On 2005.08.30, Nathan Rosenshein <nrosen@...> asked:

Can anyone explain the meaning of the term "segel" which is
sometimes found in the names of Chassidic rebbes?

An abbreviation for Segan Leviyah meaning an assistant Levi, i.e.,
one who assists a Kohen (Priest, in the Temple). The designation
usually means that the persons tradition is of descent >from the
tribe of Levi.

Larry Tauber

On 2005.08.30, Nathan Rosenshein <nrosen@...> asked:

Can anyone explain the meaning of the term "segel" which is
sometimes found in the names of Chassidic rebbes?

An abbreviation for Segan Leviyah meaning an assistant Levi, i.e.,
one who assists a Kohen (Priest, in the Temple). The designation
usually means that the persons tradition is of descent >from the
tribe of Levi.

Larry Tauber

Hi All,

I am trying to located the deceandents of a Max FISCHLER who died in 1920.
He was married to Gussie FISCHLER who died in 1959. They are both buried in
Baron Hirsch Cemetery in Staten Island, NY.

Thank You

Henry Schwartz

Hi All,

I am trying to located the deceandents of a Max FISCHLER who died in 1920.
He was married to Gussie FISCHLER who died in 1959. They are both buried in
Baron Hirsch Cemetery in Staten Island, NY.

Thank You

Henry Schwartz

Von is a German preposition "of" or "from". It is
similar to French "de". If in French surnames it means
belonging to nobel (aristocratic) family, in German it
could either mean nobelty or son of...

Hope it helps.

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv
researcher/translator

I found a Court Inheritance index for Kaunas District Wills 1872-1883 that
lists Abram Itsik FELDMAN, son of Movsha, as the executor of a will for
Shlioma LEYKOVICH (LIKOVICH) d 1879, in the town of Seredzius, Kaunas Uyezd,
Kaunas District. Also listed as an executor is David Itsik EYLBERG, son of
Meyer. There are also three witnesses, all >from different nearby towns.

My questions:

1. How likely is it that Abram Itsik FELDMAN and David Itsik EYLBERG as
executors of the will are related to the decedent Shlimona LEYKOVICH?

2. Is there any significance to the fact that the three witnesses were

from different towns?

I believe Abram Itsik FELDMAN may be a brother of my ggm and wonder if these
other names may be related based on Feldman's being an executor to the will.


Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
Corona, California
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER, ,
HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn,
Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), KAHN/KOHN/COHN/CAHN, FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh,
PA), NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Meimbressen, Germany, Baltimore, MD), BOHORODCZANER
(Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ

Von is a German preposition "of" or "from". It is
similar to French "de". If in French surnames it means
belonging to nobel (aristocratic) family, in German it
could either mean nobelty or son of...

Hope it helps.

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv
researcher/translator

I found a Court Inheritance index for Kaunas District Wills 1872-1883 that
lists Abram Itsik FELDMAN, son of Movsha, as the executor of a will for
Shlioma LEYKOVICH (LIKOVICH) d 1879, in the town of Seredzius, Kaunas Uyezd,
Kaunas District. Also listed as an executor is David Itsik EYLBERG, son of
Meyer. There are also three witnesses, all >from different nearby towns.

My questions:

1. How likely is it that Abram Itsik FELDMAN and David Itsik EYLBERG as
executors of the will are related to the decedent Shlimona LEYKOVICH?

2. Is there any significance to the fact that the three witnesses were

from different towns?

I believe Abram Itsik FELDMAN may be a brother of my ggm and wonder if these
other names may be related based on Feldman's being an executor to the will.


Best Regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272)
Corona, California
FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER, FISZEL (Warszawa& Bedzin, Poland),S(Z)PRINGER, ,
HERSZLIKOWICZ, HAMBURGER (Bedzin, Lagiza, Zarki, Poland), GERSTEN (Obertyn,
Galacia) BARSKA/BARSKY/BARSKIY(Odessa), GOLDBERG (Sokolka?), FELDMAN
(Veliuona,Kaunas), KAHN/KOHN/COHN/CAHN, FRIEDSAM (Bodendorf, Coln? Germany, Pittsburgh,
PA), NEWHAN/NEUHAN/NEUHAHN (Meimbressen, Germany, Baltimore, MD), BOHORODCZANER
(Potok Zloty, Ukraine), LEVINE, ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ

The answer is to Adiva Bloch's question:
"Does this mean I have hit a brick wall? Can I not
find out (especially about Raze and Jankelis) who
their parents were?"

What to do in case of missing birth registration?
The only possibility to find the parents of ancestor
in search is to look the entire family in
Revision/Family lists. Also, if you know his/her
siblings it is worth to try to find their birth
registrations (obviously if birth records for their
years of birth exist).

Archive usually doesn't provide any idea. They make a
search of what a researcher has asked.

Please, contact me privately for further information.

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv - Vilnius
researcher/translator

I doubt that you have reached a brick wall as you did not mention what
resources you have tapped other than the Archives.

