Hi,

Great stuff! I'm envious of Mark's 18 days in Poland. My trips have all
been relatively short ones. I'll make a few comments about your
observations.

About two years ago I wrote the IPN (Institute of National Remembrance)
trying to find if documentation was available of the trial where my
relative Palter Lopata charged the Polish Police Assistant to the
Germans in Zabludow Zigmond Koslowski with war crimes. They wrote me
back telling me that the records of the trial were destroyed in 1989!
Palter and two other survivors >from Zabludow testified, and I think the
records of this trial would have information about what happened in
Zabludow during the war which is otherwise unknown and not available
elsewhere. They were nice enough to point me to some other resources on
Zabludow most of which I was familiar.

I think the issue of people who were recruited by the communist security
agencies is a huge one for Polish people, and I don't doubt that this
incident with the reporter would create a stir. My understanding is that
since the fall of the communist government in Poland very little has
been done to identify those who worked for the security agencies or
those who might actually be guilty of various crimes during this period.
Many ex-communists have been successful in the "new" Poland including
"reformed" ex-communist politicians. Of course this is really an issue
for Poles, but as a observing descendant of Polish Jews I have mixed
feelings about it. One possible benefit of the Poles facing the truth
about the communist period in Poland could be that they (Poles within
Poland and elsewhere) might see that the vast majority of those that
"collaborated" were not "Jews", just more or less ordinary Poles very
much like themselves. And that many millions of Poles simply did what
they needed to do to benefit >from the system and make a life, as people
generally do elsewhere. There where very few true heroes in this regard.

Historically I think the view in Poland has been widespread that 1)
communism was nearly 100 percent imposed on Poland >from without- this I
think is to quite a large extent correct but still somewhat exaggerated
by many Poles. 2) that it was largely Jews who were responsible for or
who were "used" to impose communism on Poland- this has a small grain of
truth but is very distorted and exaggerated in a convenient way. I
notice that many "activist" Poles living outside of Poland as Americans,
Canadians, Brits, etc., would like to see the government in Poland do
much more to expose, root out, and prosecute ex-communists and their
helpers. Inside Poland there has not been nearly as much taste for
this. Hopefuly the effects of the Bronislaw Wildstein incident on
access to Jewish vital records will be short lived but who knows.

The personal property restitution issue is very emotional and really I
think an impossible one in Poland. It's considerably more complex than
it was in the other European countries that have already dealt with
this. There are all kinds of people in Poland who could claim property
restitution, as you mention even Germans. Can you imagine how many Poles
might feel about that! What about the more than 1 million Poles >from
Eastern Poland who were arrested and deported East by the Russians
between Sept. 1939 and June 1941. Many of them lost property. Who are
they going to go to for restitution and what is their chance of every
seeing it. These are all issues that are ripe for exploitation by
various Polish political parties. We had two very nice Polish high
school students >from the Bialystok area come over to participate in the
Zabludow Synagogue model project about a year ago. They had a good time,
and were pretty enthusiastic. Their one concern was that the project
would increase interest among Jews here in their roots in Poland, and
that inevitably would lead them to have interest in property
restitution! Anyway, I think it's important to be aware that Jews
aren't the only ones in Poland that suffered, and what might be the
effects of our words and actions on others.

from what I understand the community property issue has caused a great

deal of bitterness and divisions within the Jewish community in Poland
and among those very concerned with it. >from what I understand one of
the assertions is that some of those involved in making decisions like
in selling religious property are people who Jewishness until rather
recently was quite subterranean, and that they are in no position in
terms of their knowledge or their emotional connection to be making such
decisions. About five years ago I was able to obtain an original
document that was a power of attorney >from 1946 giving the Jewish
community in Bialystok the right to sell the religious property in
Zabludow of the Rabbis house and the Bilsk Street prayer house for
130,000 Zloty's. It was signed by Shimon Datner and Menel Turek, and has
the seal of the post war Bialystok Jewish community. I gave a copy of it
to the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw. It appears that on the
property that was once the Zabludow wooden synagogue, the Mikvah, and
the Jewish school house, have been built the town's fire station, and
several homes. There is one large vacant lot behind the fire station. I
learned that when the fire station was being built they hit a large
concrete foundation, and that was removed. It was what was left of the
Mikvah. Architects >from the Conservators Office in Warsaw would like to
find where were the exact foundations of the synagogue and do some
archeological exploration there, but I don't know if that will be
possible.

