Go to http://www.ushmm.org/research/center/symposia/symposium/
1999-11-09/agenda.html to download or listen to presentations on the
Hungarian Holocaust >from the November 1999 symposium sponsored by the
Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies.


Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Go to http://www.ushmm.org/research/center/symposia/symposium/
1999-11-09/agenda.html to download or listen to presentations on the
Hungarian Holocaust >from the November 1999 symposium sponsored by the
Center for Advanced Holocaust Studies.


Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Dear Genners,

I'm interested in obtaining birth and residency records >from Szilagycseh, formerly in Austro-Hungaria and nowadays
Cehu Silvaniei in Romania. How do I approach this task without knowing Romanian? I would appreciate any kind of help.

Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel

Dear Genners,

I'm interested in obtaining birth and residency records >from Szilagycseh, formerly in Austro-Hungaria and nowadays
Cehu Silvaniei in Romania. How do I approach this task without knowing Romanian? I would appreciate any kind of help.

Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel

Dear All,

During one of the Hungarian-theme sessions at the recent IAJGS
conference, a woman asked about memorials and other remembrances of
Hannah Szenes in presentday Hungary. You can see an image of her
grave at http://www.holocaust-history.org/hungarian-photos/jpg/
06-0708.jpg

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Dear All,

During one of the Hungarian-theme sessions at the recent IAJGS
conference, a woman asked about memorials and other remembrances of
Hannah Szenes in presentday Hungary. You can see an image of her
grave at http://www.holocaust-history.org/hungarian-photos/jpg/
06-0708.jpg

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Hi,

I would like to thank the people who helped me with my question about
Briceni, but I have two more...

First, can anyone get me an address or e-mail address to the City Hall in
Briceni, Roumania?
and...does anyone know if there was a town near Kiev that goes by the name
or sounds like Breechum? Of the information >from my great-Bubbie, this is
the name of the place her father grew up, but once again, there was a
faulty memory when she was still alive!

Thank you,

Victoria Tanenbaum
Maine, United States

Hi,

I would like to thank the people who helped me with my question about
Briceni, but I have two more...

First, can anyone get me an address or e-mail address to the City Hall in
Briceni, Roumania?
and...does anyone know if there was a town near Kiev that goes by the name
or sounds like Breechum? Of the information >from my great-Bubbie, this is
the name of the place her father grew up, but once again, there was a
faulty memory when she was still alive!

Thank you,

Victoria Tanenbaum
Maine, United States

Genners.

Not naming a son after his father is, as I understand Minhag (Custom) not
Halakah (Law)

I have seen several instances of sons having the same name as their father
(I do) An older cousin told me that my mother was a aware of the custom but
did it anyway.

The story as to why two people with the same name were not supposed to live
in the same house is that when the Angel of Death (Malakh ha Movitz) comes
on his errand to pick up a soul, he is armed with a warrant with the persons
name on it. Usually the older person leaves us first and if the Angel
encounters someone in the house with the name on the warrant even if he is
the younger, he takes him. So, it is better to have a different name.

If you don't believe the story, name as you like,

Joe Fibel

Genners.

Not naming a son after his father is, as I understand Minhag (Custom) not
Halakah (Law)

I have seen several instances of sons having the same name as their father
(I do) An older cousin told me that my mother was a aware of the custom but
did it anyway.

The story as to why two people with the same name were not supposed to live
in the same house is that when the Angel of Death (Malakh ha Movitz) comes
on his errand to pick up a soul, he is armed with a warrant with the persons
name on it. Usually the older person leaves us first and if the Angel
encounters someone in the house with the name on the warrant even if he is
the younger, he takes him. So, it is better to have a different name.

If you don't believe the story, name as you like,

Joe Fibel

Greetings all,

As promised, I am notifying everyone that the fourth in a series of five new
searchable cemetery databases is now online. The cemetery is Mt. Ararat
Cemetery. It is located in Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, though its
mailing address is in Farmingdale. The cemetery (founded in 1929, first
burial 1933) contains more than 45,000 burials but no society plots. This
means that using the www.jgsny.org database in order to locate a particular
landsmanshaft plot will not be useful for this cemetery.

