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Re: looking for GOLDENZWEIG formerly from Montreal #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Janette Silverman (jsilverman@janette-silverman.com) posted about
the GOLDENZWEIG family of Montreal

I found records of Goldenzweigs through 1939 and then they
disappear >from Montreal, at least in the directories I could
figure out how to search online.
I was at the National Library of Canada and checked the original
paper directories.
The 1939/40 directory listed a Nat Goldenzweig with a business address
on St. Dominique St. and residence on Blvd. Decarie (near Sherbrooke).
In 1940 and 1941, he was not listed in the alphabetical index but
was listed at the Decarie address.
In 1942, the address was listed as Mrs Nat Goldenzweig widow Nat.
This continued until 1946 when she became Mrs Nat Gold.
from 1950 to 1956 she was Mrs F Gold widow Nat,
and in 1957 the house was occupied by an Eve Gold, after which the
house appeared to have no connection with the Gold family.

Going back to 1938, I found Nat Goldenzweig living at Decarie but
trading, probably, as Nat Gold on St. Dominique.

There were certainly more Goldenzweigs in earlier years; possibly
other family members became Golds.

Harry Dodsworth, Ottawa, Canada - af877@freenet.carleton.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: looking for GOLDENZWEIG formerly from Montreal #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Janette Silverman (jsilverman@janette-silverman.com) posted about
the GOLDENZWEIG family of Montreal

I found records of Goldenzweigs through 1939 and then they
disappear >from Montreal, at least in the directories I could
figure out how to search online.
I was at the National Library of Canada and checked the original
paper directories.
The 1939/40 directory listed a Nat Goldenzweig with a business address
on St. Dominique St. and residence on Blvd. Decarie (near Sherbrooke).
In 1940 and 1941, he was not listed in the alphabetical index but
was listed at the Decarie address.
In 1942, the address was listed as Mrs Nat Goldenzweig widow Nat.
This continued until 1946 when she became Mrs Nat Gold.
from 1950 to 1956 she was Mrs F Gold widow Nat,
and in 1957 the house was occupied by an Eve Gold, after which the
house appeared to have no connection with the Gold family.

Going back to 1938, I found Nat Goldenzweig living at Decarie but
trading, probably, as Nat Gold on St. Dominique.

There were certainly more Goldenzweigs in earlier years; possibly
other family members became Golds.

Harry Dodsworth, Ottawa, Canada - af877@freenet.carleton.ca


Re: Oreh, Russia #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

Can someone tell me where Oreh, Russia is? One of my relatives is >from
there. They actually lived in Teleneshty and Kamenka but gave their place
of birth as Oreh. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold
---
Sender: "Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>
Or maybe "Orel"?

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Oreh, Russia #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

Can someone tell me where Oreh, Russia is? One of my relatives is >from
there. They actually lived in Teleneshty and Kamenka but gave their place
of birth as Oreh. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold
---
Sender: "Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>
Or maybe "Orel"?

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJTRS@aol.com wrote:

<< All we know is that her name is Rachel and she lives in
Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha. This Rachel would be related to us through
the KREINES family. Does anybody want to help me find this woman? >>
Regarding Ma'aleh ha-Hamishah, which means "The Ascent of the Five",
people might like to know that this kibbutz, not far >from Jerusalem
in the Judaean Hills, was founded in 1938 by Polish-Jewish halutzim
from the Gordonia movement in Lodz. The name of the kibbutz
commemorates five of its halutzim (pioneers), who were killed in an
ambush by Arabs while working nearby to reclaiming land and plant a
forest there .

I wonder how many JGenners still recall the long and beautiful
dirge about "The Five" that was sung in the Zionist Youth movements
more than 50 years ago. It began thus:

Hamishah yats'u moledet livnot -- hamishah
Ba-bayit azvu 'em ve-ahot, tinoq ve-ishah
"Five went forth to build a homeland -- five....
At home they left a mother, a sister, a baby and a wife....

and went on to describe the ambush in graphic detail. I still
remember every word of it!

We should mourn the passing of songs like this. They were lengthy,
and thus provided most of the Hebrew vocabulary I learned as a
teenager. But nobody sings these songs today -- people seem prefer
songs that comprise a single biblical verse chanted over and over --
which does little to enhance one's Hebrew vocabulary. Sic transit
gloria!

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: Please keep responses related to genealogy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJTRS@aol.com wrote:

<< All we know is that her name is Rachel and she lives in
Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha. This Rachel would be related to us through
the KREINES family. Does anybody want to help me find this woman? >>
Regarding Ma'aleh ha-Hamishah, which means "The Ascent of the Five",
people might like to know that this kibbutz, not far >from Jerusalem
in the Judaean Hills, was founded in 1938 by Polish-Jewish halutzim
from the Gordonia movement in Lodz. The name of the kibbutz
commemorates five of its halutzim (pioneers), who were killed in an
ambush by Arabs while working nearby to reclaiming land and plant a
forest there .

