I want to thank everyone who took the time to advise me concerning my
research on the HOLRIE family, sharing with me their ideas and suggestions.
The users of the newsgroup are a great bunch!

Fraida Cohen
New York

Please view these additional pictures to see if you know anyone in the
Confirmation Class of 1939 in MS, or one of the 3 people in the group of
pix, the Grandfather or Uncle of Henry GINSBURG.

We hope these additional pictures will open a connection for the family and
the memorabilia will be returned to descendants of Ellis, Bessie and Henry
Martin GINSBURG.

Information: Ellis GINSBURG and Sam KAPLAN (wife, Fanny) were co-owners of a
dress shop in Laurel, MS. Both Bessie GINSBURG and Fanny KAPLAN were born in
Michigan according to the 1930 Census. The two gentlemen were born in
Russia. The 1920 census shows Sam Caplin (different spelling but obviously
the same person) as a brother-in-law (BorI) and Florence as a niece. The
1920 Census shows Bessie born in Russia. Comparing the Census, there is not
a full 10 years difference in ages between 1920 and 1930 except for Florence
Kaplan/Caplin. Usually, the 1920 census is most accurate.

During the 1939 Confirmation, Henry Martin GINSBURG would have been 14 or 15
years old.

To view these new pictures, please log onto:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=8317
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=8318

Please reply privately. Many thanks in advance for any help given.

Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@...

The British monarchy Anglicized their German surnames during WW1

For those too young to remember this, the change was >from the teutonic
"Battenberg" to the veddy British "Mountbatten". There is a perhaps
apocryphal story that, after the change, some Ginzburgs applied to change
their name to "Mountginz". That is the connection with Jewish Genealogy.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.

Steve,

I think you are trying to say that if Caroline Holrie in an institution as a
deaf mute, she would appear in the census anyway. I think I would search for
her the same way, though, as someone who was not living in an institution,
though, and her name is not coming up in the later censuses.

Regarding the bounced emails: my apology for that. I meant to write that if
you want to answer privately, please remove all numbers >from my email
address (to avoid spam).

Dear Cousins,

In response to Lore's question, my Aunt Alice's name in Lithuania was
Asne. In Hebrew name, the name is the same. The name is seen in
Genesis 41:45. In Yiddish, the variants are Asnas, Asnat, Asnes,
Osnas, and Osnat. >from what I've read, in America, the people with
that name were called Asenath, Asna, Asnah, Asne, Mae, Alice & Marissa.

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, Arizona

Has anyone the family tree or genealogical information about Avraham Stern

from the Lehi group. He was killed by the British on February 12, 1942 in

Tel Aviv.
Regards,

Trevor Waner
Rehovot, Israel
(formally Springs, South Africa)

One of my relatives lived in Cabots Court in London. I do not know the
correct spelling of this area and I am hoping someone will recognize it. I
believe "poor Jewish immigrants" lived there-perhaps as a stop off before
immigrating to America. Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Marilyn Feingold, USA

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin; STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova); TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel; KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka; ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova); TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)

Moderator Note: There is a Cabot Square in London's East End (E14 4EY)

From: Diane Harman-Hoog [mailto:harmanhoog@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:45 AM
To: 'jewishgen@...'
Subject: Looking for information on Nachum Shapiro b abt 1860 and the name
of someone who is an expert on Shapiro genealogy.

Ralph Cilevitz who has researched the name SHAPIRO suggested I post to find
the name of a man in Israel who is an expert on the SHAPIRO lineage. He
thought the last name was FRIEDMAN. I am looking for Nachum SHAPIRO who
eventually emigrated to the US. I think he was born about 1860;. He came
with a son named Harry (Girsh?) and a daughter named Sarah (Sora?) who
married a GOODMAN. I have a picture of him if there are any other relatives
out there. His nephew was >from Vandziogala, but I do not know the exact
relationship.

Diane Harman-Hoog
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wileydorrharman/

I want to thank everyone who took the time to advise me concerning my
research on the HOLRIE family, sharing with me their ideas and suggestions.
The users of the newsgroup are a great bunch!

Fraida Cohen
New York

Steve,

I think you are trying to say that if Caroline Holrie in an institution as a
deaf mute, she would appear in the census anyway. I think I would search for
her the same way, though, as someone who was not living in an institution,
though, and her name is not coming up in the later censuses.

Regarding the bounced emails: my apology for that. I meant to write that if
you want to answer privately, please remove all numbers >from my email
address (to avoid spam).

The British monarchy Anglicized their German surnames during WW1

For those too young to remember this, the change was >from the teutonic
"Battenberg" to the veddy British "Mountbatten". There is a perhaps
apocryphal story that, after the change, some Ginzburgs applied to change
their name to "Mountginz". That is the connection with Jewish Genealogy.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.

From: Diane Harman-Hoog [mailto:harmanhoog@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:45 AM
To: 'jewishgen@...'
Subject: Looking for information on Nachum Shapiro b abt 1860 and the name
of someone who is an expert on Shapiro genealogy.

Ralph Cilevitz who has researched the name SHAPIRO suggested I post to find
the name of a man in Israel who is an expert on the SHAPIRO lineage. He
thought the last name was FRIEDMAN. I am looking for Nachum SHAPIRO who
eventually emigrated to the US. I think he was born about 1860;. He came
with a son named Harry (Girsh?) and a daughter named Sarah (Sora?) who
married a GOODMAN. I have a picture of him if there are any other relatives
out there. His nephew was >from Vandziogala, but I do not know the exact
relationship.

