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Re: SIG emails

Davida Handler
 

I am unable to figure out how to get my SIG Digests back.  I also can't seem to log into the JewishGen home page.  Is there any help line that those of us who are not only confused but frustrated by this whole change?  I NEED HELP!!


On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 9:00 AM sharon yampell <GenealogicalGenie@...> wrote:

As my inbox fills up with email regarding the new format for the general JewishGen SIG, I can say in my case, I am still getting mail from the Czernovitz SIG…

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: Siddy Rosenberg <49tikkunolam@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:55:08 AM
To: sharon yampell <GenealogicalGenie@...>
Cc: main@... <main@...>; davidahandlernv@... <davidahandlernv@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] SIG emails
 
I used to receive an email daily from several SIGs. Now I'm not receiving any. I sincerely doubt there's been no activity in the several SIGs I belong to.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:49 AM sharon yampell <GenealogicalGenie@...> wrote:

If no one wrote to the other SIG’s then you didn’t miss anything…we are in a holiday season so maybe some people are not up for keeping in touch until after Simchat Torah is over…

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Sovtah <49tikkunolam@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:15:50 AM
To: davidahandlernv@... <davidahandlernv@...>; main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] SIG emails
 

I am not receiving SIG emails either. How do I see what I've missed?


Solution to private replies when getting digest

Marjorie Geiser
 

Hi all,

I figured out the answer to my question on this topic. As some of you have noticed, when you received digests, not all posts have a link to their email, so you can privately respond to them.

However, I just 'tested' this, and it works. Now, if you're using your PHONE, I'm not sure this will work, but on my computer it does.

At the bottom of each individual post (in the digest), you have various options, such as 'View/Reply Online | Reply to Group... ' etc. If the person is sending the message from their email program, such as what I'm doing right now, I suspect you would be able to click my email and email me directly. But if the person is NOT, then here is what I've found works.

Click that option at the bottom of the particular message, that says, "View/Reply Online." You'll likely see the various replies to that particular thread. But below each message, you'll see where it says "Reply." When you click that button, you'll be able to type in a reply. HOWEVER, at the bottom of the reply box, you'll see a little box that says "Private." Once you click that box, the little green box at the bottom of the reply box that BEFORE said "Reply to Group and Sender" will change to a blue box and say "Reply to Sender."

Margie Geiser
Arizona USA


Jewish Genealogical Society Meetings

Rose Blitzstein Elbaum
 

Is there a policy, and if so, what is it, regarding the holding of Society meetings on Jewish holidays? I have noticed numerous times that meetings or activities are held either on Shabbat or lesser celebrated Jewish holidays such as the upcoming Shemini Atseret. This is disconcerting to those of us who are excluded from participating. 

Rose Elbaum 
Potomac, MD


Jewish Hungarian baron? #hungary

joseph just
 

My family has a tradition that one of our ancestors was given the title of baron. Does anyone how and where these titles were recorded?

Sarah Just


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Harriet Ottenheimer
 

The Authors Guild has an excellent discussion group format. You should consider using the same service that they are using. The one you have chosen is impossible to read/use.
Harriet Ottenheimer

On 10/16/2019 1:35 AM, Avraham Groll wrote:

Dear JewishGen Community,


Thank you for everyone's feedback (both positive and constructive). We want the JewishGen Discussion Group to be a place of open dialogue and for everyone's voices to be heard, and I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken the time to share their thoughts, perspectives, and suggestions. I would like to address a few points tonight:


(1) The Process

Our sole motivation has been to address some of the challenges that we previously articulated (lack of security, plain-text requirements, no accented characters, not mobile-friendly, etc). This new platform was in response to frequent complaints that our previous system was antiquated and nearly unusable for many people. 


The stats bear this out. Last year, more than 40,000 people joined JewishGen as Members. Yet nearly none of them joined the Discussion Groups. This is not a typo - nearly none. We believe this was due to the very unfriendly interface of the old system, along with many of the rules/guidelines which were woefully outdated. As such, one of our goals of 2019 was to identify a replacement and to implement it. 


We tested a number of systems and eventually settled on the current platform. Our beta testing took place throughout the summer and early Fall and was performed by a group of ~150 people. The beta-testing was opened to anyone who wished to participate since the end of July. 


(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 


A possible solution to this will be to select the “Daily Summary” option. This feature will produce a once-daily list of the messages posted that day, but would not (unlike a Digest) contain the full message content. It would include just the subject lines, each being a link to the complete topic/list of messages. In this way, you will receive only one email per day. 


An additional advantage: when you click on the subject(s) that are of interest, you will be able to view all messages associated with that particular topic (including all messages/replies) - thus resolving the confusion about looking at posts with no previous messages included.


(3) Reply to Sender

We have enabled a feature whereby Members (who receive either individual emails, and/or full-featured digests) can reply directly to the message sender (and not respond to the entire group). That said, we encourage group discussions, as others might value the information. 