You can search by first name, surname, date of death (not date of burial),
section number, range number, and lot number. The results for each
individual search are still limited to 200 entries and are displayed
alphabetically, e.g. if you just search using the surname COHEN, you will
get the first two hundred entries of a total of six-hundred and fifty COHEN
entries in their database. The first entry is Aaron COHEN, and the last is
Frieda COHEN. If you know no other pertinent information about the deceased
other than their first and last names, and use are looking for a COHEN whose
first name begins with a letter further down in the alphabet, you can use
their first name and surname to find who you're looking for. Or you can,
e.g, enter COHEN into the last name field, and then, plug in the letters J
through Z individually in the first name field, to find who you're looking
for.

The URL for the Mt. Ararat Cemetery site is www.mountararatcemetery.com .
The last in a series of five searchable cemetery databases will be for Mt.
Judah in Ridgewood, Queens, New York, though I wouldn't count on this site
being online for at least a couple of months. I will, of course, spread the
word once this database is online. I know of no other cemetery that has
plans to create a searchable database for their burials.

The first three searchable cemetery databases in this series that were
created are:
Mt. Hebron Cemetery (Flushing, Queens, New York):
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
Mt. Carmel Cemetery (Ridgewood, Queens, New York):
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
Mt. Zion Cemetery (Maspeth, Queens, New York): www.mountzioncemetery.com
Also, another searchable cemetery database (but not part of this series):
Mt. Moriah Cemetery (Fairview, New Jersey):
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org

Please remember that within the Cemetery Project section of my own website
(www.museumoffamilyhistory.com), there exists a cemetery directory, with
cemetery contact information, as well as nearly one-hundred maps of
forty-five cemeteries that are located in New York, New Jersey, South
Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles and Montreal. There is more than this, so you
should check the table of contents on the Site Map page for information on
other content that might be of interest to you.
Happy hunting!


Best,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com

Greetings all,

As promised, I am notifying everyone that the fourth in a series of five new
searchable cemetery databases is now online. The cemetery is Mt. Ararat
Cemetery. It is located in Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, though its
mailing address is in Farmingdale. The cemetery (founded in 1929, first
burial 1933) contains more than 45,000 burials but no society plots. This
means that using the www.jgsny.org database in order to locate a particular
landsmanshaft plot will not be useful for this cemetery.

You can search by first name, surname, date of death (not date of burial),
section number, range number, and lot number. The results for each
individual search are still limited to 200 entries and are displayed
alphabetically, e.g. if you just search using the surname COHEN, you will
get the first two hundred entries of a total of six-hundred and fifty COHEN
entries in their database. The first entry is Aaron COHEN, and the last is
Frieda COHEN. If you know no other pertinent information about the deceased
other than their first and last names, and use are looking for a COHEN whose
first name begins with a letter further down in the alphabet, you can use
their first name and surname to find who you're looking for. Or you can,
e.g, enter COHEN into the last name field, and then, plug in the letters J
through Z individually in the first name field, to find who you're looking
for.

The URL for the Mt. Ararat Cemetery site is www.mountararatcemetery.com .
The last in a series of five searchable cemetery databases will be for Mt.
Judah in Ridgewood, Queens, New York, though I wouldn't count on this site
being online for at least a couple of months. I will, of course, spread the
word once this database is online. I know of no other cemetery that has
plans to create a searchable database for their burials.

