I have recently returned >from European trip which included Bulgaria. While
there, we were given handouts with facts and data about the country. One
discussed history of Bulgaria in 20th century. This included a statement
that

"in WWII Bulgaria was on the side of Germany. When Hitler sent orders that
the government should round up all Jews for deportation, the Bulgarian
people and government refused. The head of Bulgarian government said he
would lie down across the tracks himself to prevent a train >from leaving.
Thus the Jews of Bulgaria were saved"

Does anyone know whether this is true or were we just being handed some
propaganda?

Stan Golembe
Searching for: GALEMBA, GOLEMBE, GALEMBE, (variants of spelling),
Lyachovichi, Lachwa, Lubeshov, Nobel, Pinsk

I have recently returned >from European trip which included Bulgaria. While
there, we were given handouts with facts and data about the country. One
discussed history of Bulgaria in 20th century. This included a statement
that

"in WWII Bulgaria was on the side of Germany. When Hitler sent orders that
the government should round up all Jews for deportation, the Bulgarian
people and government refused. The head of Bulgarian government said he
would lie down across the tracks himself to prevent a train >from leaving.
Thus the Jews of Bulgaria were saved"

Does anyone know whether this is true or were we just being handed some
propaganda?

Stan Golembe
Searching for: GALEMBA, GOLEMBE, GALEMBE, (variants of spelling),
Lyachovichi, Lachwa, Lubeshov, Nobel, Pinsk

Dear members
I found the name Francesco Oliviero Grunwald, b 18 02 1883 in
Vienna/Austria, son of Gruenwald Leopold and Zerkowitz Sidonie on the
YadVashem list, transport >from Triest to Auschwitz on 16 05 1944
As far as I know he was correspondent in Milano. Where can I get
information, he was married, children or anything else

Traude Triebel
A-2700 Wiener Neustadt
Email: traude.triebel@...
Web: http://www.reumann.biz

Dear members
I found the name Francesco Oliviero Grunwald, b 18 02 1883 in
Vienna/Austria, son of Gruenwald Leopold and Zerkowitz Sidonie on the
YadVashem list, transport >from Triest to Auschwitz on 16 05 1944
As far as I know he was correspondent in Milano. Where can I get
information, he was married, children or anything else

Traude Triebel
A-2700 Wiener Neustadt
Email: traude.triebel@...
Web: http://www.reumann.biz

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 03:09:10 UTC, gary@... (Gary Luke)
opined:

I would like advice about any genealogy programmes to suit a specific
research purpose. Instead of researching the links within a family tree I
want to research connections across a community where most are not related
as family. There are relationships in business ventures, in living for a
period in the same neighborhood, as conflicting parties in court cases, in
arriving on the same ship, and a few are indirectly related by cousin
marrying an uncle or similar. For quite a few in the community there are
multiple types of relationships.

I have been using Generations for a number of years. It is possible to map
and report these types of relationships by using a single source reference
for the two or more in a connection, but it's a bit limited for the
necessary analysis because these reports would only show a single type of
relationship on each report.

It might need a complex relational database. Maybe it's beyond the scope of
genealogy programmes.

Thanks for any hints?

Gary
__
Gary Luke ~ gary@...
Sydney, Australia

Gary's goals are so different >from those contemplated by available
genealogy software, and so wide, that a specifically
genealogically-oriented program would find a miniscule market (if
any), so that a programmer would have little incentive to make one.

On the other hand, Gary has answered his own question: a good, general
purpose relational database manager would, once he sets it up as he
wants it, offer him unlimited flexibility. Because it is open-source
freeware, and NOT a commercial program, I hope I may suggest MySQL
(the most widely used database program), which is available for most
operating systems; Google knows where to find it for his platform..

And if this solution seems too demanding, a spreadsheet program could
be employed to manage all the information he wants to manage, say with
a column (or a group of columns) for each of the kinds of relationship
he wants to define. He probably already has a spreadsheet program, but
they are easy to find. The Open Office suite (which is also freeware,
NOT commercial) has a good one, in addition to all the other
components of an office suite. Unlike the better known, and expensive
(office suite), it isn't a security timebomb.

