I am investigating for Carine Schenkel (the daughter of a prominent attorney in
Strasbourg who passed away last year there, one of the top Holocaust
indemnification attorneys) and her mother her Padawer family genealogy
as well as my connection to it. The couple and their children were born
and raised in Strasbourg France. Attorney Schenkel was descended as am I

from the Noda Byehuda. The Noda Byehuda was the ancestor of my father's

mother Kaila Yita Prag who came >from Lodz Poland. The Noda Byehuda was
descended >from the Maharam MiPadua. I have plenty of information on his
family tree. Carine Schenkel's mother's father's name was Yisrael Chaim Padawer,
a Kohen who was the son of a Shmuel Moshe. Yisrael Chaim Padawer we know
was descended >from the Maharam MiPadua through Rabbi Shaul Wahl
"King of Poland for a day" as was the Noda Byehuda. We don't know how
for her Padawer family though since Yisrael Chaim Padawer was a Kohen it
was >from a female line. Carine says that her Padawer family was living in
Poland near Cracow, "in Denbitz and Kol Buchova." We would like to know if
Yisrael Chaim Padawer's grandparents came >from Padua Italy.
Thank you

Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A.

I am investigating for Carine Schenkel (the daughter of a prominent attorney in
Strasbourg who passed away last year there, one of the top Holocaust
indemnification attorneys) and her mother her Padawer family genealogy
as well as my connection to it. The couple and their children were born
and raised in Strasbourg France. Attorney Schenkel was descended as am I

from the Noda Byehuda. The Noda Byehuda was the ancestor of my father's

mother Kaila Yita Prag who came >from Lodz Poland. The Noda Byehuda was
descended >from the Maharam MiPadua. I have plenty of information on his
family tree. Carine Schenkel's mother's father's name was Yisrael Chaim Padawer,
a Kohen who was the son of a Shmuel Moshe. Yisrael Chaim Padawer we know
was descended >from the Maharam MiPadua through Rabbi Shaul Wahl
"King of Poland for a day" as was the Noda Byehuda. We don't know how
for her Padawer family though since Yisrael Chaim Padawer was a Kohen it
was >from a female line. Carine says that her Padawer family was living in
Poland near Cracow, "in Denbitz and Kol Buchova." We would like to know if
Yisrael Chaim Padawer's grandparents came >from Padua Italy.
Thank you

Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A.

I recently visited New Mexico and, in the airport bookstore in Albuquerque,
I located a biography of a woman who is said to have been one of the more
famous gamblers of the American West.

I found the concept fascinating, a woman who chose a career unknown to women
in an era when women were not welcome in the work force and, to do so, moved
to a place where decent women rarely dared to go. Thus, I bought this
biography, LOTTIE DENO: GAMBLING QUEEN OF HEARTS by Cynthia ROSE, published Clear
Light Publishers of Santa Fe, New Mexico. (I have no connection with either
this author or this publisher.)

Of course, I never anticipated that there would be a Jewish connection to
Lottie's story, but a Jewish connection usually seems to find me.

Lottie (born Carlotta THOMPKINS) was the daughter of a rich planter in
antebellum Kentucky; her father also bred and raced horses.

His jockey was one Johnny GOLDEN, who was Jewish. According to the author,
Golden is thought to have come >from either Boston (Massachusetts) or the
State of Georgia.

Lottie's father died in the Civil War and his family was left destitute.
Lottie had fallen in love with Golden and, together, they moved west. The
author speculates that Lottie's surviving family may have disowned Lottie for her
plan to marry a Jew. Additionally, the author speculates that Lottie's
father may have been a Sephardic Jew himself, but she presents no solid proof of
this theory.

Lottie never married Golden, and she and the man she would marry eventually
helped form the town of Deming, New Mexico.

In Deming, one of Lottie's closest friends was *Helen* LINDAUER, the female
head of the town's Jewish family. This is the reason that I am posting this
submission. ROSE has included some wonderful photographs here, including two
of this same family. The given names of the LINDAUER family of Deming, New
Mexico, as provided in this biography, are *Bertha,* "Sigmund,* *Herman,*
*Sam,* *Lillian* and *Helen,* and the author includes some interview excerpts as
well.

So, if anyone is looking for a family named LINDAUER, here's an unexpected
place to search.

I am posting this letter to the Hungarian and Austrian-Czech SIGs, based on
the combined first and last names of this family. If there is a German SIG,
it probably should post there, too.

regards,
Judy SEGAL
New York City

I recently visited New Mexico and, in the airport bookstore in Albuquerque,
I located a biography of a woman who is said to have been one of the more
famous gamblers of the American West.

