moderated Re: Which name do I use to enter into my family tree program---the old Russian name or the USA name? #general #names

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

Similarly, my grandfather was born with first name KALMEN but it changed to CARL in the USA.  Which name should I use for him?
Thanks for any insight,"
Everybody has this problem, if they have immigrant ancestors. One of my ggrandfathers was born Baruch, in Amsterdam, Barnett in London, and Bernhard in NYC.
Any good genealogy program today has Aliases as an option you can use. So this ggrandfather is, in Legacy Family Tree, Bernhard Laguna, with aliases Barnett Lopes de Leaǒ Laguna, and Baruch Lopes de Leaǒ Laguna. Which is the 'primary' name and which is the alias is up to you - you can swap them, so it doesn't matter.
Online programs are more difficult. I don't know of any that has aliases, so I use, on Ancestry, "Bernhard Barnett Baruch" and "Lopes de Leaǒ Laguna", as Ancestry will look for all parts of a name.
Addionally, for you, you may want to use the proper Polish KAŁMAN, although I don't know if it matters.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Home Town of Harry Dorf #ukraine #galicia #austria-czech

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>

Thank you for your note, having to do with my DORF ancestors."
If you are replying to Emily, reply to Emily, not the group. If you look at the bottom of the posting (at least in Yahoo Mail), you see both options. "Reply to sender" and "Reply to group".
This has been mentioned before, but apparently not everyone saw it.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Tracking Kielmanowicz Family History from Szczucin, Poland #poland



My name is Jason Lieberman and I am researching my family history. My great grandfather was born in Szczucin, Poland. I am hoping someone can help me verify my information and provide any further information they might have.
My great grandfather's name was Henoch/Hanoch Kielmanowicz (although later on he was known as Henri). I am told he was born in 1890 in a town pronounced as "Chechin." I found a record of his birth online on JewishGen where it says the town he was born in was called Szczucin pow. Dabrowa (attached). His father's name was listed as Szymon Kielmanowicz and his mother's name was listed as Riwka Gettinger. I know that record is definitely referring to my great grandfather because I was told his father's name was Simon and his mother's maiden name was Gettinger (although I never knew what her first name was). I was told that Henoch's mother (Riwka) also gave birth to a girl named Myriam. Myriam at some point left to France, and I think was known as Marie and married someone with the last name Guercht. I am told that Simon Kielmanowicz's wife, Riwka Gettinger, passed away at a young age and Simon remarried. I am told that Simon's 2nd wife was Myriam. Myriam had four children (Michael, Anne/Anna, Rose/Sara Rachla, Issac) and then I think she passed away. Simon then married a third wife Jechel and had five more children (Jetta, Giselle, Simcha, Siolek, Esther). I believe most of the family moved to Paris, France and most then moved to the U.S.
Would you be able to help me verify my information and provide any further family history information you might have? I also have attached a picture of Simon Kielmanowicz if that helps.

MAZORKOFF family family who came from Russia and lived in Liverpool (UK) and Canada #russia #unitedkingdom


I am researching the MAZORKOFF family who came from Russia and lived in Liverpool (UK) and Canada
Is there anyone researching this family?

locating original 1848 Hungarian Census Records #hungary

Sam Lorber

Dear H-Sig,
I am searching for the source material for this record.  All the other entries on the page give an LDS Film number, but a few, like these, only say Presov in that column.  I have browsed the Conscriptio Judaerum. 1848 in FamilySearch and the records for Eperjes (Presov) within, but haven’t found this record of my GG grandparents’ household.  Any help locating the original records would be greatly appreciated!
Sam Lorber
Nashville, TN
Researching: LORBER, GUTTMAN/GOODMAN, NEWMAN in Saros megye and surrounding areas.

Presov tenant farmer
GUTTMAN Brandlja


Re: Looking for Rivesaltes camp arrest record or other documentation for my grandfather Moses GOLDSTEIN #france #holocaust

Rick Zeckel

When I was trying to find information regarding my relatives who went through Rivesaltes I found that Eve Blum (eve.line.blum@...) was quite helpful. Obviously her availability, or ability to answer your question, may be impacted by the current situation but it would be worth a least for a start.


Re: Looking for Information on Harry FEINGOLD and Bessie WEISS, from Poland to Phoenixville, PA and NYC 1890s #poland #usa


I reached out to Congregation Beth Jacob, Phoenixville.  Below are the email responses.  Nothing on Feingolds.  The Weiss family I am familiar with settled in nearby Pottstown (10 miles from Phoenixville) where I grew up.  The Schwartz-Weiss clan (Hungarian Jews) arrived there around 1890.   I have a lot of information about that Weiss family.   By the way, is your cousin related to the Weiss family of Triangle Shoe Company?

