The inquiry seems to be a wild goose chase since no specific information is
provided and the death occurred in the 1920's.

Probably the person representing the deceased's estate contacted the family
for instructions on what to do with the property which had been willed to
them.

I am assuming that when the family refused to collect anything that the
property was disposed of as is usually the case. The family could have
asked for the book to be sent to them by mail, but it seems that they did
not do that.

The book in question would probably have been sold or something similar and
is untraceable at this point, especially since no family name is known.

If specific information were available, I would have suggested looking for
the deceased's estate (will) record in the SA National Archives. Then, if
it were available, getting a copy to see what property was mentioned.

My great uncle's estate mentioned specific things including a gold watch,
amounts of coinage, etc., and who they were to go to.

Also, Dr. Gold can always look for the records of his known family who lived
in SA and died during the 1920's if he has that information in both the SA
National Archives and the RootsWeb sites.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

The inquiry seems to be a wild goose chase since no specific information is
provided and the death occurred in the 1920's.

Probably the person representing the deceased's estate contacted the family
for instructions on what to do with the property which had been willed to
them.

I am assuming that when the family refused to collect anything that the
property was disposed of as is usually the case. The family could have
asked for the book to be sent to them by mail, but it seems that they did
not do that.

The book in question would probably have been sold or something similar and
is untraceable at this point, especially since no family name is known.

If specific information were available, I would have suggested looking for
the deceased's estate (will) record in the SA National Archives. Then, if
it were available, getting a copy to see what property was mentioned.

My great uncle's estate mentioned specific things including a gold watch,
amounts of coinage, etc., and who they were to go to.

Also, Dr. Gold can always look for the records of his known family who lived
in SA and died during the 1920's if he has that information in both the SA
National Archives and the RootsWeb sites.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

If anyone lives near or is planning to visit Cedar Park Cemetery in
Paramus, New Jersey, I would like to know about the possibility of
having a photograph taken of a tombstone therein.

Please reply privately.

Best regards,

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France

Researching ZHEZMER, KANTOR and SZENWALD in Czestochowa and region

If anyone lives near or is planning to visit Cedar Park Cemetery in
Paramus, New Jersey, I would like to know about the possibility of
having a photograph taken of a tombstone therein.

Please reply privately.

Best regards,

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France

Researching ZHEZMER, KANTOR and SZENWALD in Czestochowa and region

Any ideas of how to find out which DP camp a survivor was in?
The man was originally >from Pinczow, was is a DP camp near Munich
and then went to Italy. Knowing the DP camp seems to open lots
of research avenues. We checked the JewishGen databases --
any other ideas?

Tova Jaffe
Washington DC

Any ideas of how to find out which DP camp a survivor was in?
The man was originally >from Pinczow, was is a DP camp near Munich
and then went to Italy. Knowing the DP camp seems to open lots
of research avenues. We checked the JewishGen databases --
any other ideas?

Tova Jaffe
Washington DC

It's possible that the title of the group is somewhat off-putting. Many of
us have relatives who were active in theatre but were better known (even to
their descendants) for their work in mainstream theatre.
For example, my g-uncle Joseph Lance (Lewin) was active on B'way for many
years and I'm sure got his start in Yiddish theatre, but it's all but
impossible to find any record of his work there so far.
Hank Levine
Boynton beach fl

Moderator's Note:
1. Messages are posted for any member seeking information about people "possibly"
associated with the Yiddish entertainment medium, even if their fame came >from
non-Yiddish endeavors.
2. Jonina Duker, the founder and coordinator of the group, noted that the YT&V was
founded to help people seeking individuals and doing research on the not-as-well
documented Yiddish entertainment field. Both Broadway and Hollywood seem better
documented and more accesible given English as the source language rather than
Hebrew or Yiddish. That's why we need to connect with each other more and help
more so that fewer of us can say as Hank Levine just did "all but impossible to
find any record of his work there [Yiddish theater]"

It's possible that the title of the group is somewhat off-putting. Many of
us have relatives who were active in theatre but were better known (even to
their descendants) for their work in mainstream theatre.
For example, my g-uncle Joseph Lance (Lewin) was active on B'way for many
years and I'm sure got his start in Yiddish theatre, but it's all but
impossible to find any record of his work there so far.
Hank Levine
Boynton beach fl

Moderator's Note:
1. Messages are posted for any member seeking information about people "possibly"
associated with the Yiddish entertainment medium, even if their fame came >from
non-Yiddish endeavors.
2. Jonina Duker, the founder and coordinator of the group, noted that the YT&V was
founded to help people seeking individuals and doing research on the not-as-well
documented Yiddish entertainment field. Both Broadway and Hollywood seem better
documented and more accesible given English as the source language rather than
Hebrew or Yiddish. That's why we need to connect with each other more and help
more so that fewer of us can say as Hank Levine just did "all but impossible to
find any record of his work there [Yiddish theater]"

