellow students.

The tuition for Basic Genealogy is $36; however, if you qualify for
the value added services by virtue of a $100 annual donation, you
are welcome to enroll at no additional charge. (To get the waiver
don’t enroll just yet, instead send a note, with your JewishGen ID,
to Jewishgen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org .)

For more information and to enroll online, go to
www.jewishgen.org/education and read the course description.
Students should be comfortable browsing the internet and have 3-5
hours per week available to read the lessons, sample the websites,
and interact with the FORUM.

This is our 4th class; the prior ones have received wonderful
reviews. Once the class is full (60 students) registration will be
closed.

Hope you can join us!

Phyllis Kramer, Vice President
JewishGen Education
phylliskramer1@att.net


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Next Basic Jewish Genealogy Course beginning July 1, 2007 #galicia

Phyllis Kramer <phylliskramer1@...>
 

New to genealogy? Not sure how to begin? How to organize? What
JewishGen has to offer? Best websites? Consider JewishGen’s Basic
Jewish Genealogy course, which consists of 8 lessons, delivered
online twice weekly. Lessons are PDFs or, upon request, WORD
documents, and can be downloaded or read online.

The lessons will cover using genealogy formats, assembling trees,
organizing and tracking information, interviewing, Jewish naming
conventions, Internet genealogy resources, U.S. vital records, U.S.
census and U.S. passenger manifests (Ellis Island) and two lessons
will be devoted to JewishGen’s web site and its many databases. It
will also contain hints and tips on how to best use your computer
and the Internet.

We feature an online FORUM where students can post their ancestral
information, documents and photographs, and get answers and
suggestions >from the instructor and fellow students.

The tuition for Basic Genealogy is $36; however, if you qualify for
the value added services by virtue of a $100 annual donation, you
are welcome to enroll at no additional charge. (To get the waiver
don’t enroll just yet, instead send a note, with your JewishGen ID,
to Jewishgen-Education@lyris.jewishgen.org .)

For more information and to enroll online, go to
www.jewishgen.org/education and read the course description.
Students should be comfortable browsing the internet and have 3-5
hours per week available to read the lessons, sample the websites,
and interact with the FORUM.

This is our 4th class; the prior ones have received wonderful
reviews. Once the class is full (60 students) registration will be
closed.

Hope you can join us!

Phyllis Kramer, Vice President
JewishGen Education
phylliskramer1@att.net


Re: Amador County, California Historic Jewish Cemetery - and #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Shelly,

What you stumbled upon was one of several California Gold-Rush era Jewish
cemeteries. As you might imagine, the announcement of the discovery of gold in 1848
brought forth a rush of emigrants >from all over the world. However, it would have
been rare to find a Jew panning for gold. Most of them set up shop as dry-goods or
clothing merchants (ie., Levi Strauss). Towards the end of the nineteenth century
most Jewish families tended to move away to larger communities such as Sacramento
or the San Francisco Bay Area. These cemeteries then fell into disuse.

Fast forward to the 1960s and the Commission for the Preservation of Pioneer Jewish
Cemeteries and Landmarks which was set up in 1963 by the Judah. L. Magnes Museum in
Berkeley, California. The Commission negotiated with seven communities in which
there were Jewish cemeteries and became the owners which then allowed the
cemeteries to be preserved and documented.

Within the Magnes is the Western Jewish History Center, which maintains all the
documentation on the cemeteries. These cemeteries can be found in Grass Valley,
Jackson, Marysville, Mokelumne Hill, Nevada City, Placerville and Sonora. Another
Jewish cemetery which is not part of the Commission's remit can be found in
Oroville (where I will be visiting this weekend).

A very useful history and self-guided tour can be found in the book, A Traveler's
Guide to Pioneer Jewish Cemeteries of the California Gold Rush. it was written by
Susan Morris, a former director of the Magnes. It was published by the museum and
can be purchased >from their bookstore.