The first three searchable cemetery databases in this series that were
created are:
Mt. Hebron Cemetery (Flushing, Queens, New York):
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
Mt. Carmel Cemetery (Ridgewood, Queens, New York):
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
Mt. Zion Cemetery (Maspeth, Queens, New York): www.mountzioncemetery.com
Also, another searchable cemetery database (but not part of this series):
Mt. Moriah Cemetery (Fairview, New Jersey):
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org

Please remember that within the Cemetery Project section of my own website
(www.museumoffamilyhistory.com), there exists a cemetery directory, with
cemetery contact information, as well as nearly one-hundred maps of
forty-five cemeteries that are located in New York, New Jersey, South
Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles and Montreal. There is more than this, so you
should check the table of contents on the Site Map page for information on
other content that might be of interest to you.
Happy hunting!


Best,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com

Greetings,

I also wanted to mention that the search engine that Steve Morse had
created, where you can look up the names of those buried at Mts. Hebron,
Carmel and Zion, has been blocked by those who have created these individual
cemetery websites. This, of course, will also be true for the new searchable
database created for Mt. Ararat, as well as the last one to be created in
the next couple of months, for Mt. Judah Cemetery. They have blocked his IP
address so his search engine is no longer functional, and there's nothing
that he can do about it. This is most unfortunate. Steve's search engine not
only allowed us to search these cemetery databases >from just one site, it
allowed us to receive more than two hundred entries per individual search,
the number you'd get by using each cemetery's individual website/search
engine. So we must now search the cemetery databases individually in lieu of
Steve's search engine. If his IP address ever becomes unblocked, I will let
you know.
Here again are the URLs for the cemetery databases in question:

Mt. Hebron Cemetery (Flushing, Queens, New York):
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
Mt. Carmel Cemetery (Ridgewood, Queens, New York):
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
Mt. Zion Cemetery (Maspeth, Queens, New York):
www.mountzioncemetery.com
Mt. Ararat Cemetery (Lindenhurst, Suffolk, New York):
www.mountararatcemetery.com

Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com

Greetings,

I also wanted to mention that the search engine that Steve Morse had
created, where you can look up the names of those buried at Mts. Hebron,
Carmel and Zion, has been blocked by those who have created these individual
cemetery websites. This, of course, will also be true for the new searchable
database created for Mt. Ararat, as well as the last one to be created in
the next couple of months, for Mt. Judah Cemetery. They have blocked his IP
address so his search engine is no longer functional, and there's nothing
that he can do about it. This is most unfortunate. Steve's search engine not
only allowed us to search these cemetery databases >from just one site, it
allowed us to receive more than two hundred entries per individual search,
the number you'd get by using each cemetery's individual website/search
engine. So we must now search the cemetery databases individually in lieu of
Steve's search engine. If his IP address ever becomes unblocked, I will let
you know.
Here again are the URLs for the cemetery databases in question:

Mt. Hebron Cemetery (Flushing, Queens, New York):
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
Mt. Carmel Cemetery (Ridgewood, Queens, New York):
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
Mt. Zion Cemetery (Maspeth, Queens, New York):
www.mountzioncemetery.com
Mt. Ararat Cemetery (Lindenhurst, Suffolk, New York):
www.mountararatcemetery.com

Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com

I could be wrong about this, but I think that many, if not most, public high
schools in NYC at the time were either all girls or all boys. At least this is
the impression I got >from my mother and uncle when I was growing up. The
current Department of Education (formerly the Board of Education) in NYC tends
to be very bureaucratic and frustrating to deal with, but calling them and
asking for a list of *all* high schools in the city at that time might actually
get you somewhere if you happen to get someone on the line who is actually
helpful. Good luck!

Nurit
n.kraus-friedberg@...
SEARCHING: REICHER/Strzyzow, USA; TYM/Strzyzow, USA; BELKIN/Grodno, USA;
FRIEDBERG/Grodno, USA

I could be wrong about this, but I think that many, if not most, public high
schools in NYC at the time were either all girls or all boys. At least this is
the impression I got >from my mother and uncle when I was growing up. The
current Department of Education (formerly the Board of Education) in NYC tends
to be very bureaucratic and frustrating to deal with, but calling them and
asking for a list of *all* high schools in the city at that time might actually
get you somewhere if you happen to get someone on the line who is actually
helpful. Good luck!

