Re: Israel/Death Certificate #israel

Odeda Zlotnick

Hi Ittai,
I know you know some Hebrew, so you may find help on this site:

הוצאת תעודת פטירה (הליך) – כל-זכות (

This is a google translate version of what they say - there are links in the original:

If the application is submitted by a person who is not a first degree relative of the deceased, one must personally go to one of the Population and Immigration Authority offices and submit the application form, together with a letter with the reasons for the application or a power of attorney from the family members

The ID number is the system's way of making sure the physical documents are being sent to the requester's registered address.  Those who checked the links will have noticed that nowhere are you asked for the address the certificate should be sent to.

And it seems to me that those who can't go  personally go to one of the Population and Immigration Authority offices have to go personally to a consulate and hand in the requested documents.

Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: Israel/Death Certificate #israel

Odeda Zlotnick

Another thought, for both Mike and Ittai:
Have you considere searching Home - Israel Genealogy Research Association for those peoples marriage certificates? If they married in Israel, before 1948, you could find info about the parents, and their professions.  All you need is the names.
Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: Looking For Help With A First Name On A Marriage Certificate #names

Renee Steinig

It looks like Annie to me.

Was Isaac a brother of Hyman Edelson? Hyman's marriage record
shows the same parents -- Ruben Edelson and Anny Cohen.


Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:58 PM Carl Kaplan <carl.kaplan@...> wrote:

I found the NYC 1916 Marriage Certificate for my great-uncle, but I am having trouble reading his mother's given name. Hopefully someone with more experience can read it. Looks like her surname was Cohen.

Re: Israel/Death Certificate #israel

Ittai Hershman

The forms in both Hebrew and English seem to require the national ID number (מספר זהות).  Has anyone here succeeded in obtaining a death certificate without one, and have any advice?

My sole interest in going through this process is to discover the name of the deceased's mother.  The death occurred in 2002 and I have visited and photographed his grave in Ha'Yarkon.  His only son is also deceased (not in Israel), so I would front-end his grandchild who doesn't have the Hebrew skills to apply if I knew this would succeed, but am concerned this is a bureaucratic minefield without the ID number.

Many thanks,
Ittai Hershman

TRUSKIER, KOHN, Warsaw, Poland #poland

Yale Reisner

Dear JewishGenners:

The November 18, 2022 edition of the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita carried a notice from the Mayor of the City of Warsaw, Office of Bierut Decree Affairs, indicating that a claim on the following property had been filed on July 14, 1947 by attorney Tadeusz Myśliński on behalf of pre-war owners Regina TRUSKIER of Via Anapo 24, Rome, ITALY and Maksymilian KOHN of Rehov Ben Maimon 9, Jerusalem, PALESTINE (at the time).

The property in question is:  ul. Wspólna 1, Warsaw, designated "Hip. 1655."
(I live a block south of this property.)

 The Mayor's Office indicates that it has not been contacted about this property in over thirty years.

Heirs to this property or those with information about the heirs to this property are asked to contact the Mayor's Office within three months of the publication of the notice.

Best wishes,

Yale J. Reisner
Warsaw, Poland
JGFF #913980

Re: Looking For Help With A First Name On A Marriage Certificate #names


Cohen.  If you look at Abraham, the bride's father's name,  it ends with the same kind of hill and valley letter formation, but the "m" is one bit longer than the "n" .

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 11/19/2022 7:01 PM, Carl Kaplan via wrote:

I found the NYC 1916 Marriage Certificate for my great-uncle, but I am having trouble reading his mother's given name. Hopefully someone with more experience can read it. Looks like her surname was Cohen.

Carl Kaplan

KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania


Looking For Help With A First Name On A Marriage Certificate #names

Carl Kaplan

I found the NYC 1916 Marriage Certificate for my great-uncle, but I am having trouble reading his mother's given name. Hopefully someone with more experience can read it. Looks like her surname was Cohen.

Carl Kaplan

KAPLAN Minsk, Belarus
EDELSON, EDINBURG Kovno, Lithuania

Re: Movsha Volk descendent #lithuania

Michele Lock

I assume your Wolk family immigrated to Canada, so here are some avenues to explore –

The six siblings who are the children of Leba Volk will have left numerous records that would contain the name of their father. These would be their death certificates and their gravestones (for Hebrew name of father). From the Hebrew name, the most likely Yiddish name(s) that the father used in everyday life in Lithuania can be figured out. Their death certificates should also list where each sibling is buried.

