On 9/28/07, Lisa Newman <lisa.newman.a@...> wrote:
I have not seen a mention of Edward Anders [Alperovich, born in Liepaja, Latvia in 1926] on this thread. He carried out an amazing project to document the list of some 7,000 Jews who
lived in Libau, Latvia before the Holocaust and documented their fates. His
own History of surviving the Holocaust is well worth reading.....

Edward Anders is indeed a remarkable man. He was also the first to
pay for the revision lists of "Alperoviches >from Kurenets" and was
kind to sent them to other Alperovich researchers around the world.
His Alperovich family left Kurenets ( at the same time as their
relatives; Yehoshua K/Costrel- Dvora Alperovich family) for Latvia c
1890 . They needed to get a special permit >from the Russian
authorities to live outside the pale.

Thanks,
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles

On 9/28/07, Lisa Newman <lisa.newman.a@...> wrote:
I have not seen a mention of Edward Anders [Alperovich, born in Liepaja, Latvia in 1926] on this thread. He carried out an amazing project to document the list of some 7,000 Jews who
lived in Libau, Latvia before the Holocaust and documented their fates. His
own History of surviving the Holocaust is well worth reading.....

Edward Anders is indeed a remarkable man. He was also the first to
pay for the revision lists of "Alperoviches >from Kurenets" and was
kind to sent them to other Alperovich researchers around the world.
His Alperovich family left Kurenets ( at the same time as their
relatives; Yehoshua K/Costrel- Dvora Alperovich family) for Latvia c
1890 . They needed to get a special permit >from the Russian
authorities to live outside the pale.

Thanks,
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles

I think I once learned that it is sometimes possible
to obtain copies of old US passport applications.
I'm looking for one >from perhaps the mid-1920s.
Where should I look?

Michael Kaplan
Princeton, New Jersey


Michael, Passport Applications up to and including
1924-1925 are located at Archives I in Washington,
D.C. The Index and Applications are on microfilm.
Beyond that, you must contact the State Department.
Also, the Index to the Passport Applications is at
Mid-Atlantic Branch of NARA in Philadelphia, PA.



Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
(outside of Philadelphia)
sweethawk2@...
Researching:
WAGMAN, PEPPER, GALOON, SCHMOISH, DEUTSCH, ZUCK -
Kolki, Turiysk, Olyka, Argentina, Uruguay, Philadelphia PA, Montreal Canada;
NEUBAUER - Radekhov, Philadelphia; Indianapolis IN; HOROWITZ - Oshmiany, Philadelphia;
BRODSKY - Teraspol Moldova, Kharkov Russia, Bristol PA, Terre Haute IN;
INGER - Kishinev, Bristol PA; NEWMAN - Kishinev, Teraspol Moldova, Kolki

I think I once learned that it is sometimes possible
to obtain copies of old US passport applications.
I'm looking for one >from perhaps the mid-1920s.
Where should I look?

Michael Kaplan
Princeton, New Jersey


Michael, Passport Applications up to and including
1924-1925 are located at Archives I in Washington,
D.C. The Index and Applications are on microfilm.
Beyond that, you must contact the State Department.
Also, the Index to the Passport Applications is at
Mid-Atlantic Branch of NARA in Philadelphia, PA.



Selma Neubauer
Jenkintown, PA USA
(outside of Philadelphia)
sweethawk2@...
Researching:
WAGMAN, PEPPER, GALOON, SCHMOISH, DEUTSCH, ZUCK -
Kolki, Turiysk, Olyka, Argentina, Uruguay, Philadelphia PA, Montreal Canada;
NEUBAUER - Radekhov, Philadelphia; Indianapolis IN; HOROWITZ - Oshmiany, Philadelphia;
BRODSKY - Teraspol Moldova, Kharkov Russia, Bristol PA, Terre Haute IN;
INGER - Kishinev, Bristol PA; NEWMAN - Kishinev, Teraspol Moldova, Kolki

I am hoping to start researching my maternal grandmother's family who
came >from Serbesti, near Piatra-Neamt. The family came to America
during the 1905-1909 timeframe.

