Could someone confirm or correct the spelling of the
Yiddish shtetl name Zvil (= Russ. Zviagel', Ukr.
Zviahel')? I have seen transliterations as both Zvil
and Zvihl, which imply zayin-tsvey_vovn-yud-lamed or
zayin-tsvey_vovn-yud-hay-lamed. Unfortunately, I
haven't encountered a source actually written in
Yiddish.
Thanks,
Marc L. Greenberg
Lawrence, KS, USA

Researching: KLEIN - Kishinev; BLAU - Tiszakarad /
Karad and Debrecen; LERNER - Bucharest; HARRIS -
Odessa; BILANSKY, GREENBERG, HERMAN - Novohrad
Volynskij / Zviagel'

Could someone confirm or correct the spelling of the
Yiddish shtetl name Zvil (= Russ. Zviagel', Ukr.
Zviahel')? I have seen transliterations as both Zvil
and Zvihl, which imply zayin-tsvey_vovn-yud-lamed or
zayin-tsvey_vovn-yud-hay-lamed. Unfortunately, I
haven't encountered a source actually written in
Yiddish.
Thanks,
Marc L. Greenberg
Lawrence, KS, USA

Researching: KLEIN - Kishinev; BLAU - Tiszakarad /
Karad and Debrecen; LERNER - Bucharest; HARRIS -
Odessa; BILANSKY, GREENBERG, HERMAN - Novohrad
Volynskij / Zviagel'

I have been sent photos of the Prussak family and have posted them
on my Riga shtetlinks page.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm
click on ancestors photos or go direct to URL

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/Ancestors_Photos.htm

Arlene Beare
Webmaster Rigapage

I have been sent photos of the Prussak family and have posted them
on my Riga shtetlinks page.
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm
click on ancestors photos or go direct to URL

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/Ancestors_Photos.htm

Arlene Beare
Webmaster Rigapage

Thanks to everyone who helped to translate the information on the back
of the picture that I uploaded to ViewMate.

The consensus is that this is a picture of a fellow named Marci, which
is often a nickname for Marton but could possibly also be a nickname
for Markus, the name of one of my paternal grandfather's younger
brothers.

Appears that three different people wrote on the back of the picture.

The inscription on the bottom says: To my dear sister-in-law Hermina
and To my dear older brother Victor with
love Marci

Hermina and Viktor Neumann were my paternal grandparents. I haven't
identified a great-uncle named Marton but know that my grandfather did
have a younger brother named Markus who was born in 1883.

The entry on the top says: Uncle Marci died at home December 3, 1912
(the "3" is apparently written rather unconventionally)

I have to find a sample of my Aunt Blanche's handwriting to see if she
added this information to the picture, which was found among her
belongings. Someone else also wrotethe name "Gabor " in a different
handwriting. Never heard of Gabor but he might have been one of my
father's cousins. If Marci and Markus are the same person, he was 29
when he died so Gabor could have been Marci's son.

Thanks again to everyone who helped with this effort.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching families including:

GRUNVALD/Bratislava, Michalovce, Humenne, Slov.
KOHN/Ung megye, Hung.
KORNIS/Miskolc
LEFKOVICS/Ung or Zemplen megye, Hung.
MARKUS/Sepsiszentgyorgy, Hung. (Sfante Gheorghu, Rom)
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz, Kosice
(Kassa),Ungvar, Michalovce, Presov, NYC, Cleveland
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov
(Kis-Szeben), Vranov (Varanno), Kriszti (Kereszt), Slov.
POLACSEK/Sobrance
ROZENBERG/Sobrance
SIMKO/Kosice
VERO/Debrecen, Nyirbator

i don't know whether it was "shameful" as such, but it was definitely grounds to be refused entry to the united states or canada.

also, judging >from some of the death certificates that have been posted or discussed, medical knowledge was somewhat scant, and perhaps unreliable as well. i would guess that our ancestors were no less superstitious than we are.

the fear of tuberculosis started the summer camp movement, whose original intent was to get children away >from the dirty conditions of city living, that were believed to be its causes.



....... tom klein, toronto

Thanks to everyone who helped to translate the information on the back
of the picture that I uploaded to ViewMate.