(4) Login and Member Guide

Many have asked about the login process to the new groups. This is to confirm that access to the JewishGen.org Discussion Group requires a new registration ((i.e. your JewishGen ID# will NOT work on groups.JewishGen.org). Anyone who was previously subscribed to the JewishGen.org discussion group, has been automatically assigned a password. Please enter your email at the following link, and a password link will be sent to you: https://groups.jewishgen.org/sendloginlink.

For additional information about this, please read through our Member Guide:

https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main/wiki/The-New-JewishGen.org-Discussion-Group-Member-Guide.


(5) Next Steps

We are going to continue researching how to make this platform as great as possible. To this end, either myself or Nancy Siegel (our Communications Coordinator ) will continue to post updates on this group and via email. In addition, we will be scheduling a series of webinars after the Holiday of Sukkot is completed. During these webinars, we will demo the entire platform, and allow participants to ask questions. These sessions will be recorded and made available for viewing on our YouTube channel as well. 


In the meantime, in order to allow the groups to focus on Jewish Genealogy, we kindly ask that you keep posting on this group for Jewish Genealogy or current happenings that affect Jewish genealogy or genealogical research. If you have any suggestions/ideas, etc., we kindly ask that you not use this forum, but please send it to support@.... This should also cut down significantly the number of messages that the discussion group will receive.


I thank you all for your participation, support of our important work, and for being part of the JewishGen family.

Avraham






Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Jeff at SG
 

IMHO the old system was a real pain. I, and many others, stopped using it because of its idiosyncrasies and the overly aggressive moderators.
 
For many of us, genealogy is a hobby and thus entertainment. 
 
Jeff Malka 


Oct. 29: #DNA genealogy program at the Center for Jewish History in New York #dna

Moriah Amit
 

Please join us for the following program, presented by the Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute.

Family History Today: DNA and the Golden Rule – The Law and Ethics of Genetic Genealogy

The Legal Genealogist, Judy G. Russell, offers her expert advice on how to navigate the ethical challenges associated with DNA testing for genealogy. 


Date and Time: October 29, 6:30 PM
Location: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, New York, NY 10011
Tickets:$10 General admission; $5 Center for Jewish History/Partner members, seniors, and students

An ASL interpreter may be made available if requested in advance.

Moriah Amit
Senior Genealogy Reference Librarian
Center for Jewish History (New York, NY)

 


Re: The Herschman/Gerschman family Vitebsk- Velikyi Luki #rabbinic

Esther
 

Does anyone know of a person who can help  a friend  of mine do research in Vitebsk?

Moderator Note: please respond privately

 

ESTHER

 


Convention syllabus

Gayle Schlissel Riley
 

I have missed the last couple of conventions. We use to get a paper syllabus, How are we getting them now? I want to buy a ipad, so how will I download the syllabus into the ipad? I know this sounds silly but I just use my desktop. I have no cell phone. Please help me. I need tech support.
Thanks
Gayle Schlissel Riley,
San Gabriel


Re: Ancestry Introduces AncestryHealth(R)

J G
 

In the end, and I follow the issue of privacy quite closely, put it on line especially ancestry or any commercial for profit organization, there will be no privacy.  And that includes myheritage.


privacy in these matters no longer exists in general terms.

until nations and governments and voters pass strict laws to protect it, you are dreaming to think otherwise.

if you don't want it shared, don't share it.

inconvenient truth.

it will be shared under the current regime regarding privacy.

simple.

good luck.


Re: Translation from Polish needed #poland

Linda Kelley
 

Thank you for your replies that this is not Polish, but cursive Cyrillic.
I have revised my post.
Linda


Translation from handwritten Cyrillic #belarus #holocaust

Linda Kelley
 

This is a list of 48 martyrs from Belitzah/Belitsa, now Belarus. It is in handwritten Cyrillic.
If translated to English, I will post back to Yad Vashem and send it to JewishGen for the Holocaust database.
The Yizkor Book also has two lists in English:  https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belitsa/bel018.html
Thank you!
Linda Wolfe Kelley
Portland, OR, USA


Re: New format

Joan
 

After a few days of being very confused, I’ve got it.  Re-subscribed with a new password, clicked on daily summary, and have only received one digest this morning.  Just like the old format.  Just fiddle around and people wii get it.


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Introduction to the Bessarabia SIG website #bessarabia

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hello everybody,

As many of you know, Bessarabia SIG website (http://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia)
was completely redone two years ago. The new site contains plenty of new
features and is organized differently than the old one.

I expect that most of you already know how to use it, but in the next days I'll
provide some concepts to help you better understand it so you can take full
advantage of it.

You can also find these concepts on the website page "How to use our
website" under the section "Get started/Get started with this website"
(https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/TPL_Base.asp?id=8#S19).

Today's topic is the introduction to the main site concepts and features:

Our SIG's website is town and district oriented. It's mainly composed of three type
of contents:
- Collections of Documents and Datasets: links to information containing people's data.
- Projects: information about projects developed by our SIG (normally to acquire or generate Documents and Datasets).
- Articles: about different topics

Collections, Projects and Articles are related to towns or districts. You can navigate
from one to another through the different links on the pages.
Three features are present on every page of the site:
- Two search boxes are in the upper right corner. One is for general searches. The
other is for town name searches (see the next section).
- The left menu bar allows navigation to anyplace on the site.
- The bottom menu provides direct access to our site map, Board member contact
information, our donations page. It also has a link to our facebook page as well
as links to share our site on some of the popular social media sites.


