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Re: tracing American relatives
#usa
Stephen Weinstein
Not sure if they did newspaper ads, but try the Red Cross International Tracing Service
Stephen Weinstein Camarillo, CA, USA |
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Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness
#general
EdrieAnne Broughton
Using the big sites, I mean Ancestry primarily and FamilySearch, can be very helpful as long as the sites are used judiciously.
When looking at trees, I only use them with skepticism. I look at the number of sources that the maker used. I completely discount data where the only sources are 'because I said so' and only a little more at what 'Granny said'. I only completely trust primary sources that I've seen images of. Those include birth records for birth dates and mothers names...a little less for fathers listed. Death certificates for death information but less for birth information because that information is only as good as the knowledge of the informant. You have to remember that 100 years ago children didn't have to fill out forms with parents' full names every year, from kindergarten to college and beyond. I found that one of my husband's ancestors wrote a biography of his father in the 1840s. The man didn't know his father's first name so he just used Sylvester. The names of this writer's contemporaries were correct but the previous generation, he didn't have a clue. Most people discounted the events described however I think the stories were correct. I still have a few doubters but most of the family researchers I've convinced that the bio events are true.
When an Ancestry hint is wrong, I use their form for why I ignored their hint...remember, someone might just accept the hint assuming it's right. And I give the reason for rejecting the hint. Some, like SAR applications, I just reject on principle as those were rarely properly vetted. I discount Pedigree files, Millenium Files and other trees just for the same reason. I'm a Californian who has a wide tree that goes back to earliest Virginia and Massachusetts..it would be prohibitively expensive to research in all the places my ancestors lived. I got into Jewish genealogy as a challenge. I have a nephew by marriage who is too busy to do his own research. He spends time in other parts of the world doing research far from comfy studies. My biggest handicap is my rudimentary German and complete lack of Hebrew,Yiddish or even Russian. My best asset is growing up age 8-16 in a Jewish neighborhood with many friends with parents and grandparents from Eastern Europe. In our larger community were Armenians and Italians.
People who just accept a piece of new information without two documents supporting their hypothesis are foolish and I wish there was some way to trash their work...there isn't. Just make sure your research is the best you can make it, and take your time, don't speed.
EdrieAnne Broughton
Jewish Gen member for 20 years
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Re: synagogue memorial plaques
#JewishGenUpdates
Daniel Mann
Synagogues sometimes keep member information such as family lists & yahrzeits of deceased family that the member observes .
They also may have lists of how the person is called up to the Torah. This will tell you his & his father's proper Hebrew names.
I am aware of someone who made a nice discovery this way.
I myself regret that I only pursued this avenue after the synagogue moved & these lists may have been discarded.
I hope this tip proves helpful to some.
Daniel Mann
Researching
CHALUTA Belarus.
SHERESHEVSKY Belarus esp Bialystok & Svisloch
AIDELMAN Belarus (Orly ?)
MANN Galicia esp Ulashkivtsi, Chortkiv, and Kopyczyńce
MANN Vienna Austria
MILLER / MULLER Galicia
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Re: Translation from Russian - Pictures (LEBEDENKO/LEBEDENCO family)
#photographs
#russia
#romania
#translation
#ukraine
Dr.Josef ASH
You have here 4 pictures.
from below: Written in Russian: "Russian Bapthise Sosciety on the day of founding - Varna 17 IV 1932" next up: :"J. Belaniuk 13.6.1948" the photographer's name. Ukrainian surname (as well as Lebedenko). THe nombers shoud be written on the back side of the picture with the names... next up: on the sign board above the entrance in Russian: "Greetings to all the baptists. The 6th congress SSBB (don't know this abbreviation)" Written : "Festive meeting of the 6-th congress June 13, 1940, esperanso" with names: you can read them. one of them is russian Kiril.Pestina looks like the woman's Russian surname Ogurtsova is the Russian surname |
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Sherri Bobish
Sally is correct. I have a RAND from Baligrod that married into my WALTZMAN family.
Baligrod is not far Lutowiska, from which I also have family. Regards, Sherri Bobish |
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sacredsisters1977@...