I found the concept fascinating, a woman who chose a career unknown to women
in an era when women were not welcome in the work force and, to do so, moved
to a place where decent women rarely dared to go. Thus, I bought this
biography, LOTTIE DENO: GAMBLING QUEEN OF HEARTS by Cynthia ROSE, published Clear
Light Publishers of Santa Fe, New Mexico. (I have no connection with either
this author or this publisher.)

Of course, I never anticipated that there would be a Jewish connection to
Lottie's story, but a Jewish connection usually seems to find me.

Lottie (born Carlotta THOMPKINS) was the daughter of a rich planter in
antebellum Kentucky; her father also bred and raced horses.

His jockey was one Johnny GOLDEN, who was Jewish. According to the author,
Golden is thought to have come >from either Boston (Massachusetts) or the
State of Georgia.

Lottie's father died in the Civil War and his family was left destitute.
Lottie had fallen in love with Golden and, together, they moved west. The
author speculates that Lottie's surviving family may have disowned Lottie for her
plan to marry a Jew. Additionally, the author speculates that Lottie's
father may have been a Sephardic Jew himself, but she presents no solid proof of
this theory.

Lottie never married Golden, and she and the man she would marry eventually
helped form the town of Deming, New Mexico.

In Deming, one of Lottie's closest friends was *Helen* LINDAUER, the female
head of the town's Jewish family. This is the reason that I am posting this
submission. ROSE has included some wonderful photographs here, including two
of this same family. The given names of the LINDAUER family of Deming, New
Mexico, as provided in this biography, are *Bertha,* "Sigmund,* *Herman,*
*Sam,* *Lillian* and *Helen,* and the author includes some interview excerpts as
well.

So, if anyone is looking for a family named LINDAUER, here's an unexpected
place to search.

I am posting this letter to the Hungarian and Austrian-Czech SIGs, based on
the combined first and last names of this family. If there is a German SIG,
it probably should post there, too.

regards,
Judy SEGAL
New York City

An aside in one of Celia Male's emails on the
ASCHKENES family of Kostel has led to discovery of
some additional connections among SIG members hunting
in Moravia. To recap:

We have more interesting links as Julia NEUMANN [sister of
Johann] married Leopold NEUSPIEL [born 30 Aug 1844 Eisgrub/
Lednice] on 26 May 1872 in Kostel. They had 12 NEUSPIEL
children! Eva has sent me a NEUSPIEL tree going back to
abt 1726 in Eisbrub. It is linked to names TICHY and
BRUNNER.

One of the 12 NEUSPIEL children was Hedwig,
grandmother of our SIG member Eva Browne. Another was
Rosa, who married Albert GLUCK (u with umlaut) in
September 1906 and settled in Goeding/Hodonin. This
Albert is brother of my great-grandfather Wilhelm
GLUCK. Albert and Rosa's children were known
personally by SIG member Dr Hans Weigl.

My GLUCK family originates in Strassnitz/Straznice,
where it is closely tied by marriage to the REISS and
FELBER families. Alas, no known connection yet to the
GLUCK family of Breclav on Dr Weigl's tree.

Sally Goodman fits in too via the NEUSPIEL family.
Celia remarked in an email to me,

In the end all the Moravian SIG members will be on
this ASCHKENES tree via marriage links.

I know she was kidding, but it's not far >from the
truth. For myself, I've yet to discover a single
direct connection to any SIG member, but marriage
connections abound!

-- Michael Gordy
Hyderabad, India

An aside in one of Celia Male's emails on the
ASCHKENES family of Kostel has led to discovery of
some additional connections among SIG members hunting
in Moravia. To recap:

We have more interesting links as Julia NEUMANN [sister of
Johann] married Leopold NEUSPIEL [born 30 Aug 1844 Eisgrub/
Lednice] on 26 May 1872 in Kostel. They had 12 NEUSPIEL
children! Eva has sent me a NEUSPIEL tree going back to
abt 1726 in Eisbrub. It is linked to names TICHY and
BRUNNER.

One of the 12 NEUSPIEL children was Hedwig,
grandmother of our SIG member Eva Browne. Another was
Rosa, who married Albert GLUCK (u with umlaut) in
September 1906 and settled in Goeding/Hodonin. This
Albert is brother of my great-grandfather Wilhelm
GLUCK. Albert and Rosa's children were known
personally by SIG member Dr Hans Weigl.

My GLUCK family originates in Strassnitz/Straznice,
where it is closely tied by marriage to the REISS and
FELBER families. Alas, no known connection yet to the
GLUCK family of Breclav on Dr Weigl's tree.