Anyone visiting the Bay Area really ought to allow time to visit the Museum and
WJHC which is the third largest Jewish museum in the country.

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

President,
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society

e/m: jfrankel@lmi.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Amador County, California Historic Jewish Cemetery - and #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Shelly,

What you stumbled upon was one of several California Gold-Rush era Jewish
cemeteries. As you might imagine, the announcement of the discovery of gold in 1848
brought forth a rush of emigrants >from all over the world. However, it would have
been rare to find a Jew panning for gold. Most of them set up shop as dry-goods or
clothing merchants (ie., Levi Strauss). Towards the end of the nineteenth century
most Jewish families tended to move away to larger communities such as Sacramento
or the San Francisco Bay Area. These cemeteries then fell into disuse.

Fast forward to the 1960s and the Commission for the Preservation of Pioneer Jewish
Cemeteries and Landmarks which was set up in 1963 by the Judah. L. Magnes Museum in
Berkeley, California. The Commission negotiated with seven communities in which
there were Jewish cemeteries and became the owners which then allowed the
cemeteries to be preserved and documented.

Within the Magnes is the Western Jewish History Center, which maintains all the
documentation on the cemeteries. These cemeteries can be found in Grass Valley,
Jackson, Marysville, Mokelumne Hill, Nevada City, Placerville and Sonora. Another
Jewish cemetery which is not part of the Commission's remit can be found in
Oroville (where I will be visiting this weekend).

A very useful history and self-guided tour can be found in the book, A Traveler's
Guide to Pioneer Jewish Cemeteries of the California Gold Rush. it was written by
Susan Morris, a former director of the Magnes. It was published by the museum and
can be purchased >from their bookstore.

Anyone visiting the Bay Area really ought to allow time to visit the Museum and
WJHC which is the third largest Jewish museum in the country.

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

President,
San Francisco Bay Area
Jewish Genealogical Society

e/m: jfrankel@lmi.net


Navarro NATAL and Ramirez PEREZ families of Puerto Rico (and Spain) #general

asbury8@...
 

A friend of mine, who grew up in Puerto Rico, has shared with me some of her
fascinating Sephardic past, and I told her I would see if I could find any
information for her >from the very helpful and informed JewishGenners.

My friend has been able to trace her maternal great great grandmother, Jewish, all
the way back to Spain. My friend has seen her g-g-grandmother's travel itinerary
from Spain to Cuba to Puerto Rico. She left Spain to marry a Jewish man in Puerto
Rico.

Apparently there were Jewish families that came to Puerto Rico and settled in the
same areas, lived together, and married each other. My friend's g-g-grandmother
came with her brothers and married my friend's great-great-grandfather, also
Jewish. These brothers married some of the g-g-grand father's sisters! (So, she
has ancestors related to her in more than one way, with g-g-g-aunts marrying
g-g-g-uncles!)

One question my friend has is: How did these Jewish people in Spain know enough
about these Jewish people in Puerto Rico that they made these long distance
matches? As my friend says, "mail order brides of 1800s?"

My friends' great-great-grandparents' last names were Navarro NATAL and Ramirez
PEREZ. She has found these last names on the list of names at Sephardim.com, but
without any additional information.

If anyone has any general information on how/why these Spanish Jews came over to
Puerto Rico, and how (and perhaps why) they made these long distance engagements, I
would appreciate it.

I would also appreciate it if anyone has information on the NAVARRO NATAL
and RAMIREZ PEREZ families.

Thank you!

Tali Segal
outside Philadelphia, PA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Navarro NATAL and Ramirez PEREZ families of Puerto Rico (and Spain) #general

asbury8@...
 

A friend of mine, who grew up in Puerto Rico, has shared with me some of her
fascinating Sephardic past, and I told her I would see if I could find any
information for her >from the very helpful and informed JewishGenners.

My friend has been able to trace her maternal great great grandmother, Jewish, all
the way back to Spain. My friend has seen her g-g-grandmother's travel itinerary
from Spain to Cuba to Puerto Rico. She left Spain to marry a Jewish man in Puerto
Rico.

