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Hi All,

I would like to know if by chance (very small) you have some knowledge
about the following people or their descendants.

All those ppl lived in Botosani, Romania (at least part of their life)

1. Hirsch sin Leib and his wife Mintsa.
Hirsch was born in 1856, probably died before 1915, was some kind of trader.
Mintsa was born in 1861, probably died before 1915. I am the
descendant of their son Iancu, latter known as Iancu Goldenberg, born
1886. My family does not know about any other childs, or any other
relatives of Hirsch and Mintsa.
2. Marcu Boingiu (Hebrew name Mordechai). He had a daughter, Golda,
born 1863, died 1942. Anyone knows Boingius or Boiangius >from Botosani
?
3. Azril sin Maier, tailor. Born 1852. Died 1900-1910. The husband of
Golda. Their daughter Malca-Lea was married to Iancu, and we know
about the descendants of their other children - does anyone recognize
Azril ?

Thank you,

Sorin Goldenberg
Ness-Ziona
Israel

Hi All,

I would like to know if by chance (very small) you have some knowledge
about the following people or their descendants.

All those ppl lived in Botosani, Romania (at least part of their life)

1. Hirsch sin Leib and his wife Mintsa.
Hirsch was born in 1856, probably died before 1915, was some kind of trader.
Mintsa was born in 1861, probably died before 1915. I am the
descendant of their son Iancu, latter known as Iancu Goldenberg, born
1886. My family does not know about any other childs, or any other
relatives of Hirsch and Mintsa.
2. Marcu Boingiu (Hebrew name Mordechai). He had a daughter, Golda,
born 1863, died 1942. Anyone knows Boingius or Boiangius >from Botosani
?
3. Azril sin Maier, tailor. Born 1852. Died 1900-1910. The husband of
Golda. Their daughter Malca-Lea was married to Iancu, and we know
about the descendants of their other children - does anyone recognize
Azril ?

Thank you,

Sorin Goldenberg
Ness-Ziona
Israel

Schelly Talalay Dardashti is now writing a Jewish genealogy blog called
"Tracing the Tribe."

Its start date was selected to lead up to and cover the 26th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy.

Schelly will interview speakers and conference attendees, and report on
events, innovations and resources.

Find it at http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com .

Schelly was requested to begin this new venture by JTA (Jewish Telegraphic
Agency), www.jta.org , and it is the first blog to be associated with the
news agency.

For more information on the Conference, visit www.jgsny2006.org .

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
<glory1@...>

Schelly Talalay Dardashti is now writing a Jewish genealogy blog called
"Tracing the Tribe."

Its start date was selected to lead up to and cover the 26th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy.

Schelly will interview speakers and conference attendees, and report on
events, innovations and resources.

Find it at http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com .

Schelly was requested to begin this new venture by JTA (Jewish Telegraphic
Agency), www.jta.org , and it is the first blog to be associated with the
news agency.

For more information on the Conference, visit www.jgsny2006.org .

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
<glory1@...>

Schelly Talalay Dardashti is now writing a Jewish genealogy blog called
"Tracing the Tribe."

Its start date was selected to lead up to and cover the 26th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy.

Schelly will interview speakers and conference attendees, and report on
events, innovations and resources.

Find it at http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com .

Schelly was requested to begin this new venture by JTA (Jewish Telegraphic
Agency), www.jta.org , and it is the first blog to be associated with the
news agency.

For more information on the Conference, visit www.jgsny2006.org .

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
<glory1@...>

Schelly Talalay Dardashti is now writing a Jewish genealogy blog called
"Tracing the Tribe."

Its start date was selected to lead up to and cover the 26th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy.

Schelly will interview speakers and conference attendees, and report on
events, innovations and resources.

Find it at http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com .

Schelly was requested to begin this new venture by JTA (Jewish Telegraphic
Agency), www.jta.org , and it is the first blog to be associated with the
news agency.

For more information on the Conference, visit www.jgsny2006.org .