The home and Blacksmith shop that was owned by my great grandfather and
then my great uncle was still there after the war. Now it appears to
have several homes that were built on it, though I don't now just what
the property line was. At first I had the wrong home and I thought that
the original home was still there. I talked to the owner who told me
that her stepfather bought the home in 1937 >from a Jew named Ico Baron,
and that my families home and shop was on the other side of the street
right over the little bridge. She showed me the deed, and the residency
list for her home. She was really very nice. I image in part because
she new she could show that this was not my families home, and that her
home had been legally bought before the war. She told me that when they
were building the homes where my families Smith shop was they found some
old horse shoes and that she still had a few. She gave me one which of
course I still have. I personally have no interest whatsover in
property restitution- just that the truth be known. That the property
belonged to Jews (my family), that they were murdered by the Germans,
and that the property was taken over by others.

Tilford

Hi,

Great stuff! I'm envious of Mark's 18 days in Poland. My trips have all
been relatively short ones. I'll make a few comments about your
observations.

About two years ago I wrote the IPN (Institute of National Remembrance)
trying to find if documentation was available of the trial where my
relative Palter Lopata charged the Polish Police Assistant to the
Germans in Zabludow Zigmond Koslowski with war crimes. They wrote me
back telling me that the records of the trial were destroyed in 1989!
Palter and two other survivors >from Zabludow testified, and I think the
records of this trial would have information about what happened in
Zabludow during the war which is otherwise unknown and not available
elsewhere. They were nice enough to point me to some other resources on
Zabludow most of which I was familiar.

I think the issue of people who were recruited by the communist security
agencies is a huge one for Polish people, and I don't doubt that this
incident with the reporter would create a stir. My understanding is that
since the fall of the communist government in Poland very little has
been done to identify those who worked for the security agencies or
those who might actually be guilty of various crimes during this period.
Many ex-communists have been successful in the "new" Poland including
"reformed" ex-communist politicians. Of course this is really an issue
for Poles, but as a observing descendant of Polish Jews I have mixed
feelings about it. One possible benefit of the Poles facing the truth
about the communist period in Poland could be that they (Poles within
Poland and elsewhere) might see that the vast majority of those that
"collaborated" were not "Jews", just more or less ordinary Poles very
much like themselves. And that many millions of Poles simply did what
they needed to do to benefit >from the system and make a life, as people
generally do elsewhere. There where very few true heroes in this regard.

Historically I think the view in Poland has been widespread that 1)
communism was nearly 100 percent imposed on Poland >from without- this I
think is to quite a large extent correct but still somewhat exaggerated
by many Poles. 2) that it was largely Jews who were responsible for or
who were "used" to impose communism on Poland- this has a small grain of
truth but is very distorted and exaggerated in a convenient way. I
notice that many "activist" Poles living outside of Poland as Americans,
Canadians, Brits, etc., would like to see the government in Poland do
much more to expose, root out, and prosecute ex-communists and their
helpers. Inside Poland there has not been nearly as much taste for
this. Hopefuly the effects of the Bronislaw Wildstein incident on
access to Jewish vital records will be short lived but who knows.

The personal property restitution issue is very emotional and really I
think an impossible one in Poland. It's considerably more complex than
it was in the other European countries that have already dealt with
this. There are all kinds of people in Poland who could claim property
restitution, as you mention even Germans. Can you imagine how many Poles
might feel about that! What about the more than 1 million Poles >from
Eastern Poland who were arrested and deported East by the Russians
between Sept. 1939 and June 1941. Many of them lost property. Who are
they going to go to for restitution and what is their chance of every
seeing it. These are all issues that are ripe for exploitation by
various Polish political parties. We had two very nice Polish high
school students >from the Bialystok area come over to participate in the
Zabludow Synagogue model project about a year ago. They had a good time,
and were pretty enthusiastic. Their one concern was that the project
would increase interest among Jews here in their roots in Poland, and
that inevitably would lead them to have interest in property
restitution! Anyway, I think it's important to be aware that Jews
aren't the only ones in Poland that suffered, and what might be the
effects of our words and actions on others.

