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Re: RIJO website has disappeared #germany

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

On 5 Jul , 2005, at 4:08 AM, Andreas J Schwab wrote:
Does anybody know why the RIJO website has disappeared?
This site was (I think) organzed by Obermayer awardees Gerhard JOCHEM
and Susanne RIEGER and had very good information mainly on Nuernberg.
The address was: http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE/homepage.htm
I also tried: www.rijo-research.de
but this site is supposedly under construction.
I was very shocked by your message, Andreas, and so I went searching
for their homepage. You are right. It has disappeared. And yet, as of
7/7/05, webverzeichnis.de gives the following information on the RIJO page:
Titel:
RIJO

Beschreibung:
J=FCdische Geschichte, NS-Zeit und Nachkriegsgeschichte in Bayern sowie

allgemeine Informationen zum Thema Zwangsarbeit w=E4hrend des Zweiten

Weltkriegs.

Kategorie:
Regional > Europa > Deutschland > Bayern > Gesellschaft > Geschichte

Link:
http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE/german.htm

However, that link brings up something else. Gerhard, if you are
reading this, please give us your new address!

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel <martha@bgu.ac.il>


German SIG #Germany Re: RIJO website has disappeared #germany

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

On 5 Jul , 2005, at 4:08 AM, Andreas J Schwab wrote:
Does anybody know why the RIJO website has disappeared?
This site was (I think) organzed by Obermayer awardees Gerhard JOCHEM
and Susanne RIEGER and had very good information mainly on Nuernberg.
The address was: http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE/homepage.htm
I also tried: www.rijo-research.de
but this site is supposedly under construction.
I was very shocked by your message, Andreas, and so I went searching
for their homepage. You are right. It has disappeared. And yet, as of
7/7/05, webverzeichnis.de gives the following information on the RIJO page:
Titel:
RIJO

Beschreibung:
J=FCdische Geschichte, NS-Zeit und Nachkriegsgeschichte in Bayern sowie

allgemeine Informationen zum Thema Zwangsarbeit w=E4hrend des Zweiten

Weltkriegs.

Kategorie:
Regional > Europa > Deutschland > Bayern > Gesellschaft > Geschichte

Link:
http://home.t-online.de/home/RIJONUE/german.htm

However, that link brings up something else. Gerhard, if you are
reading this, please give us your new address!

Martha Lev-Zion, Israel <martha@bgu.ac.il>


Re; Jewish surnames #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

Does this assist the discussion?

InLionel Kochan's new book, The Making of Western Jewry, 1600-1819, page
233, he states that under Joseph II, 'by a patent of 1787 they were required to
discard their inherited Jewish names and take on German given and family
names'.

One possible inference >from this is that Jews could decide to take on
whichever Jewish names they wished.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re; Jewish surnames #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

Does this assist the discussion?

InLionel Kochan's new book, The Making of Western Jewry, 1600-1819, page
233, he states that under Joseph II, 'by a patent of 1787 they were required to
discard their inherited Jewish names and take on German given and family
names'.

One possible inference >from this is that Jews could decide to take on
whichever Jewish names they wished.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England


broken branches. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

I recently attended a Matzeva here in Israel of a man aged 60 - the memorial
stone was in the shape of a tree stump - comments >from the officiating Rabbi
were - 'a life cut short'.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen broken branches. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

I recently attended a Matzeva here in Israel of a man aged 60 - the memorial
stone was in the shape of a tree stump - comments >from the officiating Rabbi
were - 'a life cut short'.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


Re: How to finnd the street names from the Census ED- Thank you #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Ilya and Nick,

Please be aware that if you are using the map room at the NYPL
At Fifth Avenue and 42nd Street, the library is closed on
Mondays.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

Thanks, Nick, for your suggestion. I got all the info I needed.
Ilya
I imagine the maps will be in the New York City Library.

Nick Landau
London, UK


Bob Shapiro #general

Dr. Trevor Waner
 

I am looking for Bob SHAPIRO. He was born in the States and served in the
World War II. He partook in Alyiah bet (the illegal immigaratin) before
1948. He settle in Israel and opened a "Hi Fi" shop in Netanyah.
He msut be about 79 years of age now.
Can anyone help?

Best regards,

Trevor Waner
Rehovot, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: How to finnd the street names from the Census ED- Thank you #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Ilya and Nick,

Please be aware that if you are using the map room at the NYPL
At Fifth Avenue and 42nd Street, the library is closed on
Mondays.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

Thanks, Nick, for your suggestion. I got all the info I needed.
Ilya
I imagine the maps will be in the New York City Library.

Nick Landau
London, UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bob Shapiro #general

Dr. Trevor Waner
 

I am looking for Bob SHAPIRO. He was born in the States and served in the
World War II. He partook in Alyiah bet (the illegal immigaratin) before
1948. He settle in Israel and opened a "Hi Fi" shop in Netanyah.
He msut be about 79 years of age now.
Can anyone help?

