Hi Andi
Here in Argentina you have a very well known ALPEROVICH. He is JOSE ALPEROVICH
and is the governor in a province named Tucuman. He is a jewish man. You
can look for him at Google. Good luck,

Clara Turkenicz
Buenos Aires-Argentina
claraturkenicz@...




Subject: ALPEROVICH Family Tree Project Gets Underway

I'm pretty sure that all of the Alperoviches alive today are related to each
other.

If you have an Alperovich/Alpert family tree, please email it to me.

Kind regards,
Andi Alpert Ziegelman
andi@...

Hi Andi
Here in Argentina you have a very well known ALPEROVICH. He is JOSE ALPEROVICH
and is the governor in a province named Tucuman. He is a jewish man. You
can look for him at Google. Good luck,

Clara Turkenicz
Buenos Aires-Argentina
claraturkenicz@...




Subject: ALPEROVICH Family Tree Project Gets Underway

I'm pretty sure that all of the Alperoviches alive today are related to each
other.

If you have an Alperovich/Alpert family tree, please email it to me.

Kind regards,
Andi Alpert Ziegelman
andi@...

JewishGen's parent organization, the Museum of Jewish Heritage: A
Living Memorial to the Holocaust will present "Catskills on Film", a
panel of film-makers moderated by Phil Brown (Catskills Institute, now at
Brown U., as in Brown's Hotel). Fee. Lower Manhattan. Wednesday, 24
Oct. 2007 * 13 Cheshvan 5758, 7:00 PM. For more information
www.mjhnyc.org
Jonina Duker: BEIDICK (~Minsk), DUKER (~Minsk), GOLDBERG & GORODINSKY
(Minsk), KATZ (Riga?), LEVINE (~Minsk?), RACHMAN (Salakas/Simferopol),
RYMER, SCHMUELIWITZ (~ Minsk?), SIEGEL (Uzpaliai), STRAUSS (Vilna?) & and
for her descendant ARLICK (Ashmyany), BARNA (Satu Mare), FRIEDLER
(Salgotarjan), GOLDSTEIN, LICHTMAN (Csenger/Satu Mare), LITZKY
(Golshany), RAPAPORT (Kemenesmihalyfa), SCHLESINGER

JewishGen's parent organization, the Museum of Jewish Heritage: A
Living Memorial to the Holocaust will present "Catskills on Film", a
panel of film-makers moderated by Phil Brown (Catskills Institute, now at
Brown U., as in Brown's Hotel). Fee. Lower Manhattan. Wednesday, 24
Oct. 2007 * 13 Cheshvan 5758, 7:00 PM. For more information
www.mjhnyc.org
Jonina Duker: BEIDICK (~Minsk), DUKER (~Minsk), GOLDBERG & GORODINSKY
(Minsk), KATZ (Riga?), LEVINE (~Minsk?), RACHMAN (Salakas/Simferopol),
RYMER, SCHMUELIWITZ (~ Minsk?), SIEGEL (Uzpaliai), STRAUSS (Vilna?) & and
for her descendant ARLICK (Ashmyany), BARNA (Satu Mare), FRIEDLER
(Salgotarjan), GOLDSTEIN, LICHTMAN (Csenger/Satu Mare), LITZKY
(Golshany), RAPAPORT (Kemenesmihalyfa), SCHLESINGER

The next IAJGS annual seminar will be held in Chicago, August 17 - 22, 2008.
Due to a scheduling conflict I will not be able to attend. David Harris, our
moderator, does not know his schedule yet. Does anyone want to be the person
in charge of either hosting a YTandV BOF meeting or co-hosting if David is able
to attend? If yes, please respond to me privately and we will get the form filled
out for a time slot.
Good Shabbos in advance. Gmar Tov.
Jonina Duker, YTandV founder and coordinator:
BEIDICK (~Minsk), DUKER (~Minsk), GOLDBERG & GORODINSKY (Minsk), KATZ
(Riga?), LEVINE (~Minsk?), RACHMAN (Salakas/Simferopol), RYMER,
SCHMUELIWITZ (~ Minsk?), SIEGEL (Uzpaliai), STRAUSS (Vilna?) & for her
descendant
ARLICK (Ashmyany), BARNA (Satu Mare), FRIEDLER (Salgotarjan), GOLDSTEIN,
LICHTMAN (Csenger/Satu Mare), LITZKY (Golshany), RAPAPORT
(Kemenesmihalyfa), SCHLESINGER