I have seen the "request letter" PDF on the SIG website, and I assume
that this is a suggested template for writing to the Archives. Does
an editable version of this form exist? Can anyone share experience
with dealing with the Archives? I sent them an email a couple of
years ago, and got a response (in English) that someone >from Piatra-
Neamt would get right back to me. That was two years ago.

What kind of data is available >from the archives? Was there ever a
major census (like the All Russia census of 1897) that might include
my family? Should I expect to be able to find birth/marriage/death
records? If you've had success with the Archives, what did it cost?

Does anyone have any maps (old or new) that might be detailed enough
to see Serbesti? I wonder what it is like today. According to some
webpages, it still exists and is populated, but beyond that, not much
info. It is Latitude: 46.86667 N Longitude: 27.85 E.

Any information would be very much appreciated!

Regards,
Bruce Dumes
Los Angeles

Researching:
DUMES/DUMESH in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
NOWOSELOK/SILK in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
ABELSKY/OBELSKI/OBELSKA in Lodzie/Lozdzieje, Lithuania
ZUCKER/TSUCKER in Serbesti, Romania

I am hoping to start researching my maternal grandmother's family who
came >from Serbesti, near Piatra-Neamt. The family came to America
during the 1905-1909 timeframe.

I have seen the "request letter" PDF on the SIG website, and I assume
that this is a suggested template for writing to the Archives. Does
an editable version of this form exist? Can anyone share experience
with dealing with the Archives? I sent them an email a couple of
years ago, and got a response (in English) that someone >from Piatra-
Neamt would get right back to me. That was two years ago.

What kind of data is available >from the archives? Was there ever a
major census (like the All Russia census of 1897) that might include
my family? Should I expect to be able to find birth/marriage/death
records? If you've had success with the Archives, what did it cost?

Does anyone have any maps (old or new) that might be detailed enough
to see Serbesti? I wonder what it is like today. According to some
webpages, it still exists and is populated, but beyond that, not much
info. It is Latitude: 46.86667 N Longitude: 27.85 E.

Any information would be very much appreciated!

Regards,
Bruce Dumes
Los Angeles

Researching:
DUMES/DUMESH in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
NOWOSELOK/SILK in Viski/Vishki, Latvia
ABELSKY/OBELSKI/OBELSKA in Lodzie/Lozdzieje, Lithuania
ZUCKER/TSUCKER in Serbesti, Romania

Lois Segal Freedman posted on the Romania SIG as follows:

I just came across a postcard that was sent to my grandfather Nathan Segal
who was at the time living in the United States. This postcard is dated
9/10/1933 and it was >from my grandfather's nephew David SEGAL.
This card is introducing my grandfather to David SEGAL's betrothed whose
name to the best of my ability is Lotty GRIEBERD or GREUBEROL or something
similar. I'm sorry but I can't make out the names spelling as well as
I'd like to so I do apologize for this.
The postcard states, "We send you this as a sign >from our part that we are
betrothed and you have relations in Romania to which you write rarely."
I would so love to hear >from anyone who might know or have known or are
the family of David and Lotty SEGAL. Just of additional note that this
postcard
is also a picture of David and Lotty and that should make it easier to
identify.
Also, I know that my grandfather and his brothers and sister came >from
Iasi, Romania.

The female secular names Lotty/Lotti/Lotte/Lote were variously used as
secular nicknames for other secular names like the German names Charlotte
and Liselotte, as well as being a stand-alone German secular name. Thus,
if one finds one archival source that has the name Lotti, one should
suspect that any one of the other names listed above may also have been
used by that same person. And this could have important impacts on the
research work.

Moadim L'simcha,

Professor G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel

Lois Segal Freedman posted on the Romania SIG as follows:

I just came across a postcard that was sent to my grandfather Nathan Segal
who was at the time living in the United States. This postcard is dated
9/10/1933 and it was >from my grandfather's nephew David SEGAL.
This card is introducing my grandfather to David SEGAL's betrothed whose
name to the best of my ability is Lotty GRIEBERD or GREUBEROL or something
similar. I'm sorry but I can't make out the names spelling as well as
I'd like to so I do apologize for this.
The postcard states, "We send you this as a sign >from our part that we are
betrothed and you have relations in Romania to which you write rarely."
I would so love to hear >from anyone who might know or have known or are
the family of David and Lotty SEGAL. Just of additional note that this
postcard
is also a picture of David and Lotty and that should make it easier to
identify.
Also, I know that my grandfather and his brothers and sister came >from
Iasi, Romania.