Larry Cohen
Schwenksville, Pa.
JewishGen 497337

Mike Trachtenberg <mtrachtenberg@...>
Tue 5/19/2020 1:26 PM
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My sister who is 85 does not recognize them either

On May 18, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Lee & Barbara Berger <bergerlbd@...> wrote:
Mike covered everything I know. I've never heard of any local Feinbergs. The Pottstown Weisses are cousins of mine, but Larry knows that because I've spoken to him about them.


From: Mike Trachtenberg [mailto:mtrachtenberg@...]
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 12:15 AM
To: Ruth Yeiser; bergerlbd@...
Cc: Lawrence Cohen
Subject: Re: Jewish Gen




I cannot remember that name. No Feingolds buried in our cemetery. 


There are Weiss family in Pottstown- Sydney & Alvin Weiss. Sydney married Joanie Weiss, who is no longer a member of Shule.   


We had a Martin Weiss who was a member of our Shule. They owned a small store next to the Colonial Theater. He passed many years ago. They had a daughter Erica Weiss, who would be in her mid- 80's if she is still alive.


I will ask my sister if she remembers the Feingold  family .



From: Ruth Yeiser <ryeiser@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:14 PM
To: Mike Trachtenberg <mtrachtenberg@...>; bergerlbd@... <bergerlbd@...>
Cc: Lawrence Cohen <chickenhill99@...>
Subject: FW: Jewish Gen


Mike and Lee,


Larry sent the below email…he’s a fellow Schwenksvillite with deep roots at the Pottstown Synagogue…. 


Anyway, do we have Feingolds in Congregation B’nai Jacob History?  I looked through Dan Baer’s stuff that I used for the Centennial book but while I saw references to Weisses in the early history, I didn’t see Feingolds.  But I’m thinking that I hear “Feingold” during Yizkor.  (Pity—I was just at CBJ  for the grocery box delivery today…I would have looked at the memorial plaques had I gotten the below email earlier…)


Anyway, if you recognize any of the names, let Larry know.  Thanks.



Naming a Shtetl in a Family Tree #belarus #general


Is there a preferred standard in naming a village (shtetl) in one’s family tree, when the political boundaries of the shtetl have changed?   For example, my grandmother, Sarah Boldo, was born around 1900 in Lybucha, Grodno gubernia, Belarus, which is now Lyubcha, Minsk gubernia, Belarus.   Basically the county the village was in changed borders, from Grodno to Minsk.   I believe if I go back far enough, the village was earlier in Poland.  


So my question is whether to enter the village name for her birth in 1900 with today’s political boundaries (i.e. Minsk gubernia) or the political boundaries from when she was born in 1900 (i.e. Grodno gubernia)?


Also, in order to see a history of the village, to determine what the political boundaries were at any time in history, is there a book or online resource I could find  this information---perhaps a gazetteer?


Thank you,

Louis Loccisano

moderated Which name do I use to enter into my family tree program---the old Russian name or the USA name? #general #names


Regarding my grandmother, she was born around 1901 with name Sarah BOLDO but the surname changed to GOLDBERG  in the USA.   Which surname should I use in my family tree program on Ancestry?  Similarly, my grandfather was born with first name KALMEN but it changed to CARL in the USA.  Which name should I use for him?
Thanks for any insight,

Louis Loccisano   <loulocc@...>

Re: immigration to Cuba #general #latinamerica

Naomi Sachs

I'm looking for similar information. My family got out of Berlin sometime around 1933/34 and made their way to Rio de Janeiro via Cuba. I haven't been able to find them on any manifests and would be super grateful to anyone who can point me in the direction of where those passenger lists may reside. I have subscriptions to most of the genealogy websites out there.  Thanks so much!

Naomi Sachs <naomisachs1@...>
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Searching for Teodor BRAUDE born 1909 in Torun, Prussia #poland #warsaw #russia


I am looking for information on Teodor BRAUDE. Born 1909 in Torun, Prussia. Mother was Terese Mozeson, Father was Bernhard BRAUDE. Parents married in Warsaw in 1909. Teodor may have been known by the first name of Terry or Teddy. Growing up, he lived in Warsaw with Alexander and Sonia Lorski. He attended Warsaw University around the late 1920's to early 1930's. He was interested in the theater and cinema, He would have been 30 years old in 1939. It is not known if he was married, what work he did, or where he lived in the mid-to-late 1930's. After the Invasion of Poland in 1939, he was reported to have been in Russian-occupied Poland, "acting and directing" in 1940. No further sightings after that. Could he have fled into Russia during the war? Fought in the Russian Army? Survived the War? Did he have children who might still be living? Any assistance would be appreciated.        Thank You,

George Mason,    USA  <gmason3815@...> 

Re: Jewish gauchos Argentina #latinamerica


I grew up hearing that my maternal grandfather was a gaucho on the Argentine pampas. Though my grandmother's brother did go from Bessarabia to near Mendoza, my grandfather ultimately operated a furniture store in Montevideo, Uruguay!  Look at nearby cities and ports of entry in your search.

