Re: Lack of Common Courtesy
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Debbie Raff
I, too, had a mailing experience where I never heard >from the person, again.
In my case I acquired a book through a non-Jewish friend, which had an entire family tree in it. It was quite an amazing one going back to the early 1700s, I believe. Through the JewishGen Family Finder I located a family member. I found out that a limited number of these books had been published and this person had a copy. I was given names of those who didn't have one. I ended up communicating with one of the people, who was thrilled I would sent it to him in Israel. That is the end of my story. I spent a goodly sum of money to send the book and never heard back. My hope is that it arrived safely, which was the goal in the first place. It would have been nice to have been thanked or an offer of reimbursement given (I would have declined). I get that good feeling by following through and don't worry too much about whether someone does the right thing. On the other hand, I recently asked a question on our group about a first name. I did not count the private responses that I received, but 30 would be a conservative estimate. I made certain to respond to each and every one, and did not form a generic response. Also, I wrote a thank you on the group just in case I missed someone. I do try to access whether I should post a question or a photo to translate now, as there are so many helpful people out there, I find the aftermath to be overwhelming. This topic of courtesy seems to come up a couple of times a year. As for my take on it, if you have knowledge that would be helpful and feel someone can benefit >from it, but choose not to share due to the lack of a "Thank You" from someone else earlier, shame on you.Don't let the discourteous folks out there make you discourteous, also. Being able to help others is a positive thing both mentally and physically, I believe, and to allow someone, who has not done the right thing to control what you do is not the solution. Thanks to all who have helped me over the years -just in case my "Thank You" didn't make it to your email box. Take care, Debbie Raff California HERBACH / BIRNBAUM / BIRENBAUM/ SCHNEIER (Nowy Sacz, Pol and Lipany,Slovakia) RAFF / SICHERMAN / MEISNER/ KATZ / FISCH / ZWICK / HILLER (Zmigrod Nowy / Bukowsko / Dukla / Dynow / Korczyna, Pol) ) KORNFELD / LAWNER / GERMAN / JURMAN / WEITMAN (Husiatyn, Usjad, Woloczysk, Ukr)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lack of Common Courtesy
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Debbie Raff
I, too, had a mailing experience where I never heard >from the person, again.
In my case I acquired a book through a non-Jewish friend, which had an entire family tree in it. It was quite an amazing one going back to the early 1700s, I believe. Through the JewishGen Family Finder I located a family member. I found out that a limited number of these books had been published and this person had a copy. I was given names of those who didn't have one. I ended up communicating with one of the people, who was thrilled I would sent it to him in Israel. That is the end of my story. I spent a goodly sum of money to send the book and never heard back. My hope is that it arrived safely, which was the goal in the first place. It would have been nice to have been thanked or an offer of reimbursement given (I would have declined). I get that good feeling by following through and don't worry too much about whether someone does the right thing. On the other hand, I recently asked a question on our group about a first name. I did not count the private responses that I received, but 30 would be a conservative estimate. I made certain to respond to each and every one, and did not form a generic response. Also, I wrote a thank you on the group just in case I missed someone. I do try to access whether I should post a question or a photo to translate now, as there are so many helpful people out there, I find the aftermath to be overwhelming. This topic of courtesy seems to come up a couple of times a year. As for my take on it, if you have knowledge that would be helpful and feel someone can benefit >from it, but choose not to share due to the lack of a "Thank You" from someone else earlier, shame on you.Don't let the discourteous folks out there make you discourteous, also. Being able to help others is a positive thing both mentally and physically, I believe, and to allow someone, who has not done the right thing to control what you do is not the solution. Thanks to all who have helped me over the years -just in case my "Thank You" didn't make it to your email box. Take care, Debbie Raff California HERBACH / BIRNBAUM / BIRENBAUM/ SCHNEIER (Nowy Sacz, Pol and Lipany,Slovakia) RAFF / SICHERMAN / MEISNER/ KATZ / FISCH / ZWICK / HILLER (Zmigrod Nowy / Bukowsko / Dukla / Dynow / Korczyna, Pol) ) KORNFELD / LAWNER / GERMAN / JURMAN / WEITMAN (Husiatyn, Usjad, Woloczysk, Ukr)
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Re: Website : Austro-Hungarian Military Records
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Beverly Shulster <gettingbttr@...>
AGloger@... wrote:
<snip> Austro-Hungarian Land Forces 1848-1918. The URL is:Seems to me this should be posted to Galicia and Hungarian SIGs too. Lots of Galician and Hungarian Jews served Austria in WWone. Beverly Shulster Yehud, Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Website : Austro-Hungarian Military Records
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Beverly Shulster <gettingbttr@...>
AGloger@... wrote:
<snip> Austro-Hungarian Land Forces 1848-1918. The URL is:Seems to me this should be posted to Galicia and Hungarian SIGs too. Lots of Galician and Hungarian Jews served Austria in WWone. Beverly Shulster Yehud, Israel
