Jewish genealogists are constantly asking themselves >from whence
their ancestors came. How many times have we read things like: "I am
convinced my family came >from another planet!" Sometimes wild leaps
of imagination are required to discover where the family was before
they were finally found, and where they were before that.

Come to the Third Annual Israel Genealogical Society One Day Seminar
and turn that sigh into a "Eureka, I have found them!" This year we
are focusing on "The Wandering Jew: Jewish Migration Between the 18th
and 20th Centuries." We have an incredible group of excellent and
knowledgeable lecturers >from around the world. Lectures will be both
in Hebrew and in English in parallel sessions.

Visit our website for exact details:

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2007/index.html

While there, download the program in Hebrew or in English and be sure
to print out and mail in the registration form. Seating is limited!
You must register early to be assured of a place. Early registration
ends on 1 November.

Save the day: Monday, 12 November 2007, and join us for this fabulous
all day seminar!

Martha Lev-Zion
for the organizing committee

Jewish genealogists are constantly asking themselves >from whence
their ancestors came. How many times have we read things like: "I am
convinced my family came >from another planet!" Sometimes wild leaps
of imagination are required to discover where the family was before
they were finally found, and where they were before that.

Come to the Third Annual Israel Genealogical Society One Day Seminar
and turn that sigh into a "Eureka, I have found them!" This year we
are focusing on "The Wandering Jew: Jewish Migration Between the 18th
and 20th Centuries." We have an incredible group of excellent and
knowledgeable lecturers >from around the world. Lectures will be both
in Hebrew and in English in parallel sessions.

Visit our website for exact details:

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2007/index.html

While there, download the program in Hebrew or in English and be sure
to print out and mail in the registration form. Seating is limited!
You must register early to be assured of a place. Early registration
ends on 1 November.

Save the day: Monday, 12 November 2007, and join us for this fabulous
all day seminar!

Martha Lev-Zion
for the organizing committee

Jewish genealogists are constantly asking themselves >from whence
their ancestors came. How many times have we read things like: "I am
convinced my family came >from another planet!" Sometimes wild leaps
of imagination are required to discover where the family was before
they were finally found, and where they were before that.

Come to the Third Annual Israel Genealogical Society One Day Seminar
and turn that sigh into a "Eureka, I have found them!" This year we
are focusing on THE WANDERING JEW: JEWISH MIGRATION BETWEEN THE 18th
and 20th CENTURIES. We have an incredible group of excellent and
knowledgeable lecturers >from around the world. Lectures will be both
in Hebrew and in English in parallel sessions.

Visit our website for exact details:

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2007/index.html

While there, download the program in Hebrew or in English and be sure
to print out and mail in the registration form. Seating is limited!
You must register early to be assured of a place. Early registration
ends on 1 November.

Save the day: Monday, 12 November 2007, and join us for this fabulous
all day seminar!

Martha Lev-Zion
for the organizing committee

Jewish genealogists are constantly asking themselves >from whence
their ancestors came. How many times have we read things like: "I am
convinced my family came >from another planet!" Sometimes wild leaps
of imagination are required to discover where the family was before
they were finally found, and where they were before that.

Come to the Third Annual Israel Genealogical Society One Day Seminar
and turn that sigh into a "Eureka, I have found them!" This year we
are focusing on THE WANDERING JEW: JEWISH MIGRATION BETWEEN THE 18th
and 20th CENTURIES. We have an incredible group of excellent and
knowledgeable lecturers >from around the world. Lectures will be both
in Hebrew and in English in parallel sessions.

Visit our website for exact details:

http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2007/index.html

While there, download the program in Hebrew or in English and be sure
to print out and mail in the registration form. Seating is limited!
You must register early to be assured of a place. Early registration
ends on 1 November.

Save the day: Monday, 12 November 2007, and join us for this fabulous
all day seminar!

Martha Lev-Zion
for the organizing committee

Larry Freund wrote on 25 sep 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

I recently received some documents >from France indicating that a
likely kin was born in 1889 in Bartenoff/Bartinoff, "Russia" (somehow
connected with Vitebsk). The Shtetl Seeker and Family Finder weren't
able to identify a town even close to that spelling, ditto for a list
of Belarus towns, and a query to the Belarus SIG was minimally
productive. So -- casting the net a bit wider -- has anyone ever heard
of a town in Russia/Belarus with a spelling close to "Bartenoff"
(again, a place, not a person)? Many thanks.