MODERATOR NOTE: Discussion of genealogy programs is beyond the scope of
this list. A more appropriate place to discuss these issues is:
soc.genealogy.computing news group.
Please reply privately to Gary about genealogy programs. General advice
(not mentioning commercial programs) will be considered for posting.
Gary is urged to post a summary of the advice he got.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form

there.

These databases are searchable but are they browsable? for example, can
one pull up the Kisvarda list in its entirety to peruse? I haven't
succeeded so far!

These databases are searchable but are they browsable? for example, can
one pull up the Kisvarda list in its entirety to peruse? I haven't
succeeded so far!

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 03:09:10 UTC, gary@... (Gary Luke)
opined:

I would like advice about any genealogy programmes to suit a specific
research purpose. Instead of researching the links within a family tree I
want to research connections across a community where most are not related
as family. There are relationships in business ventures, in living for a
period in the same neighborhood, as conflicting parties in court cases, in
arriving on the same ship, and a few are indirectly related by cousin
marrying an uncle or similar. For quite a few in the community there are
multiple types of relationships.

I have been using Generations for a number of years. It is possible to map
and report these types of relationships by using a single source reference
for the two or more in a connection, but it's a bit limited for the
necessary analysis because these reports would only show a single type of
relationship on each report.

It might need a complex relational database. Maybe it's beyond the scope of
genealogy programmes.

Thanks for any hints?

Gary
__
Gary Luke ~ gary@...
Sydney, Australia

Gary's goals are so different >from those contemplated by available
genealogy software, and so wide, that a specifically
genealogically-oriented program would find a miniscule market (if
any), so that a programmer would have little incentive to make one.

On the other hand, Gary has answered his own question: a good, general
purpose relational database manager would, once he sets it up as he
wants it, offer him unlimited flexibility. Because it is open-source
freeware, and NOT a commercial program, I hope I may suggest MySQL
(the most widely used database program), which is available for most
operating systems; Google knows where to find it for his platform..

And if this solution seems too demanding, a spreadsheet program could
be employed to manage all the information he wants to manage, say with
a column (or a group of columns) for each of the kinds of relationship
he wants to define. He probably already has a spreadsheet program, but
they are easy to find. The Open Office suite (which is also freeware,
NOT commercial) has a good one, in addition to all the other
components of an office suite. Unlike the better known, and expensive
(office suite), it isn't a security timebomb.

MODERATOR NOTE: Discussion of genealogy programs is beyond the scope of
this list. A more appropriate place to discuss these issues is:
soc.genealogy.computing news group.
Please reply privately to Gary about genealogy programs. General advice
(not mentioning commercial programs) will be considered for posting.
Gary is urged to post a summary of the advice he got.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form

there.

Greetings,

I am doing some research into my family history. I have been told that
my family was Jewish, and converted to be Catholics in the late 1800's
early 1900's. All I really know is that my family settled in the Erie,
PA area. Any information would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,
Norman T. Eisengart
Chicago, Illinois

Greetings,

I am doing some research into my family history. I have been told that
my family was Jewish, and converted to be Catholics in the late 1800's
early 1900's. All I really know is that my family settled in the Erie,
PA area. Any information would be gladly accepted.

Thanks,
Norman T. Eisengart
Chicago, Illinois

HI to all of you

My aunt Cecilia Varacha was >from Vienna.

She was born 214.1899 and was sent on the 9.10.1944

from ghetto Terezin to Auschwitz. If some one of you

knew her or met her during the war please contact me

Shana Tova

Arieh Mayer
Haifa Israel

I have been asked by Warren Blatt to post the following important
message on his behalf regarding new databases.

JewishGen is pleased to announce the addition of 37,000 new records
to the JewishGen Holocaust Database <
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust >.