I wonder how many JGenners still recall the long and beautiful
dirge about "The Five" that was sung in the Zionist Youth movements
more than 50 years ago. It began thus:

Hamishah yats'u moledet livnot -- hamishah
Ba-bayit azvu 'em ve-ahot, tinoq ve-ishah
"Five went forth to build a homeland -- five....
At home they left a mother, a sister, a baby and a wife....

and went on to describe the ambush in graphic detail. I still
remember every word of it!

We should mourn the passing of songs like this. They were lengthy,
and thus provided most of the Hebrew vocabulary I learned as a
teenager. But nobody sings these songs today -- people seem prefer
songs that comprise a single biblical verse chanted over and over --
which does little to enhance one's Hebrew vocabulary. Sic transit
gloria!

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: Please keep responses related to genealogy.


EPSTEIN Family Y-DNA Study #unitedkingdom

Itzhak Epstein
 

Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree JewishGen surname project.
Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being used as a promising
tool for breaking through our genealogical brick walls. It might help you
to greatly expand your family tree, and may also help our surname project.

EPSTEIN is a popular Ashkenazi surname. JewishGen Family Finder's listings
indicate that its EPSTEIN researchers' interests are concentrated in
Belarus, Lithuania, and the nearby parts of Poland; and, as they get further
away, they are more moderately represented in eastern and central Europe.
So far, most of our project's members' recent direct male ancestors are from
Belarus or nearby areas in Poland, Lithuania, and=20
the Ukraine. Around a century
ago, many EPSTEINs emigrated >from Eastern Europe, and the British Isles seem
to have received a significant share. There is,=20
for instance, about one English
EPSTEIN Family Finder entry for every three US entries.

We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the
Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line.
Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally unrelated
to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered patrilineal
relationships to men whose surnames are not EPSTEIN. Most of us trace
our ancestry to eastern Europe, and only two to Germany.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster,
on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated
members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad
a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a
cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN
through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can
represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share
this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project.

To join, go to http://tinyurl.com/nyh6z
The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test will indicate to whom
you are probably related. The more advanced tests could help to identify
closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test
and add to it at a later date, using the same sample.

If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's
volunteer administrator at epsteindna_admin@earthlink.net

Itzhak Epstein New York, NY
iegen@earthlink.net


Professional lists #unitedkingdom

David Kravitz
 

Susan Goldsmith asked "Is there a UK national list for professions (if one
does not know the city where the person is located)? "

All UK public libraries with a reference section have lists for all
professions. If you are not a resident in the UK, you could ask someone to
do a look-up and many librarians are helpful enough to do so as well.

Assuming that both people ypu ask about are still in practice, you could
write to the Law Society in London who would supply you with the
professional address of a solicitor or barrister. Likewise with a dentist in
NHS practice, try the British Dental Society. Both can be found in London,
use Google for their addresses.

There is also a website called www.192.com where many of their look-up
services are free.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom EPSTEIN Family Y-DNA Study #unitedkingdom

Itzhak Epstein
 

Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree JewishGen surname project.
Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being used as a promising
tool for breaking through our genealogical brick walls. It might help you
to greatly expand your family tree, and may also help our surname project.

EPSTEIN is a popular Ashkenazi surname. JewishGen Family Finder's listings
indicate that its EPSTEIN researchers' interests are concentrated in
Belarus, Lithuania, and the nearby parts of Poland; and, as they get further
away, they are more moderately represented in eastern and central Europe.
So far, most of our project's members' recent direct male ancestors are from
Belarus or nearby areas in Poland, Lithuania, and=20
the Ukraine. Around a century
ago, many EPSTEINs emigrated >from Eastern Europe, and the British Isles seem
to have received a significant share. There is,=20
for instance, about one English
EPSTEIN Family Finder entry for every three US entries.

We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the
Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line.
Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally unrelated
to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered patrilineal
relationships to men whose surnames are not EPSTEIN. Most of us trace
our ancestry to eastern Europe, and only two to Germany.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster,
on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated
members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad
a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a
cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN
through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can
represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share
this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project.

To join, go to http://tinyurl.com/nyh6z
The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test will indicate to whom
you are probably related. The more advanced tests could help to identify
closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test
and add to it at a later date, using the same sample.

If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's
volunteer administrator at epsteindna_admin@earthlink.net

Itzhak Epstein New York, NY
iegen@earthlink.net


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Professional lists #unitedkingdom

David Kravitz
 

Susan Goldsmith asked "Is there a UK national list for professions (if one
does not know the city where the person is located)? "

All UK public libraries with a reference section have lists for all
professions. If you are not a resident in the UK, you could ask someone to
do a look-up and many librarians are helpful enough to do so as well.

