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Re: New York index to death records-finding pre 1865 death date #usa

Moishe Miller
 

Joan,
I looked up the same record at FamilySearch. It gives Abbott's detail as well. See below.
 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY

Jeanette Rund

New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949
 
 

 

 

Name: Jeanette Rund
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 17 Oct 1907
Event Place: The Bronx, NY
 
Gender: Female
Father's Name: Gerson Heilbummer
Mother's Name: Babett Ferzenbaumn
Certificate Number: 5114
   

Marga LEVY - Unna and Berlin # Germany #general

Mike Redel
 

Dear gersigs,

Marga Levy was born 30.07.1923 in Unna. Her father was the salesman
Julius Levy. Marga and her father lived in Halensee (now Berlin)
Seefenerstr. 50

Marga leave the school in 30.06.1938 - the reason: profession.

I have not found Marga and Julius in the german Gedenkbuch. Could one
of you help me with informations about their life.

regards

Mike Redel - germany
Re: New York index to death records-finding pre 1865 death date #usa

Moishe Miller
 

Joan,
You asked about that death record. Actually, it is not for Gershon. If you click on the daughter's name, you will see it is her 1907 death. See it below.
 
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
 
Name: Jeannette Rund
[Jeannette Hhilbroner] 
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital status: Widowed
Age: 65
Birth Date: abt 1842
Birth Place: Germany
Years in US: 52 Years
Death Date: 17 Oct 1907
Death Street Address: 753 Beck St
Death Place: New York City, New York, USA
Cause of Death: Paralysis Agitans, Arterio-Sclerosis
Burial Date: 20 Oct 1907
Burial Place: Manwindus Cemt
Father's Birth Place: Germany
Mother's Birth Place: Germany
Father: Gerson Hhilbroner
Mother: Babett Hhilbroner
Certificate Number: 5114

Re: Continuous Residency Requirement #usa #general

Stephen Weinstein
 

Maybe he didn't want to be asked about when he first entered, where he had been living in the U.S., why he returned to Russia, etc.

Or maybe he had gotten into some sort of legal or financial or other trouble when in the U.S. previously and didn't want the immigration authorities to alert his creditors, abandoned wife, the police, etc., that he had returned.  Or just didn't think they'd let him into the U.S. a second time if they were aware of what had happened the first time.

My grandfather told me that his father entered the U.S., returned to what would have been Russia then (Belarus today), went to the U.S. again, and believing that he wouldn't be admitted again under the same name, used the name of the person ahead of him on line who had just been admitted under that name.  Some details of this story don't make sense (for example, he would have been asked his name before he knew whether person ahead of him on line was admitted), but he really did enter under the name that my grandfather said had been his birthname.  (My grandfather said the reason for the name change was because his father had traveled back and forth several times and didn't think he'd get in again if he kept using the same name, but I think that no one would have known, because they didn't keep track; the records were indexed or computerized, so they couldn't tell how many times a person had entered.)
Re: Stories my father told me #general

Sharon Taylor
 

My family came from Mariampol Galicia, just outside of Stanislawow. My favorite bedtime story, told in Yiddish, was about "Der Grosse Bear." I believe my mother learned the story from her mother or grandmother, and its similar to the tale of the Baba Yaga. One day, a mother leaves her children home while she goes to market. When she returns, the house is a shambles and all the children are gone. She grabs her sewing kit and heads into the forrest, following the enormous  footprints of a bear. She finds him sleeping beside a stream. She takes her scissors and cuts open the bear's belly and the children pop out. I always assumed that this story was common in that part of today's Ukraine. Is anyone familiar with this story or another similar tale?

Sharon Taylor
Philadelphia PA

Researching NEMETH, BLOCH (Mariampol and Stanislawow, Galicia)
WEISNER, FLEISIG (Kulikow and Lemberg, Galicia)
FISHER, RAPPAPORT (Raguva, Vilna, and Kovno, Lithuania)
Re: Descendants of Dutch Jews. Any interest? #general

Anne Nunez
 

Same last name... My father was a Nunez, his mother was a Cardozo. From Spain/Portugal then Livorno, Tunis, Paris then now, for some of us, the US.
I did see connections, marriages etc between Livorno and London/Amsterdam Sephardim in the 17th-18th century archives. 
My father did DNA analysis thru Family Tree DNA. Adam Brown of the Avotaynu DNA Project/Census project has helped my father thru his DNA analysis and analysis of other family members. Have you considered such analysis? It may give you some information on your family origin and relations with other sephardic families. My father did find a genetic match with a Christian minister in England, originally Enriquez/Valentin. 
Best regards,
Anne Marie Nunez
Alexandria, VA
Re: Cohanim and Levites #dna