The consensus is that this is a picture of a fellow named Marci, which
is often a nickname for Marton but could possibly also be a nickname
for Markus, the name of one of my paternal grandfather's younger
brothers.

Appears that three different people wrote on the back of the picture.

The inscription on the bottom says: To my dear sister-in-law Hermina
and To my dear older brother Victor with
love Marci

Hermina and Viktor Neumann were my paternal grandparents. I haven't
identified a great-uncle named Marton but know that my grandfather did
have a younger brother named Markus who was born in 1883.

The entry on the top says: Uncle Marci died at home December 3, 1912
(the "3" is apparently written rather unconventionally)

I have to find a sample of my Aunt Blanche's handwriting to see if she
added this information to the picture, which was found among her
belongings. Someone else also wrotethe name "Gabor " in a different
handwriting. Never heard of Gabor but he might have been one of my
father's cousins. If Marci and Markus are the same person, he was 29
when he died so Gabor could have been Marci's son.

Thanks again to everyone who helped with this effort.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA

Researching families including:

GRUNVALD/Bratislava, Michalovce, Humenne, Slov.
KOHN/Ung megye, Hung.
KORNIS/Miskolc
LEFKOVICS/Ung or Zemplen megye, Hung.
MARKUS/Sepsiszentgyorgy, Hung. (Sfante Gheorghu, Rom)
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Bunkocz, Kosice
(Kassa),Ungvar, Michalovce, Presov, NYC, Cleveland
NEUMANN/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kosice (Kassa), Sabinov
(Kis-Szeben), Vranov (Varanno), Kriszti (Kereszt), Slov.
POLACSEK/Sobrance
ROZENBERG/Sobrance
SIMKO/Kosice
VERO/Debrecen, Nyirbator

i don't know whether it was "shameful" as such, but it was definitely grounds to be refused entry to the united states or canada.

also, judging >from some of the death certificates that have been posted or discussed, medical knowledge was somewhat scant, and perhaps unreliable as well. i would guess that our ancestors were no less superstitious than we are.

the fear of tuberculosis started the summer camp movement, whose original intent was to get children away >from the dirty conditions of city living, that were believed to be its causes.



....... tom klein, toronto

I have just received a photocopy of a 60 page name listing of the jewish
community of Levice published shortly after the war. The names are
ocasionally in alphabetical order. Some of the names contain death
dates/places, but most simply state "unknown" or "did not return". For
example, here is an entry for my grandfather's stepmother and his
half-brother:

vd. Erdos Berta nezvestna (unknown)
Erdos Imrich 16.XII.1944, Osw.

If your family is >from Levice, please contact me offlist and I will try to
locate your relatives' names.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@...
Business E-mail: bookstore@...
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS

I have just received a photocopy of a 60 page name listing of the jewish
community of Levice published shortly after the war. The names are
ocasionally in alphabetical order. Some of the names contain death
dates/places, but most simply state "unknown" or "did not return". For
example, here is an entry for my grandfather's stepmother and his
half-brother:

vd. Erdos Berta nezvestna (unknown)
Erdos Imrich 16.XII.1944, Osw.

If your family is >from Levice, please contact me offlist and I will try to
locate your relatives' names.

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@...
Business E-mail: bookstore@...
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

I took a look at the Hungarian genealogy website produced by Janos Bogardi,
and much to my surprise found the announcement to a link for a list of
archival holdings for the Transcarpathian archives. You can find the link
below.

http://www.radixlog.com/

Sadly, the whole report is written only in Ukrainian!

http://www.archives.gov.ua/Publicat/Guidebooks/Putivnyk-Zak-obl.php

The file is in PDF format, and appears to contain mostly lists of towns with
the years available for certain records. If someone is able to convert the
file >from PDF format into word format, I think it would then be possible to
use software to transliterate the Cyrillic into the Latin alphabet so it may
be more useful for the rest of us.

Please share your thoughts and ideas!

Sincerely,

Adam Smith

New York, NY

Searching:
OBERLANDER: Bereg region, and eastern Hungary
SAPSOVICS/SAPSOWITZ: Mainly Maramaros
TAMBOR: All

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

I took a look at the Hungarian genealogy website produced by Janos Bogardi,
and much to my surprise found the announcement to a link for a list of
archival holdings for the Transcarpathian archives. You can find the link
below.

http://www.radixlog.com/

Sadly, the whole report is written only in Ukrainian!

http://www.archives.gov.ua/Publicat/Guidebooks/Putivnyk-Zak-obl.php

The file is in PDF format, and appears to contain mostly lists of towns with
the years available for certain records. If someone is able to convert the
file >from PDF format into word format, I think it would then be possible to
use software to transliterate the Cyrillic into the Latin alphabet so it may
be more useful for the rest of us.

