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Re: TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE #hungary

g_hirsch@...
 

May be it is word splitting but the word Kreisler resp. its translation
"cereal trader" seemed unprobable. Neither I (living 48 years in the German
part of Switzerland) nor my wife (born and raised in the german Swiss part)
did ever hear and I didn't find it in German-Hungarian, German-Englisch
vocabulary and it is not listed in Duden, in Knauer Lexikon or in
Wikipedia.de, there are 42 entries of Artists, componists and other
personalities but there is no trade or profession under this word. In
MS_Encarta 2004, the probable root of Kreisler namely Kreisel is explained
as Kreiselgyroscop, an instrument for navigation. Kreisel is also a toy,
(trendel play on Hannukah) and in traffic Kreisel (Kreisverkehr) is a
roundabout, traffic circle or rotary.

Cereal/corn/grain trader/dealer/broker is in German Getreidehaendler and in
Hungarian gabona(takarmany)kereskedö

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: "Peter Stern" <drpstern@...>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Betreff: RE: [h-sig] TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE
Datum: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:21:41 +0100

-----Message d'origine-----
De : B. Frederics [mailto:picturethisfilm@...]
Envoye : lundi 31 octobre 2005 04:58
A : H-SIG
Objet : [h-sig] TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE

... It's in German and can be found at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and it's file VM7046.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

It would look very much like the German word "Kreisler" (cereal trader) if
there wasn't that loop in between the "s" and the "l".

Then again, the loop might be a "z", "sz" doesn't alter the German
pronunciation, fits the Hungarian one and "Kreiszler" seems to be a quite
common surname in Hungary. The "Hungarian" spelling might have had an
identical meaning once, my own Hungarian isn't good enough to tell.

Best regards.

Peter Stern
Chartres, France


search for death record of Julia Braun #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

I am looking for suggestions on where to look next for
the death record of my gggm Julia Braun who lived in
Nemet-uj-var, Hungary -- now Gussing, Austria.

Her name appears on two of the marriage records of her
sons. On the first of these in 1892 she is recorded
as living in Nemet-uj-var. On the second of these in
1895 she is recorded as deceased (nehai), and located
in Nemet-uj-var (her husband has apparently moved to
Zalalovo).

Well, I have searched the Jewish death records for
Nemet-uj-var. I also tried looking in the civil
registration for this town. But I haven't found a
record for her. I am stumped and do not know where to
look next. Any suggestions??

Denise Pfalzer
Tampa, Florida, USA


Re: The Origins of Katz Surname #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

Thank you all for your interesting feedback regarding the KATZ surname
origins.

I the discussion was a very interesting one. We learned that although a
surname, like Katz, that is believed to have existed since "forever",
things might be quite different.

Thank you,

Isaac Katz
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE #hungary

g_hirsch@...
 

May be it is word splitting but the word Kreisler resp. its translation
"cereal trader" seemed unprobable. Neither I (living 48 years in the German
part of Switzerland) nor my wife (born and raised in the german Swiss part)
did ever hear and I didn't find it in German-Hungarian, German-Englisch
vocabulary and it is not listed in Duden, in Knauer Lexikon or in
Wikipedia.de, there are 42 entries of Artists, componists and other
personalities but there is no trade or profession under this word. In
MS_Encarta 2004, the probable root of Kreisler namely Kreisel is explained
as Kreiselgyroscop, an instrument for navigation. Kreisel is also a toy,
(trendel play on Hannukah) and in traffic Kreisel (Kreisverkehr) is a
roundabout, traffic circle or rotary.

Cereal/corn/grain trader/dealer/broker is in German Getreidehaendler and in
Hungarian gabona(takarmany)kereskedö

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: "Peter Stern" <drpstern@...>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Betreff: RE: [h-sig] TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE
Datum: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:21:41 +0100

-----Message d'origine-----
De : B. Frederics [mailto:picturethisfilm@...]
Envoye : lundi 31 octobre 2005 04:58
A : H-SIG
Objet : [h-sig] TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE

... It's in German and can be found at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html and it's file VM7046.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

It would look very much like the German word "Kreisler" (cereal trader) if
there wasn't that loop in between the "s" and the "l".