Apparently there were Jewish families that came to Puerto Rico and settled in the
same areas, lived together, and married each other. My friend's g-g-grandmother
came with her brothers and married my friend's great-great-grandfather, also
Jewish. These brothers married some of the g-g-grand father's sisters! (So, she
has ancestors related to her in more than one way, with g-g-g-aunts marrying
g-g-g-uncles!)

One question my friend has is: How did these Jewish people in Spain know enough
about these Jewish people in Puerto Rico that they made these long distance
matches? As my friend says, "mail order brides of 1800s?"

My friends' great-great-grandparents' last names were Navarro NATAL and Ramirez
PEREZ. She has found these last names on the list of names at Sephardim.com, but
without any additional information.

If anyone has any general information on how/why these Spanish Jews came over to
Puerto Rico, and how (and perhaps why) they made these long distance engagements, I
would appreciate it.

I would also appreciate it if anyone has information on the NAVARRO NATAL
and RAMIREZ PEREZ families.

Thank you!

Tali Segal
outside Philadelphia, PA


German Translation #germany

Randy and Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Dear Gersiggers,

Would anyone be so kind as to translate the sentence below for me (regarding
my uncle)? MODERATOR NOTE: Do not post foreign language text to this forum.
The JewishGen ViewMate service is devoted to that kind of thing. I have allowed
the short passage below >from this new GerSIG member as a one-time courtesy.

Gratefully, Nancy Fox Franklin, Tennessee, USA jessefox7@bellsouth.net

Here's the German: "In den hier gefuhrten Findbuchern - Judischen
Wahlerverzelchnis 1916, Judischen Adressbuch 1929/30 sowie dem
Mitgliederverzeichnis der judischen Gemeinder zu Berlin Stand voraus, nach
1945 - is der von Ihnen Gesuchte nicht verzelchnet."


German SIG #Germany German Translation #germany

Randy and Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Dear Gersiggers,

Would anyone be so kind as to translate the sentence below for me (regarding
my uncle)? MODERATOR NOTE: Do not post foreign language text to this forum.
The JewishGen ViewMate service is devoted to that kind of thing. I have allowed
the short passage below >from this new GerSIG member as a one-time courtesy.

Gratefully, Nancy Fox Franklin, Tennessee, USA jessefox7@bellsouth.net

Here's the German: "In den hier gefuhrten Findbuchern - Judischen
Wahlerverzelchnis 1916, Judischen Adressbuch 1929/30 sowie dem
Mitgliederverzeichnis der judischen Gemeinder zu Berlin Stand voraus, nach
1945 - is der von Ihnen Gesuchte nicht verzelchnet."


Israeli portal plans to connect the world, family by family #germany

A & B Algaze <Algaze@...>
 

Found on the World Wide Web:
Danny Rolls, a 34-year-old Israeli, has some very grand ideas with his web
site company, Famillion. The goal of the web site, which allows users to
create their own personal family trees, is to map the entire world through
these trees. [.....snip - This is a commercial enterprise, not appropriate
for discussion here. The reported new technology that's supposed to enable
such a dubious result may be interesting to some. An internet search will
provide more details. MODERATOR]

Barbara Algaze Los Angeles, California Algaze@ca.rr.com


German SIG #Germany Israeli portal plans to connect the world, family by family #germany

A & B Algaze <Algaze@...>
 

Found on the World Wide Web:
Danny Rolls, a 34-year-old Israeli, has some very grand ideas with his web
site company, Famillion. The goal of the web site, which allows users to
create their own personal family trees, is to map the entire world through
these trees. [.....snip - This is a commercial enterprise, not appropriate
for discussion here. The reported new technology that's supposed to enable
such a dubious result may be interesting to some. An internet search will
provide more details. MODERATOR]

Barbara Algaze Los Angeles, California Algaze@ca.rr.com