"The Seeker" finds:

Bardenevo, Berdunovo, Bertenevo, Borodinov, Bortenevo, Bortnevo, Bortnevo,
Bortnovo, Bratanovo, Portnov, Portyanovo, Prudnovo in Russia

And if that is not close enough, look at the neigbouring countries
that could have been part of Russia:

Bartonov in Czechia,
Brudnów, Brudnów, Brudnowo, Pordenowo, Wrotnów in Poland
Berdynovo, Bortnów, Bortnuv, Vorotnëv, Vorotnyuv in the Ukraine

All those places did not have an official Latin spelling.
--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Larry Freund wrote on 25 sep 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

I recently received some documents >from France indicating that a
likely kin was born in 1889 in Bartenoff/Bartinoff, "Russia" (somehow
connected with Vitebsk). The Shtetl Seeker and Family Finder weren't
able to identify a town even close to that spelling, ditto for a list
of Belarus towns, and a query to the Belarus SIG was minimally
productive. So -- casting the net a bit wider -- has anyone ever heard
of a town in Russia/Belarus with a spelling close to "Bartenoff"
(again, a place, not a person)? Many thanks.

"The Seeker" finds:

Bardenevo, Berdunovo, Bertenevo, Borodinov, Bortenevo, Bortnevo, Bortnevo,
Bortnovo, Bratanovo, Portnov, Portyanovo, Prudnovo in Russia

And if that is not close enough, look at the neigbouring countries
that could have been part of Russia:

Bartonov in Czechia,
Brudnów, Brudnów, Brudnowo, Pordenowo, Wrotnów in Poland
Berdynovo, Bortnów, Bortnuv, Vorotnëv, Vorotnyuv in the Ukraine

All those places did not have an official Latin spelling.
--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

The organizers of the annual Conference (Chicago, August 17-22, 2008)
have demanded that we submit detailed plans for GerSIG activities at
that event not later than 5 November 2007.

The 5 GerSIG Coordinators including Werner Frank who usually manages
our Conference events and Research Director Roger Lustig who may
assist with these events now have already begun to consider these matters.

from the 1455 other GerSIG members we now ask for ideas.

GerSIG usually sets all meetings and our luncheon for Monday- the
first full Conference day. This is to allow folks who first meet at
our meetings to have maximum time to continue discussions and mutual research.

We have been offered a "half day SIG block" of time for GerSIG
business. " These SIG blocks should be used to schedule your annual
meeting, lectures and other SIG programming." the organizers say. I
suspect we will request either Monday morning or Monday afternoon.
JRI Poland has already set Sunday meetings.

I imagine that we will set our luncheon for Monday also (12:15 - 2:15 p.m.).

"Birds of a Feather" (BOF) meetings are gatherings of smaller groups
who share an interest in a specific time, place or research subject.

The efficient (if not overly friendly) conference organizers had this
to day about planning BOF meetings:

"ALL BOFs requesting time for meetings will be allowed a standard time
slot of 1 hour 15 minutes. While many BOF's have regions that may be
covered during a SIG time block it is critical that the BOF leadership
submit their application for a time slot as soon as possible. The
Program Committee will try to schedule most of the BOF meetings during
the early morning or late afternoon slots in an attempt to avoid
conflicts with the SIGs. The form for requests will be sent to BOFs in
October 2007 and the deadline for receiving responses is November 5,
2007. The assignments will be on a "first come, first served basis".
After all of the time slots are filled no other time slots will be allowed."

As they did last year, the IAJGS organizers are offering SIGs help in
bringing expert speakers to Chicago 2008. GerSIG's Coordinators are
rounding up and discussing all the obvious suspects but will certainly
be happy to learn of a less obvious qualified candidate.

Chicago 2008 should be a very good meeting. As I've written, Chicago
is a uniquely convenient travel destination by air, rail, road and
even boat. I urge all GerSIG members to consider attending and those
who are likely to attend to help us plan a great GerSIG program.

John Paul Lowens, former Illinois resident, now GerSIG Coordinator and MOD 1

The organizers of the annual Conference (Chicago, August 17-22, 2008)
have demanded that we submit detailed plans for GerSIG activities at
that event not later than 5 November 2007.