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
<glory1@...>

When searching the online 1924/1925 Romania Business and Organizational
Directory, Vol. II, via www.kalter.org/search, results are now organized by
geographic region. For example, a Regular search for Perlmutter returns

"Regular matches to Perlmutter appear in the Romania directory, Vol. II in
images:

PROVINCIILE VECHIULUI REGAT (OLTENIA, MUNTENIA, MOLDOVA, DOBROGEA)

Judetul Bacau: 39,

BUCOVINA

Judetul Cernauti: 886,

ARDEAULUL (TRANSILVANIA, BANAT, CRISANA, MARAMURES)

Judetul Bistrita-Nasaud: 1215,

Judetul Cojocna: 1349, 1389,

Judetul Hunedoara: 1434,

Judetul Mures-Turda: 1501,

Judetul Satmar: 1604,

Judetul Solnoc-Dobaca: 1712,

BASARABIA

Judetul Balti: 1944"

This was accomplished using the finding aid provided by the Library of
Congress at http://www.loc.gov/rr/european/phonero/rmdir2help.html.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.

When searching the online 1924/1925 Romania Business and Organizational
Directory, Vol. II, via www.kalter.org/search, results are now organized by
geographic region. For example, a Regular search for Perlmutter returns

"Regular matches to Perlmutter appear in the Romania directory, Vol. II in
images:

PROVINCIILE VECHIULUI REGAT (OLTENIA, MUNTENIA, MOLDOVA, DOBROGEA)

Judetul Bacau: 39,

BUCOVINA

Judetul Cernauti: 886,

ARDEAULUL (TRANSILVANIA, BANAT, CRISANA, MARAMURES)

Judetul Bistrita-Nasaud: 1215,

Judetul Cojocna: 1349, 1389,

Judetul Hunedoara: 1434,

Judetul Mures-Turda: 1501,

Judetul Satmar: 1604,

Judetul Solnoc-Dobaca: 1712,

BASARABIA

Judetul Balti: 1944"

This was accomplished using the finding aid provided by the Library of
Congress at http://www.loc.gov/rr/european/phonero/rmdir2help.html.

Best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@...
near Washington, D.C.

I have been asked to summarise the final known facts of the
Austria-Czech socialising and the sessions which should be of
particular interest, for easy reference/printing out. Other
Austria-Czech siggers may be speaking but have not declared their
direct association to our SIG.

1. The full Conference progamme can be found on:
www.jgsny2006.org/conference_program.cfm
2. IAJGS Annual Business Meeting {JGS and SIGS} Wed 16th Aug
1.00-5.00pm Ziegfield/Fourth floor - All welcome.
3. Austria-Czech SIG meeting: Wed 16th Aug. 8:00 to 9:15 am -
Olmstead/Gramercy Rooms/Seventh floor

4. Socialising: available details have been sent to the participants.
They will be posted on the notice board at the Conference Hotel
marked *Austria-Czech*.

5. Austria-Czech Siggers highlights: Speakers and Films.

Anne Feder-Lee; [Hawaii] President of IAJGS

Alex Calzareth will talk about the Aufbau Indexing project [Gersig].

Herbert Huebscher [with Saul Issroff]- Session 130; A Genealogical
Puzzle: Twenty-one Disparate Families with a Common Ancestor
Wed. 16th 1:45-3.00p.m. Westside Ballroom - Salon 1/Fifth floor}

Logan Kleinwaks - Session 333; Searching Digitized Directories Using
Optical Character Recognition (OCR) Tue. 15th 3:15 - 4:30pm Westside
Ballroom-Salon 2/Fifth Floor

Fritz Neubauer [Germany] - Session 310; Genealogical Information in
Memorial Books >from Germany and Austria Wed. August 16th 3:15-4:30pm
O'Neill/Fourth Floor

Tom Weiss - Session 428; two-part session with others not directly
involved with Austria-Czech SIG: Eastern and Central European
research, Poland: The Documentation, Protection and Preservation of
Jewish Cemeteries in Central and Eastern Europe Tue. 15th 1:45-
3:00pm 3:15 - 4:30 pm Westside Ballroom-Salon 3/Fifth Floor

Henry Wellisch [Canada] Session 225; Theresienstadt: The Town Hitler
Gave to the Jews. Wed. 16th 11:00- 12:15pm Room: O'Neill/Fourth Floor

Alex Woodle - Session 192; The Old and the New: Using the Prague
Archives, Jewish History and DNA to Establish Family Routes. Th. 17th
11:00-12:15pm Westside Ballroom-Salon 1/Fifth Floor

*Very relevant* talk - but speaker has not registered on our list
Manuela Wyler; Session 108; Ordinary Exile: The Fate of Austrian
Jewish Refugees in Belgium and France, 1938-1945 Wed 16th 1:45-
3:00pm O'Neill/Fourth floor

Films:

Watermarks - Vienna Hakoah; Session 8009; 3 showings; Mon 14th
2.30-4pm; Tue 15th 7.00-8.30pm; Th 17th 5.00-630 Ziegfield/Fourth
floor

In Vienna they put you in Jail - the Max Birnberg story [video].
*One showing only*: Session 8018; Wed 16th 10-11 am

Into the arms of Strangers: Stories of the Kindertransport *One
showing*. Session 8021; Thu 17th 12.30-2.30pm Ziegfield/Fourth floor

6. Austria-Czech participants - three more have joined the
Austria-Czech list. Our total declared participants now stand at 35 -
but there will be many more wearing "other hats". I will send out the
final complete listing to all participants shortly.