I seem to recall reading here on the discussion board that someone was cataloging the gravestones in Jewish cemeteries in Toronto. Perhaps someone else here has information about that effort.

If you aren’t sure of the death dates of some of these siblings, you could look for newspaper obituaries. Also, check out family trees on, to find those that contain any of these siblings. Those might have information about death dates, or even info about the siblings’ father.

Another source of information might be your second cousins (grandchildren of the six Volk siblings). I’ve found that second and even third cousins often have family stories or old family trees, that are really indispensable in learning about forebears from 2-3 generations ago.

With regard to Jewishgen records – In looking for my Leybman and Lak forebears in Kovna gubernia, I found it useful to search across an entire uyezd (district), rather than focusing on records from one town at a time. My forebears moved around more than I realized. I also was able to locate records for married daughters this way.

You can check on the Routes to Roots website (, for which Jewish records have survived for individual towns. For some Lithuanian towns, the records can be rather sparse.

And lastly – in the late 1800s, there was some movement of Jews from northern Lithuania to the city of Riga, Latvia. I have found Lak forebears there, who lived in the city for some time prior to immigrating to the US. You might locate some Volk family members there.

Good luck with your searching.

Michele Lock

Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania
Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus

Re: Headstone Translation #translation


Found a DC 
Lee Hall

Re: My Cousin was Possibly Euthanized in Vienna: Looking for Hospital File #austria-czech #holocaust

Steven Turner

I want to thank everyone that posted here and sent me private messages with kind words about this story and my cousin Leo.

That email from Professor Czech is really something that I need to digest. My thinking now is that it  is most likely that Leo was murdered but I will never be able to confirm it. The fact of who signed the report and that pneumonia was usually used as the cause of death in these cases is extremely suspicious along with the fact that when my father went to visit Leo in the group home and he was not there nobody knew what happened to him. If it was a natural death they would have known and told the family.

I think what I need to turn to next is the group home and try to find out what kind of institution that was. If it was a Jewish home I would want to know what happened to it on Kristallnacht. The address of the home was  Seitenberggasse 12. If anyone here can help me find out what kind of institution was at this address in 1939 I would be most appreciative.. 

The most disturbing part of the story to me is that the pathologist who signed the report, Barbara Uiberak, was a known Nazi and was part of the large program of forced euthanasia yet she was allowed to stay in practice at Steinhof well in the 1960's. Did people just not care. To me this is a severe indictment of the postwar community and government there.

If I learn anything significant I will post it here. Thank your you interest in this story.

Shavauh tov,

Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia

Re: Maria Kovacs in Canada #canada #hungary

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 04:06 PM, Carole Binette wrote:
Familysearch has Death records from Csömödér for the years 1922-1980 and marriage records for the years 1922-1951
I browsed Deah records for the years 1922-1933. All those named Kovacs were Roman Catholic.

Jacob Shayzaf, Israel

Re: Information request for Selig or Felix Schlesser #usa

Mary-Jane Roth

The Selig Schlesser (or Szlesser) described in the responses above is in my tree.  His son David married my aunt.  How are you connected to this family?

Mary-Jane Roth
Alexandria, VA

Rabbi Mordechai Leib ZACKEIM -pinsk-Karlin, 19th century #rabbinic

Yonatan Ben-Ari

According to my ggreatuncle's diary, a certain Rabbi Mordechai Leib of Ruzhin, was the Av Bet-Din in Pinsk/Karlin  during the 19th century and that he was a "She'er basar" (blood relative) of our Family. On my searches of rabbis during the 19th century o think i found that R' Zackheim did serve there at that time.

My ggreat uncle was Reb  Chaim Dov Kantor who was the mashgiach of the yekev on zichron yacov and lived in zichron. His daughter married a WEISFISH (who was murdered in the 1920s. 

If anyone on this list is connected to the ZACKHEIM family, I would be happy to hear a confirmation of the above.  I have seen the book " The Scattered Seeds".

