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Cemeteries #general

mimisimon@...
 

For the Jewish Gen Discussion Digest

Genners,
I would like to point out an exception to Stan Goodman's comment that
cemeteries do not have the location of the person's death in their databases. I
can only speak for a landsmannshaften organization's information at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Queens, NY. Their burials are in a database which includes,
internment number, name, age, date of burial, when the person died, *death at*,
organization, and, of course, location of the grave. Sometimes the location of
death is a hospital, a nursing home, or the person's actual home. I do not know
if their databases include the same information for individual plots, i.e., in
non organizational locations.
I, too, have found the workers in the cemetery offices very helpful and
pleasant. Clearly, they are caring people who are properly trained to be
understanding and to do whatever they can to assist family members of the
deceased. At least this has been my experience.
Regards,
Mimi Simon

Teaneck, NJ

SIMON/SLAPAK - Sislavitz, Belarus; NYC; SLOTNIK - same
WEISS - Ordarma, Hungary (Storozhnitsa, Ukr); Braddock, PA; E. Pittsburgh, PA;
Rankin, PA; ROTH - Olaszliszka, Hungary; E. Pittsburgh, PA
KLEIN - Keked, Hungary; Turtle Creek, PA; LIKTIG - Kosice, CZ;
NEMET/NEMETI - Kosice, CZ; Israel; ETTINGER - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY
PRINCE - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemeteries #general

mimisimon@...
 

For the Jewish Gen Discussion Digest

Genners,
I would like to point out an exception to Stan Goodman's comment that
cemeteries do not have the location of the person's death in their databases. I
can only speak for a landsmannshaften organization's information at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Queens, NY. Their burials are in a database which includes,
internment number, name, age, date of burial, when the person died, *death at*,
organization, and, of course, location of the grave. Sometimes the location of
death is a hospital, a nursing home, or the person's actual home. I do not know
if their databases include the same information for individual plots, i.e., in
non organizational locations.
I, too, have found the workers in the cemetery offices very helpful and
pleasant. Clearly, they are caring people who are properly trained to be
understanding and to do whatever they can to assist family members of the
deceased. At least this has been my experience.
Regards,
Mimi Simon

Teaneck, NJ

SIMON/SLAPAK - Sislavitz, Belarus; NYC; SLOTNIK - same
WEISS - Ordarma, Hungary (Storozhnitsa, Ukr); Braddock, PA; E. Pittsburgh, PA;
Rankin, PA; ROTH - Olaszliszka, Hungary; E. Pittsburgh, PA
KLEIN - Keked, Hungary; Turtle Creek, PA; LIKTIG - Kosice, CZ;
NEMET/NEMETI - Kosice, CZ; Israel; ETTINGER - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY
PRINCE - Hungary; Mt. Vernon, NY


William ( Bill) GOLUMBICK #general

Big Al <asilberf@...>
 

I am trying to get information on William GOLUMBICK, a body builder who
took second place in Class B in the 1959 Mr. Universe Body Building
Contest. I know he had a gym in California after that. I am trying to
find his address, phone number or if he is still alive.

Alfred M. Silberfeld
PresidentEmeritus
Jewish Genealogical Society
Palm Beach County, Florida.

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen William ( Bill) GOLUMBICK #general

Big Al <asilberf@...>
 

I am trying to get information on William GOLUMBICK, a body builder who
took second place in Class B in the 1959 Mr. Universe Body Building
Contest. I know he had a gym in California after that. I am trying to
find his address, phone number or if he is still alive.

Alfred M. Silberfeld
PresidentEmeritus
Jewish Genealogical Society
Palm Beach County, Florida.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Jewish Soldiers dead in WWI #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

To all who asked me if I've ever got an answer to the question, the
answer I've got >from two different sources (thanks again) is:

There is a book containg such names :

"EVREII DIN ROMANIA IN RAZBOIUL DE REINTREGIRE A TARII (1916-1918) "
ISBN 973-92359-12-3, cost $10. Publisher - Ha Sefer, Bucharest.
It's in Romanian. The biggest problem - they do not accept credit cards.
I do not know if the book lists all the names or some names.

There are again at different places memorials to those ppl.