The 5 GerSIG Coordinators including Werner Frank who usually manages
our Conference events and Research Director Roger Lustig who may
assist with these events now have already begun to consider these matters.

from the 1455 other GerSIG members we now ask for ideas.

GerSIG usually sets all meetings and our luncheon for Monday- the
first full Conference day. This is to allow folks who first meet at
our meetings to have maximum time to continue discussions and mutual research.

We have been offered a "half day SIG block" of time for GerSIG
business. " These SIG blocks should be used to schedule your annual
meeting, lectures and other SIG programming." the organizers say. I
suspect we will request either Monday morning or Monday afternoon.
JRI Poland has already set Sunday meetings.

I imagine that we will set our luncheon for Monday also (12:15 - 2:15 p.m.).

"Birds of a Feather" (BOF) meetings are gatherings of smaller groups
who share an interest in a specific time, place or research subject.

The efficient (if not overly friendly) conference organizers had this
to day about planning BOF meetings:

"ALL BOFs requesting time for meetings will be allowed a standard time
slot of 1 hour 15 minutes. While many BOF's have regions that may be
covered during a SIG time block it is critical that the BOF leadership
submit their application for a time slot as soon as possible. The
Program Committee will try to schedule most of the BOF meetings during
the early morning or late afternoon slots in an attempt to avoid
conflicts with the SIGs. The form for requests will be sent to BOFs in
October 2007 and the deadline for receiving responses is November 5,
2007. The assignments will be on a "first come, first served basis".
After all of the time slots are filled no other time slots will be allowed."

As they did last year, the IAJGS organizers are offering SIGs help in
bringing expert speakers to Chicago 2008. GerSIG's Coordinators are
rounding up and discussing all the obvious suspects but will certainly
be happy to learn of a less obvious qualified candidate.

Chicago 2008 should be a very good meeting. As I've written, Chicago
is a uniquely convenient travel destination by air, rail, road and
even boat. I urge all GerSIG members to consider attending and those
who are likely to attend to help us plan a great GerSIG program.

John Paul Lowens, former Illinois resident, now GerSIG Coordinator and MOD 1

The yearly international meeting on Jewish Genealogy will be held in
Chicago starting Sunday, 17 August, 2008. Information is always
available at the IAJGS website: http://www.iajgs.org/index.shtml

Our many members who are new to Jewish Genealogy should read the basic
information section at the end of this message.

All GerSIG members may be particularly interested in the Chicago 2008
meeting for the following and other reasons:

1. Chicago has not been the meeting location since 1984.

2. Chicago is an easy and inexpensive travel destination, especially
>from US and Canada.

3. Research opportunities in Chicago will be described by the
Conference organizers. There are many resources there, some are
unique to that city.

4. The Chicago area offers many attractions for visitors not involved
in Jewish Genealogy. It has many big city advantages but is
relatively visitor friendly. Unlike New York, Chicago is
still manageable by automobile. Unlike the waters around Manhattan,
Lake Michigan is very hospitable for sailing and other water sports.
Museums, cultural activities and international dining opportunities are
abundant and excellent.

Other features of the "Chcagoland area" should be noted in followup
emails >from GerSIG members.

--------------

In a separate posting to this list, I will discuss GerSIG meeting
options for Chicago 2008. The deadline for scheduling all of our
meetings is 5 November.

--------------

For those new to Jewish Genealogy, the yearly conferences offer a
wonderful opportunity to do research and exchange information with
veteran experts, other novices, and specialists on all aspects of
family history research.

Most organizations of Jewish Genealogists hold their annual meetings
at the conference. This provides all visitors with a human catalogue
of people, groups and special interest experts >from around the
world. A Jewish Genealogy beginner can gather more research leads
during a 5 day conference than in 5 months of mail exchange and
Internet browsing.

For experienced genealogists who are new to **Jewish** Genealogy, the
Conference offers an intensive immersion in the special problems and
techniques required for research on Jewish families.

GerSIG will be active in Chicago >from 17 - 22 August, 2008. Messages
to follow will provide details.

John Paul Lowens, GerSIG Coordinator gerSIGmod@...

The yearly international meeting on Jewish Genealogy will be held in
Chicago starting Sunday, 17 August, 2008. Information is always
available at the IAJGS website: http://www.iajgs.org/index.shtml

Our many members who are new to Jewish Genealogy should read the basic
information section at the end of this message.