Assuming that both people ypu ask about are still in practice, you could
write to the Law Society in London who would supply you with the
professional address of a solicitor or barrister. Likewise with a dentist in
NHS practice, try the British Dental Society. Both can be found in London,
use Google for their addresses.

There is also a website called www.192.com where many of their look-up
services are free.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


Re: Plymouth and Northants in WW1 #unitedkingdom

BP Bergman <bergville@...>
 

< His Regimental no. was 60225.

We have a letter dated 17.6.1919 >from the Colonel I/C
Labour Corps Records, Nottingham, stating no.60225 is
for a G. Smith.>

Don't forget that at the time of the First World War, regimental numbers
could be re-issued to someone else. Today they are all unique, although
someone may have more than one at various times - either if they are
commissioned, when their number will change >from a soldier's number (8
digits) to an officer's number (6 digits), or occasionally if they leave the
Army and then rejoin without declaring their previous service.

Beverly Bergman
Camberley UK


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Plymouth and Northants in WW1 #unitedkingdom

BP Bergman <bergville@...>
 

< His Regimental no. was 60225.

We have a letter dated 17.6.1919 >from the Colonel I/C
Labour Corps Records, Nottingham, stating no.60225 is
for a G. Smith.>

Don't forget that at the time of the First World War, regimental numbers
could be re-issued to someone else. Today they are all unique, although
someone may have more than one at various times - either if they are
commissioned, when their number will change >from a soldier's number (8
digits) to an officer's number (6 digits), or occasionally if they leave the
Army and then rejoin without declaring their previous service.

Beverly Bergman
Camberley UK


ceremonies dedicated to the opening of new monuments in Belarus #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Dear All,

Jewish Community of Belarus together with Charitable
Fund of Mark Lazarus (England) continues to erect
memorial monuments on unknown before places of mass
execution of Jews during World War 2.

Ceremony dedicated to the opening of a new monument
in town Novoelnya of Grodno region has been scheduled
on June 25 at 1 p.m. This monument commemorates lives
of more than 850 Jews who were executed during WW2.

The next ceremony will be held at Dyatlovo (former
Zhetl) Jewish cemetery, were where reburied remains of
56 Jews >from Dvorets shtetl. It will take place on
June 25 at 2.30p.m.

On June 26 at 12p.m, the last ceremony is going to
take place in Smolevichi, where more than
2,000 Jews were killed by Nazis.

It is also planned to restore the monument of 55
Holocaust victims in village Dolmatovschina
until the end of June.

To obtain more information on coming events please
contact us at belshtetl@yahoo.com


Yuri Dorn,
Co-chairman for of the Committee for the Preservation
Of the Memory of Holocaust Victims in the
Republic of Belarus.


Belarus SIG #Belarus ceremonies dedicated to the opening of new monuments in Belarus #belarus

JHRG of Belarus <belshtetl@...>
 

Dear All,

Jewish Community of Belarus together with Charitable
Fund of Mark Lazarus (England) continues to erect
memorial monuments on unknown before places of mass
execution of Jews during World War 2.

Ceremony dedicated to the opening of a new monument
in town Novoelnya of Grodno region has been scheduled
on June 25 at 1 p.m. This monument commemorates lives
of more than 850 Jews who were executed during WW2.

The next ceremony will be held at Dyatlovo (former
Zhetl) Jewish cemetery, were where reburied remains of
56 Jews >from Dvorets shtetl. It will take place on
June 25 at 2.30p.m.

On June 26 at 12p.m, the last ceremony is going to
take place in Smolevichi, where more than
2,000 Jews were killed by Nazis.

It is also planned to restore the monument of 55
Holocaust victims in village Dolmatovschina
until the end of June.

To obtain more information on coming events please
contact us at belshtetl@yahoo.com


Yuri Dorn,
Co-chairman for of the Committee for the Preservation
Of the Memory of Holocaust Victims in the
Republic of Belarus.


FELDMAN from Puchavicki #belarus

Alanjfel@...
 

Attn: Rose Feldman

A long shot- I have had very litte luck in finding any information
on my family.
Would your family have any connection to Puchavicki Belarus?
This is where my family emigrated to the US about 1900.

Thanks

Alan Feldman
alanjfel@aol.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus FELDMAN from Puchavicki #belarus

Alanjfel@...
 

Attn: Rose Feldman

A long shot- I have had very litte luck in finding any information
on my family.
Would your family have any connection to Puchavicki Belarus?
This is where my family emigrated to the US about 1900.