Nurit
n.kraus-friedberg@...
SEARCHING: REICHER/Strzyzow, USA; TYM/Strzyzow, USA; BELKIN/Grodno, USA;
FRIEDBERG/Grodno, USA

Greetings all,

As promised, I am notifying everyone that the fourth in a series of five new
searchable cemetery databases is now online. The cemetery is Mt. Ararat
Cemetery. It is located in Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, though its
mailing address is in Farmingdale. The cemetery (founded in 1929, first
burial 1933) contains more than 45,000 burials but no society plots. This
means that using the www.jgsny.org database in order to locate a particular
landsmanshaft plot will not be useful for this cemetery.

You can search by first name, surname, date of death (not date of burial),
section number, range number, and lot number. The results for each
individual search are still limited to 200 entries and are displayed
alphabetically, e.g. if you just search using the surname COHEN, you will
get the first two hundred entries of a total of six-hundred and fifty COHEN
entries in their database. The first entry is Aaron COHEN, and the last is
Frieda COHEN. If you know no other pertinent information about the deceased
other than their first and last names, and use are looking for a COHEN whose
first name begins with a letter further down in the alphabet, you can use
their first name and surname to find who you're looking for. Or you can,
e.g, enter COHEN into the last name field, and then, plug in the letters J
through Z individually in the first name field, to find who you're looking
for.

The URL for the Mt. Ararat Cemetery site is www.mountararatcemetery.com .
The last in a series of five searchable cemetery databases will be for Mt.
Judah in Ridgewood, Queens, New York, though I wouldn't count on this site
being online for at least a couple of months. I will, of course, spread the
word once this database is online. I know of no other cemetery that has
plans to create a searchable database for their burials.

The first three searchable cemetery databases in this series that were
created are:
Mt. Hebron Cemetery (Flushing, Queens, New York):
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
Mt. Carmel Cemetery (Ridgewood, Queens, New York):
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
Mt. Zion Cemetery (Maspeth, Queens, New York): www.mountzioncemetery.com
Also, another searchable cemetery database (but not part of this series):
Mt. Moriah Cemetery (Fairview, New Jersey):
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org

Please remember that within the Cemetery Project section of my own website
(www.museumoffamilyhistory.com), there exists a cemetery directory, with
cemetery contact information, as well as nearly one-hundred maps of
forty-five cemeteries that are located in New York, New Jersey, South
Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles and Montreal. There is more than this, so you
should check the table of contents on the Site Map page for information on
other content that might be of interest to you.
Happy hunting!

Best,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com

Greetings all,

As promised, I am notifying everyone that the fourth in a series of five new
searchable cemetery databases is now online. The cemetery is Mt. Ararat
Cemetery. It is located in Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, though its
mailing address is in Farmingdale. The cemetery (founded in 1929, first
burial 1933) contains more than 45,000 burials but no society plots. This
means that using the www.jgsny.org database in order to locate a particular
landsmanshaft plot will not be useful for this cemetery.

You can search by first name, surname, date of death (not date of burial),
section number, range number, and lot number. The results for each
individual search are still limited to 200 entries and are displayed
alphabetically, e.g. if you just search using the surname COHEN, you will
get the first two hundred entries of a total of six-hundred and fifty COHEN
entries in their database. The first entry is Aaron COHEN, and the last is
Frieda COHEN. If you know no other pertinent information about the deceased
other than their first and last names, and use are looking for a COHEN whose
first name begins with a letter further down in the alphabet, you can use
their first name and surname to find who you're looking for. Or you can,
e.g, enter COHEN into the last name field, and then, plug in the letters J
through Z individually in the first name field, to find who you're looking
for.

The URL for the Mt. Ararat Cemetery site is www.mountararatcemetery.com .
The last in a series of five searchable cemetery databases will be for Mt.
Judah in Ridgewood, Queens, New York, though I wouldn't count on this site
being online for at least a couple of months. I will, of course, spread the
word once this database is online. I know of no other cemetery that has
plans to create a searchable database for their burials.

The first three searchable cemetery databases in this series that were
created are:
Mt. Hebron Cemetery (Flushing, Queens, New York):
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
Mt. Carmel Cemetery (Ridgewood, Queens, New York):
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
Mt. Zion Cemetery (Maspeth, Queens, New York): www.mountzioncemetery.com
Also, another searchable cemetery database (but not part of this series):
Mt. Moriah Cemetery (Fairview, New Jersey):
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org

Please remember that within the Cemetery Project section of my own website
(www.museumoffamilyhistory.com), there exists a cemetery directory, with
cemetery contact information, as well as nearly one-hundred maps of
forty-five cemeteries that are located in New York, New Jersey, South
Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles and Montreal. There is more than this, so you
should check the table of contents on the Site Map page for information on
other content that might be of interest to you.
Happy hunting!

Best,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com

It is not the father/husband same name that is the problem. It is the
mother/ wife same name that is supposed to be avoided. I was told of cases
where couples, not yet engaged, have broken up because the girl had the same
name as her future mother-in-law. I was told that in the past, when families
lived in close proximity, a man might call to his wife to come to bed, and
his mother might come by mistake, hence the danger of incest.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Omer, Israel

Like many superstitions, evidently this one didn't con everybody. My
grandfather, a member of a rabbinical family of Lomza Gubernia and a pious
man, married Szejna, my grandmother, although his mother was also Szejna.
Folk customs don't have the binding clout that is often attributed to them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Goodman [mailto:SPAM_FOILER@...]

This subject is related to my great-aunts tomb, posted at ViewMate
last week. The translation >from Hebrew, done by JewishGenners,
revealed that my great-aunt, Tova bat Fishel, was married to Fishel
NAIBERGER. Both father and husband were called Fishel.

I think that Ive read somewhere that in this case, the youngest of the
two should change his / her name before the marriage takes place.
Have any of you ever heard this? Can anyone explain more about it?

I have heard of this too, even >from my own mother (who has 20 years to go
before 120). Yet my tree abounds in just such cases, and I have no
indication that anybody changed his name.

I assume that the "thought" (if that's the right word) behind this
superstition is a fear of what might be called "virtual incest". But it
seems that it has not disrupted many shidukhim.
---
Sender: Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.

It is not the father/husband same name that is the problem. It is the
mother/ wife same name that is supposed to be avoided. I was told of cases
where couples, not yet engaged, have broken up because the girl had the same
name as her future mother-in-law. I was told that in the past, when families
lived in close proximity, a man might call to his wife to come to bed, and
his mother might come by mistake, hence the danger of incest.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Omer, Israel

Like many superstitions, evidently this one didn't con everybody. My
grandfather, a member of a rabbinical family of Lomza Gubernia and a pious
man, married Szejna, my grandmother, although his mother was also Szejna.
Folk customs don't have the binding clout that is often attributed to them.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Goodman [mailto:SPAM_FOILER@...]

This subject is related to my great-aunts tomb, posted at ViewMate
last week. The translation >from Hebrew, done by JewishGenners,
revealed that my great-aunt, Tova bat Fishel, was married to Fishel
NAIBERGER. Both father and husband were called Fishel.

I think that Ive read somewhere that in this case, the youngest of the
two should change his / her name before the marriage takes place.
Have any of you ever heard this? Can anyone explain more about it?

I have heard of this too, even >from my own mother (who has 20 years to go
before 120). Yet my tree abounds in just such cases, and I have no
indication that anybody changed his name.

I assume that the "thought" (if that's the right word) behind this
superstition is a fear of what might be called "virtual incest". But it
seems that it has not disrupted many shidukhim.
---
Sender: Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.