Regards,
Sorin Goldenberg,


Romania SIG #Romania Jewish Soldiers dead in WWI #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <SorinG@...>
 

To all who asked me if I've ever got an answer to the question, the
answer I've got >from two different sources (thanks again) is:

There is a book containg such names :

"EVREII DIN ROMANIA IN RAZBOIUL DE REINTREGIRE A TARII (1916-1918) "
ISBN 973-92359-12-3, cost $10. Publisher - Ha Sefer, Bucharest.
It's in Romanian. The biggest problem - they do not accept credit cards.
I do not know if the book lists all the names or some names.

There are again at different places memorials to those ppl.

Regards,
Sorin Goldenberg,


Seeking Max Schmalberg/Smalberg offspring #general

Main179@...
 

Dear Genners-
I am seeking any family members of Max SCHMALBERG/SMALBERG. The 1920 New
York City census listed a Max SCHMALBERG and wife "Annie" with 5 daughters-
Fannie, Lillie. Bessie, Dora, Dinah and an infant son Murray In 1920 Max was
listed as living in *Brooklyn*.
He was listed as a "butter and egg" dealer coming >from Tarnow,"Austria". The 1930
census of the *Bronx* revealed he (53 y/o) had "twicked" his name to
SMALBERG. His offfspring were listed as 6 daughters
Fannie,Lillian,Bessie,Dora ,Ruth(?) ,Anita(?) and a son Murray. I
believe he also had a infant son named William Schmalberg who died in
1915 also and was buried in Mt. Zion (N.Y. C.). His wife Annie's maiden
name was MUSCHEL. Any information on this individual and or his fmiy
especiially the possible married names of his daughters and there
whereabouts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks one and all
Sincerely,
Chuck Flack
Please reply privately if possible to HM1401@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Max Schmalberg/Smalberg offspring #general

Main179@...
 

Dear Genners-
I am seeking any family members of Max SCHMALBERG/SMALBERG. The 1920 New
York City census listed a Max SCHMALBERG and wife "Annie" with 5 daughters-
Fannie, Lillie. Bessie, Dora, Dinah and an infant son Murray In 1920 Max was
listed as living in *Brooklyn*.
He was listed as a "butter and egg" dealer coming >from Tarnow,"Austria". The 1930
census of the *Bronx* revealed he (53 y/o) had "twicked" his name to
SMALBERG. His offfspring were listed as 6 daughters
Fannie,Lillian,Bessie,Dora ,Ruth(?) ,Anita(?) and a son Murray. I
believe he also had a infant son named William Schmalberg who died in
1915 also and was buried in Mt. Zion (N.Y. C.). His wife Annie's maiden
name was MUSCHEL. Any information on this individual and or his fmiy
especiially the possible married names of his daughters and there
whereabouts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks one and all
Sincerely,
Chuck Flack
Please reply privately if possible to HM1401@yahoo.com


Re: Seeking Death Place For Isadore Rakoff-New Montefiore #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:50:16 UTC, sacredsisters3@aol.com
(sacredsisters3@aol.com) opined:

Hello To All

I am trying to get a death record for a great-great-uncle of mine, but
am having trouble. His name was Isadore RAKOFF. He was brother to my
great-grandfather David RAKOFF. I have found out that Isadore is buried
along with his son in New Montefiore Cemetery in Suffolk County New
York. I also have his date of death provided by the
cemetery(6/14/1938), But they could not provide the place of death. I
am assuming he died in new york, since he is buried in New york, but
that is not always the case. I am seeking help >from anyone who might be
able to help me in this area. He was 50 years of age when he died, and
was originally >from russia.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com
People travelled far less in 1938 than they do today, so that the
probablility that he is buried where he died is higher than it might
be for a more recent death.