Anyone else who is not participating, and wishes to have the
list should contact me.

Celia Male [U.K.]

I have been asked to summarise the final known facts of the
Austria-Czech socialising and the sessions which should be of
particular interest, for easy reference/printing out. Other
Austria-Czech siggers may be speaking but have not declared their
direct association to our SIG.

1. The full Conference progamme can be found on:
www.jgsny2006.org/conference_program.cfm
2. IAJGS Annual Business Meeting {JGS and SIGS} Wed 16th Aug
1.00-5.00pm Ziegfield/Fourth floor - All welcome.
3. Austria-Czech SIG meeting: Wed 16th Aug. 8:00 to 9:15 am -
Olmstead/Gramercy Rooms/Seventh floor

4. Socialising: available details have been sent to the participants.
They will be posted on the notice board at the Conference Hotel
marked *Austria-Czech*.

5. Austria-Czech Siggers highlights: Speakers and Films.

Anne Feder-Lee; [Hawaii] President of IAJGS

Alex Calzareth will talk about the Aufbau Indexing project [Gersig].

Herbert Huebscher [with Saul Issroff]- Session 130; A Genealogical
Puzzle: Twenty-one Disparate Families with a Common Ancestor
Wed. 16th 1:45-3.00p.m. Westside Ballroom - Salon 1/Fifth floor}

Logan Kleinwaks - Session 333; Searching Digitized Directories Using
Optical Character Recognition (OCR) Tue. 15th 3:15 - 4:30pm Westside
Ballroom-Salon 2/Fifth Floor

Fritz Neubauer [Germany] - Session 310; Genealogical Information in
Memorial Books >from Germany and Austria Wed. August 16th 3:15-4:30pm
O'Neill/Fourth Floor

Tom Weiss - Session 428; two-part session with others not directly
involved with Austria-Czech SIG: Eastern and Central European
research, Poland: The Documentation, Protection and Preservation of
Jewish Cemeteries in Central and Eastern Europe Tue. 15th 1:45-
3:00pm 3:15 - 4:30 pm Westside Ballroom-Salon 3/Fifth Floor

Henry Wellisch [Canada] Session 225; Theresienstadt: The Town Hitler
Gave to the Jews. Wed. 16th 11:00- 12:15pm Room: O'Neill/Fourth Floor

Alex Woodle - Session 192; The Old and the New: Using the Prague
Archives, Jewish History and DNA to Establish Family Routes. Th. 17th
11:00-12:15pm Westside Ballroom-Salon 1/Fifth Floor

*Very relevant* talk - but speaker has not registered on our list
Manuela Wyler; Session 108; Ordinary Exile: The Fate of Austrian
Jewish Refugees in Belgium and France, 1938-1945 Wed 16th 1:45-
3:00pm O'Neill/Fourth floor

Films:

Watermarks - Vienna Hakoah; Session 8009; 3 showings; Mon 14th
2.30-4pm; Tue 15th 7.00-8.30pm; Th 17th 5.00-630 Ziegfield/Fourth
floor

In Vienna they put you in Jail - the Max Birnberg story [video].
*One showing only*: Session 8018; Wed 16th 10-11 am

Into the arms of Strangers: Stories of the Kindertransport *One
showing*. Session 8021; Thu 17th 12.30-2.30pm Ziegfield/Fourth floor

6. Austria-Czech participants - three more have joined the
Austria-Czech list. Our total declared participants now stand at 35 -
but there will be many more wearing "other hats". I will send out the
final complete listing to all participants shortly.

Anyone else who is not participating, and wishes to have the
list should contact me.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Dear Celia

I refer to your comment in your posting "Looted art and our Sigger -
AnneWebber" :

"There are many books awaiting restitution in Vienna. It seems from
the books that Richard was very musical and with a great literary
range too."