There are 13 new datasets, and two updated datasets. The 13 new datasets are:

* "Lodz Transports to the Chelmno Extermination Camp":
Names of 7,168 individuals >from Lodz who were transferred to the
death camp at Chelmno, June-August 1944.

* "Gyor Victims at Auschwitz":
Names of over 3,000 victims >from Gyor, Hungary, deported to
Auschwitz, made by a Jewish communal organization.

* "Jewish Physicians >from Czechoslovakia":
Names of 1,668 Czechoslovakian physicians who died during the
Holocaust, >from an unpublished yizkor book manuscript.

* "Hannover-Ahlem Prisoners":
Names of 257 prisoners, mostly Polish Jews, who perished in a subcamp
of Neuengamme, located in Ahlem/Hannover.

* "Jews of Des (Dej) in the Ghettoization of May, 1944":
List of 3,250 Jewish residents in Des, Hungary (now Dej, Romania),
just prior to their deportation, May 3-10, 1944.

* "Kisvarda, Hungary - Records Before Deportation, 1944":
3,516 residents >from Kisvarda (Kleinwardein), Hungary ghetto prior to
their deportation, April 10-13, 1944.

* "Jews >from Iasi (Jassy) Who Survived the Transports":
List of over 1,600 Jews who survived two transports by train >from
Iasi (Jassy) Romania.

* "Kozienice Ghetto Census (Lista), 1939 - 1942":
4,023 inhabitants >from the census of Jews in the Kozienice ghetto,
made by the Jewish Council of Kozienice.

* "Holocaust Survivors Claiming American Citizenship":
Applications of 621 individuals claiming American citizenship,
processed in Zurich by the U.S. State Department.

* "Subotica Jews, Victims of the Fascist Occupation, 1941-45":
1,993 names of victims >from Subotica, now in Serbia (formerly
Szabadka, Hungary, before WWI).

* "Balta Ghetto":
2,817 Jews >from the Balta Ghetto, Transnistria, as of 1941.

* "Balta Orphans":
List of 220 orphaned children in the Balta Ghetto.

* "Balta Batallion":
List of 507 Jewish men in Batallion 120 - Romanian forced laborers in
Transnitria, 1941-1944.


We've also updated the following two datasets:

* Dachau Indexing Project:
Over 7,000 records added, for a total of over 135,000 records.

* North Bavarian Jews:
1,200 records added; now over 7,400 records total.


Thanks to all the volunteers who have made these possible, especially
project coordinators Nolan Altman and Mike Kalt.


The JewishGen Holocaust Database is a collection of nearly 100
different datasets, containing over one million entries about
Holocaust victims and survivors.

This database can be searched at <
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
<wblatt@...>

I have been asked by Warren Blatt to post the following important
message on his behalf regarding new databases.

JewishGen is pleased to announce the addition of 37,000 new records
to the JewishGen Holocaust Database <
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust >.

There are 13 new datasets, and two updated datasets. The 13 new datasets are:

* "Lodz Transports to the Chelmno Extermination Camp":
Names of 7,168 individuals >from Lodz who were transferred to the
death camp at Chelmno, June-August 1944.

* "Gyor Victims at Auschwitz":
Names of over 3,000 victims >from Gyor, Hungary, deported to
Auschwitz, made by a Jewish communal organization.

* "Jewish Physicians >from Czechoslovakia":
Names of 1,668 Czechoslovakian physicians who died during the
Holocaust, >from an unpublished yizkor book manuscript.

* "Hannover-Ahlem Prisoners":
Names of 257 prisoners, mostly Polish Jews, who perished in a subcamp
of Neuengamme, located in Ahlem/Hannover.

* "Jews of Des (Dej) in the Ghettoization of May, 1944":
List of 3,250 Jewish residents in Des, Hungary (now Dej, Romania),
just prior to their deportation, May 3-10, 1944.