The female secular names Lotty/Lotti/Lotte/Lote were variously used as
secular nicknames for other secular names like the German names Charlotte
and Liselotte, as well as being a stand-alone German secular name. Thus,
if one finds one archival source that has the name Lotti, one should
suspect that any one of the other names listed above may also have been
used by that same person. And this could have important impacts on the
research work.

Moadim L'simcha,

Professor G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel

Hello,
I am requesting further advice with regard to the research I'm conducting
on Jona Arenberg. In my previous posting of May 2007 there were two people
in question, - Jona ARENBERG, who lived in 1944 at 18, rue Chavalier Roze,
Marseille, deported >from Drancy to Auschwitz on convoy 76 on June 30, 1944

- and Joana ARENBERG, listed as living at that same address, interned in
Drancy on May 29,1944.

They proved to be one person, Mr. Jona (Joena, Joana, Jean)ARENBERG,
born on May 20,1892 in Tiraspol, Moldova.

from the two documents >from the National Archive of France, provided by

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp=3Fkey=3D10593
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp=3Fkey=3D10594
it is known the following:

In 1920 J. ARENBERG escaped >from Moldova to Romania and lived in Kishinev,
without the Romanian citizenship. On March 31 (or 21), 1935, he received
a Temporary Certificate >from the Prefecture of Police of Kishinev, attest-
that he was a Russian subject.

In 1936 (or 1939) he entered France >from Italy without a passport, was
arrested by the police in Paris on March 30, 1939, sent for a month to prison
as a penalty and on April 30, 1939 ordered to leave France.

On May 3, 1939 J. ARENBERG received >from the Office of Russian Refugees a
document saying that Mr. Arenberg was undoubtedly a Russian refugee.
On May 11, 1939, J. Arenberg received >from the Union Generale des Associations
des Anciens Combattants Russes (Russian Veterans Association) a certificate
which recorded his military service >from 1913 in the tsarist Russia.

Before August 1939, J. Arenberg applied to the Prefect of Police of Paris,
claiming to be a Russian refugee and requesting the benefit of the Article
11 of the decree dated May 2, 1938.

In August 1939 the Prefect of Police of Paris sent a letter to the Ministry
of Internal, saying: "This foreigner seems to have the right to the quality
of Russian refugee... I intend to give him an identity and travel
certificate, valid for several countries, in order to allow him to find a
country to immigrate to.

Dear siggers,

To go further with my research, please give me suggestion what would be
further steps to learn more about J. Arenberg in the time span >from 1939 to
1944.
Where could I send queries to learn:
1. If J. Arenberg got the statute of the Russian refugee
2. If he got an Identity and travel certificate >from the Ministry of the
Interior
3. What happened to Jona Arenberg in Paris in August 1944 and further on
4. The circumstances of J. Arenberg's life in Marseille before the arrest
and the circumstances of his arrest


Where are stored the archives of
- Union Generale des Associations des Anciens Combattants Russes
- Office des Refugies russes
- Office Central des Refugies russes

Please send private responses only.
Thank you all,
Janet FURBA
Germany

Hello,
I am requesting further advice with regard to the research I'm conducting
on Jona Arenberg. In my previous posting of May 2007 there were two people
in question, - Jona ARENBERG, who lived in 1944 at 18, rue Chavalier Roze,
Marseille, deported >from Drancy to Auschwitz on convoy 76 on June 30, 1944

- and Joana ARENBERG, listed as living at that same address, interned in
Drancy on May 29,1944.