Hi All
For many years I have been obsessively researching my Mendelson ancestry. I am always looking to fill in the gaps with help from other connections. One of my many Mendelson ancestry was a Blume mendelson who married a moishe doctorow. They settled in Massachusetts. I would love to make contact with descendants and share information. I believe the daughter Helen married a max Voll/Woll who also was a Mendelson descendant. Seeking to get any contact from any of those families so we can hopefully fill in the blanks. I hope I am posting this correctly, with the new parameters for I am clueless about these hastags. So if you are a Mendelson descendant from Mogilev or Shklove Belarus please contact me. Sarah Greenberg (USA) sacredsisters1977@... |
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Alan Reische
Two of my grandparents are buried in the Mount Sinai Plot of the Mount
Judah Cemetery - Louis and Mamie (Stein) Reische. I've hit a stone wall in determining where Louis came from originally, although evidence points to the vicinity of Rzeszow Galicia (now Southeastern Poland). I've checked both with the Cemetery itself and with the current adminstrator of the temple to see if the Plot was allocated to a specific lamdsmannschaft but they have only information linking the Plot to Mount Sinai Synagogue, none of it furthering the inquiry. Is there anything in this limited information that would hint at the country or region of origin? Am I missing some obvious source of information? |
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Molly Staub
Here's a record from my tree. I had never heard of Gedalia before; it looks like he went by Joseph.
Birthabt 1904 Ostropol, Russia Death22 Jul 1938 Phila., PA Age 39 sources (15) records (12) Happy hunting, Molly Arost Staub |
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Re: synagogue memorial plaques
#JewishGenUpdates
Neil Kominsky
I am 100% in favor of the memorial plaques project, which has wide coverage here in Massachusetts. A word of caution, however: Get permission from the synagogue before you start copying. I have encountered folks who have privacy concerns and are not comfortable about the information going online. Frustrating as it is, they are entitled to say no.
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Alexander Sharon
Rand was actually very popular family name in Galicia.
JRI-P lists total 1,431 entries for surname Rand, mostly in Krakow (697 entries) and Lwow (540 entries) regions. Rand surname appears 118 times within the Lutowiska (district Lesko) township alone. Debora Rand was a landowner in Lutowiska , and Rand family also own an alcohol distillery which was usually connected to the land ownership. Alexander Sharon Calgary, AB |
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Re: synagogue memorial plaques
#JewishGenUpdates
Emily Garber
This is the page for the existing Memorial Plaques project on JewishGen.
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Memorial/ Emily Garber Phoenix, AZ |
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Queens, NY cemeteries and Florence Marmor
#general
edlfrank@...
In 2001, I found a site called "International Jewish Cemetery Project". Under New York City - Queens, I found a goldmine; 19 pages full of detailed info on the cemeteries, especially the one I am interested in, Bayside, also sometimes called Acacia or Mokom Sholom. The website gave a Florence Marmor, David Priever and David Gevertzman as the collectors of the data. There was 3 pages just on this one cemetery. Florence had a website fmarmor@.... The site was still active in December of 2006.
I urge anyone interested in this county to give this site a try. Ed Frank Sun City Center, FL |
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Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness
#general
Paul and Debbie Weiss
More to the point, to verify the matches you often have to be a paying member of that particular site. I have a free tree (very limited compared to my “real” one on Ancestry), and keep getting hints to confirm that are either complete garbage, or are repetitive of information that I already have. I am sure that I am not alone in this experience or my skepticism about the vale of such sites for substantive research. They are good for finding relatives who are also searching for common family, but in my experience that’s about it.
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Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness
#general
Eva Lawrence
Most of the people who are being dismissive of the large genealogical companies go on to say that they haven't subscribed for years. All these companies have had to up their game for that very reason. Their indexing is not as inaccurate as it was, and they are still the easiest route to accessing original images of census and marriage records and one can now use them increasingly to contact potential relatives. . If you are starting to research a new line, a commercial site is often the best to start. I supplement what I find with Familysearch and Geni, both free to use. I take care to save all mt information on my own computer, so that I can move to another site when it's no longer useful for the projects I'm working on.. . A downside is that I keep on getting emails with information I've had for years, which does waste time..
-- Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK. |
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Re: Partial Manifest Located, How to locate remaining section
#unitedkingdom
#general
jbonline1111@...
A quick look at Steve Morse's great one-step site produced a record for Dorothy WEINGARTEN in 1929. However, it shows her arriving in the USA. Did you look there?