Then again, the loop might be a "z", "sz" doesn't alter the German
pronunciation, fits the Hungarian one and "Kreiszler" seems to be a quite
common surname in Hungary. The "Hungarian" spelling might have had an
identical meaning once, my own Hungarian isn't good enough to tell.

Best regards.

Peter Stern
Chartres, France


Hungary SIG #Hungary search for death record of Julia Braun #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

I am looking for suggestions on where to look next for
the death record of my gggm Julia Braun who lived in
Nemet-uj-var, Hungary -- now Gussing, Austria.

Her name appears on two of the marriage records of her
sons. On the first of these in 1892 she is recorded
as living in Nemet-uj-var. On the second of these in
1895 she is recorded as deceased (nehai), and located
in Nemet-uj-var (her husband has apparently moved to
Zalalovo).

Well, I have searched the Jewish death records for
Nemet-uj-var. I also tried looking in the civil
registration for this town. But I haven't found a
record for her. I am stumped and do not know where to
look next. Any suggestions??

Denise Pfalzer
Tampa, Florida, USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: RE:The Origins of Katz Surname #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

Thank you all for your interesting feedback regarding the KATZ surname
origins.

I the discussion was a very interesting one. We learned that although a
surname, like Katz, that is believed to have existed since "forever",
things might be quite different.

Thank you,

Isaac Katz
Israel


Viewmate help - Hungarian translation VM7061 #hungary

ssroth@...
 

I have uploaded a photo caption to Viewmate. It is written in Hungarian. I
would very much appreciate if
someone would be kind enough to do the translation for me.

The direct link to the document is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7061
Would you please reply to me directly at ssroth@...

With many thanks,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Viewmate help - Hungarian translation VM7061 #hungary

ssroth@...
 

I have uploaded a photo caption to Viewmate. It is written in Hungarian. I
would very much appreciate if
someone would be kind enough to do the translation for me.

The direct link to the document is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7061
Would you please reply to me directly at ssroth@...

With many thanks,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


Re: SCHWARTZ Family - Unghvar #hungary

Judy Dennen <errnjd@...>
 

My Jacob Schwartz was also born in Ungvar, but in 1899. They settled in
Pittsburgh, PA and he remained a bachelor until the day he died. Sorry this
thread did not pan out.

Judy Dennen: Searching for:
Shapiro/Shpunt >from Minsk,Chicago
Schwartz >from Ungvar,Pittsburgh
Denin/Dennen >from Kelme,Chicago
Shapiro/Friedman >from Krasnopol,Chicago

----- Original Message -----
From: "maurice swarts" <mswarts@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: [h-sig] SCHWARTZ Family - Unghvar


my greatgrandfather Jacob SCHWARTZ was born in Unghvar now Uzgorod /
Uzhhorod on 10 October 1832.

Jacob emigrated to England in the 1850's - he fathered ten children and
became a naturalised British citizen in 1876 - he was a jeweller by
trade

I am searching for any help in locating information on his family, parents
and siblings in what was the AustroHungarian empire in the 1800's -
Unghvar is now Uzhhorod in the Ukraine.

Maurice Swarts

Moderator: It is easier for H-SIG subscribers to provide assistance if
you tell us where you live and which resources you have already consulted.
If you live in Brazil, for example, we won't suggest that you check
resources at the US Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. Have you already
searched the JewishGen Family Finder, the All Hungary Database, and other
resources provided by JewishGen?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: SCHWARTZ Family - Unghvar #hungary

Judy Dennen <errnjd@...>
 

My Jacob Schwartz was also born in Ungvar, but in 1899. They settled in
Pittsburgh, PA and he remained a bachelor until the day he died. Sorry this
thread did not pan out.

Judy Dennen: Searching for:
Shapiro/Shpunt >from Minsk,Chicago
Schwartz >from Ungvar,Pittsburgh
Denin/Dennen >from Kelme,Chicago
Shapiro/Friedman >from Krasnopol,Chicago

----- Original Message -----
From: "maurice swarts" <mswarts@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: [h-sig] SCHWARTZ Family - Unghvar


my greatgrandfather Jacob SCHWARTZ was born in Unghvar now Uzgorod /
Uzhhorod on 10 October 1832.

Jacob emigrated to England in the 1850's - he fathered ten children and
became a naturalised British citizen in 1876 - he was a jeweller by
trade

I am searching for any help in locating information on his family, parents
and siblings in what was the AustroHungarian empire in the 1800's -
Unghvar is now Uzhhorod in the Ukraine.