Hi,
I wonder if anybody has any information on my father's cousin, Dorothy nee
Rubinstein, actress and librarian, born around 1900, daughter of Avrum Juda and
Golda, widow since around 1948, sister of Jeanette, Sarah, Gertrude, Max,
Maurice and Arthur.
She lived in NY. In 1956 she played a role in "Uncle Willie". I know that they
were also playing in Boston.
I would be grateful for any kind of information about her or her family
Best regards
Barbara Rubinstein

Hi,
I wonder if anybody has any information on my father's cousin, Dorothy nee
Rubinstein, actress and librarian, born around 1900, daughter of Avrum Juda and
Golda, widow since around 1948, sister of Jeanette, Sarah, Gertrude, Max,
Maurice and Arthur.
She lived in NY. In 1956 she played a role in "Uncle Willie". I know that they
were also playing in Boston.
I would be grateful for any kind of information about her or her family
Best regards
Barbara Rubinstein

Hello,

I'm researching my Grandmother's (Gisse GOLOMBORSKI, not sure one the
spelling) family and looking for any details people may have on it. She was
born around July 15, 1882 and came to New York >from Kobrin, Belarus on
December 13, 1907. She was married to Israel ZLOTNIK >from Jonava, Lithuania.
That's all the information I have on her.

Any additional information would be appreciated.

Samuel Harold Glaser
Fairfax, VA
USA
asglaser@...

Researching:
GOLDBACH (Bohemia);
SCHLINGER (Romania and Hungary);
GLASER (Sassmachen, Courland);
ZLOTNIK (Jonava, Lithuania);
GOLOMBORSKI (Kobrin, Belarus)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately

Hello,

I'm researching my Grandmother's (Gisse GOLOMBORSKI, not sure one the
spelling) family and looking for any details people may have on it. She was
born around July 15, 1882 and came to New York >from Kobrin, Belarus on
December 13, 1907. She was married to Israel ZLOTNIK >from Jonava, Lithuania.
That's all the information I have on her.

Any additional information would be appreciated.

Samuel Harold Glaser
Fairfax, VA
USA
asglaser@...

Researching:
GOLDBACH (Bohemia);
SCHLINGER (Romania and Hungary);
GLASER (Sassmachen, Courland);
ZLOTNIK (Jonava, Lithuania);
GOLOMBORSKI (Kobrin, Belarus)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately

If anyone lives near or is planning to visit Cedar Park Cemetery in
Paramus, New Jersey, I would like to know about the possibility of
having a photograph taken of a tombstone therein.

Please reply privately.

Best regards,

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France

Researching ZHEZMER and MARGOLIN

If anyone lives near or is planning to visit Cedar Park Cemetery in
Paramus, New Jersey, I would like to know about the possibility of
having a photograph taken of a tombstone therein.

Please reply privately.

Best regards,

Amos Zezmer
Yerres, France

Researching ZHEZMER and MARGOLIN

Hi Genners

I am looking for the DASSA family >from Bat Yam in relation to a memorial notice
in the Jewish Chronicle in October 1988 relating to their friend Olive GOULD ne
STILLMAN originally >from Merseyside.

Olive was married to Philip GOULD in 1947, and had children Susan and Miles. She
passed away unfortunately in 1988. According to the notice in the JC her daughter
Susan may have been married to Albert and their children are Regine and Mandy.

If anyone is familiar with this family I would be grateful if they could contact
me, as I believe that Olive would have been my grandfathers first cousin.

Thanks as always

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln; FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk, Latvia; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; Zeyder/Zeidler: Kursan, Lithuania

Hi Genners

I am looking for the DASSA family >from Bat Yam in relation to a memorial notice
in the Jewish Chronicle in October 1988 relating to their friend Olive GOULD ne
STILLMAN originally >from Merseyside.

Olive was married to Philip GOULD in 1947, and had children Susan and Miles. She
passed away unfortunately in 1988. According to the notice in the JC her daughter
Susan may have been married to Albert and their children are Regine and Mandy.

If anyone is familiar with this family I would be grateful if they could contact
me, as I believe that Olive would have been my grandfathers first cousin.

Thanks as always

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln; FURMAN: Kaluszyn;
GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk, Latvia; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; Zeyder/Zeidler: Kursan, Lithuania

Hello. This is my first query on this site. I'm trying to find information
on my grandparents' (father's side) ancestry in Russia prior to their
immigration to New York. Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Here's
what I know:

Grandfather: Saul SILVER (original could have been SILBERSKY or SILBERSKI)
Birth Year: About 1877
Birth Place: Russia (probably Lithuania)
Immigration Year/Place: 1894, New York
Home in 1900 Census: Manhattan, NY
Home in 1910 Census: Brooklyn Ward, NY
Year Deceased: About 1920
Children: Jacob Edward, Harriet, Herman

Grandmother: Rose Silver
Maiden Name: LUBELL
Birth Year: About 1878
Birth Place: Russia (probably Lithuania)
Immigration Year/Place: 1891, New York
Home in 1910 Census: Brooklyn Ward, NY
Home in 1930 Census: Jersey City, NJ
Year Deceased: Unknown (probably after 1960)
Children: Jacob Edward, Harriet, Herman

Great Aunt: Sadie Lubell (Sister of Rose)
Birth Year: About 1898
Birth Place: Russia (probably Lithuania)
Immigration Year/Place: Year Unknown. Probably New York
Home in 1930 Census: Jersey City, NJ
Year Deceased: Unknown

Steve Silver
steve.silver@...