The next IAJGS annual seminar will be held in Chicago, August 17 - 22, 2008.
Due to a scheduling conflict I will not be able to attend. David Harris, our
moderator, does not know his schedule yet. Does anyone want to be the person
in charge of either hosting a YTandV BOF meeting or co-hosting if David is able
to attend? If yes, please respond to me privately and we will get the form filled
out for a time slot.
Good Shabbos in advance. Gmar Tov.
Jonina Duker, YTandV founder and coordinator:
BEIDICK (~Minsk), DUKER (~Minsk), GOLDBERG & GORODINSKY (Minsk), KATZ
(Riga?), LEVINE (~Minsk?), RACHMAN (Salakas/Simferopol), RYMER,
SCHMUELIWITZ (~ Minsk?), SIEGEL (Uzpaliai), STRAUSS (Vilna?) & for her
descendant
ARLICK (Ashmyany), BARNA (Satu Mare), FRIEDLER (Salgotarjan), GOLDSTEIN,
LICHTMAN (Csenger/Satu Mare), LITZKY (Golshany), RAPAPORT
(Kemenesmihalyfa), SCHLESINGER

I wonder can anyone help me ?
On a recent visit to Berlin I visited the Prussian State Archives - and
discovered they have files on the period that most interests me -
New East Prussia and the Jews of the towns that are today are in
Southern Lithuania.

As the extraction needs to be done on the spot - does anyone have the name
of someone who can do this ?
These materials are all in the old German script ! With kindest regards,

Ralph Salinger Kfar Ruppin, Israel <salinger@...>

I wonder can anyone help me ?
On a recent visit to Berlin I visited the Prussian State Archives - and
discovered they have files on the period that most interests me -
New East Prussia and the Jews of the towns that are today are in
Southern Lithuania.

As the extraction needs to be done on the spot - does anyone have the name
of someone who can do this ?
These materials are all in the old German script ! With kindest regards,

Ralph Salinger Kfar Ruppin, Israel <salinger@...>

Can anyone tell me what information U.S. cemeteries collect and keep in
their records regarding the people interred there? If I've found 19th
or 20th century ancestors buried at a New York Jewish cemetery, for
example, what information might I be able to glean >from their records
(and will they look at their records for me)?

-Micah Salb

Can anyone tell me what information U.S. cemeteries collect and keep in
their records regarding the people interred there? If I've found 19th
or 20th century ancestors buried at a New York Jewish cemetery, for
example, what information might I be able to glean >from their records
(and will they look at their records for me)?

-Micah Salb

Jewish genealogists are constantly asking themselves >from whence
their ancestors came. How many times have we read things like: "I am
convinced my family came >from another planet!" Sometimes wild leaps
of imagination are required to discover where the family was before
they were finally found, and where they were before that.

Come to the Third Annual Israel Genealogical Society One Day Seminar
and turn that sigh into a "Eureka, I have found them!" This year we
are focusing on "The Wandering Jew: Jewish Migration Between the
18th and 20th Centuries." We have an incredible group of excellent
and knowledgeable lecturers >from around the world. Lectures will be
both in Hebrew and in English in parallel sessions.

Visit our website for exact details:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2007/index.html

While there, download the program in Hebrew or in English and be
sure to print out and mail in the registration form. Seating is
limited! You must register early to be assured of a place. Early
registration ends on 1 November.

Save the day: Monday, 12 November 2007, and join us for this
fabulous all day seminar!

Billie Stein for the organising committee

[Moderator's Note: Please address any questions privately to the
poster.]

Jewish genealogists are constantly asking themselves >from whence
their ancestors came. How many times have we read things like: "I am
convinced my family came >from another planet!" Sometimes wild leaps
of imagination are required to discover where the family was before
they were finally found, and where they were before that.

Come to the Third Annual Israel Genealogical Society One Day Seminar
and turn that sigh into a "Eureka, I have found them!" This year we
are focusing on "The Wandering Jew: Jewish Migration Between the
18th and 20th Centuries." We have an incredible group of excellent
and knowledgeable lecturers >from around the world. Lectures will be
both in Hebrew and in English in parallel sessions.

Visit our website for exact details:
http://www.isragen.org.il/NROS/YY2007/index.html

While there, download the program in Hebrew or in English and be
sure to print out and mail in the registration form. Seating is
limited! You must register early to be assured of a place. Early
registration ends on 1 November.