Best regards,

Trevor Waner
Rehovot, Israel


Re: Etymology of the name KRAVITZ #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:14:39 UTC, jrw@brown.edu (Judith Romney Wegner)
opined:

This particular folk-etymology is fascinating for another reason
also: it could neve have evolved but for the fact that the sounds
"B" and "V" are rendered by the same alphabet character in
Cyrillic. Otherwise there would have been no reason to associate the
V sound in KRAVITZ with the B sound in "B'Oholei" in the quoted
> verse >from Psalms.
Stan Goodman replied:

This is untrue. The sounds 'B" and "V" are not rendered by the same
character in any version of the Cyrillic alphabet. The two characters look
similar enough to anyone who does not know the alphabet or the language,
much as Hebrew *Resh* and *Daled*, or *Bet* and *Kaf*, confuse the non-Hebrew
reader
Stan is absolutely right. In my haste I expressed myself unclearly
I meant to say that the B and V letters all look like various forms
of "B" and that this might well explain the confusion.

The analogy Stan makes with the similarity between various Hebrew
letters is a good one. (These letters are frequently confused on
tombstones by people who have some familiarity with Hebrew alphabet
characters but don't know the language well.) My point was that the
same thing can happen with the Cyrillic "B" characters, among people
who were literate in Yiddish, but had some visual familiarity with
Cyrillic alphabet letters.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Etymology of the name KRAVITZ #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:14:39 UTC, jrw@brown.edu (Judith Romney Wegner)
opined:

This particular folk-etymology is fascinating for another reason
also: it could neve have evolved but for the fact that the sounds
"B" and "V" are rendered by the same alphabet character in
Cyrillic. Otherwise there would have been no reason to associate the
V sound in KRAVITZ with the B sound in "B'Oholei" in the quoted
> verse >from Psalms.
Stan Goodman replied:

This is untrue. The sounds 'B" and "V" are not rendered by the same
character in any version of the Cyrillic alphabet. The two characters look
similar enough to anyone who does not know the alphabet or the language,
much as Hebrew *Resh* and *Daled*, or *Bet* and *Kaf*, confuse the non-Hebrew
reader
Stan is absolutely right. In my haste I expressed myself unclearly
I meant to say that the B and V letters all look like various forms
of "B" and that this might well explain the confusion.

The analogy Stan makes with the similarity between various Hebrew
letters is a good one. (These letters are frequently confused on
tombstones by people who have some familiarity with Hebrew alphabet
characters but don't know the language well.) My point was that the
same thing can happen with the Cyrillic "B" characters, among people
who were literate in Yiddish, but had some visual familiarity with
Cyrillic alphabet letters.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


Czech Torah story at the Jewish Film Festival #general

Vitdoc@...
 

The Fine family of Dallas who have worked with the Cz Torah Network
( www.czechtorah.org) have informed me that Bob Curry's documentary
"Dancing With Torah" has just been notified that it was accepted, by the Dallas
Video Festival.

It will be screened on Sunday, August 7th at Noon, at the Dallas Theatre
Center in the Video Cabaret.

The main characters of Bob's film, are an antique Torah Scroll from
Horovice, Czechoslovakia that survived the Nazis, The Dallas Survivor
Community (many of them who are featured prominently in the film), and a
young boy (Zachary Fine Albert) who set out to raise the funds to bring
the survivor scroll to Dallas.

Much of the Narration is done brilliantly by Rabbi Kenneth D. Roseman.
Who acted as an advisor for the project.

The video, will take you on a journey >from Dallas, to London, to
Horovice, and then back to the Torah's new home The Dallas Holocaust
Museum.

The survivors messages about hope and survival are immeasurable, the
Torah's message is everlasting.

It is a touching, and uplifting documentary.
Hope all those in Texas might get to see it.
Susan Boyer
LA CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Czech Torah story at the Jewish Film Festival #general

Vitdoc@...
 

The Fine family of Dallas who have worked with the Cz Torah Network
( www.czechtorah.org) have informed me that Bob Curry's documentary
"Dancing With Torah" has just been notified that it was accepted, by the Dallas
Video Festival.

It will be screened on Sunday, August 7th at Noon, at the Dallas Theatre
Center in the Video Cabaret.

The main characters of Bob's film, are an antique Torah Scroll from
Horovice, Czechoslovakia that survived the Nazis, The Dallas Survivor
Community (many of them who are featured prominently in the film), and a
young boy (Zachary Fine Albert) who set out to raise the funds to bring
the survivor scroll to Dallas.

Much of the Narration is done brilliantly by Rabbi Kenneth D. Roseman.
Who acted as an advisor for the project.

The video, will take you on a journey >from Dallas, to London, to
Horovice, and then back to the Torah's new home The Dallas Holocaust
Museum.

The survivors messages about hope and survival are immeasurable, the
Torah's message is everlasting.