They proved to be one person, Mr. Jona (Joena, Joana, Jean)ARENBERG,
born on May 20,1892 in Tiraspol, Moldova.

from the two documents >from the National Archive of France, provided by

Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp=3Fkey=3D10593
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp=3Fkey=3D10594
it is known the following:

In 1920 J. ARENBERG escaped >from Moldova to Romania and lived in Kishinev,
without the Romanian citizenship. On March 31 (or 21), 1935, he received
a Temporary Certificate >from the Prefecture of Police of Kishinev, attest-
that he was a Russian subject.

In 1936 (or 1939) he entered France >from Italy without a passport, was
arrested by the police in Paris on March 30, 1939, sent for a month to prison
as a penalty and on April 30, 1939 ordered to leave France.

On May 3, 1939 J. ARENBERG received >from the Office of Russian Refugees a
document saying that Mr. Arenberg was undoubtedly a Russian refugee.
On May 11, 1939, J. Arenberg received >from the Union Generale des Associations
des Anciens Combattants Russes (Russian Veterans Association) a certificate
which recorded his military service >from 1913 in the tsarist Russia.

Before August 1939, J. Arenberg applied to the Prefect of Police of Paris,
claiming to be a Russian refugee and requesting the benefit of the Article
11 of the decree dated May 2, 1938.

In August 1939 the Prefect of Police of Paris sent a letter to the Ministry
of Internal, saying: "This foreigner seems to have the right to the quality
of Russian refugee... I intend to give him an identity and travel
certificate, valid for several countries, in order to allow him to find a
country to immigrate to.

Dear siggers,

To go further with my research, please give me suggestion what would be
further steps to learn more about J. Arenberg in the time span >from 1939 to
1944.
Where could I send queries to learn:
1. If J. Arenberg got the statute of the Russian refugee
2. If he got an Identity and travel certificate >from the Ministry of the
Interior
3. What happened to Jona Arenberg in Paris in August 1944 and further on
4. The circumstances of J. Arenberg's life in Marseille before the arrest
and the circumstances of his arrest


Where are stored the archives of
- Union Generale des Associations des Anciens Combattants Russes
- Office des Refugies russes
- Office Central des Refugies russes

Please send private responses only.
Thank you all,
Janet FURBA
Germany

As regards access, physical or archives, to the cemeteries of Cologne
the person responsible is Mr. Winfried Guenther, Friedhofsverwalter der
Synagogen-Gemeinde Koeln (Cemetery Manager of the Synagogue Community Cologne).

His e-mail is: winfried.guenther@...
He knows every grave. He was very helpful to this year's group of
official visitors to the city, of which I was a part.

Jerry Salomon, La Jolla CA Researcher# 100032

On Sept. 18th, Ellie Bond Heidenheim, Eastbourne, England elliebond@...
wrote about cemeteries in Koeln / Koln (o umlaut) / Cologne.

As regards access, physical or archives, to the cemeteries of Cologne
the person responsible is Mr. Winfried Guenther, Friedhofsverwalter der
Synagogen-Gemeinde Koeln (Cemetery Manager of the Synagogue Community Cologne).

His e-mail is: winfried.guenther@...
He knows every grave. He was very helpful to this year's group of
official visitors to the city, of which I was a part.

Jerry Salomon, La Jolla CA Researcher# 100032

On Sept. 18th, Ellie Bond Heidenheim, Eastbourne, England elliebond@...
wrote about cemeteries in Koeln / Koln (o umlaut) / Cologne.

My relative Louise FRANKEL / FRAENKEL(a Umlaut) married a Hans KISSENBERT or
KISSENBERTH in Munich. Their children were Erich Otto K. and Routh Louise K.

I will be grateful for information about members or descendants of this family.

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco, California <oliverbryk@...>

MODERATOR NOTE: Please include dates, even if estimated, together with names
and places, in your messages. When did Luise and Hans marry in Munich?

My relative Louise FRANKEL / FRAENKEL(a Umlaut) married a Hans KISSENBERT or
KISSENBERTH in Munich. Their children were Erich Otto K. and Routh Louise K.

I will be grateful for information about members or descendants of this family.

Oliver Bryk, San Francisco, California <oliverbryk@...>

MODERATOR NOTE: Please include dates, even if estimated, together with names
and places, in your messages. When did Luise and Hans marry in Munich?