Save the day: Monday, 12 November 2007, and join us for this
fabulous all day seminar!

Billie Stein for the organising committee

[Moderator's Note: Please address any questions privately to the
poster.]

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@...> wrote

Larry Freund wrote on 25 sep 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

I recently received some documents >from France indicating that a
likely kin was born in 1889 in Bartenoff/Bartinoff, "Russia" (somehow
connected with Vitebsk). The Shtetl Seeker and Family Finder weren't
able to identify a town even close to that spelling, ditto for a list
of Belarus towns, and a query to the Belarus SIG was minimally
productive. So -- casting the net a bit wider -- has anyone ever heard
of a town in Russia/Belarus with a spelling close to "Bartenoff"
(again, a place, not a person)? Many thanks.

"The Seeker" finds:

Bardenevo, Berdunovo, Bertenevo, Borodinov, Bortenevo, Bortnevo, Bortnevo,
Bortnovo, Bratanovo, Portnov, Portyanovo, Prudnovo in Russia

And if that is not close enough, look at the neigbouring countries
that could have been part of Russia:

Bartonov in Czechia,
Brudnow, Brudnow, Brudnowo, Pordenowo, Wrotnow in Poland
Berdynovo, Bortnów, Bortnuv, Vorotnëv, Vorotnyuv in the Ukraine

All those places did not have an official Latin spelling.

Everjan,

I am afraid that you are confusing researchers by directing them to randomly
picked up town names >from the USBGN (ShtetlSeeker) database.
What is use for the searches in Russia proper where Jews were severly
restricted as the residentsl, or Czechia and Ukraine, when Larry Freund is
tryng to establish town name in Vitebsk region.

Jewish people during 19th century were concentrating only in the certain
regions of the Pale territory, mostly around the larger "Jewish" towns where
they could follow and preserve their traditions and customs.

I am relaying on the Genners to assist researchers in their town quest since
at the end query for the town whereabouts will be ending at the JGFF
Helpdesk, and I will be sweating to find the answer.
--
Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@...> wrote

Larry Freund wrote on 25 sep 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

I recently received some documents >from France indicating that a
likely kin was born in 1889 in Bartenoff/Bartinoff, "Russia" (somehow
connected with Vitebsk). The Shtetl Seeker and Family Finder weren't
able to identify a town even close to that spelling, ditto for a list
of Belarus towns, and a query to the Belarus SIG was minimally
productive. So -- casting the net a bit wider -- has anyone ever heard
of a town in Russia/Belarus with a spelling close to "Bartenoff"
(again, a place, not a person)? Many thanks.

"The Seeker" finds:

Bardenevo, Berdunovo, Bertenevo, Borodinov, Bortenevo, Bortnevo, Bortnevo,
Bortnovo, Bratanovo, Portnov, Portyanovo, Prudnovo in Russia

And if that is not close enough, look at the neigbouring countries
that could have been part of Russia:

Bartonov in Czechia,
Brudnow, Brudnow, Brudnowo, Pordenowo, Wrotnow in Poland
Berdynovo, Bortnów, Bortnuv, Vorotnëv, Vorotnyuv in the Ukraine

All those places did not have an official Latin spelling.

Everjan,

I am afraid that you are confusing researchers by directing them to randomly
picked up town names >from the USBGN (ShtetlSeeker) database.
What is use for the searches in Russia proper where Jews were severly
restricted as the residentsl, or Czechia and Ukraine, when Larry Freund is
tryng to establish town name in Vitebsk region.

Jewish people during 19th century were concentrating only in the certain
regions of the Pale territory, mostly around the larger "Jewish" towns where
they could follow and preserve their traditions and customs.

I am relaying on the Genners to assist researchers in their town quest since
at the end query for the town whereabouts will be ending at the JGFF
Helpdesk, and I will be sweating to find the answer.
--
Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

My husband and I are traveling to Eastern Europe (including Vilna) next
week. Each of us has family who lived in Vilna in the late 19th
Century. Do you have any recommendations for a researcher (and contact
information) who could do an analysis of found records in the
appropriate Lithuanian archives for us? What fee would be appropriate
for undertaking this assignment?

Please reply privately.