-- Barbara Sloan Conway, SC |
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Re: Vetting family tree submissions to genealogy sites for data soundness
#general
Carolyn Lea
I totally disagree that these sites are garbage. Many of the trees may be garbage but that is not why I subscribe. The number of records to be found on these sites is far beyond what I could hope to find w/o them - let alone pay for copies of them from somewhere. Death records alone for everyone in my tree would be beyond my means. And my tree is not that big! Yes, there are plenty of incorrect transcriptions. Ancestry - I assume - still uses non-English speaking translators saying they are less likely to make assumptions - i.e. cheap labor. I do not know about My Heritage. There are also the people who claim your family and add incorrect alternate information to deal with. On Ancestry I always correct misspellings and transcription errors as well as people making wrong claims.
Family Search uses native speakers - you can help index for them if you are bored! If I remember correctly they go through 2 indexers and a 3rd arbitrator per record. I still have had some of my indexing corrections overridden even though I know them to be correct as I researched other records for the family to be certain. I do not put my info online but two cousins I sent to have - w/o asking. I am confused by what you mean by, "My data has been leaked by two such companies without my permission." Leaked from where? Is this public data like birth and death dates? I was very fortunate about two weeks ago to come across a record on My Heritage that provided part of an answer as to what became of my grandfather, Henry Schwarzbaum and I have been searching for him for almost 20 years. Carolyn Lea (Schwarzbaum) Schwarzbaum : Posen, Lewinsohn/Levison: Elbing, Rothschild: Hamburg?, Basch: Poland/England |
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Re: tracing American relatives
#usa
Ruth Kornbluth <rfenko@...>
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 04:06 PM, Ruth Kornbluth wrote:
Was there ever an organization that helped survivors establish contacts with American relatives after the war by publishing ads in newspapers across the USA? And, if so, would any of those records be available for research? |
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Re: Survivors to Israel
#holocaust
#israel
#romania
llevangta@...
If you send me your email I will forward it to you.Could you send it to me too? It’d be much help..! llevangelista.ibms@... Lailah Lebedenco Evangelista |
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llevangta@...
Hey everyone!
I am looking for any information about my maternal family called LEBEDENKO or POPOV who lived in Moldova.
I know some first names: Kiril LEBEDENKO my Moldavian greatgrandfather (born on 1894), married around 1920 to Fidorka/Feodora POPOV, my Romanian greatgrandmother (born on 1900) in the city of Nikolaevka, Moldova, where Kiril was born. Then the couple immigrated to Brazil, probably from Deutschland... one of them must have their names somewhere in the Hamburg Passenger Lists, though I couldn’t find it...
Kiril’s father was Afanásio LEBEDENKO who was son of Yahim LEBEDENKO, his mother is unknown. Afanásio married Ksenia SEMENICHEN/SEMENIKIN, daughter of Halimon SEMENIKIN & Feudocia (I don’t have registration of any of her surnames before her marriage to Halimon).
Fidorka/Feodora‘s parents were Gerassin/Heracin POPOV, son of Miheika POPOV & Parankia CERKASSIN, & Anna BULGACOV, daughter of Grigori BULGACOV & Marfa/Marhutka YASTREBOV. Any of their names, if are there any translations or anyone could explain the differing names for the same people, it’d be great help, I would love to have them in Russian as well... No matter how much information, if any, contact me please!!! Lailah Lebedenco Evangelista, from Brazil |
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Translation from Russian - Pictures (LEBEDENKO/LEBEDENCO family)
#photographs
#russia
#romania
#translation
#ukraine
llevangta@...
Can anyone translate the banners & subtitles for me? And if you have any idea of what is going on in the pictures please help understand it! All I know is that they have something to do with my family, lebedenko (lebedenco at Brazil) who lived in the USSR, not sure if Ukraine or Romania... if you recognize any of the places please let me know as well! One of the pics has numbers on it, not sure why, but I’m trying to find out... the other has some names, if could translate them as well, it’d be great!!!
Thanks for Everything! Lailah Lebedenco Evangelista P.s. Some other surnames I’m looking for are POPOV, SEMENIKIN, BULGACOV, GORSKA, SEMENICHEN, YASTREBOV & CERKASSIN please contact me if you know anything about them! & if you recognize any of the pictures, please do too!!             |
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