Please share your thoughts and ideas!

Sincerely,

Adam Smith

New York, NY

Searching:
OBERLANDER: Bereg region, and eastern Hungary
SAPSOVICS/SAPSOWITZ: Mainly Maramaros
TAMBOR: All

I was looking at the 1910 Census for my cousin Adolph MAYER. In the
column for his place of birth and that of his parents what was
written was "Ger German."

What does the Ger connote? I know where he was born --Billigheim, Baden, Germany.

Thomas Krakauer, Durham, NC, USA e-mail tkrakauer@...

Researching: GOTTSCHALK >from N. Germany (Hannover); MOLLING >from anywhere
(Hannover); KRAKAUER-Posen, Breslau, Berlin, Landau am Pfalz; STERN -Soest,
ROTHSCHILD - Stadtoldendorf; MAYER and HEUMANN - Billigheim and Hoffenheim.

I was looking at the 1910 Census for my cousin Adolph MAYER. In the
column for his place of birth and that of his parents what was
written was "Ger German."

What does the Ger connote? I know where he was born --Billigheim, Baden, Germany.

Thomas Krakauer, Durham, NC, USA e-mail tkrakauer@...

Researching: GOTTSCHALK >from N. Germany (Hannover); MOLLING >from anywhere
(Hannover); KRAKAUER-Posen, Breslau, Berlin, Landau am Pfalz; STERN -Soest,
ROTHSCHILD - Stadtoldendorf; MAYER and HEUMANN - Billigheim and Hoffenheim.

Dear Folks,
After joining my wife's cousin in working on the family tree, I noted how
many Buttenhauser families are represented on the Family Tree of the Jewish
People at JewishGen, & another on the xxxxx genealogy site, each of them
interrelated by marriage. I wonder if any of the Buttenhauser researchers
have ever considered joining forces to create one tree for the town? If
anyone else has done this for their town, please contact me and talk about
the practical issues of doing such a project. The two surnames >from which
my wife comes are MARX & LIEBMAN. The surnames that married in are as
follows (some came >from other nearby cities): OETTINGER, LANDAUER,
TANNHAUSER, LEVI, EINSTEIN, LOEWENTHAL, HOFFHEIMER, HIRSCH, HILB,
FLEGENHEIMER, DEGGINGER, STERN, BERLINGER, KELLER, SPIRO, ROTHSCHILD,
BLOCH, ROHRBACHER, BAER...

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson, AZ <sorlen@...>

MODERATOR NOTE to *** all members ***: It will encourage other listmembers to take
inquiries seriously if you provide complete and accurate information about the
town(s) you mention in messages sent to the GerSIG Forum.

The JewishGen town finder (Shtetl Seeker) does not recognize the town name given
in the message above. It does report the following:
Buttenhausen 48°22' 09°29' Germany 334.2 miles SSW of Berlin
which is on a small river called the Große Lauter. The town is almose due west
of Munich in the Schwaebische Albe (Alps).

Please identify towns clearly when you write to this list. MODERATOR

Dear Folks,
After joining my wife's cousin in working on the family tree, I noted how
many Buttenhauser families are represented on the Family Tree of the Jewish
People at JewishGen, & another on the xxxxx genealogy site, each of them
interrelated by marriage. I wonder if any of the Buttenhauser researchers
have ever considered joining forces to create one tree for the town? If
anyone else has done this for their town, please contact me and talk about
the practical issues of doing such a project. The two surnames >from which
my wife comes are MARX & LIEBMAN. The surnames that married in are as
follows (some came >from other nearby cities): OETTINGER, LANDAUER,
TANNHAUSER, LEVI, EINSTEIN, LOEWENTHAL, HOFFHEIMER, HIRSCH, HILB,
FLEGENHEIMER, DEGGINGER, STERN, BERLINGER, KELLER, SPIRO, ROTHSCHILD,
BLOCH, ROHRBACHER, BAER...