Sally Goodman fits in too via the NEUSPIEL family.
Celia remarked in an email to me,

In the end all the Moravian SIG members will be on
this ASCHKENES tree via marriage links.

I know she was kidding, but it's not far >from the
truth. For myself, I've yet to discover a single
direct connection to any SIG member, but marriage
connections abound!

-- Michael Gordy
Hyderabad, India

Thanks again to Celia who traced my grandmother to
Sussex in 1939.
It would seem that she then went to London and
worked in the area of rebuilding facial wounds
(she had several years medical training in Vienna)
in Queen Anne St (Corner of Harley St ). Is there
any way of tracing this? It would also seem that
she died in London.

Other information that ties in with the other
current subjects:

Moishe and Dreise(née ???) KRAFT in Bucarest(?)
had 6 children Avrum, Dina, David, Ely Hersh,
Sureh, & Jacob. Moishe was a specialist in
"Cristal de Bohème". Dreise was >from Czech.

Jacob KRAFT first married Chaya NEWMANN and had
five children: Joseph (killed in WW1), Chaim,
Pepi, Tika, and Sika (my grandmother) who married
Wolf FRIEDLANDER.
Avrum KRAFT married Babbe (née ???) and one of
their children Mier Leib KRAFT married Rosa
NEWMANN. They had 2 children Benno and Lydia
(Lydsa), who would be in Chicago.

Please tell me if I am doing this the right way????
Please feel free to use any of this.
Regards to all,
Marc Piel

Thanks again to Celia who traced my grandmother to
Sussex in 1939.
It would seem that she then went to London and
worked in the area of rebuilding facial wounds
(she had several years medical training in Vienna)
in Queen Anne St (Corner of Harley St ). Is there
any way of tracing this? It would also seem that
she died in London.

Other information that ties in with the other
current subjects:

Moishe and Dreise(née ???) KRAFT in Bucarest(?)
had 6 children Avrum, Dina, David, Ely Hersh,
Sureh, & Jacob. Moishe was a specialist in
"Cristal de Bohème". Dreise was >from Czech.

Jacob KRAFT first married Chaya NEWMANN and had
five children: Joseph (killed in WW1), Chaim,
Pepi, Tika, and Sika (my grandmother) who married
Wolf FRIEDLANDER.
Avrum KRAFT married Babbe (née ???) and one of
their children Mier Leib KRAFT married Rosa
NEWMANN. They had 2 children Benno and Lydia
(Lydsa), who would be in Chicago.

Please tell me if I am doing this the right way????
Please feel free to use any of this.
Regards to all,
Marc Piel

Claire Bruell wrote, and I have her permission to quote: <Saw your last
posting. [re ASCHKENES tree and the link to BERGER of Leipnik]. My BERGER
ggrandparents lived in Wallachisch Meseritch [Val.Mezirici] but the family
moved there >from Hranice [Weisskirchen]. I also have information that great
great grandfather
Joseph BERGER headed the Yeshivah at Leipnik. Family talk has it that
he studied under the famous talmudic teacher, Baruch FRANKEL there.
Please keep me in the loop if you discover any connections with the BERGER>.

This is all I know re the ASCHKENES-BERGER link:

Isak ASCHKENES of Kostel [1770-1831] had three sons:

1. Simon ASCHKENES I, born 1804 married Feigele ?
2. Abraham ASCHKENES married Anna BERGER >from Leipnik. Abraham was probably
born abt 1810
3. Solomon ASCHKENES born 1814. A Jewish judge in Kostel. He witnessed the
birth certificate that started all this! He married Sofie GRAF.

Simon I is the gt-gt grandfather of our Sigger, Hans Weigl. Simon I was
tragically killed by lightening before his son, Simon II was born on June 16th
1828.

Abraham had three girls and two boys linked to: Husbands: SAX LOWY BENEDICT
Wives: SACHS MANDL respectively.

Solomon ASCHKENES is the grandfather of Pauline ASCHKENES [holocaust victim]
who married Moritz WENGRAF of Krems [Wolf-Erich Eckstein's tree].

Celia Male [U.K.]

PS: Just found this interesting item re Leipnik and an illustrated Haggadah
Illustrator Joseph ben David of Leipnik {1739-1740]:

http://listserv.biu.ac.il/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503&L=lookstein&T=0&P=327

Claire Bruell wrote, and I have her permission to quote: <Saw your last
posting. [re ASCHKENES tree and the link to BERGER of Leipnik]. My BERGER
ggrandparents lived in Wallachisch Meseritch [Val.Mezirici] but the family
moved there >from Hranice [Weisskirchen]. I also have information that great
great grandfather
Joseph BERGER headed the Yeshivah at Leipnik. Family talk has it that
he studied under the famous talmudic teacher, Baruch FRANKEL there.
Please keep me in the loop if you discover any connections with the BERGER>.