I lodged several claims with GSF relating to the property and looted assets
of my late step-Grandfather, Dr. Josef Gold, and his family >from Wien 1 and
Baden bie Wien, but really these claims were very general in character as I
had no definite information to base these claims on apart >from their 1938-9
asset lists. However, Josef and his older brother were both lawyers, and
their Father was a 90 year old pensioner, it is very probable that they
would have had books and perhaps some minor works of art, etc., in their
homes in Wien 1 and Baden bei Wien before they fled >from Vienna, which were
not recorded on their asset lists.

Can you please tell me more about there being many books awaiting
restitution in Vienna. I have one photo of Josef taken sitting at his desk
(possibly in his office at his workplace at Sudbahn, or perhaps in the
family apartment >from where his brother, Dr. Hermann Gold ran his legal
practice) and behind him there is a bookcase with rows of books - some of
which may have been legal books. But I am very sure that the family would
have had a library and paintings, silver and other precious family
heirlooms which perhaps they were forced to "sell" in order to get out of
Vienna.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder

MODERATOR NOTE: Please spell out the words before using acronyms and/or
abbreviations not universally recognized by all.

Dear Celia

I refer to your comment in your posting "Looted art and our Sigger -
AnneWebber" :

"There are many books awaiting restitution in Vienna. It seems from
the books that Richard was very musical and with a great literary
range too."

I lodged several claims with GSF relating to the property and looted assets
of my late step-Grandfather, Dr. Josef Gold, and his family >from Wien 1 and
Baden bie Wien, but really these claims were very general in character as I
had no definite information to base these claims on apart >from their 1938-9
asset lists. However, Josef and his older brother were both lawyers, and
their Father was a 90 year old pensioner, it is very probable that they
would have had books and perhaps some minor works of art, etc., in their
homes in Wien 1 and Baden bei Wien before they fled >from Vienna, which were
not recorded on their asset lists.

Can you please tell me more about there being many books awaiting
restitution in Vienna. I have one photo of Josef taken sitting at his desk
(possibly in his office at his workplace at Sudbahn, or perhaps in the
family apartment >from where his brother, Dr. Hermann Gold ran his legal
practice) and behind him there is a bookcase with rows of books - some of
which may have been legal books. But I am very sure that the family would
have had a library and paintings, silver and other precious family
heirlooms which perhaps they were forced to "sell" in order to get out of
Vienna.

Lorraine Bertelsen
Boho, Downunder

MODERATOR NOTE: Please spell out the words before using acronyms and/or
abbreviations not universally recognized by all.

With barely 36 hours to go, three more Austria-Czech Siggers have
asked to be included on our ever-growing list, which now stands at a
most respectable 35 - ie approx. 5% of our total membership. Herbert
Huebscher is in fact a speaker [on a fascinating DNA genetics topic]
we had not listed before.

If we consider the numbers who met in Israel in Spring and personal
get-togethers - it appears that about 10 percent of members will have
meet each other this year, which is very good going as we are so
scattered.

Here are the latest Siggers joining our large band:

1. Edna Berkovits {Teaneck, NJ} is hoping to join Siggers for the
Kaffee-Klatsch and/or informal dinner. According to census
information >from the Prague Archive, Edna's great-grandfather
was a baker in Uhersky Ostroh, Moravia.

Edna is researching GRUNSPAN - Uhersky Ostroh, Opava, Vienna. BERENZ
-Assenheim, Boenstadt; WEISBECKER - Fischborn

2. Herbert Huebscher writes: I'm not sure whether I'm a full-fledged
Austria-Czech SIG member. I am >from Austria (Vienna) and do receive
the Austria-Czech SIG digest, etc., and have done a lot of research
on Austrian roots at the IKG. Anyway, I'll be attending the
conference as a presenter of session no. 130 together with Saul
Issroff (Wednesday 1:45 p.m. Westside Ballroom - Salon 1/fifth floor}
dealing with how through DNA we have identified a number of seemingly
disparate families having a common ancestor. I just had a guilty
conscience about your reporting the last up-to-date list of
Austria-Czech SIG members attending, and I had not told you about my
attendance, and my presentation. So now I'm telling you.

3. Sherry Kisos {Petach Tikvah, Israel} - the names that Sherry is
looking for looking for are: FREUD, LANDMANN, BERNSTEIN, HESS,
UHRMACHER and DOBBEK. Sherry says that she has no idea where they
came from, but that some of these people left Europe [for US] as
early as 1850; the later ones came as late as 1885. Each primary
source (Castle Gardens, US Census, etc.) has given Sherry a
"different" geographical entity (Prussia, Germany, Austria...).