Diane Harman-Hoog
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wileydorrharman/

One of my relatives lived in Cabots Court in London. I do not know the
correct spelling of this area and I am hoping someone will recognize it. I
believe "poor Jewish immigrants" lived there-perhaps as a stop off before
immigrating to America. Any information will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Marilyn Feingold, USA

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin; STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova); TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel; KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka; ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova); TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)

Moderator Note: There is a Cabot Square in London's East End (E14 4EY)

Has anyone the family tree or genealogical information about Avraham Stern

from the Lehi group. He was killed by the British on February 12, 1942 in

Tel Aviv.
Regards,

Trevor Waner
Rehovot, Israel
(formally Springs, South Africa)

Dear Cousins,

In response to Lore's question, my Aunt Alice's name in Lithuania was
Asne. In Hebrew name, the name is the same. The name is seen in
Genesis 41:45. In Yiddish, the variants are Asnas, Asnat, Asnes,
Osnas, and Osnat. >from what I've read, in America, the people with
that name were called Asenath, Asna, Asnah, Asne, Mae, Alice & Marissa.

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, Arizona

Hello,
How likely is it for a male named Meier PERLA in Lomza to have converted his
name to Peter MEYER in Germany on route to America?
I have a ship's record Jan 1884 for my g-grandfather Peter MEYER b. abt. 1857
claiming citizenship in Germany. No one else on board claimed citizenship to
Russia either. However, on all other documents found created in the U.S., he
claims citizenship to Russia or Russian Poland.
I found Meier PERLA married to who I believe to be my g-grandmother Guta
Kawkiewicz on JRI-Poland. Most of the other information seems to fit including
approximate birth and marriage dates.
I appreciate all feedback.
Thank you.

Shari Kantrow
Bloomfield, New Jersey

researching:
MEYER, KAFKA, KUPFER, SCHAFF -Russian/Poland>NY
BLITZER,KARPET,JACOBSON,LANDSMAN, BLITZMAN,BLAZER
PLATZMAN, REYITTS (REIZ)Kamenets-Podolskiy, Podolia >NY
HABERMAN,DICKMAN,SZWARZ- Bukaczowce,Siemikowce>NY
SCHNEIDER, MILBAUER, MEYER - Austria
SCHWARTZ,,SHAPIRO- Bursztyn,Kuropatniki-Galicia>NY

Hello All:

I need a translation to English for 2 Handwritten Polish Marriage Records just
received >from the Lodz Archives via the JRI Poland Indexing site.

Is there anybody out there to help?

I will send by snail mail. Please answer privately.

Beatrice Markel
Redondo Beach, California USA

Please view these additional pictures to see if you know anyone in the
Confirmation Class of 1939 in MS, or one of the 3 people in the group of
pix, the Grandfather or Uncle of Henry GINSBURG.

We hope these additional pictures will open a connection for the family and
the memorabilia will be returned to descendants of Ellis, Bessie and Henry
Martin GINSBURG.

Information: Ellis GINSBURG and Sam KAPLAN (wife, Fanny) were co-owners of a
dress shop in Laurel, MS. Both Bessie GINSBURG and Fanny KAPLAN were born in
Michigan according to the 1930 Census. The two gentlemen were born in
Russia. The 1920 census shows Sam Caplin (different spelling but obviously
the same person) as a brother-in-law (BorI) and Florence as a niece. The
1920 Census shows Bessie born in Russia. Comparing the Census, there is not
a full 10 years difference in ages between 1920 and 1930 except for Florence
Kaplan/Caplin. Usually, the 1920 census is most accurate.

During the 1939 Confirmation, Henry Martin GINSBURG would have been 14 or 15
years old.

To view these new pictures, please log onto:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=8317
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=8318

Please reply privately. Many thanks in advance for any help given.

Rachelle Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@...

I failed to find a link between a blood relative and anyone already in the
database. Nevertheless, I've sent in my 'grain of sand' by email because I
obviously didn't know how to do the upload.

Fifty-four of 55 names are new; the one duplicate is not a blood relative
nor was he a blood relative of the person who entered his name.

Except for three born in Belgium and two or three born in Lower Saxony
(Niedersachsen), all people in my genealogy were born in Holland.

Unfortunately (except perhaps by paying 100 dollars), no searches are allowed
that return only the number of people found.

Suggestions for linking are most welcome

Philip D. Roos, Jefferson City MO

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately with technical suggestions

Hello,
How likely is it for a male named Meier PERLA in Lomza to have converted his
name to Peter MEYER in Germany on route to America?
I have a ship's record Jan 1884 for my g-grandfather Peter MEYER b. abt. 1857
claiming citizenship in Germany. No one else on board claimed citizenship to
Russia either. However, on all other documents found created in the U.S., he
claims citizenship to Russia or Russian Poland.
I found Meier PERLA married to who I believe to be my g-grandmother Guta
Kawkiewicz on JRI-Poland. Most of the other information seems to fit including
approximate birth and marriage dates.
I appreciate all feedback.
Thank you.

Shari Kantrow
Bloomfield, New Jersey

researching:
MEYER, KAFKA, KUPFER, SCHAFF -Russian/Poland>NY
BLITZER,KARPET,JACOBSON,LANDSMAN, BLITZMAN,BLAZER
PLATZMAN, REYITTS (REIZ)Kamenets-Podolskiy, Podolia >NY
HABERMAN,DICKMAN,SZWARZ- Bukaczowce,Siemikowce>NY
SCHNEIDER, MILBAUER, MEYER - Austria
SCHWARTZ,,SHAPIRO- Bursztyn,Kuropatniki-Galicia>NY