Hello. This is my first query on this site. I'm trying to find information
on my grandparents' (father's side) ancestry in Russia prior to their
immigration to New York. Anyone's help would be greatly appreciated. Here's
what I know:

Grandfather: Saul SILVER (original could have been SILBERSKY or SILBERSKI)
Birth Year: About 1877
Birth Place: Russia (probably Lithuania)
Immigration Year/Place: 1894, New York
Home in 1900 Census: Manhattan, NY
Home in 1910 Census: Brooklyn Ward, NY
Year Deceased: About 1920
Children: Jacob Edward, Harriet, Herman

Grandmother: Rose Silver
Maiden Name: LUBELL
Birth Year: About 1878
Birth Place: Russia (probably Lithuania)
Immigration Year/Place: 1891, New York
Home in 1910 Census: Brooklyn Ward, NY
Home in 1930 Census: Jersey City, NJ
Year Deceased: Unknown (probably after 1960)
Children: Jacob Edward, Harriet, Herman

Great Aunt: Sadie Lubell (Sister of Rose)
Birth Year: About 1898
Birth Place: Russia (probably Lithuania)
Immigration Year/Place: Year Unknown. Probably New York
Home in 1930 Census: Jersey City, NJ
Year Deceased: Unknown

Steve Silver
steve.silver@...

Dear Carole and Maury,

The phenomenon of old family siddurim, etc. inadvertently donated to synagogue
libraries by owners who did not realize that invaluable family information was
listed therein is probably widespread. Some years ago I tried to track down an
18th-century Haggadah in which my mid-19th-century ancestors had recorded the
names of their nine children and also those of six of their Australian-born
grandchildren. I contacted in London the branch of the family believed to be
currently in possession of this book, only to learn that an aunt had donated all
the Hebrew books some years before to a local synagogue. But inquiries there
failed to track down the Haggadah (which was almost certainly taken by synagogue
authorities to the cemetery for burial); and I fear this will have been the fate
of almost every old prayer-book that Jgenners may be seeking today.

I was luckier than most, however, in that the existence of this Haggadah (and
more importantly the list of family names contained therein) came to my attention
through a 1945 letter written by an early Anglo-Jewish genealogist, which was
published in 1950 in the Australian Jewish Historical Society Journal. Without
that piece of good fortune, I would have got absolutely nowhere in tracking down
my forebears -- especially those who emigrated Down Under in the mid-19th
century. But thanks to the serendipitous publication of the names listed in that
old Haggadah, I was able to identify and trace in detail the antipodean
wanderings of my great-grandfather John MARKS, his siblings and their COLLINS
cousins (whose histories I have documented in an article to be published next
month in the forthcoming issue of the AJHS Journal).

Re Maury's point about the Cairo Geniza (Genizah being Hebrew for "cache"), this
treasure trove of old Hebrew books and letters includes both Hebrew and Arabic-
language documents (many letters were written in Arabic language but customarily
rendered in Hebrew alphabet letters -- which explains why they were stored in the
store-room of the old Fustat synagogue near Cairo for some five centuries instead
of being thrown out. After 1400, the cache seems to have been forgotten for 500
years until its discovery by Solomon Schechter in 1898; so even though many of
the documents had remained in place for 1,000 years, the actual period covered
was only about 500 years (though at least one document was later identified as a
medieval copy of a previously unknown ancient document that remained unidentified
until the mid-20th century discovery and decipherment of the Dead Sea Scrolls!)

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@...

Many thanks to everyone who kindly replied to my question, I received many
different ideas, and one or two which really helped me to find some more
information. I have now carried out some extensive searches based on the
help given to me, and have found Kewell Jacobs, in 1875 marrying Sophia
Cohen, in Prestwich, Lancashire, and this time he calls himself Kevald
Jacobs. Although I'm not quite certain as to the origin of Kevald, I can try
my good friend Google, and now send for the marriage certificate, which will
hopefully take me a bit further back. I note that the oldest son is called
Benjamin, so hopefully that is a clue for perhaps Kevald's fathers or
Grandfathers name.

Again, thanks to all.

Kind regards,

Nick Rich
Birmingham
UK

RICH, RYDZ, JELENKIEWICZ, EIMAN/EYMAN - Slesin and Konin, Kalisz Guburnia.
BLOOMBERG/BLUMBERG/BLOMBERG - Riga, Latvia.
PIZAR/PIZER - Poland/Russia.