The cemetery can't be expected to have records of where people died,
because they thave no interest in place of death. That would be in the
death certificate. Since it is likely that he died in New York, you
should have sought that document before applying to the cemetery; your
query doesn't indicate that you did so. A Google search for the
address of the proper department in Albany >from which to request it is
the next obvious step.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking Death Place For Isadore Rakoff-New Montefiore #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:50:16 UTC, sacredsisters3@aol.com
(sacredsisters3@aol.com) opined:

Hello To All

I am trying to get a death record for a great-great-uncle of mine, but
am having trouble. His name was Isadore RAKOFF. He was brother to my
great-grandfather David RAKOFF. I have found out that Isadore is buried
along with his son in New Montefiore Cemetery in Suffolk County New
York. I also have his date of death provided by the
cemetery(6/14/1938), But they could not provide the place of death. I
am assuming he died in new york, since he is buried in New york, but
that is not always the case. I am seeking help >from anyone who might be
able to help me in this area. He was 50 years of age when he died, and
was originally >from russia.

Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com
People travelled far less in 1938 than they do today, so that the
probablility that he is buried where he died is higher than it might
be for a more recent death.

The cemetery can't be expected to have records of where people died,
because they thave no interest in place of death. That would be in the
death certificate. Since it is likely that he died in New York, you
should have sought that document before applying to the cemetery; your
query doesn't indicate that you did so. A Google search for the
address of the proper department in Albany >from which to request it is
the next obvious step.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.


Re: Best approach to determining port of entry to US #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Howie,

You might want to consider trying to get copies of his naturalization
file. Unless he became a citizen very early (1880-90s, for example),
the documents could have his arrival details. At least, they'll
probably have other information you'll find interesting and useful.

You'l want to narrow down your search as much as possible.

If he lived in a certain area most of his live, for the time being,
assume he became a citizen there. But remember this is only an
assumption,and you may have to consider other regions as well

You'll want to find him in as many US censuses as you
can. Generally, they asked the year the person became a citizen, and
if not a citizen, whether they'd applied ("Pa") or were still a
foreigner ("Al"). If you're lucky, you'll find concensus, and have a
specific year or two to search.

With that information,you can research how to get citizenship records
for your particular locality - JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
can be a good resource. Some indexes may be online, some may on
microfilm and obtainable, and some may be neither.

Keep in mind his name may have been "Americanized" or changed radically.

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Best approach to determining port of entry to US #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Howie,

You might want to consider trying to get copies of his naturalization
file. Unless he became a citizen very early (1880-90s, for example),
the documents could have his arrival details. At least, they'll
probably have other information you'll find interesting and useful.

You'l want to narrow down your search as much as possible.

If he lived in a certain area most of his live, for the time being,
assume he became a citizen there. But remember this is only an
assumption,and you may have to consider other regions as well

You'll want to find him in as many US censuses as you
can. Generally, they asked the year the person became a citizen, and
if not a citizen, whether they'd applied ("Pa") or were still a
foreigner ("Al"). If you're lucky, you'll find concensus, and have a
specific year or two to search.

With that information,you can research how to get citizenship records
for your particular locality - JewishGen Discussion Group Archives
can be a good resource. Some indexes may be online, some may on
microfilm and obtainable, and some may be neither.

Keep in mind his name may have been "Americanized" or changed radically.

Good luck!

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


Polish document on Viewmate #general

Fine Family <mafine@...>
 

Hi,
If any one could help translating this polish document >from eastern
Galicia it would be greatly appreciated. What I need is just the
translation of the column headings. It is a document listing religious
chadorim in that section of Galicia.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
VM6788
Please respond privately!
Thanks
Mordechai Fine
Researching: FINE, SOLOWITZ- Bialystok, HAMMER- Tarnopol,
BERGMAN-Skala, Mielnica, METTER, GULOWITZ-Rostov

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct link to this image is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6788


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish document on Viewmate #general

Fine Family <mafine@...>
 

Hi,
If any one could help translating this polish document >from eastern
Galicia it would be greatly appreciated. What I need is just the
translation of the column headings. It is a document listing religious
chadorim in that section of Galicia.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
VM6788
Please respond privately!
Thanks
Mordechai Fine
Researching: FINE, SOLOWITZ- Bialystok, HAMMER- Tarnopol,
BERGMAN-Skala, Mielnica, METTER, GULOWITZ-Rostov

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct link to this image is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6788