Tia and shavua tov

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem

Yiddish translation help needed #translation

Marilyn Golden

I'm posting for a member of my society. 
My family's clothing store was on the northeast corner of Fourth and South Sts. in Philadelphia.  
I want a translation of the attached 1916 Caplan's Department Store ad from Di Yidishe Velt.  The store was at 4th & South and was owned by my great-uncle, Mayer Caplan.  Mayer's brother, my great-grandfather Morris Caplin (sic), worked in the store.The language of the 10-line ad seems to be a mashup of English and Yiddish words, all written with the Hebrew alphabet.

Thank you,
Charlotte Peitzman


Marilyn Mazer Golden, Membership VP
Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

Poland Jewish Heritage Trip Blog #poland

Carl Feuer

My partner and I recently returned from 4 weeks touring Jewish heritage sites in Poland. Our blog is at
Topics: Why Are We Here in Poland
Memory and Resistance: Oyneg Shabes
Memory Keepers
Fejge Estera Hochberger
Lublin: A Special Place
Białystok: Ghetto Revolt
Searching For My Cousin's Grave
Carl Feuer
Ithaca NY

Re: Who was Dr. H PERETZ From Cairo #sephardic #general

Sherri Bobish

Hi Jacob,

Dr. Peretz' first name was Henri.

A Google search found:
"le docteur Henri Peretz, secrétaire général de la Société royale de médecine d'Egypte, et Mme H. Peretz le professeur L. de Carvalho, de la Faculté de médecine de Lisbonne"

1,. rue  Cheikh  Rihane,  Le  Caire. 
Secretaire : Dr.  H.  Peretz  (14,  rue  Saraya  El~ 
Kobra,  Garden-City) 
PERETZ,  Dr.  HENRI,  oculiste,  & Mme, 

14,  rue  Saraya-eLKobra,  Garden-City,  B 
42166,  Caire.  Clubs:  C F.,  G.S.C.  gH§g 
If you search (in quotes)  "Société Royale de Médecine d'Egypte" at The National Library of Israel newspaper collections you will find one 1941 article in French that mentions Dr. Peretz.

My French is very old and rusty, so I don't know if the article will give you any further clues in your search,

Best regards,

Sherri Bobish

Who was Dr. H PERETZ From Cairo #sephardic #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta

Dear Genners,

Who Was Dr. H Peretz, President of the Royal Medical Society of Egypt in the 1930s-1940s?
Except for his surname and initial I do not know anything else except for the fact that he was the President of the Egyptian Royal Medical Society. Any details?

I presume that he was not alone in the world. Any relatives somewhere?

Here is his entry from the 1941 Egyptian Directory.
Société Royale de Médecine d'Egypte, 13
r. Sultan-Hussein, Tel 42504.: Prés.: Dr. H. Peretz

Jacob Rosen


Re: Israel/Death Certificate #israel

Yakov Marks

Should anyone need an Israeli Death Certificate here is the contact info:
Population and Immigration Authority Central Contact Center
In Israel *3450
Dial from a landline: 1-222-3450
Dial from abroad: +972-2-6294666
Email: info@...
and the link to the website for requests is:
Yakov Marks

Re: Israel/Death Certificate #israel

Odeda Zlotnick

Was he an Israeli citizen, or resident?  Is she?

According to the online form:
Request for Death Certificate (
The certificate will be sent to your address as it appears in the population registry within two business days of submission.
And your cousin, if she is registered in the population registry can get an extract of the registration through here
Get a population registry extract | Population and Immigration Authority (

If your cousin is not registered, they had nowhere to send the certificate.
If she never bothered to update her registered address - ditto.  The address they have for her appears on her ID card.

If she is correctly registered -- do you know how proficient she is at filling internet forms? Can you help her via Zoom and screen sharing?

I had no problems requesting and receiving the certificates for my parents -- but their deaths were far more recent than 1963.

Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

Re: How to find divorce records in NYC or VA #usa #records

Emily Garber

The "Bronx County, New York, U.S., Divorce and Civil Case Records, 1914-1995" database on includes pages indexing court cases. While this can be helpful, the database and images do not include the contents of the actual case files. As Ina Getzoff noted, these are not public files and are closed for 100 years. So, if a case was heard before 1922, it's file might be available upon request at the appropriate Bronx court. This index interesting in that it also includes indexed civil cases for legal determinations of insanity. If you had a relative committed to an institution in a Bronx court during that time period, the case may be listed. It also includes civil cases that arose due to business transactions.

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