* "Kisvarda, Hungary - Records Before Deportation, 1944":
3,516 residents >from Kisvarda (Kleinwardein), Hungary ghetto prior to
their deportation, April 10-13, 1944.

* "Jews >from Iasi (Jassy) Who Survived the Transports":
List of over 1,600 Jews who survived two transports by train >from
Iasi (Jassy) Romania.

* "Kozienice Ghetto Census (Lista), 1939 - 1942":
4,023 inhabitants >from the census of Jews in the Kozienice ghetto,
made by the Jewish Council of Kozienice.

* "Holocaust Survivors Claiming American Citizenship":
Applications of 621 individuals claiming American citizenship,
processed in Zurich by the U.S. State Department.

* "Subotica Jews, Victims of the Fascist Occupation, 1941-45":
1,993 names of victims >from Subotica, now in Serbia (formerly
Szabadka, Hungary, before WWI).

* "Balta Ghetto":
2,817 Jews >from the Balta Ghetto, Transnistria, as of 1941.

* "Balta Orphans":
List of 220 orphaned children in the Balta Ghetto.

* "Balta Batallion":
List of 507 Jewish men in Batallion 120 - Romanian forced laborers in
Transnitria, 1941-1944.


We've also updated the following two datasets:

* Dachau Indexing Project:
Over 7,000 records added, for a total of over 135,000 records.

* North Bavarian Jews:
1,200 records added; now over 7,400 records total.


Thanks to all the volunteers who have made these possible, especially
project coordinators Nolan Altman and Mike Kalt.


The JewishGen Holocaust Database is a collection of nearly 100
different datasets, containing over one million entries about
Holocaust victims and survivors.

This database can be searched at <
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
<wblatt@...>

HI to all of you

My aunt Cecilia Varacha was >from Vienna.

She was born 214.1899 and was sent on the 9.10.1944

from ghetto Terezin to Auschwitz. If some one of you

knew her or met her during the war please contact me

Shana Tova

Arieh Mayer
Haifa Israel

For JewishGenners interested in asking (or answering) questions about the
scheduled IAJGS Conference to be held in New York City in August 2006,
JewishGen is providing a conference mailing list.

To subscribe please visit http://lyris.jewishgen.org/Listmanager It is
no longer possible to subscribe to JewishGen mailing lists via e-mail. If
you need help write to support@... stating the specific problem
and someone at that desk will try to assist you.

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To subscribe please visit http://lyris.jewishgen.org/Listmanager It is
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I hope the Kindly Moderator will indulge me putting in my two
penn'orth on this subject as I've only just caught up with my e-mails!

My great-grandmother Sara ADLER came >from a quite prosperous
Tarnopol family, but when she married great-grandfather Sussman
LEWINSTEIN in about 1878 she moved to live with him in Berdichev,
which was not only some distance away but in a different country
(Russian Empire). This has always puzzled me as it seems a reverse
of the the rational move. Their first son Mark was born there in 1879,
but they seem to have moved back to Galicia by 1888 when
the next child, Annie, was born.

They then came to London, England in 1893, where they settled.
Naomi Fatouros makes the excellent (as usual!) point that
<<If the young man wanted to be a Torah scholar.....it was probable that
he would go to live with his bride's family household where he could be
supported by his bride's parents for a number of years.>>
My great-grandfather had a number of jobs in his life, but my grandmother
(his daughter Sophie) always said he was "a student".
I think she meant by that a rabbinical student.

A further point I should like to make is that even as recently as the 1950s
it was common for young Jewish men to look to their fiancee's parents
for a dowry. This might well be tied to moving to the bride's town.
Judith, I should be most interested in seeing Prof.Ken Walzer's research.

Happy 5766 to you all,
Good luck in your research,

Ric Cooper
Gosport, UK
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH and GODZINSKIJ >from Warsaw
LEZTER, RINENBERG & SALENDER >from Rzeszow
MILLET, PITERZEIL & BLUMENKAHL >from Dabrowa Tarnowska
ADLER & FINKELSTEIN >from Ternopol
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNIKOW >from Odessa

I hope the Kindly Moderator will indulge me putting in my two
penn'orth on this subject as I've only just caught up with my e-mails!