This is all I know re the ASCHKENES-BERGER link:

Isak ASCHKENES of Kostel [1770-1831] had three sons:

1. Simon ASCHKENES I, born 1804 married Feigele ?
2. Abraham ASCHKENES married Anna BERGER >from Leipnik. Abraham was probably
born abt 1810
3. Solomon ASCHKENES born 1814. A Jewish judge in Kostel. He witnessed the
birth certificate that started all this! He married Sofie GRAF.

Simon I is the gt-gt grandfather of our Sigger, Hans Weigl. Simon I was
tragically killed by lightening before his son, Simon II was born on June 16th
1828.

Abraham had three girls and two boys linked to: Husbands: SAX LOWY BENEDICT
Wives: SACHS MANDL respectively.

Solomon ASCHKENES is the grandfather of Pauline ASCHKENES [holocaust victim]
who married Moritz WENGRAF of Krems [Wolf-Erich Eckstein's tree].

Celia Male [U.K.]

PS: Just found this interesting item re Leipnik and an illustrated Haggadah
Illustrator Joseph ben David of Leipnik {1739-1740]:

http://listserv.biu.ac.il/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503&L=lookstein&T=0&P=327

Can anyone help me to discover anything about Freda and Aileen and Leon
(or Leonard) Schneider who are brother and sisters I think Aileen Schneider
may have married, about Leon I do not know. They would have been born
between 1905 and 1910 not sure which town but possibly Port Elizabeth.
Father's name was Henry Schneider
Thank you

Phyllis

Can anyone help me to discover anything about Freda and Aileen and Leon
(or Leonard) Schneider who are brother and sisters I think Aileen Schneider
may have married, about Leon I do not know. They would have been born
between 1905 and 1910 not sure which town but possibly Port Elizabeth.
Father's name was Henry Schneider
Thank you

Phyllis

Ernie Durra, of Cape Town, South Africa, asked about the current status of the
publication AUFBAU and whether it still offers support to family research.

About two years ago the publishing house Juedische Medien AG, in Zurich,
Switzerland, bought the name of the defunct New York newspaper AUFBAU. Since then
it has been publishing the magazine on a monthly basis, in German, under the
editorship of Yves Kugelmann. Each monthly issue has a main theme, around which
about a dozen articles are grouped. The themes of the three most recent issues
have been Budapest, global warming, and the Other America (meaning Latin America).

In the current issue, October 2006, AUFBAU's new owners resumed publication of
the "Searching for..." column, which can be used for family-related queries.
The editor tells me that this column will be a regular part of future issues,
and that before long the column also will appear on the magazine's website:
http://www.aufbauonline.com/

Queries intended for the search column, and other correspondence,
should be addressed to <redaktion@...> .

Ralph B. Hirsch, in Celle, Germany <hirsch@...>

Ernie Durra, of Cape Town, South Africa, asked about the current status of the
publication AUFBAU and whether it still offers support to family research.

About two years ago the publishing house Juedische Medien AG, in Zurich,
Switzerland, bought the name of the defunct New York newspaper AUFBAU. Since then
it has been publishing the magazine on a monthly basis, in German, under the
editorship of Yves Kugelmann. Each monthly issue has a main theme, around which
about a dozen articles are grouped. The themes of the three most recent issues
have been Budapest, global warming, and the Other America (meaning Latin America).

In the current issue, October 2006, AUFBAU's new owners resumed publication of
the "Searching for..." column, which can be used for family-related queries.
The editor tells me that this column will be a regular part of future issues,
and that before long the column also will appear on the magazine's website:
http://www.aufbauonline.com/

Queries intended for the search column, and other correspondence,
should be addressed to <redaktion@...> .

Ralph B. Hirsch, in Celle, Germany <hirsch@...>

Can someone in Israel do a telephone lookup for me? I have the names but
don't know where they live in Israel. Please contact me privately. Thanks
in advance for your help. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) MILTER-Kodima (Moldova)
KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)elp. Marilyn Feingold

Can someone in Israel do a telephone lookup for me? I have the names but
don't know where they live in Israel. Please contact me privately. Thanks
in advance for your help. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) MILTER-Kodima (Moldova)
KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)elp. Marilyn Feingold

Regarding my post about searching for descendants, whoops sorry made
a mistake, it is the ancestors of the SILVER/SVIDLERS family that I
am interested in!