Todd Leavitt
 

My family name is "Levitsky", but Big Y DNA testing (haplogroup/terminal SNP R-YP6547) apparently does not qualify (per Meir HaLevi Gover) as consistent with the Levite genetic signature(s). So it goes....
Re: New York index to death records-finding pre 1865 death date #usa

A. E. Jordan
 




-----Original Message-----
From: Joan Pollak <JFPollak@...>
I recently found via Ancestry.com an entry for my third great grandfather, Gerson Heilbroner, in the 1862-1948 New York Index to Death Records. Heilbroner was mispelled Hhilbroner which was why I had not stumbled upon this before. This is definitely confirmed as my ggggrandfather as the entry mentioned his wife and daughter's name.
Questions:
1. Would the dates of the index indicate that he died 1862 and after-not before?
2. Would there be a next step in finding his actual death certificate/death date? I surmise that he died before May of 1865 because of naming patterns in the family.




Try checking over on FamilySearch. 

I think it is too early for a certificate so it is going to be a single line in the ledger books.    It would havee similar information to a death certificate but as I say be one line on a page and if I recall correctly they are by date not alphabetically.

Allan Jordan
IAJGS Conference Planning #jgs-iajgs #jgs-iajgs

Chuck Weinstein
 

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Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

m.solman@...
 

My grandmother Faiga Sobelewski grew up in the Czarist Russian city of Elisavetgrad (Ukraine, now with a different name) from 1893 to 1907. That year she immigrated with her widowed mother and siblings to Montreal.

There were various revolutionary upheavals as she was growing up at which times the flour mills were closed, and so there was no bread.  She told me when I young that she and her siblings frequently ate watermelon as a substitute for bread.  Even her old age, with the summer fruits available in Canada, she always preferred eating watermelon to bread.  I imagine there are others who may have heard similar stories from their grandparents.

Mel Solman
Toronto
New York index to death records-finding pre 1865 death date #usa

JFPollak@...
 

 
I recently found via Ancestry.com an entry for my third great grandfather, Gerson Heilbroner, in the 1862-1948 New York Index to Death Records. Heilbroner was mispelled Hhilbroner which was why I had not stumbled upon this before. This is definitely confirmed as my ggggrandfather as the entry mentioned his wife and daughter's name.
Questions:
1. Would the dates of the index indicate that he died 1862 and after-not before?
2. Would there be a next step in finding his actual death certificate/death date? I surmise that he died before May of 1865 because of naming patterns in the family.
 
Joan Pollak
Merion, Pennsylvania
 
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Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"Correct spelling is Itzkovna" - In Russian, transliterated, maybe, but in Polish Ickowna was how it happened most of the time.

I have transcribed thousands of bmd for Polish towns, and Ickowna, and Ickowicz for men, were what occur.
Re: Searching for Shoikhet and Chausovsky families currently in Lithuania #lithuania

fjs@...
 

 You might wish to contact Simonas Gurevicius, the leader of the Vilnius Jewish Community.  He might be able to tell you if any of your family members are enlisted with the VJC.  I’m sure you will find him helpful and able to give advice.

Good luck,
Frank
Re: The Boy Who Would Not Eat #general

Jx. Gx.
 

Hello Reba Solomon.

Check out this link I found about Cannon Street in Lower Manhattan, NYC.

 https://forgotten-ny.com/2009/12/sheriff-bishop-crook/10-cannon-st/

Jeffrey Gee
Arizona
Re: Looking for information about my family from Yedenitz #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hello Terry,  hello everybody who is interested in Bessarabia.

 

Here are several suggestions for Terry and also for everyone else who is researching their families.

 

  1. Our ancestors moved a lot in 19 century, that is why if you know that at some point they lived in Yedinetz, it does not mean that they did not come from close by or even not close town or village.  Do a broader search for that surname, and you may find your family somewhere else too.
  2. Do not use “Exact names”  (surname, first name)…  our ancestors changed their names, even it was forbidden at some point.
  3. We have some records for the Jewish cemetery in Yedinez, and in many other places in Bessarabia.  If you know where your great grandmother died, you can get some results from there.  Be aware that in 19 century or beginning of 20 century many gravestones do not have Surnames written…  use first name and father’s name instead.
  4. Do you know how the names (and surnames) were written in Russian?  That might be important… Instead of putting Mekler, Mackler, etc.  put an image with original Russian or Yiddish names (maybe from postcard, letter, etc.)
  5. I remember very well that in Miriam Weiner’s collection there were many records for people from Yedinez!  You should search that collection at Bessarabia website / Databases /Miriam Weiner’s collection.
  6. Also look into Business directory results of your search, and Voter’s list… you may find your family members there.
  7. I would suggest when you do a search analyze every line in the results window.

 

All the best,

 

Good luck to everybody with your research.

 

Yefim Kogan
Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Susan&David
 

Few Board of Special Inquiry hearing records survived.  There are 18 rolls of microfilm for Philadelphia, 1893- 1909.  You can look through this collection and get an idea of what hearings consisted of.
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/2892/

HIAS is still in operation: https://ajhs.org/ask-reference-question

I am not familiar with HIAS activities outside of the USA. I do know that HIAS could be notified when a client was to arrive and an agent would know to be there to greet him/her.   There is an interesting  record here:    (Go to image 1260 of 3127) 
FamilySearch Catalog: Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society card file I-96, 1882-1929 — FamilySearch.org
You will see that HIAS has an agent in Minsk, so it was likely that your family story is true.

David Rosen


On 6/21/2020 8:05 AM, beckyanderson53@... wrote:

On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 09:57 PM, Susan&David wrote:
RE:  HIAS?HEBREW SHELTERING and IMMIGRANT AID SOCIETY of AMERICA, RECORD of SPECIAL INQUIRY CASE
My maternal grandfather had a three hearings prior to being admitted to the U.S.  I have tried to find records of the hearings, which are documented in the Ellis Island records, without success.  I am interested in how one finds the HIAS records.

Also, a previous reply stated that HIAS did not help people until they arrived in the U.S.   My paternal grandfather who left Odessa and was in in Constantinople for over 6 months in 1923, specifically states in the autobiography he handwrote in in 1960s that HIAS helped my family while they were in Constantinople.  Any thoughts on this? 

Thank you.
Rebecca Fogel Anderson
KIMLAT, MITNIK, FOGEL, TALNOPER, KRAHKMALNIKOV: Odessa, Russia
FINKELSTEIN,SILBERSTEIN: Serock, Poland
JAWETZ, VOGEL, GREENBAUM: Bukovina

Re: Seeking Researcher In Romania for Votkana, Bucharest, Barlad and Lasi #romania

Peninah Zilberman
 

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Re: Meaning of the given mame "Ickowna" #names

Efraim
 

Correct spelling is Itzkovna. This is a patronym and it means that her father's name was Itzik or Isaak in Russian spelling. Incidentally, my mom was Rozalia Isaakovna.
Re: Fairy Tales my Father Told Me #belarus

Alyssa Freeman
 

My grandmother and her family escaped Odessa around the same time yours did (1920) and walked across Europe. My mother told me that her mother told her HIAS helped them (BTW, my 2x great aunt who was from Tiraspol married either a SIlberstien or SIlverstein, depending on the records. This was probably around 1880. Her name was Chaya and his name was Melech).
 
Alyssa Freeman
Henrico, VA
FAVILYUKIS (the Odessa family); DIKERMAN, BOTNIK - Tiraspol/Bessarabia; KAPLINSKY, KAHAN - Belarus
KALLNER, FURMAN/FRIEMAN, LEVANISKY, GORDON, KOHN - Lithuania/Latvia; SUSSMAN - Galicia
1921 Czech Census for Subcarpathia Online #hungary #subcarpathia #hungary #subcarpathia

Lara Diamond
 

If you have family from what was Hungary pre-WWI, Czechoslovakia
between the wars, and is now Zakarpattya Oblast, Ukraine, the 1921
Czech census is online. I've found a ton of family--including my
great-great grandparents! Here are instructions about how to navigate
the site:

https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2020/06/1921-czech-census-for-podkarpatska-rus.html

If someone wants to work with me to create a transcription project to
index the Jewish records out of here, please contact me off-list.

Lara Diamond
Baltimore, MD
32081 - 32100 of 676865