My great-grandmother Sara ADLER came >from a quite prosperous
Tarnopol family, but when she married great-grandfather Sussman
LEWINSTEIN in about 1878 she moved to live with him in Berdichev,
which was not only some distance away but in a different country
(Russian Empire). This has always puzzled me as it seems a reverse
of the the rational move. Their first son Mark was born there in 1879,
but they seem to have moved back to Galicia by 1888 when
the next child, Annie, was born.

They then came to London, England in 1893, where they settled.
Naomi Fatouros makes the excellent (as usual!) point that
<<If the young man wanted to be a Torah scholar.....it was probable that
he would go to live with his bride's family household where he could be
supported by his bride's parents for a number of years.>>
My great-grandfather had a number of jobs in his life, but my grandmother
(his daughter Sophie) always said he was "a student".
I think she meant by that a rabbinical student.

A further point I should like to make is that even as recently as the 1950s
it was common for young Jewish men to look to their fiancee's parents
for a dowry. This might well be tied to moving to the bride's town.
Judith, I should be most interested in seeing Prof.Ken Walzer's research.

Happy 5766 to you all,
Good luck in your research,

Ric Cooper
Gosport, UK
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH and GODZINSKIJ >from Warsaw
LEZTER, RINENBERG & SALENDER >from Rzeszow
MILLET, PITERZEIL & BLUMENKAHL >from Dabrowa Tarnowska
ADLER & FINKELSTEIN >from Ternopol
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNIKOW >from Odessa

Last week I wrote about the fascinating mid-1800s
travel diary of S.E. ROSENBAUM of Goltsch Jenikau,
Caslauer Kreis. We know his father was E. ROSENBAUM
and >from the evidence below, I suspect it was Emanuel,
born after the 1793 census to Samuel in Goltsch
Jenikau.

I would like to thank Dave Bernard who went to the
trouble of looking up our diarist in the U.S.
censuses.

We now have a much clearer picture of this early
Bohemian immigrant and his descendants: he appears as
Samuel, so is most probably the grandson of Samuel
[Handelsmann] listed in the 1793 census of Bohemia.
Dave comments [and I have his permission to quote]
that many, many US census dates are wrong. Samuel is
listed as 48, 56? and 74 in the 1870, 1880 and 1900
censuses. His wife Johanna is 34 in 1870 and 42 in
1880. If you look at the census in detail you find
that Samuel married Johanna >from Hamburg probably in
1850-1852. We know that he had arrived in NY in 1847.
He was still living in NY in 1870 and was a drawing
teacher. He had produced seven children by then:
Emanuel 17; Henry 14; Isaac 11; Morris 8; Sophia 5;
Eva 3 & Hermann 9 months.

By 1880, Emanuel had left home and Isaac was working
in *cigars* and a new daughter Paulene aged 8 had
appeared. Samuel is designated as *artist*. Johanna is
listed as having been born in Hanover. I wonder if
Samuel met Johanna on the boat over >from Germany? He
does indeed mention, in rather endearing terms, his
friend *Hannah* on the boat. Samuel's strong views on
the Polish Jews on board, would today be classed as
"racist"! He, as a Bohemian Jew, had little in common
with them. They appeared to be totally alien.

In 1900 Samuel, by now a widower, and designated
*painter art* is living with his married daughter
Sophie in Allentown, Pa. [as the diary stated]. Her
married name is ZELDENRUST; if you look at the city
directory you will find the ZELDENRUST family of
Allentown listed in 1899 and presumably that is where
the diary resided till Samuel's death: see p. 505

http://tinyurl.com/a4vsl

Sophie's husband Henry ZELDENRUST was born in NY but
his parents were "Belgian". Their three children are
named Diane, Eveline and Harold.