Best, Steve Orlen Tucson, AZ <sorlen@...>

MODERATOR NOTE to *** all members ***: It will encourage other listmembers to take
inquiries seriously if you provide complete and accurate information about the
town(s) you mention in messages sent to the GerSIG Forum.

The JewishGen town finder (Shtetl Seeker) does not recognize the town name given
in the message above. It does report the following:
Buttenhausen 48°22' 09°29' Germany 334.2 miles SSW of Berlin
which is on a small river called the Große Lauter. The town is almose due west
of Munich in the Schwaebische Albe (Alps).

Please identify towns clearly when you write to this list. MODERATOR

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:27:25 UTC, whitehorse777@...
(whitehorse777) opined:

My paternal grandmother parents originated >from Palermo.I have found, on
numerous sites, that the surname is Jewish in origin. Can anybody give
me any direction/guidance on where to search further.
Respectfully,
Charles Wade

The name simply means "German" in Italian. Probably the family came to
Central or Southern Italy perceived as Germans, based on their speech
-- although that may have been any German dialect, including Yiddish
or even that spoken in Northern Italy.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:27:25 UTC, whitehorse777@...
(whitehorse777) opined:

My paternal grandmother parents originated >from Palermo.I have found, on
numerous sites, that the surname is Jewish in origin. Can anybody give
me any direction/guidance on where to search further.
Respectfully,
Charles Wade

The name simply means "German" in Italian. Probably the family came to
Central or Southern Italy perceived as Germans, based on their speech
-- although that may have been any German dialect, including Yiddish
or even that spoken in Northern Italy.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.

The Achievement Awards Committee of the IAJGS (International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies) has put out a
call to its member organizations for nominations for these
four prestigious annual awards recognizing excellence in
Jewish genealogy:

1. IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award

2. Outstanding Contribution to Jewish Genealogy via the
Internet, Print or Electronic Product

3. Outstanding Programming or Project that Advanced the
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4. Outstanding Publication by a Member Organization of
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For details on each award, information on the nomination
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We encourage JewishGenners to be part of the process by
contacting the organizations they belong to, to suggest
worthy recipients. For a list of the 80 JGSs and SIGs in 15
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can be made only by these member organizations, not by
individuals.

Nominations must be postmarked or emailed by April 1, 2006.
The awards will be announced and presented on Thursday,
August 17 at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy in New York City.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
rsteinig@...

... for the IAJGS Achievement Awards Committee

Carol Davidson Baird (Past President, San Diego JGS)
Hal Bookbinder (Immediate Past President, IAJGS)
Joel Spector (Secretary, IAJGS)
Renee Stern Steinig, Chair (Vice President, JGS of Long Island)
Ignacio Sternberg (President, Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Venezuela)

The Achievement Awards Committee of the IAJGS (International
Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies) has put out a
call to its member organizations for nominations for these
four prestigious annual awards recognizing excellence in
Jewish genealogy:

1. IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award

2. Outstanding Contribution to Jewish Genealogy via the
Internet, Print or Electronic Product

3. Outstanding Programming or Project that Advanced the
Objectives of Jewish Genealogy

4. Outstanding Publication by a Member Organization of
IAJGS

For details on each award, information on the nomination
process, and a listing of all previous winners, go to
www.iajgs.org/awards_files/awards.html and click the
Achievement Awards "Call for Nominations"

We encourage JewishGenners to be part of the process by
contacting the organizations they belong to, to suggest
worthy recipients. For a list of the 80 JGSs and SIGs in 15
countries that make up the IAJGS, see
www.iajgs.org/Member-Index.htm . Please note that nominations
can be made only by these member organizations, not by
individuals.

Nominations must be postmarked or emailed by April 1, 2006.
The awards will be announced and presented on Thursday,
August 17 at the 26th IAJGS International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy in New York City.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
rsteinig@...

... for the IAJGS Achievement Awards Committee

Carol Davidson Baird (Past President, San Diego JGS)
Hal Bookbinder (Immediate Past President, IAJGS)
Joel Spector (Secretary, IAJGS)
Renee Stern Steinig, Chair (Vice President, JGS of Long Island)
Ignacio Sternberg (President, Asociacion de Genealogia Judia de Venezuela)