Ms. Sherrie Zacharius
Jewish Gen ID: 294625

MODERATOR NOTE: Thinking of visiting your ancestral shtetls? Let JewishGen
ShtetlSchleppers® take you there! http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

My husband and I are traveling to Eastern Europe (including Vilna) next
week. Each of us has family who lived in Vilna in the late 19th
Century. Do you have any recommendations for a researcher (and contact
information) who could do an analysis of found records in the
appropriate Lithuanian archives for us? What fee would be appropriate
for undertaking this assignment?

Please reply privately.

Ms. Sherrie Zacharius
Jewish Gen ID: 294625

MODERATOR NOTE: Thinking of visiting your ancestral shtetls? Let JewishGen
ShtetlSchleppers® take you there! http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/

Have you tried writing to the addresses on the page of testimony? One is in
Haifa, and the other is in Kiryat Hayim.

Two tips for working with pages of testimony >from Yad Vashem:

1) Always look up the image of the original, because the database information is
flawed or incomplete (or both). For example, many of the pages have complete
addresses at the bottom, because the form asks for it, but that wasn’t put into
the database.

2) Once you find a page of testimony that’s of interest, use the option to “find
more pages by the same submitter”. That’s a good way to find more relatives, and
it also increases your chances of getting a readable address for the submitter

....... tom klein, toronto

Have you tried writing to the addresses on the page of testimony? One is in
Haifa, and the other is in Kiryat Hayim.

Two tips for working with pages of testimony >from Yad Vashem:

1) Always look up the image of the original, because the database information is
flawed or incomplete (or both). For example, many of the pages have complete
addresses at the bottom, because the form asks for it, but that wasn’t put into
the database.

2) Once you find a page of testimony that’s of interest, use the option to “find
more pages by the same submitter”. That’s a good way to find more relatives, and
it also increases your chances of getting a readable address for the submitter

....... tom klein, toronto

JGSGW Program in October

Sunday, October 14, 2007
Bnai Israel, Fanaroff Auditorium
Rockville, MD

Program (Open to the Public)
Time: 1:00 PM Schmooze Time 1:30 PM Program
Topic: Searching Online Historical Documents
Speaker: Logan J. Kleinwaks

Logan will describe how to use a search engine he developed based on
optical character recognition (OCR) software to search Eastern European
directories, with an emphasis on how to find what you are looking for
despite errors introduced by the OCR process. The OCR-based approach allows
data >from print sources to be made searchable very quickly, with little
manual intervention. Its applications to other Jewish genealogy projects
will be discussed also.

As a bonus, there will be a brief presentation of a new tool to reunite
families separated by the Shoah, which allows email addresses to be
associated with Pages of Testimony found on Yad Vashem's website, and
automatically matches people associated with same Pages.

Logan Joseph Kleinwaks, is the creator of the online tools
www.ShoahConnect.org, for Page of Testimony research, and
www.kalter.org/search, for searching historical business directories, as
well as the general genealogy site www.FamilyTreeRegistry.org. His broader
genealogical interests include the photographic documentation of Jewish
cemeteries, improving Internet access to genealogical information, and
privacy.

For directions to B'nai Israel, Rockville, please refer to our website:
www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw
You may send an E-Mail to rpgersh@... for more information.
All are welcome to visit. We charge $5 to non-members to attend a program
meeting, but the fee can go towards membership if you join at a meeting.

Jeff Miller
VP, Administration/Logistics and Publicist
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington

Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Miami
Sunday, October 7, 2007 at 10 AM sharp

Harriet Kasow
"Family Research in Israel: Personal Experiences"

Harriet will present genealogical resources in Israel for family history
research based on her own searches. Her mother's BELFER family emigrated

from Bar, Ukraine to the United States in 1922-23 and her father's SADOVNIK

(SADOFF) family emigrated >from Chotin, Bessarabia in 1920. Harriet has also
researched her husband's KACEW family >from Grodno and Lunna, now in Belarus,
and his BLOCH and HARMETZ families >from Iwye, Belarus and Svencionys,
Lithuania.

Harriet Kasow was Media Librarian at Hebrew University of Jerusalem for 20
years and has been Librarian for the Israel Genealogical Society for 10
years. Harriet grew up in Miami, graduated >from the University of Miami and
has a library degree >from Florida State University.

Meeting location is Greater Miami Jewish Federation 4200 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami, FL 33137 phone 305-576-4000. Bring picture ID. Parking entrance at
rear of building.

For more information please contact Barbara Musikar at 305-868-9226 or <
bar945@... >

Bette Mas
JGS Greater Miami