It is a touching, and uplifting documentary.
Hope all those in Texas might get to see it.
Susan Boyer
LA CA


SCHLEIFER #general

Aliza Maor <alizam@...>
 

Dear All,
Is there anyone out there who knows anything about the
following family. I am interested in finding Jennie's
connection to my family. So if this sounds familiar please
contact me.
Jennie and Jacob SCHLEIFER had 6 daughters,
In 1920 they lived in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn.
The daugters where Beatrice/Rebecca born 1909, Dora born 1911,
Lillian born 1913, Minnie born 1916, Anna born 1918 and
Helen born 1920.
In 1930 they were living at #936 45th street, they shared
this house with another family named Warshaw.
Thank you,
Aliza Maor
Rishon Le Zion, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SCHLEIFER #general

Aliza Maor <alizam@...>
 

Dear All,
Is there anyone out there who knows anything about the
following family. I am interested in finding Jennie's
connection to my family. So if this sounds familiar please
contact me.
Jennie and Jacob SCHLEIFER had 6 daughters,
In 1920 they lived in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn.
The daugters where Beatrice/Rebecca born 1909, Dora born 1911,
Lillian born 1913, Minnie born 1916, Anna born 1918 and
Helen born 1920.
In 1930 they were living at #936 45th street, they shared
this house with another family named Warshaw.
Thank you,
Aliza Maor
Rishon Le Zion, Israel


Re: New Haven,CT-Port of Entry #general

Joel Stearman <dpastear@...>
 

Abuwasta Abuwasta wrote:

Dear Genners,
Just spoke to an Israeli of American origin whose grandfather came to the US
from Lithuania at around 1901 via New Haven,CT. There was a customs house in
New Haven and some ships which carried passengers got them off board in New
Haven. He claims that there > was quite a number of Jews who took this route.
I hope that this will open an avenue to those who do not find their relatives
on EIDB.
To those looking for arrivals at New Haven, CT:

NARA Microfilm Publication M575, "Copies of Lists of Passengers Arriving at
Miscellaneous Ports on the Atlantic and Gulf Coasts and at Ports on the Great
Lakes, 1820-1873" can be accessed at most National Archives Regional Centers or
at NARA in DC. Arrivals at New Haven, CT, 1820-1873, can be found of Roll 5 of
15 rolls.

NARA Microfilm Publication M334, "A Supplemental Index to Passenger Lists of
Vessels Arriving at Atlantic and Gulf Coast Ports (Excluding New York), 1820-1874"
can also be accessed at NARA Regional Centers or at NARA in DC.

Note that these publications only cover the period 1820-1874.

Good Luck!!

Joel Stearman
Potomac, MD
Volunteer Genealogy Consultant, NARA DC


Lodz area to France #lodz #poland

TE <tome1111@...>
 

I have some relatives >from Lodz who went to France in the 1920s or earlier.
This seems unusual to me. I'd like to find out if any of you had this same
experience.

I noticed on the Yad Vashem site, that some relatives were born there in
1864 but died in the Shoah. This information is based on a list of
deportation >from France found in the Le Memorial de la deportation des juifs
de france, Beate et Serge Klarsfeld, Paris 1978.

Tom Erribe
CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New Haven,CT-Port of Entry #general

Joel Stearman <dpastear@...>
 

Abuwasta Abuwasta wrote:

Dear Genners,
Just spoke to an Israeli of American origin whose grandfather came to the US
from Lithuania at around 1901 via New Haven,CT. There was a customs house in
New Haven and some ships which carried passengers got them off board in New
Haven. He claims that there > was quite a number of Jews who took this route.
I hope that this will open an avenue to those who do not find their relatives
on EIDB.
To those looking for arrivals at New Haven, CT:

NARA Microfilm Publication M575, "Copies of Lists of Passengers Arriving at
Miscellaneous Ports on the Atlantic and Gulf Coasts and at Ports on the Great
Lakes, 1820-1873" can be accessed at most National Archives Regional Centers or
at NARA in DC. Arrivals at New Haven, CT, 1820-1873, can be found of Roll 5 of
15 rolls.

NARA Microfilm Publication M334, "A Supplemental Index to Passenger Lists of
Vessels Arriving at Atlantic and Gulf Coast Ports (Excluding New York), 1820-1874"
can also be accessed at NARA Regional Centers or at NARA in DC.

Note that these publications only cover the period 1820-1874.

Good Luck!!

Joel Stearman
Potomac, MD
Volunteer Genealogy Consultant, NARA DC


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Lodz area to France #lodz #poland

TE <tome1111@...>
 

I have some relatives >from Lodz who went to France in the 1920s or earlier.
This seems unusual to me. I'd like to find out if any of you had this same
experience.

I noticed on the Yad Vashem site, that some relatives were born there in
1864 but died in the Shoah. This information is based on a list of
deportation >from France found in the Le Memorial de la deportation des juifs
de france, Beate et Serge Klarsfeld, Paris 1978.

Tom Erribe
CA