Maurice Swarts

Moderator: It is easier for H-SIG subscribers to provide assistance if
you tell us where you live and which resources you have already consulted.
If you live in Brazil, for example, we won't suggest that you check
resources at the US Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC. Have you already
searched the JewishGen Family Finder, the All Hungary Database, and other
resources provided by JewishGen?


Re: TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE #hungary

Peter Reiniger <p_reinig@...>
 

The German word "Kreisler" (cereal trader?) does not exist. It could
be "Greisler" i.e. a small shopkeeper.

Peter REINIGER
La Boissiere


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: TRANSLATION OF WORD PLEASE #hungary

Peter Reiniger <p_reinig@...>
 

The German word "Kreisler" (cereal trader?) does not exist. It could
be "Greisler" i.e. a small shopkeeper.

Peter REINIGER
La Boissiere


Re: * New resource to help your search #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Tom,

This is a fantastic job on your part. It will be a big help to many people.
our help and response to many questions on this list has helped many
people, and I thank you for that.

Pat

At 01:04 PM 11/4/2005, Tom Venetianer wrote:
Dear all,

I have been developing a single-step search engine for finding Jewish
vital records at the FHL site <http://www.familysearch.org/>. As you know,
their site is quite rigid and difficult to navigate and to search.

I created an interface which is simple and handy. It's entry page can be
found at <http://venetia.95mb.com/hungary/>. This page allows you to
search the FHL library, covering ALL Hungarian Jewish records they have
microfilmed. It contains over 450 locations, updated until October 2005.

I believe this page and its navigation is self-explanatory: The ABC
listing allows you to reach alphabetically the name of any town or village
in FHL's repository. The side bar permits navigation by county (varmegye)
names. Those without links do not have filmed records.

The body frame carries the resulting listing with two links for each entry:

"details", which links to FHL's Title Details page for that location, and

"films", which takes you to FHL's Film Notes page, containing the listing
of all films available for that particular location.

Notice that once you reached a FHL page, you are navigating inside their
site. To come back to mine you will have to use your browser's "back button".

I hope you will find this useful.

I'm now working on the Slovak records/films. Please let me have your
feedback if this is indeed something you feel I should develop further.
Any ideas and suggestions are welcome.

Regards
Tom

Caveat: The site where my pages are hosted is a free hosting resource
which exists because of income generated >from banner advertising. I
strongly recommend you activate a pop-up windows blocker because each time
you navigate through one of my pages a new banner will pop-up.
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Some Basic Questions #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

What I meant to say was that the catalog of FHL Jewish records on the
JewishGen databases page does not include records that have been filmed
SINCE the time when the catalog was created. Always check the FHL
catalog for up-to-date info. Tom Venetianer has created a search
engine that makes it even easier to find Hungarian Jewish records in
the FHL collection. You can find it at
http://venetia.95mb.com/hungary/

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * New resource to help your search #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Tom,

This is a fantastic job on your part. It will be a big help to many people.
our help and response to many questions on this list has helped many
people, and I thank you for that.

Pat

At 01:04 PM 11/4/2005, Tom Venetianer wrote:
Dear all,

I have been developing a single-step search engine for finding Jewish
vital records at the FHL site <http://www.familysearch.org/>. As you know,
their site is quite rigid and difficult to navigate and to search.

I created an interface which is simple and handy. It's entry page can be
found at <http://venetia.95mb.com/hungary/>. This page allows you to
search the FHL library, covering ALL Hungarian Jewish records they have
microfilmed. It contains over 450 locations, updated until October 2005.

I believe this page and its navigation is self-explanatory: The ABC
listing allows you to reach alphabetically the name of any town or village
in FHL's repository. The side bar permits navigation by county (varmegye)
names. Those without links do not have filmed records.

The body frame carries the resulting listing with two links for each entry:

"details", which links to FHL's Title Details page for that location, and

"films", which takes you to FHL's Film Notes page, containing the listing
of all films available for that particular location.

Notice that once you reached a FHL page, you are navigating inside their
site. To come back to mine you will have to use your browser's "back button".

I hope you will find this useful.