B. Shiel (email: blspabas@...)
Looking for ancestors of SILVER, SVIDLER, SVIDLERS family

Dear Belarus SIG,

I am looking for any missing information at all about my father's maternal
side of his family who had roots in Belarus and/or Riga.

Married to Myer SHIEL, my grandmother's name was Rachel (Ray) SILVER, born
in 1896. Rachel came to live in London, England, in 1912 >from either Riga
or >from somewhere to the south of Riga. One of her brothers Solomon (Solly)
also emigrated to London, but her other brother, Mendel, stayed behind. I
do not have any further information about Mendel but he may have been
married.

Rachel's mother Malka ("Milly", "Bobby") SILVER died in London in 1933.
Malka's father's first name may have been Gothlif, and he may have had
connections with the town called Chashnik. Malka had 5 siblings (Isaac,
Balia, Boris, Tzaudic, and Kalia). I do not have any further information
about Malka or Gothlif.

Malka was married to Bernard Lewis SILVER. Bernard's surname was originally
SVIDLER or SVIDLERS. Bernard was a Rabbi, he had Siddurs published in
London and in 1912 lived in Beaumont Square, Mile End, London, where Bernard
died aged 58 in 1915.

Bernard's father's Hebrew first and/or middle names may have been Yehuda,
Leib, Bar, Beryl or Moshe. Bernard's parents may have been very religous
and they may have been born and lived in the Belarus region, or Riga or
elsewhere.

Bernard had at least 2 other siblings, one of which I know nothing about,
but the other was a brother called Shmuel, Sam or Solomon SVIDLERS, who also
came to live in London >from Riga and died between 1935-1940 in either Riga
or east London. Shmuel was married and had at least 2 children, one of
which was Mona, who returned to Riga in/after 1939 to be with the rest of
her family.

I do have some photos but this is all the information I have - we do not
know what happened next, whether they perished or if anybody survived the
Shoah. I would like to find more information about the family background ie
where and who they were before their time in Riga, and believe there is some
connection with Minsk, Vilna, Vitebsk and the Pale of Settlement areas.

If anybody has any information that could help in any way, please email me.

B. Shiel (email: blspabas@...)
Looking for SILVER, SVIDLER, SVIDLERS

Regarding my post about searching for descendants, whoops sorry made
a mistake, it is the ancestors of the SILVER/SVIDLERS family that I
am interested in!

B. Shiel (email: blspabas@...)
Looking for ancestors of SILVER, SVIDLER, SVIDLERS family

Dear Belarus SIG,

I am looking for any missing information at all about my father's maternal
side of his family who had roots in Belarus and/or Riga.

Married to Myer SHIEL, my grandmother's name was Rachel (Ray) SILVER, born
in 1896. Rachel came to live in London, England, in 1912 >from either Riga
or >from somewhere to the south of Riga. One of her brothers Solomon (Solly)
also emigrated to London, but her other brother, Mendel, stayed behind. I
do not have any further information about Mendel but he may have been
married.

Rachel's mother Malka ("Milly", "Bobby") SILVER died in London in 1933.
Malka's father's first name may have been Gothlif, and he may have had
connections with the town called Chashnik. Malka had 5 siblings (Isaac,
Balia, Boris, Tzaudic, and Kalia). I do not have any further information
about Malka or Gothlif.

Malka was married to Bernard Lewis SILVER. Bernard's surname was originally
SVIDLER or SVIDLERS. Bernard was a Rabbi, he had Siddurs published in
London and in 1912 lived in Beaumont Square, Mile End, London, where Bernard
died aged 58 in 1915.

Bernard's father's Hebrew first and/or middle names may have been Yehuda,
Leib, Bar, Beryl or Moshe. Bernard's parents may have been very religous
and they may have been born and lived in the Belarus region, or Riga or
elsewhere.

Bernard had at least 2 other siblings, one of which I know nothing about,
but the other was a brother called Shmuel, Sam or Solomon SVIDLERS, who also
came to live in London >from Riga and died between 1935-1940 in either Riga
or east London. Shmuel was married and had at least 2 children, one of
which was Mona, who returned to Riga in/after 1939 to be with the rest of
her family.

I do have some photos but this is all the information I have - we do not
know what happened next, whether they perished or if anybody survived the
Shoah. I would like to find more information about the family background ie
where and who they were before their time in Riga, and believe there is some
connection with Minsk, Vilna, Vitebsk and the Pale of Settlement areas.

If anybody has any information that could help in any way, please email me.

B. Shiel (email: blspabas@...)
Looking for SILVER, SVIDLER, SVIDLERS