Re: Looking for what happened to family Blumberg, Popower, Chmielnik in Rio de Janiero #poland #latinamerica


Hi Helen

You should also read what is written on the back of the Brazil immigration card of Mauritz (Mauricio) Popower, there is also a second card where the information on the back continues.
The same for the Brazil immigration cards fo Elza Chmielnik, née Popower, and Lajb Chmielnik, he has three immigration cards, where the information on the back continues.

If they immigrated to the United States before 1957 and if they arrived in New York, you could find their passenger manifest online on familysearch and ancestry.

Brazilian newspaper archives online


Corinne Iten

Mishpokhe. Jewish Polish Genealogy Webinar on May 27 #events #poland

Daniel Horowitz

Hi all, 

The second part (after 1939) of the webinar Mishpokhe. Jewish Polish Genealogy will be broadcasted live on Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 12:00 PM (noon) EDT.
Tracing family histories after 1939 is very often a silenced topic in our homes which can still affect next generations after Shoah. These stories are left untold because of huge pain of Survivors or lack of the witnesses that could give a testimony.

The speaker is Kamila Burchart – genealogist, translator, ghost hunter
Lacerated between Prussia and Yiddishkayt. Researching narrations about local Jewish communities led her into oral history and genealogy. She translates texts from German, Lithuanian, Yiddish and Russian and is part of Your Roots in Poland, the organization responsible for the webinar.

If you missed the first part you can still see it at

I have no affiliation with Your Roots in Poland or this webinar but thought it will be of interest to you.

Best regards
Daniel Horowitz

Re: Re: Searching for Leah Noah Da Costa #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf

I think that the best church to try first would be St. Mary's Whitechapel and then maybe St. Botolph's Aldgate.  Both within the area where Leah was probably living.
 I do wish you luck.

Martyn Woolf

Re: Home Town of Harry Dorf #ukraine #galicia #austria-czech

Brucce Wexler

Thank you for your note, having to do with my DORF ancestors. I have a picture of Aaron's gravestone which confirms his father was Benjamin. My grandfather's (Harry) headstone says his father was Aaron. I believe this was a mistake on the part of my Uncles and Aunts who ordered the headstone.  Aaron was definitely Harry's brother. Older by 16 years.
I have both my  grandfather's intention to be naturalized, and his Naturalization papers. I know the port, date and ship that my grandfather arrived on. It was the SS Zeeland, New York, October 7, 1907. (My father told me that he and my grandfather used to joke that they arrived the same week. My father being born in New York city on October 4, 1907). I actually have a copy of the report of the ship's landing from the NY Times, the following day. I also have the Passenger listing, showing my grandfathers name. It shows he arrived from Czernowitz, leaving my pregnant grandmother,and my two eldest uncles. The passenger ship listing shows the last residence as Czernowitz, but not a date or place of birth.
Aaron was married to a Gital Zwick. They had seven daughters, the first one born 1885, the last one, 1901. I doubt they were married in 1901.
It very  well may be that my grandfather was born in Zaleszczyki, but of course I would like to have proof. 
Thanks again for your note and information. I really appreciate it.
Bruce Wexler

Loction of Kisenovich town. Romania? #general #romania

Bob Bloomberg

Does anyone have information on the location of the town or village of Kisenovich (or variation thereof), possibly in Romania?

Re: Looking for info on Milman (only one "L") family from Kishenev Bessarabia pre-1900 #bessarabia

Jeffrey Knisbacher

Don't limit your search to a particular spelling. Also consider possible variants like MAILMAN. Jeff Knisbacher 

Re: Suwalki-Lomza Landsmen Journal #poland

Jill Whitehead

I last heard from Marlene Silverman in 2018. Nothing since. 

I have her latest known email address and have just emailed her to see if I get a response.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Re: Ursula Wyss FREY, 16th century religious crossover? #general

howard sachs

"Lengnau" apparently is the place of very early Jewish refuge in Switzerland.  I mistakenly assumed that a Frey family would not be Jewish.  Wikipedia lists it as an Ashkenazi surname.  But this Frey family line apparently became Protestant, in Alsace or Switzerland, sometime before migration with the "Pennsylvania Dutch".  There may be a significant number of people with some Jewish genetic background in that migration.  This line has "cousins" of my mother.  My paternal line DNA nearly matches still another family in that community. HFS

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