Hello,

I am looking for a small pamphlet:

Lewis Weiner: The Weiners. New York 1996

Does anyone know how I can get a copy of this pamphlet in paper or
electronic.

Best regards
Thomas Fuerth
Stockholm
Sweden

Reseaching FUERTH, Susice and Kolesovice, ENGEL, Libomysl and Prague,
HELLER, Orakov, Kolesovice and Zatec, STERN, Kardasova Recice, Trebon and
Svihov, STERN, Mylskovice, LEINER, Blsany, WEINER, Klatovy and Strazov,
GROSSMANN, Police and Vienna, JANOWSKY, Janovice and Prague, POPPER,
Bresnice and Pragaue and DUSCHENES, Bresnice and Prague

Hello,

I am looking for a small pamphlet:

Lewis Weiner: The Weiners. New York 1996

Does anyone know how I can get a copy of this pamphlet in paper or
electronic.

Best regards
Thomas Fuerth
Stockholm
Sweden

Reseaching FUERTH, Susice and Kolesovice, ENGEL, Libomysl and Prague,
HELLER, Orakov, Kolesovice and Zatec, STERN, Kardasova Recice, Trebon and
Svihov, STERN, Mylskovice, LEINER, Blsany, WEINER, Klatovy and Strazov,
GROSSMANN, Police and Vienna, JANOWSKY, Janovice and Prague, POPPER,
Bresnice and Pragaue and DUSCHENES, Bresnice and Prague

Dear Siggers,
Robert Sheps writes
" We had been told that the Jewish Community in Prague occasionally sent
someone out to clean it, but the frequency clearly isn't adequate. Has
anyone had experience of hiring local people to clear and maintain
cemeteries on a regular basis?"
My understanding is that if the cemetery belongs to the Jewish community of
Prague they employ a firm to look after it.
Mr Mojmir Maly, whose company Matana a.s. is responsible for the management
and upkeep of Jewish cemeteries and real estate owned by the Jewish
Community in Prague and by the Federation of Jewish Communities in the Czech
Republic.
tel. +420 272 734 004, fax : +420 272 734 609, e-mail : sbh@... Matana
a.s. (address: Mala Stupartska 1, 110 00 Prague 1 )

Regards,
Daniela Torsh
Sydney Australia

Dear Siggers,
Robert Sheps writes
" We had been told that the Jewish Community in Prague occasionally sent
someone out to clean it, but the frequency clearly isn't adequate. Has
anyone had experience of hiring local people to clear and maintain
cemeteries on a regular basis?"
My understanding is that if the cemetery belongs to the Jewish community of
Prague they employ a firm to look after it.
Mr Mojmir Maly, whose company Matana a.s. is responsible for the management
and upkeep of Jewish cemeteries and real estate owned by the Jewish
Community in Prague and by the Federation of Jewish Communities in the Czech
Republic.
tel. +420 272 734 004, fax : +420 272 734 609, e-mail : sbh@... Matana
a.s. (address: Mala Stupartska 1, 110 00 Prague 1 )

Regards,
Daniela Torsh
Sydney Australia

With reference to B. Shiel's query about Federation
shuls in the East End, in most cases people lived
within easy walking of a large number of shuls.
Accordingly, there would not normally be a catchment
area, and a person would generally attend the
congregation most suited to the his preference or
background (e.g. coming >from the same area of Eastern
Europe, or to which his father had belonged).

The JCR-UK website contains a listing East End shuls
according to the street address
(http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/east-end_addresses.htm),
as well as a list of all Federation shuls
(http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/london_aff.htm#federation)

David Shulman
Joint Webmaster - JCR-UK

With reference to B. Shiel's query about Federation
shuls in the East End, in most cases people lived
within easy walking of a large number of shuls.
Accordingly, there would not normally be a catchment
area, and a person would generally attend the
congregation most suited to the his preference or
background (e.g. coming >from the same area of Eastern
Europe, or to which his father had belonged).

The JCR-UK website contains a listing East End shuls
according to the street address
(http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/east-end_addresses.htm),
as well as a list of all Federation shuls
(http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/London/london_aff.htm#federation)

David Shulman
Joint Webmaster - JCR-UK