from what I understand the community property issue has caused a great

deal of bitterness and divisions within the Jewish community in Poland
and among those very concerned with it. >from what I understand one of
the assertions is that some of those involved in making decisions like
in selling religious property are people who Jewishness until rather
recently was quite subterranean, and that they are in no position in
terms of their knowledge or their emotional connection to be making such
decisions. About five years ago I was able to obtain an original
document that was a power of attorney >from 1946 giving the Jewish
community in Bialystok the right to sell the religious property in
Zabludow of the Rabbis house and the Bilsk Street prayer house for
130,000 Zloty's. It was signed by Shimon Datner and Menel Turek, and has
the seal of the post war Bialystok Jewish community. I gave a copy of it
to the Jewish Historical Institute in Warsaw. It appears that on the
property that was once the Zabludow wooden synagogue, the Mikvah, and
the Jewish school house, have been built the town's fire station, and
several homes. There is one large vacant lot behind the fire station. I
learned that when the fire station was being built they hit a large
concrete foundation, and that was removed. It was what was left of the
Mikvah. Architects >from the Conservators Office in Warsaw would like to
find where were the exact foundations of the synagogue and do some
archeological exploration there, but I don't know if that will be
possible.

The home and Blacksmith shop that was owned by my great grandfather and
then my great uncle was still there after the war. Now it appears to
have several homes that were built on it, though I don't now just what
the property line was. At first I had the wrong home and I thought that
the original home was still there. I talked to the owner who told me
that her stepfather bought the home in 1937 >from a Jew named Ico Baron,
and that my families home and shop was on the other side of the street
right over the little bridge. She showed me the deed, and the residency
list for her home. She was really very nice. I image in part because
she new she could show that this was not my families home, and that her
home had been legally bought before the war. She told me that when they
were building the homes where my families Smith shop was they found some
old horse shoes and that she still had a few. She gave me one which of
course I still have. I personally have no interest whatsover in
property restitution- just that the truth be known. That the property
belonged to Jews (my family), that they were murdered by the Germans,
and that the property was taken over by others.

Tilford

Dear belaurs sig mambers.

Im looking information about my grandmothers brother in lew jona CHAKIN who
was married to her oldest sister brina MICHNOWICZ >from svir, they lived
befor the war in a place that was called hudotsisak that today in on
belaurs-litvnunia border they had 2 childern boy eli and a girl ruzal.
yours
yael halacmi
resrach:michnowicz and katz >from svir-belaurs

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Dear belaurs sig mambers.

Im looking information about my grandmothers brother in lew jona CHAKIN who
was married to her oldest sister brina MICHNOWICZ >from svir, they lived
befor the war in a place that was called hudotsisak that today in on
belaurs-litvnunia border they had 2 childern boy eli and a girl ruzal.
yours
yael halacmi
resrach:michnowicz and katz >from svir-belaurs

MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all messages with your location.

Peter Bakos asked about civil registration. It represents a valuable
source of personal data. The civil register cards called police
applications (policejni prihlasky) were kept since 1914 till 1955.
The card shows name, birth date and the place of birth, profession,
faith, status (married/single), name of the spouse, marriage date
and place, names of children and the date of leave (including the
date of transport during the nazi occupation).

Julius Muller
Toledot
Prague, CR

Peter Bakos asked about civil registration. It represents a valuable
source of personal data. The civil register cards called police
applications (policejni prihlasky) were kept since 1914 till 1955.
The card shows name, birth date and the place of birth, profession,
faith, status (married/single), name of the spouse, marriage date
and place, names of children and the date of leave (including the
date of transport during the nazi occupation).

Julius Muller
Toledot
Prague, CR

Hello researchers:

I would like to see if there are any family connections to the following
ancestors of mine:

Carl SIMONS, Anna Maria FREUDELIN, m: July 8, 1705 in Hassloch, Pfalz
Bayern, Germany
|
Johan Jacob Simons, b: July 1724 in Hassloch, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany.