How to recruit JewishGenners in Russia, Poland or Ukrain #general

mark
 

Dear Genners. It's a pitty that there is nobody >from Russia,Poland or Ukrain
in our discussion(according to the emails). There are our roots and there we
must consentrate our searches. The question is how to "force" them to
contact?They can help us in our search in archives,cemetaries, etc. I would
be very happy if we could discuss it. It can be very helpful
Best wishes
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to recruit JewishGenners in Russia, Poland or Ukrain #general

mark
 

Dear Genners. It's a pitty that there is nobody >from Russia,Poland or Ukrain
in our discussion(according to the emails). There are our roots and there we
must consentrate our searches. The question is how to "force" them to
contact?They can help us in our search in archives,cemetaries, etc. I would
be very happy if we could discuss it. It can be very helpful
Best wishes
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net


BERGSTREIT, DORFMAN, ERSTLING from Brzezany #general

Diane Paul <diane.paul2@...>
 

I am researching Brzezany and have quite a bit of background. If anyone
knows of the DORFMAN, BERGSTREIT or ERSTLING families >from this area, I
would like to hear >from them. They are my mother's family. She had a number
of Bergstreit aunts, including triplets and I cannot find records of
marriages, so have only maiden names.
Diane Paul
Manchester, England
diane.paul2@ntlworld.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BERGSTREIT, DORFMAN, ERSTLING from Brzezany #general

Diane Paul <diane.paul2@...>
 

I am researching Brzezany and have quite a bit of background. If anyone
knows of the DORFMAN, BERGSTREIT or ERSTLING families >from this area, I
would like to hear >from them. They are my mother's family. She had a number
of Bergstreit aunts, including triplets and I cannot find records of
marriages, so have only maiden names.
Diane Paul
Manchester, England
diane.paul2@ntlworld.com


Re: Best approach to determining port of entry to US #general

Alan D Glick <aglick1@...>
 

Naturalization Papers. In my own case my GF's Declaration of Intent
(first papers) had the date off by one week, but the Petition for
Naturalization (final papers) had the correct date. In addition to port of
entry, these papers told me the date of arrival, the approximate date of
departure, the name of the ship, where the ship embarked from, the
birthplace of my GF, his birthdate, current residence, occupation, age, his
original name, and his wife's birthyear. For me, most of this was a
treasure trove of new information.
I had also spent much time on the Ellis Island web site with a fruitless
search, until his Naturalization Papers told me he arrived in Boston. With
the info >from his papers I've ordered the passenger list >from my local FHL
branch and it should be arriving any day now.
Alan Glick

Subject: Best approach to determining port of entry to US
From: Howie Axelrod < highwind1@comcast.net >
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:09:29 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19

What would be the best approach to determining where a specific person
entered the US? What documents (death certificate, etc.) would be of
the most asistance. It seemed that my Great Grandfather spelled his
name, both first and last, no less than 7 different ways. I have had
no success using Ellis Island records using various spellings, and
what I believe is his departure town to no avail, and will use
[a commercial site - name removed by the moderator] at the local lib. on
Friday to search Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia, etc.

This failing, what documents would be most helpful, if any?

Howie


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Best approach to determining port of entry to US #general

Alan D Glick <aglick1@...>
 

Naturalization Papers. In my own case my GF's Declaration of Intent
(first papers) had the date off by one week, but the Petition for
Naturalization (final papers) had the correct date. In addition to port of
entry, these papers told me the date of arrival, the approximate date of
departure, the name of the ship, where the ship embarked from, the
birthplace of my GF, his birthdate, current residence, occupation, age, his
original name, and his wife's birthyear. For me, most of this was a
treasure trove of new information.
I had also spent much time on the Ellis Island web site with a fruitless
search, until his Naturalization Papers told me he arrived in Boston. With
the info >from his papers I've ordered the passenger list >from my local FHL
branch and it should be arriving any day now.
Alan Glick

Subject: Best approach to determining port of entry to US
From: Howie Axelrod < highwind1@comcast.net >
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:09:29 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19

What would be the best approach to determining where a specific person
entered the US? What documents (death certificate, etc.) would be of
the most asistance. It seemed that my Great Grandfather spelled his
name, both first and last, no less than 7 different ways. I have had
no success using Ellis Island records using various spellings, and
what I believe is his departure town to no avail, and will use
[a commercial site - name removed by the moderator] at the local lib. on
Friday to search Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia, etc.

This failing, what documents would be most helpful, if any?

Howie