I'm now working on the Slovak records/films. Please let me have your
feedback if this is indeed something you feel I should develop further.
Any ideas and suggestions are welcome.

Regards
Tom

Caveat: The site where my pages are hosted is a free hosting resource
which exists because of income generated >from banner advertising. I
strongly recommend you activate a pop-up windows blocker because each time
you navigate through one of my pages a new banner will pop-up.
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Some Basic Questions #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

What I meant to say was that the catalog of FHL Jewish records on the
JewishGen databases page does not include records that have been filmed
SINCE the time when the catalog was created. Always check the FHL
catalog for up-to-date info. Tom Venetianer has created a search
engine that makes it even easier to find Hungarian Jewish records in
the FHL collection. You can find it at
http://venetia.95mb.com/hungary/

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA


SURNAMES: POLACSEK, BRAND, SCHAFFER #poland

norma schaffer <schaffernorma@...>
 

My maternal g-father Otto POLACSEK was born in
Weener Germany-he moved to Vienna Austria but I don't know
when. My maternal g-mother, Helene POLACSEK nee
BRAND was born in Krakow Poland. Otto left Vienna to
avoid the nazis who as my mother told me, were just
"taking the men". I am not familiar with the timetable.

My mother Edith SCHAFFER nee POLACSEK along with her
mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK left for Belgium after
Otto-I do not know how much time elapsed between my
g-father and my mother and her mother leaving Vienna
for Belgium. Otto POLACSEK was in Holland--Westerbork
is where he was before being transported to
Auschwitz.

My g-mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK was arrested in
Belgium-do not know the city, but my mother
was watching a movie at a local cinema, se came home
to discover her mother had been taken by the nazis.
My mother was saved by a Cathoic family-Geadin(spelling)
living with them for several years until she was arrested
(local nazi "snitch") in 1944 and sent to Auschwitz.

Norma Schaffer Los Angeles Ca USA


JRI Poland #Poland SURNAMES: POLACSEK, BRAND, SCHAFFER #poland

norma schaffer <schaffernorma@...>
 

My maternal g-father Otto POLACSEK was born in
Weener Germany-he moved to Vienna Austria but I don't know
when. My maternal g-mother, Helene POLACSEK nee
BRAND was born in Krakow Poland. Otto left Vienna to
avoid the nazis who as my mother told me, were just
"taking the men". I am not familiar with the timetable.

My mother Edith SCHAFFER nee POLACSEK along with her
mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK left for Belgium after
Otto-I do not know how much time elapsed between my
g-father and my mother and her mother leaving Vienna
for Belgium. Otto POLACSEK was in Holland--Westerbork
is where he was before being transported to
Auschwitz.

My g-mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK was arrested in
Belgium-do not know the city, but my mother
was watching a movie at a local cinema, se came home
to discover her mother had been taken by the nazis.
My mother was saved by a Cathoic family-Geadin(spelling)
living with them for several years until she was arrested
(local nazi "snitch") in 1944 and sent to Auschwitz.

Norma Schaffer Los Angeles Ca USA


Lublin visit #poland

jeffrey segal <jeff.segal@...>
 

I plan to visit Lublin with my elderly parents in the second week of April
2006, looking up ancestral addresses and touring sites of Jewish interest.
Would anyone who has previously been there be able to recommend
guides/interpreters and suitable hotels?

Any other advice and guidance would be very welcome too.

Thanks and regards

Jeff Segal
London

Researching
DORFGAJER, GRADEL, TEMPELDYNER, FRYDMAN (Lublin)
SEGAL, SAPHIER (Zbaraz)
STOLLAR, SHLOCHEVSKY (Poltava)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please send names of guides and hotels privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Lublin visit #poland

jeffrey segal <jeff.segal@...>
 

I plan to visit Lublin with my elderly parents in the second week of April
2006, looking up ancestral addresses and touring sites of Jewish interest.
Would anyone who has previously been there be able to recommend
guides/interpreters and suitable hotels?

Any other advice and guidance would be very welcome too.

Thanks and regards

Jeff Segal
London

Researching
DORFGAJER, GRADEL, TEMPELDYNER, FRYDMAN (Lublin)
SEGAL, SAPHIER (Zbaraz)
STOLLAR, SHLOCHEVSKY (Poltava)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please send names of guides and hotels privately.