Henry ROWLAND b: 1625 Scotland?
|
Israel Rowland b: June 15, 1669 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Israel Rowland b: 1700 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Thomas Rowland b: Sept. 22, 1721 Redding Connecticut
|
Hezekiah Rowland b: Jan 09, 1759 Fought in the American Revolution - My 6th
great-grandfather

Peter SALMON b: 1560 Brough, Westmorland, England
|
Christopher Salmon was born about 1578 in London, England
|
Sarah Salmon b: 1590/91 in England. She died after 1673.

Any possible family information would be appreciated.

Michael and Julie Weigel Charleston SC <theweigels@...>

Researching:
GROSSMAN, SCHNEIDER, KING, KINGMAN, HILL, HILLS, SALMON, SIMONS, ROWLAND,
WILDMAN, WILDER, DANIELS, ELLIS, ROOS, ROBBINS, SWART, GOLDSTONE, GOLD,
MAUS, KLAAS, BENSON, BOARDMAN, WEIGEL, BAKKER, MILANA, WINTER, WATERS,
DAVIDSON, DAVIS, SAMPSON, SNOW, JUNG, REIDEL, DORMAN

Hello researchers:

I would like to see if there are any family connections to the following
ancestors of mine:

Carl SIMONS, Anna Maria FREUDELIN, m: July 8, 1705 in Hassloch, Pfalz
Bayern, Germany
|
Johan Jacob Simons, b: July 1724 in Hassloch, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany.

Henry ROWLAND b: 1625 Scotland?
|
Israel Rowland b: June 15, 1669 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Israel Rowland b: 1700 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Thomas Rowland b: Sept. 22, 1721 Redding Connecticut
|
Hezekiah Rowland b: Jan 09, 1759 Fought in the American Revolution - My 6th
great-grandfather

Peter SALMON b: 1560 Brough, Westmorland, England
|
Christopher Salmon was born about 1578 in London, England
|
Sarah Salmon b: 1590/91 in England. She died after 1673.

Any possible family information would be appreciated.

Michael and Julie Weigel Charleston SC <theweigels@...>

Researching:
GROSSMAN, SCHNEIDER, KING, KINGMAN, HILL, HILLS, SALMON, SIMONS, ROWLAND,
WILDMAN, WILDER, DANIELS, ELLIS, ROOS, ROBBINS, SWART, GOLDSTONE, GOLD,
MAUS, KLAAS, BENSON, BOARDMAN, WEIGEL, BAKKER, MILANA, WINTER, WATERS,
DAVIDSON, DAVIS, SAMPSON, SNOW, JUNG, REIDEL, DORMAN

I am researching my grandparent's communities and I wonder if anyone can
help with the following;

1. Breslau 1920's - neighbours or aquaintances of the LEWINS who had a shop
at 41 Whilhelmstrasse.
2. GORLITZ - my grandfather Siegfreid Kamm was a member of the Gorlitz
community in the 1920's and '30's. Does anyone have any information
pertaining to this community?
3. LAUBAN (L. Silesia) 1920's - '30's - neighbours or aquaintances of the
Kamm's who had a shop at 10 Naumburgerstrasse.

Many thanks if your are able to help.

Robert Humphrey UK <lana@...>

I am researching my grandparent's communities and I wonder if anyone can
help with the following;

1. Breslau 1920's - neighbours or aquaintances of the LEWINS who had a shop
at 41 Whilhelmstrasse.
2. GORLITZ - my grandfather Siegfreid Kamm was a member of the Gorlitz
community in the 1920's and '30's. Does anyone have any information
pertaining to this community?
3. LAUBAN (L. Silesia) 1920's - '30's - neighbours or aquaintances of the
Kamm's who had a shop at 10 Naumburgerstrasse.

Many thanks if your are able to help.

Robert Humphrey UK <lana@...>

Hello researchers:
I would like to see if there are any family connections to the following
ancestors of mine:
Carl SIMONS, Anna Maria FREUDELIN, m: July 8, 1705 in Hassloch, Pfalz Bayern,
Germany Johan Jacob Simons, b: July 1724 in Hassloch, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany.