Delving into the ZELDENRUST family in the 1880 census
reveals more interesting facts; Henry's mother, Dena
{a widow}, was born in Alsace [her mother's home] but
her father [born 1810] came >from Holland. He is living
with them in NY and is listed in the census as Jacob
Nanprague. This is a mistranscription for VAN PRAGUE -
a 6-year old Jewish boy Emanuel VAN PRAGUE from
Holland can be seen in the 1891 census of England and
Wales. In other US censuses, Jacob can clearly be seen
as VAN PRAGUE. All the ZELDENRUST children, including
little Rosa aged 9, were born in Alsace so they are
recent immigrants [ie after 1871]. Furthermore you can
see an interesting Dutch-Jewish family tree with
Belgian ZELDENRUST listed on it:

http://home.planet.nl/~bobbe000/verveer.htm

In the Austria-Czech message archives you will find
that our members Wolf-Erich Eckstein [Vienna] and
Peter Lowe [UK] are linked to ROSENBAUM of Goltsch
Jenikau and so is Rob Lederer [NYC] who searched for
data on this family in 1999. I tried to contact him
but his email bounced. Does anyone know him?

Furthermore, Bernie Weill of Brooklyn, NY is also
linked to Samuel's sojourn with the WEIL family in
Strakonice as is Paul King [Jerusalem]. It is rare to
find someone serendipitously, with so many links to
members of our SIG, yet we have not yet heard >from any
direct descendants. Judging by the eight children
Samuel bore, there should be many descendants in the
US today who could trace their ancestry back to
Goltsch Jenikau in the 1700s, if they were interested
to do so.
Hopefully, at least one, is a member of our SIG.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Zeldenrust in the US censuses and local directories:

1. In 1910, Henry Zeldenrust and wife and 3 children
are still in Allentown. Samuel Rosenbaum is not living
with them. He must have died between 1902 and 1910.

2. In 1920, Henry Zeldenrust and wife [nee Sopie
ROSENBAUM] and daughter Evelyn are in Binghamton, NY.
He is a now a "Superintendant cigar factory". Samuel
Rosenbaum's son Isaac worked in "cigars" in 1880, when
he was 20 in NY - so did Henry ZELDENRUST, also aged
20. Could this link between the two boys, have
resulted in the marriage of Sophie to Henry?

3. The 1861 and 1863 Manhattan Directories show Morris
Zeldenrust, segars (sic) [Cigars] at 131 Canal St.

4. The 1881 directory lists Zeldentrust (sic), Dinah
wid. Morris h. 1036 Second Ave, (NYC)

5. Henry Zeldenrust's father's birthplace is listed as
Belgium in the 1900 census - elsewhere it is Holland.

6. You can see an *S van Prague* on the ship, Sylph
sailing >from Panama to California in 1849:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~npmelton/argosea8.htm

Last week I wrote about the fascinating mid-1800s
travel diary of S.E. ROSENBAUM of Goltsch Jenikau,
Caslauer Kreis. We know his father was E. ROSENBAUM
and >from the evidence below, I suspect it was Emanuel,
born after the 1793 census to Samuel in Goltsch
Jenikau.

I would like to thank Dave Bernard who went to the
trouble of looking up our diarist in the U.S.
censuses.

We now have a much clearer picture of this early
Bohemian immigrant and his descendants: he appears as
Samuel, so is most probably the grandson of Samuel
[Handelsmann] listed in the 1793 census of Bohemia.
Dave comments [and I have his permission to quote]
that many, many US census dates are wrong. Samuel is
listed as 48, 56? and 74 in the 1870, 1880 and 1900
censuses. His wife Johanna is 34 in 1870 and 42 in
1880. If you look at the census in detail you find
that Samuel married Johanna >from Hamburg probably in
1850-1852. We know that he had arrived in NY in 1847.
He was still living in NY in 1870 and was a drawing
teacher. He had produced seven children by then:
Emanuel 17; Henry 14; Isaac 11; Morris 8; Sophia 5;
Eva 3 & Hermann 9 months.

By 1880, Emanuel had left home and Isaac was working
in *cigars* and a new daughter Paulene aged 8 had
appeared. Samuel is designated as *artist*. Johanna is
listed as having been born in Hanover. I wonder if
Samuel met Johanna on the boat over >from Germany? He
does indeed mention, in rather endearing terms, his
friend *Hannah* on the boat. Samuel's strong views on
the Polish Jews on board, would today be classed as
"racist"! He, as a Bohemian Jew, had little in common
with them. They appeared to be totally alien.

In 1900 Samuel, by now a widower, and designated
*painter art* is living with his married daughter
Sophie in Allentown, Pa. [as the diary stated]. Her
married name is ZELDENRUST; if you look at the city
directory you will find the ZELDENRUST family of
Allentown listed in 1899 and presumably that is where
the diary resided till Samuel's death: see p. 505

http://tinyurl.com/a4vsl

Sophie's husband Henry ZELDENRUST was born in NY but
his parents were "Belgian". Their three children are
named Diane, Eveline and Harold.

Delving into the ZELDENRUST family in the 1880 census
reveals more interesting facts; Henry's mother, Dena
{a widow}, was born in Alsace [her mother's home] but
her father [born 1810] came >from Holland. He is living
with them in NY and is listed in the census as Jacob
Nanprague. This is a mistranscription for VAN PRAGUE -
a 6-year old Jewish boy Emanuel VAN PRAGUE from
Holland can be seen in the 1891 census of England and
Wales. In other US censuses, Jacob can clearly be seen
as VAN PRAGUE. All the ZELDENRUST children, including
little Rosa aged 9, were born in Alsace so they are
recent immigrants [ie after 1871]. Furthermore you can
see an interesting Dutch-Jewish family tree with
Belgian ZELDENRUST listed on it:

http://home.planet.nl/~bobbe000/verveer.htm

In the Austria-Czech message archives you will find
that our members Wolf-Erich Eckstein [Vienna] and
Peter Lowe [UK] are linked to ROSENBAUM of Goltsch
Jenikau and so is Rob Lederer [NYC] who searched for
data on this family in 1999. I tried to contact him
but his email bounced. Does anyone know him?

Furthermore, Bernie Weill of Brooklyn, NY is also
linked to Samuel's sojourn with the WEIL family in
Strakonice as is Paul King [Jerusalem]. It is rare to
find someone serendipitously, with so many links to
members of our SIG, yet we have not yet heard >from any
direct descendants. Judging by the eight children
Samuel bore, there should be many descendants in the
US today who could trace their ancestry back to
Goltsch Jenikau in the 1700s, if they were interested
to do so.
Hopefully, at least one, is a member of our SIG.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Zeldenrust in the US censuses and local directories:

1. In 1910, Henry Zeldenrust and wife and 3 children
are still in Allentown. Samuel Rosenbaum is not living
with them. He must have died between 1902 and 1910.

2. In 1920, Henry Zeldenrust and wife [nee Sopie
ROSENBAUM] and daughter Evelyn are in Binghamton, NY.
He is a now a "Superintendant cigar factory". Samuel
Rosenbaum's son Isaac worked in "cigars" in 1880, when
he was 20 in NY - so did Henry ZELDENRUST, also aged
20. Could this link between the two boys, have
resulted in the marriage of Sophie to Henry?

3. The 1861 and 1863 Manhattan Directories show Morris
Zeldenrust, segars (sic) [Cigars] at 131 Canal St.

4. The 1881 directory lists Zeldentrust (sic), Dinah
wid. Morris h. 1036 Second Ave, (NYC)

5. Henry Zeldenrust's father's birthplace is listed as
Belgium in the 1900 census - elsewhere it is Holland.

6. You can see an *S van Prague* on the ship, Sylph
sailing >from Panama to California in 1849:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~npmelton/argosea8.htm