Sherry has written that her FREUD are related Sigmund FREUD's family
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think it would now be best to list all the names, 1-35, with no
further details on a ***final-final*** list - I will submit it
tomorrow - as three were obviously missing >from what I assumed was
the final list!

Celia Male [U.K.]

With barely 36 hours to go, three more Austria-Czech Siggers have
asked to be included on our ever-growing list, which now stands at a
most respectable 35 - ie approx. 5% of our total membership. Herbert
Huebscher is in fact a speaker [on a fascinating DNA genetics topic]
we had not listed before.

If we consider the numbers who met in Israel in Spring and personal
get-togethers - it appears that about 10 percent of members will have
meet each other this year, which is very good going as we are so
scattered.

Here are the latest Siggers joining our large band:

1. Edna Berkovits {Teaneck, NJ} is hoping to join Siggers for the
Kaffee-Klatsch and/or informal dinner. According to census
information >from the Prague Archive, Edna's great-grandfather
was a baker in Uhersky Ostroh, Moravia.

Edna is researching GRUNSPAN - Uhersky Ostroh, Opava, Vienna. BERENZ
-Assenheim, Boenstadt; WEISBECKER - Fischborn

2. Herbert Huebscher writes: I'm not sure whether I'm a full-fledged
Austria-Czech SIG member. I am >from Austria (Vienna) and do receive
the Austria-Czech SIG digest, etc., and have done a lot of research
on Austrian roots at the IKG. Anyway, I'll be attending the
conference as a presenter of session no. 130 together with Saul
Issroff (Wednesday 1:45 p.m. Westside Ballroom - Salon 1/fifth floor}
dealing with how through DNA we have identified a number of seemingly
disparate families having a common ancestor. I just had a guilty
conscience about your reporting the last up-to-date list of
Austria-Czech SIG members attending, and I had not told you about my
attendance, and my presentation. So now I'm telling you.

3. Sherry Kisos {Petach Tikvah, Israel} - the names that Sherry is
looking for looking for are: FREUD, LANDMANN, BERNSTEIN, HESS,
UHRMACHER and DOBBEK. Sherry says that she has no idea where they
came from, but that some of these people left Europe [for US] as
early as 1850; the later ones came as late as 1885. Each primary
source (Castle Gardens, US Census, etc.) has given Sherry a
"different" geographical entity (Prussia, Germany, Austria...).

Sherry has written that her FREUD are related Sigmund FREUD's family
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think it would now be best to list all the names, 1-35, with no
further details on a ***final-final*** list - I will submit it
tomorrow - as three were obviously missing >from what I assumed was
the final list!

Celia Male [U.K.]

Schelly Talalay Dardashti is now writing a Jewish genealogy blog called
"Tracing the Tribe."

Its start date was selected to lead up to and cover the 26th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy.

Schelly will interview speakers and conference attendees, and report on
events, innovations and resources.

Find it at http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com.

Schelly was requested to begin this new venture by JTA (Jewish Telegraphic
Agency), www.jta.org, and it is the first blog to be associated with the
news agency.

For more information on the Conference, visit www.jgsny2006.org.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
<glory1@...>

Schelly Talalay Dardashti is now writing a Jewish genealogy blog called
"Tracing the Tribe."

Its start date was selected to lead up to and cover the 26th IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy.

Schelly will interview speakers and conference attendees, and report on
events, innovations and resources.

Find it at http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com.

Schelly was requested to begin this new venture by JTA (Jewish Telegraphic
Agency), www.jta.org, and it is the first blog to be associated with the
news agency.

For more information on the Conference, visit www.jgsny2006.org.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
<glory1@...>

Dear Members.

I am looking for KORALCHIKS that settled in Pennsylvania. In the 1930 U.S.
Census there are eight KORALCHIKS listed. They were living in Bergen and
Cambria county. I have not been able to find any information past this
point. If anyone has any information regarding this family. I would
appreciate hearing >from them privately.

Thank you,

Elaine Koralchik Flora Overland Park, Kansas elainekflora@...

Dear Members.

I am looking for KORALCHIKS that settled in Pennsylvania. In the 1930 U.S.
Census there are eight KORALCHIKS listed. They were living in Bergen and
Cambria county. I have not been able to find any information past this
point. If anyone has any information regarding this family. I would
appreciate hearing >from them privately.

Thank you,

Elaine Koralchik Flora Overland Park, Kansas elainekflora@...