In addition, you made the slight error of asking only for birth records from
the Archives. You should have asked for a search of your family name for
the shtetls you mentioned. In that way, the Archives would have searched
for birth, marriage and death records which often give you the information
you require.

However, try looking at http://www.rtrfoundation.org/archdta.html, which is
Miriam Weiner's web site, to see what years are available for records for
the shtetls you are interested in.

In addition, you should look at the All-Lithuania Database to see if your
family names are reflected in the various records contained there.

Have you contacted those listed in the JGFF with your family names? Perhaps
they have the very information you are searching for. In addition, there
are the ShtetLinks for your ancestral shtetls that probably have information
for you.

You neglected to mention where your family came to after they left Lithuania
or where you live now which would help in sorting out what other resources
might be available to you that you haven't tapped into yet.

Never say brick wall!!!!

Good luck!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

I doubt that you have reached a brick wall as you did not mention what
resources you have tapped other than the Archives.

In addition, you made the slight error of asking only for birth records from
the Archives. You should have asked for a search of your family name for
the shtetls you mentioned. In that way, the Archives would have searched
for birth, marriage and death records which often give you the information
you require.

However, try looking at http://www.rtrfoundation.org/archdta.html, which is
Miriam Weiner's web site, to see what years are available for records for
the shtetls you are interested in.

In addition, you should look at the All-Lithuania Database to see if your
family names are reflected in the various records contained there.

Have you contacted those listed in the JGFF with your family names? Perhaps
they have the very information you are searching for. In addition, there
are the ShtetLinks for your ancestral shtetls that probably have information
for you.

You neglected to mention where your family came to after they left Lithuania
or where you live now which would help in sorting out what other resources
might be available to you that you haven't tapped into yet.

Never say brick wall!!!!

Good luck!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

The answer is to Adiva Bloch's question:
"Does this mean I have hit a brick wall? Can I not
find out (especially about Raze and Jankelis) who
their parents were?"

What to do in case of missing birth registration?
The only possibility to find the parents of ancestor
in search is to look the entire family in
Revision/Family lists. Also, if you know his/her
siblings it is worth to try to find their birth
registrations (obviously if birth records for their
years of birth exist).

Archive usually doesn't provide any idea. They make a
search of what a researcher has asked.

Please, contact me privately for further information.

Irene Kudish
Tel-Aviv - Vilnius
researcher/translator

To all SAKIAI (SHAKI/SZAKI) descendants:

The descendents of this shtetl are invited to join a
contributions drive to get the vital records
transcribed.

Any sum you are able to contribute >from $25 and up,
will be gladly accepted to start the ball rolling.

The records are there waiting. They include birth
records for the years 1842-1847, 1857-1864, 1864-1877,
1878-1887, marriage records for 1885-1911 and death
records for the years 1892-1907.

Contributions should be sent to:

LitvakSIG, Inc.
File 50194
Los Angeles, CA 90074-0194

It is advisable to use a Vital Records Indexing
Project donor form which is available either >from Joel
Ratner joelrat1@... or Richard Hoffman,
LitvakSIG Treasurer at
litvaksigmembership@...

Donors contributing at least $100 will receive the
translations of the vital records for Sakiai as Excel
spreadsheets when they are completed.

People who donate less than $100 get to view the
translations via the ALD. However, one can contribute
in stages such that a total of $100 is accumulated
over time. Typically, 2-3 installments accruing to
$100 over a year or two is common and four
installments of $25 over two years has been observed
on other shtetls.

Regards

Angie Elfassi
Sakiai Shtetl Coordinator

To all SAKIAI (SHAKI/SZAKI) descendants:

The descendents of this shtetl are invited to join a
contributions drive to get the vital records
transcribed.

Any sum you are able to contribute >from $25 and up,
will be gladly accepted to start the ball rolling.

The records are there waiting. They include birth
records for the years 1842-1847, 1857-1864, 1864-1877,
1878-1887, marriage records for 1885-1911 and death
records for the years 1892-1907.

Contributions should be sent to:

LitvakSIG, Inc.
File 50194
Los Angeles, CA 90074-0194

It is advisable to use a Vital Records Indexing
Project donor form which is available either >from Joel
Ratner joelrat1@... or Richard Hoffman,
LitvakSIG Treasurer at
litvaksigmembership@...

Donors contributing at least $100 will receive the
translations of the vital records for Sakiai as Excel
spreadsheets when they are completed.

People who donate less than $100 get to view the
translations via the ALD. However, one can contribute
in stages such that a total of $100 is accumulated
over time. Typically, 2-3 installments accruing to
$100 over a year or two is common and four
installments of $25 over two years has been observed
on other shtetls.

Regards

Angie Elfassi
Sakiai Shtetl Coordinator

Professor Esterson wrote:

<< The names Binem, Buna, Bunami, Bunem, Bunma and other similar
names are Yiddish names which were widely used by European Jews as
kinuim for several Hebrew names: Binyamin, Shmueyl, and Simcha in
Poland (and Germany, and some other countries). >>

Let me add one more -- Boim. This is a first name found
in my KONOPIATY family and paired with Simcha, which
led me to make the connection with Bunem and Benjamin
in other records for this individual.