Ariel Parkansky


Introduction to the Bessarabia SIG website #bessarabia

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hello everybody,

As many of you know, Bessarabia SIG website (http://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia)
was completely redone two years ago. The new site contains plenty of new
features and is organized differently than the old one.

I expect that most of you already know how to use it, but in the next days I'll
provide some concepts to help you better understand it so you can take full
advantage of it.

You can also find these concepts on the website page "How to use our
website" under the section "Get started/Get started with this website"
(https://www.jewishgen.org/bessarabia/TPL_Base.asp?id=8#S19).

Today's topic is the introduction to the main site concepts and features:

Our SIG's website is town and district oriented. It's mainly composed of three type
of contents:
- Collections of Documents and Datasets: links to information containing people's data.
- Projects: information about projects developed by our SIG (normally to acquire or generate Documents and Datasets).
- Articles: about different topics

Collections, Projects and Articles are related to towns or districts. You can navigate
from one to another through the different links on the pages.
Three features are present on every page of the site:
- Two search boxes are in the upper right corner. One is for general searches. The
other is for town name searches (see the next section).
- The left menu bar allows navigation to anyplace on the site.
- The bottom menu provides direct access to our site map, Board member contact
information, our donations page. It also has a link to our facebook page as well
as links to share our site on some of the popular social media sites.


Ariel Parkansky


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Dick Plotz <Dick@...>
 

The Daily Summary is equivalent to the old Index setting, not the
Digest setting. All you see with the Daily Summary are the subject
lines, many of which don't say anything about what's in the post.

Unfortunately, the 12-message limit for receiving the full message is
set by the platform and can't be increased.

It takes me MUCH longer to scan the new digests than it did the old.
Part of this is that all the dirty laundry, personal chitchat, stuff
that may be interesting but isn't about genealogy, etc. that the
moderators used to shunt off elsewhere is now being posted and has to
be waded through to reach the occasional post with genealogy content.
Part of it is that the varying fonts and styles are distracting and
rarely add any information. The new format is undoubtedly more
entertaining than the old one was, but also less informative because
of all the distractions. Which is "better" depends on whether you
place a higher value on information content or entertainment value.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:02 PM Jeff at SG <jeffmalka@...> wrote:

The new platform is a significant improvement in many ways. IMHO, the 2 major problems can be rapidly solved as follows.

1. Daily digests.
It seems that all members who under the old system were subscribed to what were once a day digests were assigned to the new platform's 'Daily Digests' which is a misnomer because they are more than daily. A more logical assignment would have been to assign them to the new platform's 'Daily Summary'.

I suggest that the administrators correct this unfortunate choice by either
a) converting all these subscriptions to the more equivalent 'Daily Summary'.
b) preferably increase the content of the 'Daily Digests' to something like 50 instead of the current 12
...


Re: JewishGen Discussion Group Update

Dennis Wulkan
 

With all due respect, the limitation on the daily digest is arbitrary and does not meet user needs.  I do not agree that it is unable to be changed.  You have the ability and the technology if you
accept our input and user needs.  After all, the so-called 12 limitation is built in, you can change it to 24 or 48 easily enough.  I find the response of Mr. Groll to be uncharacteristically non-supportive. Clearly, the beta testing did not take these factors into consideration. Please consider changing.

(2) Daily Digests/Including Previous Messages

Many have expressed displeasure with the fact that they have received multiple digests per day. Let me explain: the system is set up whereby each time 12 messages are submitted, a digest is automatically distributed. We are unable to change this. 

Dennis Wulkan

 


Re: Ancestry Introduces AncestryHealth(R)

Marjorie Geiser
 

Several years ago, when I still had my business, I taught a CEU course for registered dietitians/ health professionals on nutrigenomics. DNA testing to determine health projections had been around for awhile and is quite fascinating. I did it for the course, and as a result made a few changes in my diet.

I received that notice from Ancestry, but I would suspect that we'd have the option to keep it private. 

Margie Geiser
Arizona

Marjorie Geiser, MBA


Re: SIG emails

sharon yampell
 

If no one wrote to the other SIG’s then you didn’t miss anything…we are in a holiday season so maybe some people are not up for keeping in touch until after Simchat Torah is over…

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Sovtah <49tikkunolam@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:15:50 AM
To: davidahandlernv@... <davidahandlernv@...>; main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] SIG emails
 

I am not receiving SIG emails either. How do I see what I've missed?


Tel Aviv, Israel Marriage Record 1951 #israel

Dan Oren
 

Could any kind reader help direct me how to find a copy (printed or on-line) of the official marriage record from a 1951 Tel Aviv wedding?
Thank you kindly,
Dan Oren
Woodbridge, CT USA

36741 - 36760 of 673372