All GerSIG members may be particularly interested in the Chicago 2008
meeting for the following and other reasons:

1. Chicago has not been the meeting location since 1984.

2. Chicago is an easy and inexpensive travel destination, especially
>from US and Canada.

3. Research opportunities in Chicago will be described by the
Conference organizers. There are many resources there, some are
unique to that city.

4. The Chicago area offers many attractions for visitors not involved
in Jewish Genealogy. It has many big city advantages but is
relatively visitor friendly. Unlike New York, Chicago is
still manageable by automobile. Unlike the waters around Manhattan,
Lake Michigan is very hospitable for sailing and other water sports.
Museums, cultural activities and international dining opportunities are
abundant and excellent.

Other features of the "Chcagoland area" should be noted in followup
emails >from GerSIG members.

--------------

In a separate posting to this list, I will discuss GerSIG meeting
options for Chicago 2008. The deadline for scheduling all of our
meetings is 5 November.

--------------

For those new to Jewish Genealogy, the yearly conferences offer a
wonderful opportunity to do research and exchange information with
veteran experts, other novices, and specialists on all aspects of
family history research.

Most organizations of Jewish Genealogists hold their annual meetings
at the conference. This provides all visitors with a human catalogue
of people, groups and special interest experts >from around the
world. A Jewish Genealogy beginner can gather more research leads
during a 5 day conference than in 5 months of mail exchange and
Internet browsing.

For experienced genealogists who are new to **Jewish** Genealogy, the
Conference offers an intensive immersion in the special problems and
techniques required for research on Jewish families.

GerSIG will be active in Chicago >from 17 - 22 August, 2008. Messages
to follow will provide details.

John Paul Lowens, GerSIG Coordinator gerSIGmod@...

I am searching for any descendants of two sisters who came to Argentina

from Ukraine in early 1900s. Their maiden name was SCHIEVITZ. Their

married names are unknown.

Their father was Joshua and mother was Faige-Clare. Their sister,
Esther, immigrated to Montreal and married Sam Witenoff.

I've tried Grupo Reunir who unfortunately could not find any information.

I am planning a trip to Argentina in the winter time and was hoping to
be reunited with lost family members.

Thanks,
Corey Samuels
New York, NY

I am searching for any descendants of two sisters who came to Argentina

from Ukraine in early 1900s. Their maiden name was SCHIEVITZ. Their

married names are unknown.

Their father was Joshua and mother was Faige-Clare. Their sister,
Esther, immigrated to Montreal and married Sam Witenoff.

I've tried Grupo Reunir who unfortunately could not find any information.

I am planning a trip to Argentina in the winter time and was hoping to
be reunited with lost family members.

Thanks,
Corey Samuels
New York, NY

Looking for:

Edna/Eva FARKAS/FARKASH submitter of POT for Geier Katarina,Bratislava in 1999
Fania SKOPAL submitter POT for Geier/Gajer Zigmunt,Malacka in 1957

Shulamit Spain-Gayer

Researching: HERNBAL,RAUCH,KIEFERBAUM, BAIGEL,BACZES >from Lvov and
GEIER/GAYER >from Kiripolcz/Malacka

Looking for:

Edna/Eva FARKAS/FARKASH submitter of POT for Geier Katarina,Bratislava in 1999
Fania SKOPAL submitter POT for Geier/Gajer Zigmunt,Malacka in 1957

Shulamit Spain-Gayer

Researching: HERNBAL,RAUCH,KIEFERBAUM, BAIGEL,BACZES >from Lvov and
GEIER/GAYER >from Kiripolcz/Malacka

I also had a very positive experience with the folks at Mt Zion cemetery
in Maspeth.

I was able to search their on line database and locate the graves of my
grandparents, who unfortunately, are not together.

I paid the cemetery to take photos of each, which they did very
promptly.....They also included some additional information, which was my
grandmother's death certificate #, and the fact that my grandfather had died
in upstate NY (which I knew), but also that his death record was filed in
Albany County, which I would never have known.

When I ordered my grandmother's death certificate >from NYC Vital Records, I
found the name of the funeral home, her age, and both of her parents names,
which allowed me to add another generation to my family tree.

I had a very pleasant conversation with the folks at Mt Zion, and they were
both extremely helpful, and very kind........

Sincerely,

Donna Kofsky
donnak01@...

I also had a very positive experience with the folks at Mt Zion cemetery
in Maspeth.

I was able to search their on line database and locate the graves of my
grandparents, who unfortunately, are not together.

I paid the cemetery to take photos of each, which they did very
promptly.....They also included some additional information, which was my
grandmother's death certificate #, and the fact that my grandfather had died
in upstate NY (which I knew), but also that his death record was filed in
Albany County, which I would never have known.

When I ordered my grandmother's death certificate >from NYC Vital Records, I
found the name of the funeral home, her age, and both of her parents names,
which allowed me to add another generation to my family tree.

I had a very pleasant conversation with the folks at Mt Zion, and they were
both extremely helpful, and very kind........

Sincerely,

Donna Kofsky
donnak01@...

Hello -

I just joined this discussion group because I have found some solid
evidence that my Great Great Grandfather Louis (Chaim Yitzcok Leib)
ROSENBERG was born in Finland ca Aug. 1864 to Nathan ROSENBERG and
Ruth FELDSTEIN. There has been a lot of family lore that we had roots
in Scandanavia, but Louis' death certificate indicates that he was
born in "Finland, Russia". I am guessing that Nathan was most likely a
Russian solider and not Nathan's father (Unknown at this point).

Louis married Gittel Raisel "Rae" BREZINSKY(? no evidence of her
maiden name other than family history so spelling or even the name
could be wrong) before 1888 in Finland and their daughter Frances
"Fannie" ROSENBERG was born ca 1888 there prior to their coming to NYC
ca 1889.

I only have Louis and Gittel's 1920 Census and his death certificate
to date. I have not been able to find immigration or naturalization
information or other census years to date.

To this point in all of my research on any of the lines, I have not
started research in Europe because it seems so overwhelming, but since
the Jewish community in Finland at that time was very small it seems
like it might be a good place to start. Any suggestions on how to
start/where to start are most welcome. If any of these names strike a
chord with other research please contact me.

Best-
Erica Epstein-Calleia
NYC

Searching:
BREZINSKY (All possible spellings); EHRENWALD; EPSTEIN; FEDER:
Belarus; GAVITON/GAVATON; KARP: Galicia, L'viv, Ukraine; LIPOFSKY:
Belarus; REICHENTHAL; ROSENBERG: Finland, New York; ROSENTHAL

Hello -

I just joined this discussion group because I have found some solid
evidence that my Great Great Grandfather Louis (Chaim Yitzcok Leib)
ROSENBERG was born in Finland ca Aug. 1864 to Nathan ROSENBERG and
Ruth FELDSTEIN. There has been a lot of family lore that we had roots
in Scandanavia, but Louis' death certificate indicates that he was
born in "Finland, Russia". I am guessing that Nathan was most likely a
Russian solider and not Nathan's father (Unknown at this point).

Louis married Gittel Raisel "Rae" BREZINSKY(? no evidence of her
maiden name other than family history so spelling or even the name
could be wrong) before 1888 in Finland and their daughter Frances
"Fannie" ROSENBERG was born ca 1888 there prior to their coming to NYC
ca 1889.

I only have Louis and Gittel's 1920 Census and his death certificate
to date. I have not been able to find immigration or naturalization
information or other census years to date.

To this point in all of my research on any of the lines, I have not
started research in Europe because it seems so overwhelming, but since
the Jewish community in Finland at that time was very small it seems
like it might be a good place to start. Any suggestions on how to
start/where to start are most welcome. If any of these names strike a
chord with other research please contact me.

Best-
Erica Epstein-Calleia
NYC

Searching:
BREZINSKY (All possible spellings); EHRENWALD; EPSTEIN; FEDER:
Belarus; GAVITON/GAVATON; KARP: Galicia, L'viv, Ukraine; LIPOFSKY:
Belarus; REICHENTHAL; ROSENBERG: Finland, New York; ROSENTHAL

If, already at this early date, you have a preference for the day/time of
the Danzig SIG meeting at the 2008 IAJGS Conference in Chicago, Aug 17-22,
or if you know you will attend the conference, please contact me by Oct 7.
We must soon request a slot >from the conference organizers.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.

If, already at this early date, you have a preference for the day/time of
the Danzig SIG meeting at the 2008 IAJGS Conference in Chicago, Aug 17-22,
or if you know you will attend the conference, please contact me by Oct 7.
We must soon request a slot >from the conference organizers.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
Coordinator, JewishGen Danzig/Gdansk SIG
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.