Henry ROWLAND b: 1625 Scotland?
|
Israel Rowland b: June 15, 1669 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Israel Rowland b: 1700 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Thomas Rowland b: Sept. 22, 1721 Redding Connecticut
|
Hezekiah Rowland b: Jan 09, 1759 Fought in the American Revolution - My 6th
great-grandfather

Peter SALMON b: 1560 Brough, Westmorland, England
|
Christopher Salmon was born about 1578 in London, England
|
Sarah Salmon b: 1590/91 in England. She died after 1673.

Any possible family information would be appreciated.

Michael Weigel, Goose Creek (Charleston), South Carolina <theweigels@...>

Researching:
GROSSMAN, SCHNEIDER, KING, KINGMAN, HILL, HILLS, SALMON, SIMONS, ROWLAND,
WILDMAN, WILDER, DANIELS, ELLIS, ROOS, ROBBINS, SWART, GOLDSTONE, GOLD,
MAUS, KLAAS, BENSON, BOARDMAN, WEIGEL, BAKKER, MILANA, WINTER, WATERS,
DAVIDSON, DAVIS, SAMPSON, SNOW, JUNG, REIDEL, DORMAN

Hello researchers:
I would like to see if there are any family connections to the following
ancestors of mine:
Carl SIMONS, Anna Maria FREUDELIN, m: July 8, 1705 in Hassloch, Pfalz Bayern,
Germany Johan Jacob Simons, b: July 1724 in Hassloch, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany.

Henry ROWLAND b: 1625 Scotland?
|
Israel Rowland b: June 15, 1669 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Israel Rowland b: 1700 Fairfield Connecticut
|
Thomas Rowland b: Sept. 22, 1721 Redding Connecticut
|
Hezekiah Rowland b: Jan 09, 1759 Fought in the American Revolution - My 6th
great-grandfather

Peter SALMON b: 1560 Brough, Westmorland, England
|
Christopher Salmon was born about 1578 in London, England
|
Sarah Salmon b: 1590/91 in England. She died after 1673.

Any possible family information would be appreciated.

Michael Weigel, Goose Creek (Charleston), South Carolina <theweigels@...>

Researching:
GROSSMAN, SCHNEIDER, KING, KINGMAN, HILL, HILLS, SALMON, SIMONS, ROWLAND,
WILDMAN, WILDER, DANIELS, ELLIS, ROOS, ROBBINS, SWART, GOLDSTONE, GOLD,
MAUS, KLAAS, BENSON, BOARDMAN, WEIGEL, BAKKER, MILANA, WINTER, WATERS,
DAVIDSON, DAVIS, SAMPSON, SNOW, JUNG, REIDEL, DORMAN

Thanks to all who responded privately with tips and suggestions! Hopefully
one will get me to the family I seek.

I so appreciate everyone's time and thoughtful responses.

Susi Godfrey

Thanks to all who responded privately with tips and suggestions! Hopefully
one will get me to the family I seek.

I so appreciate everyone's time and thoughtful responses.

Susi Godfrey

Hola:

Hay algiuen que pueda decirme cómo puedo conseguir certificados de
matrimonio de mis primos que vivían en la comunidad de Buenos Aires hace
30-90 años y sobre el precio? Tengo las fechas de matrimonio y los apellidos
del marido y la esposa.

Gracías

Hi,

Is there someone who can tell me how I may be able to obtain marriage
certificates >from the community of Buenos Aires? My cousins lived there
30-90 years ago. I have the marriage dates and the surnames of the husband
and wife. How much do they charge?

Thanks.

Robert RUBIN MAYO
bob_rubin@...

Hola:

Hay algiuen que pueda decirme cómo puedo conseguir certificados de
matrimonio de mis primos que vivían en la comunidad de Buenos Aires hace
30-90 años y sobre el precio? Tengo las fechas de matrimonio y los apellidos
del marido y la esposa.

Gracías

Hi,

Is there someone who can tell me how I may be able to obtain marriage
certificates >from the community of Buenos Aires? My cousins lived there
30-90 years ago. I have the marriage dates and the surnames of the husband
and wife. How much do they charge?