Thanks to JRI-Poland's new search system which enables
a search by given name, I have been able to search for the
first name Boim, and see that it occured mainly in the area
where my family lived (164 results >from Siedlce Gubernia,
72 >from Warszawa Gubernia and 57 >from Lomza Gubernia, as
opposed to only 7 >from Plock, 3 >from Lublin, 2 >from Kielce
and 1 >from Piotrokow.)

Also evident is that in a number of listings, Boim is paired
with Simcha.

Judy Baston
San Francisco, CA

Professor Esterson wrote:

<< The names Binem, Buna, Bunami, Bunem, Bunma and other similar
names are Yiddish names which were widely used by European Jews as
kinuim for several Hebrew names: Binyamin, Shmueyl, and Simcha in
Poland (and Germany, and some other countries). >>

Let me add one more -- Boim. This is a first name found
in my KONOPIATY family and paired with Simcha, which
led me to make the connection with Bunem and Benjamin
in other records for this individual.

Thanks to JRI-Poland's new search system which enables
a search by given name, I have been able to search for the
first name Boim, and see that it occured mainly in the area
where my family lived (164 results >from Siedlce Gubernia,
72 >from Warszawa Gubernia and 57 >from Lomza Gubernia, as
opposed to only 7 >from Plock, 3 >from Lublin, 2 >from Kielce
and 1 >from Piotrokow.)

Also evident is that in a number of listings, Boim is paired
with Simcha.

Judy Baston
San Francisco, CA

I am trying to find the origins of Bonna Hirsch who was born in
Danzig approx. 1775, she died in Denmark in 1855. I have not been
able to find out >from what name "Bonna" is derived. My guess is that
it would have been Bune (or variants).

Has anyone else come across the name Bonna? It is not a usual Danish
or Danish-Yiddish/Hebrew name. I thing that she is the only one with
that name, and it is on her tombstone, so it has not been miswritte/
-typed.

Hopefully yours


Elsebeth Paikin, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/
&
SIG Coordinator and webmaster:
JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/
mailto:elsebeth@...

I am trying to find the origins of Bonna Hirsch who was born in
Danzig approx. 1775, she died in Denmark in 1855. I have not been
able to find out >from what name "Bonna" is derived. My guess is that
it would have been Bune (or variants).

Has anyone else come across the name Bonna? It is not a usual Danish
or Danish-Yiddish/Hebrew name. I thing that she is the only one with
that name, and it is on her tombstone, so it has not been miswritte/
-typed.

Hopefully yours


Elsebeth Paikin, President
Jewish Genealogical Society of Denmark:
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgs-denmark/
&
SIG Coordinator and webmaster:
JewishGen's Scandinavia SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia/
mailto:elsebeth@...

Although the Moderator asked for private responses, I think the
information below will be of interest to other Philadelphia researchers.

In addition to the Philadelphia arrival records available through the
Mid-Eastern Branch of the National Archives, the LDS Family History
Library and a commercial Genealogy website, Philadelphia has other
records related to passengers immigrating >from Europe to the US.

The port cities in the US offered so-called "ethnic" or "immigrant"
banks, conveniently located in Jewish neighborhoods where newly-arrived
immigrants tended to settle. These banks were commercial enterprises
where recent immigrants could save money and arrange to purchase
steamship tickets to bring their families to the US. In Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania, HIAS preserved the original records of four immigrant
banks formerly operating in the city. To our knowledge, no other such
records have survived, either in Philadelphia or in any of the other
port cities.

Two of these ethnic bank sets of records -- Blitzstein Bank and Lipshutz
Bank -- have been indexed by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater
Philadelphia and can be searched >from the JewishGen All USA database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/. For more information about
these collections, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm.

Mark Halpern
President, Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Although the Moderator asked for private responses, I think the
information below will be of interest to other Philadelphia researchers.

In addition to the Philadelphia arrival records available through the
Mid-Eastern Branch of the National Archives, the LDS Family History
Library and a commercial Genealogy website, Philadelphia has other
records related to passengers immigrating >from Europe to the US.

The port cities in the US offered so-called "ethnic" or "immigrant"
banks, conveniently located in Jewish neighborhoods where newly-arrived
immigrants tended to settle. These banks were commercial enterprises
where recent immigrants could save money and arrange to purchase
steamship tickets to bring their families to the US. In Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania, HIAS preserved the original records of four immigrant
banks formerly operating in the city. To our knowledge, no other such
records have survived, either in Philadelphia or in any of the other
port cities.

Two of these ethnic bank sets of records -- Blitzstein Bank and Lipshutz
Bank -- have been indexed by the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater
Philadelphia and can be searched >from the JewishGen All USA database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/. For more information about
these collections, please go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaBlitzstein.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/USA/PhilaLipshutz.htm.

Mark Halpern
President, Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia