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Vital Records in Chernigov - SHAPIRO
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David Goldman
Hello everyone.
I occasionally post this question because it is always possible that new participants have new insights into this problem. A number of years ago I researched the existence of vital records of my SHAPIRO ancestors >from Surazh at the Chernigov archive. For some strange reason there were no vital records for anyone at all - no birth records, no death records, no marriage records. Only a few census records. I am wondering why this could be. Any insights would be valuable! Thanks, David Goldman
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Re: Searching for long lost relative
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Bob Pachner <rjpachner@...>
I have very recently learned about my birth family, and about a very close
relative whom nobody had any trace of since his birth in New York on March 1, 1955. I know his birthname (first name Mark) which is probably not his legal name today, since he was very likely adopted. I also know precisely where he was born in New York. So far I have been denied access to various records which might help me trace him, due in part to my own adoption and the NY State laws re: sealed records. I'm certain that my relative has no idea about any of this, nor even that they might have another birth relative. And I can tell him the facts and stories about his birth family. If anyone with this knowledge was themselves adopted or might know of someone with this profile (it is definitely the exact birth date) please contact me privately. Thank you. Bob Pachner San Diego, CA Researching TABACZNIK (Vienna & Moldova), GROSS (Galicia & Vienna)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vital Records in Chernigov - SHAPIRO
#general
David Goldman
Hello everyone.
I occasionally post this question because it is always possible that new participants have new insights into this problem. A number of years ago I researched the existence of vital records of my SHAPIRO ancestors >from Surazh at the Chernigov archive. For some strange reason there were no vital records for anyone at all - no birth records, no death records, no marriage records. Only a few census records. I am wondering why this could be. Any insights would be valuable! Thanks, David Goldman
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching for long lost relative
#general
Bob Pachner <rjpachner@...>
I have very recently learned about my birth family, and about a very close
relative whom nobody had any trace of since his birth in New York on March 1, 1955. I know his birthname (first name Mark) which is probably not his legal name today, since he was very likely adopted. I also know precisely where he was born in New York. So far I have been denied access to various records which might help me trace him, due in part to my own adoption and the NY State laws re: sealed records. I'm certain that my relative has no idea about any of this, nor even that they might have another birth relative. And I can tell him the facts and stories about his birth family. If anyone with this knowledge was themselves adopted or might know of someone with this profile (it is definitely the exact birth date) please contact me privately. Thank you. Bob Pachner San Diego, CA Researching TABACZNIK (Vienna & Moldova), GROSS (Galicia & Vienna)
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Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or BIEDAK?)
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JrRothst@...
Would anyone know anything about a Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or Biedak?) who was
born in Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland on Jan.15, 1933? His father was Mordko Biedko (b.Sokoly, Poland, 1896) and his mother was Chane (Bober) Biedko (b. Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland, 1898). Maybe there is someone who knows anything about this family? Please send responses directly to me. Jerald A. Rothstein #112162 JrRothst@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or BIEDAK?)
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JrRothst@...
Would anyone know anything about a Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or Biedak?) who was
born in Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland on Jan.15, 1933? His father was Mordko Biedko (b.Sokoly, Poland, 1896) and his mother was Chane (Bober) Biedko (b. Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland, 1898). Maybe there is someone who knows anything about this family? Please send responses directly to me. Jerald A. Rothstein #112162 JrRothst@...
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Hollander, Zilbiger & Wulkan family trees
#galicia
Ami Elyasaf
I gathered all data on Galicia families: Hollander, Zilbiger and
Wulkan >from Yad Vashem, JRI and FTJP and built them in outline descendant trees. Whoever is interested and have the information how to continue merge the trees, is welcome to send me his/her data. <http://www.geocities DOT com/amielyasaf/galician_families/index.htm> Ami Elyasaf
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Hollander, Zilbiger & Wulkan family trees
#galicia
Ami Elyasaf
I gathered all data on Galicia families: Hollander, Zilbiger and
Wulkan >from Yad Vashem, JRI and FTJP and built them in outline descendant trees. Whoever is interested and have the information how to continue merge the trees, is welcome to send me his/her data. <http://www.geocities DOT com/amielyasaf/galician_families/index.htm> Ami Elyasaf
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From Alsace to Prague ?
#austria-czech
Micheline GUTMANN
To all who have done interesting answers about the name HECKER:
nobody thought about the possibility of an Alsatian family to go to Prague. And I know that some did. For instance, I recently studied the genealogy of the great tragedian Rachel FELIX and I got her parents' marriage certificate. A very interesting (not yet published) one which cannot be completely reliable or proved, but it could be interesting to try to verify something in Prague. This origin of this family is in Alsace, upper-Rhine. In that certificate, it is written that Rachel's maternal grand parents went to Prague and died there: Alexandre FELIX died in 1818 and his wife Jeannette SALOMON in 1819. Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech From Alsace to Prague ?
#austria-czech
Micheline GUTMANN
To all who have done interesting answers about the name HECKER:
nobody thought about the possibility of an Alsatian family to go to Prague. And I know that some did. For instance, I recently studied the genealogy of the great tragedian Rachel FELIX and I got her parents' marriage certificate. A very interesting (not yet published) one which cannot be completely reliable or proved, but it could be interesting to try to verify something in Prague. This origin of this family is in Alsace, upper-Rhine. In that certificate, it is written that Rachel's maternal grand parents went to Prague and died there: Alexandre FELIX died in 1818 and his wife Jeannette SALOMON in 1819. Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
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FW: Name HECKER
#austria-czech
יוסי <yosi47@...>
In the book "The Architecture of Hecker-Yellin(1920-1945"(in Hebrew),I find
Wilhelm Ze'ev)Hecker 1876-1945).He was born in Krakov, moved to Vienna and then to Hamburg. He learned architecture in Darmstadt.Immigrated to Israel (Ottoman Empire)in 1913.He died in Jerusalem. He had a wife,Heddi,and a brother, Max (mordechai) Ora Kuris MODERATOR NOTE: Please include your city after your name.
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Re: Records of Prag
#austria-czech
Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Chayim Fried of NY wrote: "Does anyone know where I can see an index of records
in Prag?" This is a complex and too general a question to answer precisely. As a first step, please study our own website: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ and read this: "Getting Started With Czech-Jewish Genealogy" - by E. Randol Schoenberg and Julius Mueller and then continue with this article "The Jewish Museum of Prague" by Henry Wellisch: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/pragmusm.html On the website you will read about the Familianten records stored in Prague where there are also many BMD records. Now we have also have the Prague Konskripce (1850 - 1914) ie Konskriptions [Melde] Zettel on the internet, but they are only partially scanned: http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/ The 1793 census of Bohemia has been published and there is a volume on Prague - Vol V1/1. This would have to be accessed at a library, but few stock it. It really depends on what you are looking for. Celia Male [U.K.]
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech FW: Name HECKER
#austria-czech
יוסי <yosi47@...>
In the book "The Architecture of Hecker-Yellin(1920-1945"(in Hebrew),I find
Wilhelm Ze'ev)Hecker 1876-1945).He was born in Krakov, moved to Vienna and then to Hamburg. He learned architecture in Darmstadt.Immigrated to Israel (Ottoman Empire)in 1913.He died in Jerusalem. He had a wife,Heddi,and a brother, Max (mordechai) Ora Kuris MODERATOR NOTE: Please include your city after your name.
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Records of Prag
#austria-czech
Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Chayim Fried of NY wrote: "Does anyone know where I can see an index of records
in Prag?" This is a complex and too general a question to answer precisely. As a first step, please study our own website: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ and read this: "Getting Started With Czech-Jewish Genealogy" - by E. Randol Schoenberg and Julius Mueller and then continue with this article "The Jewish Museum of Prague" by Henry Wellisch: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/pragmusm.html On the website you will read about the Familianten records stored in Prague where there are also many BMD records. Now we have also have the Prague Konskripce (1850 - 1914) ie Konskriptions [Melde] Zettel on the internet, but they are only partially scanned: http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/ The 1793 census of Bohemia has been published and there is a volume on Prague - Vol V1/1. This would have to be accessed at a library, but few stock it. It really depends on what you are looking for. Celia Male [U.K.]
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HECKER in Prague, 1909 -1913
#austria-czech
Celia Male <celiamale@...>
There was a woman nee HECKER living in Prague in the era 1909 - 1913:
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky. HORNOF Karl [born 1884] married to HORNOF (nee HECKER} Marie - born 1886 Children HORNOF Karl [dob 1910] and HORNOF Blazena [dob 1912] I do not think they were Jewish. The date of marriage is given on the Meldezettel 7 Feb. 1909 in Stresovic: http://tinyurl.com/34mfgu They should be checked-out further. Celia Male [U.K.]
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech HECKER in Prague, 1909 -1913
#austria-czech
Celia Male <celiamale@...>
There was a woman nee HECKER living in Prague in the era 1909 - 1913:
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky. HORNOF Karl [born 1884] married to HORNOF (nee HECKER} Marie - born 1886 Children HORNOF Karl [dob 1910] and HORNOF Blazena [dob 1912] I do not think they were Jewish. The date of marriage is given on the Meldezettel 7 Feb. 1909 in Stresovic: http://tinyurl.com/34mfgu They should be checked-out further. Celia Male [U.K.]
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KERSHMAN and DUGOLENSKY
#ciechanow
#poland
Joan Naimark
My maternal grandparents were Samuel Joseph KERSHMAN and Sarah DUGOLENSKY.
They were both born in or near Ciechanow in the mid-1880s. They married in 1905 and emigrated to London, England, where they had 5 children and stayed until they came to Montreal, Canada, in 1922. Sarah's sister Helene DUGOLENSKY was known to be in Berlin in the mid-1930s. I would appreciate hearing >from researchers who have come across these names in their families or in their own genealogical investigations. Joan Naimark Montreal, Quebec, Canada joan.naimark@... KERSHMAN, DUGOLENSKY Ciechanow, Poland NAIMARK, KOPLEWICZ, JAGODA, FROIMOWICZ Wyszkow, Poland
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#Ciechanow #Poland KERSHMAN and DUGOLENSKY
#ciechanow
#poland
Joan Naimark
My maternal grandparents were Samuel Joseph KERSHMAN and Sarah DUGOLENSKY.
They were both born in or near Ciechanow in the mid-1880s. They married in 1905 and emigrated to London, England, where they had 5 children and stayed until they came to Montreal, Canada, in 1922. Sarah's sister Helene DUGOLENSKY was known to be in Berlin in the mid-1930s. I would appreciate hearing >from researchers who have come across these names in their families or in their own genealogical investigations. Joan Naimark Montreal, Quebec, Canada joan.naimark@... KERSHMAN, DUGOLENSKY Ciechanow, Poland NAIMARK, KOPLEWICZ, JAGODA, FROIMOWICZ Wyszkow, Poland
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Re: Record researcher wanted
#ciechanow
#poland
MICHAEL WILKS <michael.wilks2@...>
No - but I'd be interested if you find someone!
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#Ciechanow #Poland RE: Record researcher wanted
#ciechanow
#poland
MICHAEL WILKS <michael.wilks2@...>
No - but I'd be interested if you find someone!
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Michael Wilks, 8, New Hall Road, SALFORD, M7 4EL, UK 0161 792 6339
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From: Chayim Fried [mailto:chayim@...] Sent: 11 July 2007 19:17 To: Ciechanow Research Group Subject: Record researcher wanted This list is supported by JewishGen. Please show your appreciation and support by visiting http://www.jewishgen.org/Jewishgen-erosity/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does anyone know of a good researcher of records in state archives not too expensive in Ciechanow area? Chayim Fried NY/USA --- To post to the Ciechanow Research discussion group, send your message to: <ciechanow@...> This research group (ciechanow@...) is hosted by JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org You are currently subscribed to ciechanow as: [michael.wilks2@...] To change the format of our mailings, to stop/resume delivery (vacation), or to unsubscribe, please go to http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 10/07/2007 17:44 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 10/07/2007 17:44
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