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Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
I would like to add my opinion to this. I often write privately to help
people and usually get a response, either a thank you or some other question or comment. But I don't keep track of who I write to, as I don't do it to get something back. I was taught when a child to always write a Thank You note to anyone giving a present, but I found out over the years that everyone does not do this, and I don't expect everyone to have the same manners. The same way I don't give a present to 'get' something. If somebody is a friend and I give the person a present, I don't keep track of it and of what that person gives me as presents-that is not the point, what you get is friendship. Sally Bruckheimer Chatham, NJ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
I would like to add my opinion to this. I often write privately to help
people and usually get a response, either a thank you or some other question or comment. But I don't keep track of who I write to, as I don't do it to get something back. I was taught when a child to always write a Thank You note to anyone giving a present, but I found out over the years that everyone does not do this, and I don't expect everyone to have the same manners. The same way I don't give a present to 'get' something. If somebody is a friend and I give the person a present, I don't keep track of it and of what that person gives me as presents-that is not the point, what you get is friendship. Sally Bruckheimer Chatham, NJ
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Which cemetery - New York?
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Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
Dear Genners,
I am 'stuck' - advice please. For several years I have been searching for the burial place of one Isidor WOLF originally >from Russia/Poland (depends on which census you look at). In the 1920 census Isidor is living at East 114th St, NY - it is known he died before 1935. He is not listed in the 1930 census. I have checked the New York death certificates on the web, however the 2 Isidor possibilities have been ruled out after viewing the certificates. A relative remembers that Isidor died in St. Johns Hospital, Queens. I contacted the Hospital who informed me that records are not kept for more than 10 years, thus there would be nothing anywhere for the period I am looking in. Has anyone ever had experience with this hospital regarding old records? Isidor's sister is buried in Washington Cemetery but Isidor is not - any idea of a particular cemetery that would encompass the hospital, 114th St and Washington cemetery? I have noted all the cemeteries in the New York area on Jewishgen cemetery site, however I cannot possibly call each and every one. Any ideas how to proceed would be most gratefully appreciated. Thank you. Patricia Wilson (Israel)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Which cemetery - New York?
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Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
Dear Genners,
I am 'stuck' - advice please. For several years I have been searching for the burial place of one Isidor WOLF originally >from Russia/Poland (depends on which census you look at). In the 1920 census Isidor is living at East 114th St, NY - it is known he died before 1935. He is not listed in the 1930 census. I have checked the New York death certificates on the web, however the 2 Isidor possibilities have been ruled out after viewing the certificates. A relative remembers that Isidor died in St. Johns Hospital, Queens. I contacted the Hospital who informed me that records are not kept for more than 10 years, thus there would be nothing anywhere for the period I am looking in. Has anyone ever had experience with this hospital regarding old records? Isidor's sister is buried in Washington Cemetery but Isidor is not - any idea of a particular cemetery that would encompass the hospital, 114th St and Washington cemetery? I have noted all the cemeteries in the New York area on Jewishgen cemetery site, however I cannot possibly call each and every one. Any ideas how to proceed would be most gratefully appreciated. Thank you. Patricia Wilson (Israel)
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GRODSKY / GROTSKY - Russia/Poland New York
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Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
Good morning,
I am updating a previous posting regarding family GRODSKY/GRODSKI/GROTSKY and derivations of:- Having just received information >from a death certificate 1913 I would ask if the following names are within your family tree. Charles GRODSKY born approx 1867 – butcher – arrived in the US in the late 1890’s. He was married to Bella (nee Wolf). Charles died age 45 in 1913, in Kings County. His parents names are given as Siskind GROTESKY and Sarah POCK. Russia/Poland is given on various documents. Charles and Bella who died in 1915, had 7 children, Sarah, Fanny, Edward, Rebecca, William, Esther and Herman.- address in 1910 census Ludlow St., Manhattan. NY After the sudden demise of both parents the children were raised by Bella’s brother Isidor Wolf, a bachelor, who moved into the family home. I am trying to connect with the Wolf family and perhaps by finding a GRODSKY who had connections with the above family I can go forward with my research. If I knew the town >from which the above GRODSKY family originated >from then things might start to move. Charles I very much doubt was an only child so perhaps his siblings went to the US too. If you can help in any way please contact me. I thank you for your time. Patricia Wilson (Israel) Searching WOLF - Chicago.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GRODSKY / GROTSKY - Russia/Poland New York
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Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
Good morning,
I am updating a previous posting regarding family GRODSKY/GRODSKI/GROTSKY and derivations of:- Having just received information >from a death certificate 1913 I would ask if the following names are within your family tree. Charles GRODSKY born approx 1867 – butcher – arrived in the US in the late 1890’s. He was married to Bella (nee Wolf). Charles died age 45 in 1913, in Kings County. His parents names are given as Siskind GROTESKY and Sarah POCK. Russia/Poland is given on various documents. Charles and Bella who died in 1915, had 7 children, Sarah, Fanny, Edward, Rebecca, William, Esther and Herman.- address in 1910 census Ludlow St., Manhattan. NY After the sudden demise of both parents the children were raised by Bella’s brother Isidor Wolf, a bachelor, who moved into the family home. I am trying to connect with the Wolf family and perhaps by finding a GRODSKY who had connections with the above family I can go forward with my research. If I knew the town >from which the above GRODSKY family originated >from then things might start to move. Charles I very much doubt was an only child so perhaps his siblings went to the US too. If you can help in any way please contact me. I thank you for your time. Patricia Wilson (Israel) Searching WOLF - Chicago.
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Barbados Jewish Records
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Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
For cemetery or burial records for your family on Barbados, you might visit
the following web site which is generated by Mary Gleadall who is most helpful: www.tombstones.bb. You can contact Mary for more specific information on your particular family as she has provided an on-line form for information requests. There are 11,484 tombstone and 892 burial entries in the database. The web site includes both Jewish and non-Jewish information and contains records >from not only Barbados, but the Carribean and Antigua. Good luck, Ann Rabinowitz annrab@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barbados Jewish Records
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Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
For cemetery or burial records for your family on Barbados, you might visit
the following web site which is generated by Mary Gleadall who is most helpful: www.tombstones.bb. You can contact Mary for more specific information on your particular family as she has provided an on-line form for information requests. There are 11,484 tombstone and 892 burial entries in the database. The web site includes both Jewish and non-Jewish information and contains records >from not only Barbados, but the Carribean and Antigua. Good luck, Ann Rabinowitz annrab@...
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Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum
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Nachum Tuchman
Hi,
I would also like to add my 2 cents. I don't recall a single incident that I did not get a reply to any e-mail that I sent privately to this or any of the other SIG's that I belong to on JewishGen. I usually answer privately, unless if there is a reason that the answer may be of use to other genners. I have also tried to answer everyone who replied to an e-mail of mine, and I hope that I have never forgotten anyone. May I take this opportunity to thank everyone for being you. We all benefit >from the collective knowledge of the members of the list, and to request forgiveness if I ever forgot to thank someone who took the time to answer a question of mine. Nachum Tuchman Tekoa, Israel P.S. Please note my new e-mail address nachum613@... I have updated my information on JewishGen
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum
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Nachum Tuchman
Hi,
I would also like to add my 2 cents. I don't recall a single incident that I did not get a reply to any e-mail that I sent privately to this or any of the other SIG's that I belong to on JewishGen. I usually answer privately, unless if there is a reason that the answer may be of use to other genners. I have also tried to answer everyone who replied to an e-mail of mine, and I hope that I have never forgotten anyone. May I take this opportunity to thank everyone for being you. We all benefit >from the collective knowledge of the members of the list, and to request forgiveness if I ever forgot to thank someone who took the time to answer a question of mine. Nachum Tuchman Tekoa, Israel P.S. Please note my new e-mail address nachum613@... I have updated my information on JewishGen
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"Jewish Families in Galicia" - Converts
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Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
Over the years, I have read much about the prostelyzing of Jews and their
conversions to Christianity. There were successful organized efforts to do this especially in the 1700's and 1800's. Jews who were not that religious or those who intermarried, or those who wished to avoid the negative issues common to Jews in certain countries as well as those who came to believe in the Christian ethic or those who became wealthy and wished to fit in, took advantage of this way out of their Jewish state. The prostelyzers were those who had roots in the communities or those who were traveling missionaries who went >from town to town and gathered their new adherants. Sometimes entire families converted and sometimes only one member. In England, for instance, there were Christian religious or missionary groups who set up centers in the Jewish ghtettos or poverty-ridden areas which provided much needed health care and food and religious sustenance and other necessities and thereby captured new converts in this manner. One found these groups still in existence in the 1920's in England and even later. This happened not only in Europe, but in America as well. Also of interest are a series of 1996 posts on the JewishGen digest made by Joseph H. Rubinstein. He posted excerpts >from a book which was called "Narrative of a Mission of Inquiry to the Jews >from the Church of Scotland in 1839" or "Mission of Inquiry" and discussed a Church of Scotland sponsored journey to Jewish areas in Europe and which included Galicia. Very fascinating and well-worth reading and will give you a good idea of the kinds of things which were taking place in the Jewish communities. It always helps to read the JewishGen digest for help with topics you are interested in as most certainly they have probably been discussed previously. Ann Rabinowitz annrab@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Jewish Families in Galicia" - Converts
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Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
Over the years, I have read much about the prostelyzing of Jews and their
conversions to Christianity. There were successful organized efforts to do this especially in the 1700's and 1800's. Jews who were not that religious or those who intermarried, or those who wished to avoid the negative issues common to Jews in certain countries as well as those who came to believe in the Christian ethic or those who became wealthy and wished to fit in, took advantage of this way out of their Jewish state. The prostelyzers were those who had roots in the communities or those who were traveling missionaries who went >from town to town and gathered their new adherants. Sometimes entire families converted and sometimes only one member. In England, for instance, there were Christian religious or missionary groups who set up centers in the Jewish ghtettos or poverty-ridden areas which provided much needed health care and food and religious sustenance and other necessities and thereby captured new converts in this manner. One found these groups still in existence in the 1920's in England and even later. This happened not only in Europe, but in America as well. Also of interest are a series of 1996 posts on the JewishGen digest made by Joseph H. Rubinstein. He posted excerpts >from a book which was called "Narrative of a Mission of Inquiry to the Jews >from the Church of Scotland in 1839" or "Mission of Inquiry" and discussed a Church of Scotland sponsored journey to Jewish areas in Europe and which included Galicia. Very fascinating and well-worth reading and will give you a good idea of the kinds of things which were taking place in the Jewish communities. It always helps to read the JewishGen digest for help with topics you are interested in as most certainly they have probably been discussed previously. Ann Rabinowitz annrab@...
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Re: Lack of common courtesy
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abe simon
Just a quick note to add my 2 sheckels.
I have received and given direct thanks to many people. I notice there are many people who end their post for info with "thanks in advance". Is this supposed to be a shortcut for real thanks when you get good info? It's like telling a waitperson in a restaurant thanks in advance for serving me so I don't have to leave you a tip. Abe Simon Las Vegas NV email abe_simon@...
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BOGASLAVSKY Family
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Dov & Varda Epstein <yknow@...>
Dear Dottie,
I think it is likely your family, like my paternal maternal family comes from Boguslav, in Kiev Gubernia (Ukraine), known in the Jewish vernacular asBoslov. Boguslav means: God is good, and the hypothesis is that Jews did not want to pronounce the name of the (Christian?) God, and thus slurred the name, much as the Satmar Chassidim avoid the real pronounciation of their shtetl of origin, which means St. Mary. Boguslav has an e-list for Jewish researchers, carried by Yahoo, which is called boslovlist@... Varda Epstein Efrat Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Lack of common courtesy
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abe simon
Just a quick note to add my 2 sheckels.
I have received and given direct thanks to many people. I notice there are many people who end their post for info with "thanks in advance". Is this supposed to be a shortcut for real thanks when you get good info? It's like telling a waitperson in a restaurant thanks in advance for serving me so I don't have to leave you a tip. Abe Simon Las Vegas NV email abe_simon@...
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BOGASLAVSKY Family
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Dov & Varda Epstein <yknow@...>
Dear Dottie,
I think it is likely your family, like my paternal maternal family comes from Boguslav, in Kiev Gubernia (Ukraine), known in the Jewish vernacular asBoslov. Boguslav means: God is good, and the hypothesis is that Jews did not want to pronounce the name of the (Christian?) God, and thus slurred the name, much as the Satmar Chassidim avoid the real pronounciation of their shtetl of origin, which means St. Mary. Boguslav has an e-list for Jewish researchers, carried by Yahoo, which is called boslovlist@... Varda Epstein Efrat Israel
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