Thanks.

Robert RUBIN MAYO
bob_rubin@...

Hello Jeremy,

HUNYAD (pronounce huniad) was a county in the Hungarian Empire, capital Vajdahunyad, now in Romania, called HUNEDOARA.

As for Sephardim Jews in Romania, the answer is yes, there were Sephardim families living in the Transylvania territory which now is Romania.

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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Hello Jeremy,

HUNYAD (pronounce huniad) was a county in the Hungarian Empire, capital Vajdahunyad, now in Romania, called HUNEDOARA.

As for Sephardim Jews in Romania, the answer is yes, there were Sephardim families living in the Transylvania territory which now is Romania.

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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

The Slovak Government is looking for land owners and heirs who had land in the Slovak State during WW2 and the communist era, and whose titles of ownership are still not entered in the current Cadastre (register of landowners).

SUMMARY OF MOTIVES:
"This Act is supposed to bring order to the field of proprietary titles to real estate in the Slovak Cadastre. In general, after WW2, when communists came to power, the act of the entry of proprietary titles to real estate lost its sense. There was no juridical ground for private ownership and a lot of people were illegally expropriated by State. The above-mentioned ROEP(*) programme enables in the real estate Cadastre to enter the real estate, which has not been registered yet and, moreover, also the entries of title deeds (property assessment, inheritance, etc.) as well as the entries of titles recorded only in former land registers."

WHERE TO SEARCH?
On the bottom of page
http://www.geoportal.sk/roep/e.php
there is a search engine which allows searching for names and surnames.

DEADLINE:
The deadline to enter with a restitution/registration claims expires on September 1, 2005.

CLAIMS SUBMISSION:
To submit a claim, follow the instructions on the page above and send the documentation to one of the real estate registration offices. You will find their addresses and phone numbers on page:
http://www.geodesy.gov.sk/kontakt/Kontaktframe.htm
Click on the "Katastralne urady" link, then on the region to which the plot belongs (Banska Bytrica, Bratislava, Kosice, etc.).

In case of doubts, you can use this hotline: +421 (02) 5937 4259

Please send this message to your friends and acquaintances who might be interested in this program.

(*) ROEP is the shorthand for "Registre Obnovenej Evidencie Pozemkov" (Land Title Consolidation Programme)
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil
acting group coordinator of the
HOLOCAUST ERA RESTITUTIONS DISCUSSION GROUP
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/h-justice

The Slovak Government is looking for land owners and heirs who had land in the Slovak State during WW2 and the communist era, and whose titles of ownership are still not entered in the current Cadastre (register of landowners).

SUMMARY OF MOTIVES:
"This Act is supposed to bring order to the field of proprietary titles to real estate in the Slovak Cadastre. In general, after WW2, when communists came to power, the act of the entry of proprietary titles to real estate lost its sense. There was no juridical ground for private ownership and a lot of people were illegally expropriated by State. The above-mentioned ROEP(*) programme enables in the real estate Cadastre to enter the real estate, which has not been registered yet and, moreover, also the entries of title deeds (property assessment, inheritance, etc.) as well as the entries of titles recorded only in former land registers."

WHERE TO SEARCH?
On the bottom of page
http://www.geoportal.sk/roep/e.php
there is a search engine which allows searching for names and surnames.

DEADLINE:
The deadline to enter with a restitution/registration claims expires on September 1, 2005.

CLAIMS SUBMISSION:
To submit a claim, follow the instructions on the page above and send the documentation to one of the real estate registration offices. You will find their addresses and phone numbers on page:
http://www.geodesy.gov.sk/kontakt/Kontaktframe.htm
Click on the "Katastralne urady" link, then on the region to which the plot belongs (Banska Bytrica, Bratislava, Kosice, etc.).

In case of doubts, you can use this hotline: +421 (02) 5937 4259

Please send this message to your friends and acquaintances who might be interested in this program.

(*) ROEP is the shorthand for "Registre Obnovenej Evidencie Pozemkov" (Land Title Consolidation Programme)
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil
acting group coordinator of the
HOLOCAUST ERA RESTITUTIONS DISCUSSION GROUP
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/h-justice