Thanks

Alan Feldman
alanjfel@aol.com


Re: Surname TOTH #hungary

SFeuerstein <ethnoca@...>
 

From: Laura Steele <lsteele6@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:55:53 -0400

Does anyone know the derivation of the surname of
Toth?
It means Slovak.
At least that is what it means today. But apparently
way back in the Middle Ages Hungarians used to call
every Slav "tót". :)

This form, with the h at the end is just an affected,
gentrified spelling, which in time became its standard
form.

Sarah Feuerstein
Toronto, Canada


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Surname TOTH #hungary

SFeuerstein <ethnoca@...>
 

From: Laura Steele <lsteele6@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:55:53 -0400

Does anyone know the derivation of the surname of
Toth?
It means Slovak.
At least that is what it means today. But apparently
way back in the Middle Ages Hungarians used to call
every Slav "tót". :)

This form, with the h at the end is just an affected,
gentrified spelling, which in time became its standard
form.

Sarah Feuerstein
Toronto, Canada


The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference #germany

GerSig@...
 

The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will provide a wide range of electronic, print, microfilm, and
human resources to assist attendees with their research.

Computer services and databases will include....

* access to Ancestry.com, HeritageQuest census records, the New York
Times(1857=C2=AD2000) and newspaper archives and Godfrey Library's collection of
online databases

* U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Database - (three million records normally
available only at the Museum) and the Shoah Foundation's Visual History
Archive search tool and testimony catalog

* Manhattan Brides Index (the data entered so far in the Genealogy
Federation of Long Island project to index 1,400,000 marriage licenses by
bride's name)

* Memorial Database of Jewish Soldiers, Partisans and Workers Killed in
Action during Nazism (a searchable database of Jews in the Russian army
killed and missing in action during WWII)

Among the 100-plus books and other print materials on hand will be...

* dozens of reference books on general and Jewish genealogy, Jewish and New
York history, immigration, translation, cemetery research, rabbinic research,
the Holocaust and a large collection of volumes on Jewish Bialystok

* large scale insurance maps of New York's old Lower East Side and a variety
of historical and modern maps of Europe

* the Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute Fact Sheets

* individual research projects

We are also delighted to offer...

* a large collection of microfilm of Jewish interest usually housed at the
Woodside (Queens) Family History Center - including the Hamburg Emigration
Lists - and 10 microfilm readers on which to view the them

Plus we welcome the participation in the Resource Room of...

* translators to interpret documents in Russian, Polish, Spanish, Hebrew,
Yiddish, and other languages

* representatives of Ancestry.com in the Resource Room to assist in using
that site and representatives of the Shoah Foundation, available for
consultation

Please check the Resource Room page on the Conference website
(www.jgsny2006.org/resource_room.cfm) for details, additional items, and
updates. If you have material to share, please contact us at
resources@jgsny2006.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund glory1@RCN.COM
26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair


German SIG #Germany The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference #germany

GerSig@...
 

The Resource Room at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy will provide a wide range of electronic, print, microfilm, and
human resources to assist attendees with their research.

Computer services and databases will include....

* access to Ancestry.com, HeritageQuest census records, the New York
Times(1857=C2=AD2000) and newspaper archives and Godfrey Library's collection of
online databases

* U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum Database - (three million records normally
available only at the Museum) and the Shoah Foundation's Visual History
Archive search tool and testimony catalog

* Manhattan Brides Index (the data entered so far in the Genealogy
Federation of Long Island project to index 1,400,000 marriage licenses by
bride's name)

* Memorial Database of Jewish Soldiers, Partisans and Workers Killed in
Action during Nazism (a searchable database of Jews in the Russian army
killed and missing in action during WWII)

Among the 100-plus books and other print materials on hand will be...

* dozens of reference books on general and Jewish genealogy, Jewish and New
York history, immigration, translation, cemetery research, rabbinic research,
the Holocaust and a large collection of volumes on Jewish Bialystok

* large scale insurance maps of New York's old Lower East Side and a variety
of historical and modern maps of Europe

* the Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute Fact Sheets

* individual research projects

We are also delighted to offer...

* a large collection of microfilm of Jewish interest usually housed at the
Woodside (Queens) Family History Center - including the Hamburg Emigration
Lists - and 10 microfilm readers on which to view the them

Plus we welcome the participation in the Resource Room of...

* translators to interpret documents in Russian, Polish, Spanish, Hebrew,
Yiddish, and other languages

* representatives of Ancestry.com in the Resource Room to assist in using
that site and representatives of the Shoah Foundation, available for
consultation

Please check the Resource Room page on the Conference website
(www.jgsny2006.org/resource_room.cfm) for details, additional items, and
updates. If you have material to share, please contact us at
resources@jgsny2006.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund glory1@RCN.COM
26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair