Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking for Family
#ukraine
monroeg@...
Hello genners,
I am looking for descendents of the Shapiro family (name was Shapelfka) in the Ukraine. I have been told that they lived in Chmielnick, then moved to Vinniza , probably around 1900. David Shapiro (Shapelfka) married Rifka Dziakowski. Their children were: Chaike (Ida) (born 1896) married Issac Andelman and moved to Chicago, Illinois in the US. The other children were Chasie , Shlomie Yitzhak , Yisroel , Simcha, Sura Avraham and Lazar. Pictures of some of the family taken in Russia around 1972 can be found at: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/ viewmateview.asp?key=6232 I would appreciate if anyone having information on this family would contact me. Thank you very much. Monroe Ginsburg ST. Louis, MO Researching: GINZBURG(GINSBURG)-Grodno,Belarus;SORIN-Ros'/Volpa, Belarus KOBRINSKY,KOBRE,KOBRIN- Kobrin, Belarus DZIAKOWSKI, DIAKOVSKY, DAKOWSKY, SPITZ-- Sinyava (Siniova),Ukraine/Buenos Aires, Argentina; TENZER-Sinyava, Ukraine; SHAPIRA (SHAPEFKA)- Chmielnick/Vinniza, Ukraine |
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Looking for Family
#ukraine
monroeg@...
Hello genners,
I am looking for descendents of the Shapiro family (name was Shapelfka) in the Ukraine. I have been told that they lived in Chmielnick, then moved to Vinniza , probably around 1900. David Shapiro (Shapelfka) married Rifka Dziakowski. Their children were: Chaike (Ida) (born 1896) married Issac Andelman and moved to Chicago, Illinois in the US. The other children were Chasie , Shlomie Yitzhak , Yisroel , Simcha, Sura Avraham and Lazar. Pictures of some of the family taken in Russia around 1972 can be found at: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/ viewmateview.asp?key=6232 I would appreciate if anyone having information on this family would contact me. Thank you very much. Monroe Ginsburg ST. Louis, MO Researching: GINZBURG(GINSBURG)-Grodno,Belarus;SORIN-Ros'/Volpa, Belarus KOBRINSKY,KOBRE,KOBRIN- Kobrin, Belarus DZIAKOWSKI, DIAKOVSKY, DAKOWSKY, SPITZ-- Sinyava (Siniova),Ukraine/Buenos Aires, Argentina; TENZER-Sinyava, Ukraine; SHAPIRA (SHAPEFKA)- Chmielnick/Vinniza, Ukraine |
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT
#southafrica
Arthur Goldstuck <arthurg@...>
Adam Yamey asked:
In the UK all proceedings (debates etc) that occur in theIt's also called Hansard. You'd be able to access old records at Parliament itself and in the National Archives. Your best bet is to e-mail them on info@... to find out how to access it long distance. You'd probably have to pay a researcher. Online records only date back to 1999. Arthur Goldstuck |
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT
#southafrica
kelabraz@...
Adam Yamey writes:
In the UK all proceedings (debates etc) that occur in the Houses of Parliament are recorded word for word in a series of volumes known as "Hansard". Does such a publication exist for the South African Parliament? If yes, then what is it called? Q1 Yes Q2 Hansard |
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT
#southafrica
Jjlaca@...
Hi Adam,
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The answer should come as no surprise - it is Hansard! (smile) Jonny Joseph Los Angeles, CA, USA (Was Johannesburg) In a message dated 6/5/2005 11:14:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
safrica@... writes: Subject: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT From: Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:48:37 +0100 (BST) X-Message-Number: 1 My great grandfather Franz GINSBERG was a Member of Parliament (MLA) for King Williams Town on and off from 1908 until about 1927. I wish to discover moreabout the kinds of legislation with which he was involved. In the UK all proceedings (debates etc) that occur in the Houses of Parliament are recorded word for word in a series of volumes known as "Hansard". Does such a publication exist for the South African Parliament? If yes, then what is it called? The period that interests me is 1908-1927, and the Parliament(s) that interest me are those that governed the Cape Colony/Province including the Provincial Council, which he joined as a member in 1910. Thanks, Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@...> |
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Re: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT
#southafrica
Arthur Goldstuck <arthurg@...>
Adam Yamey asked:
In the UK all proceedings (debates etc) that occur in theIt's also called Hansard. You'd be able to access old records at Parliament itself and in the National Archives. Your best bet is to e-mail them on info@... to find out how to access it long distance. You'd probably have to pay a researcher. Online records only date back to 1999. Arthur Goldstuck |
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Re: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT
#southafrica
Jjlaca@...
Hi Adam,
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The answer should come as no surprise - it is Hansard! (smile) Jonny Joseph Los Angeles, CA, USA (Was Johannesburg) In a message dated 6/5/2005 11:14:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
safrica@... writes: Subject: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT From: Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 09:48:37 +0100 (BST) X-Message-Number: 1 My great grandfather Franz GINSBERG was a Member of Parliament (MLA) for King Williams Town on and off from 1908 until about 1927. I wish to discover moreabout the kinds of legislation with which he was involved. In the UK all proceedings (debates etc) that occur in the Houses of Parliament are recorded word for word in a series of volumes known as "Hansard". Does such a publication exist for the South African Parliament? If yes, then what is it called? The period that interests me is 1908-1927, and the Parliament(s) that interest me are those that governed the Cape Colony/Province including the Provincial Council, which he joined as a member in 1910. Thanks, Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@...> |
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Re: SOUTH AFRICAN (CAPE) PARLIAMENT
#southafrica
kelabraz@...
Adam Yamey writes:
In the UK all proceedings (debates etc) that occur in the Houses of Parliament are recorded word for word in a series of volumes known as "Hansard". Does such a publication exist for the South African Parliament? If yes, then what is it called? Q1 Yes Q2 Hansard |
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Re: Emigration Dates on US Census and City Directories
#general
Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
My mother-in-law states her maiden name is "FRIED". Others in her
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family spell it "FREID", "FREED", etc. She claims they chose to spell it in those ways on their own. When she came to this country, she thought the name was actually "FRIEDLEIN", but Ellis Island has it down as "FREDLINA" and that is exactly what the handwriting on the original manifest looks like. The way she explains all this is that "everyone has his or her own way of doing things". Leslie Weinberg Guy M. wrote: Could someone offer an opinion as to why my ancestors would give |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Emigration Dates on US Census and City Directories
#general
Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
My mother-in-law states her maiden name is "FRIED". Others in her
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family spell it "FREID", "FREED", etc. She claims they chose to spell it in those ways on their own. When she came to this country, she thought the name was actually "FRIEDLEIN", but Ellis Island has it down as "FREDLINA" and that is exactly what the handwriting on the original manifest looks like. The way she explains all this is that "everyone has his or her own way of doing things". Leslie Weinberg Guy M. wrote: Could someone offer an opinion as to why my ancestors would give |
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Invitation to "Yiddishland in Paris"
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Micheline GUTMANN <m.gutmann@...>
For all the Genners in France : we can send an invitation to the Feast
" Yiddishland in Paris" organized by AUJF and FSJU and the Mairie of Paris 4 on June 19th >from 11 am to 7 30 pm in Paris 4. GenAmi will have a stand of Jewish genealogy. Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France m.gutmann@... Site GenAmi : http://www.genami.org |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Invitation to "Yiddishland in Paris"
#general
Micheline GUTMANN <m.gutmann@...>
For all the Genners in France : we can send an invitation to the Feast
" Yiddishland in Paris" organized by AUJF and FSJU and the Mairie of Paris 4 on June 19th >from 11 am to 7 30 pm in Paris 4. GenAmi will have a stand of Jewish genealogy. Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France m.gutmann@... Site GenAmi : http://www.genami.org |
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Re: INTRO - View Mate Photo and Name Question WENDEL
#germany
Lars E. Menk <Lmenk@...>
Michael Wendel wrote on GerSig:
1. Emanuel WENDEL [...] his birth date was 22 Mar 1830 somewhereAccording to the book "Beitraege zur Geschichte der Juden in Thalfang" by Hilde Weirich and Winfrid Krause (Spiesen-Elversberg: 1995, ISBN 3-9803152-4-X , p. 59) Emanuel WENDEL (in the book wrong: MENDEL), b. ca. 1827 in Alf (Mosel), son of Max WENDEL & Regina JAKOBI, was married in 1856 (in Thalfang?) to Babetta LEVY, b. ca. 1831 (in Hilscheid near Thalfang?), daughter of Louis LEVY & Bile (Rosalia) JUDA. Louis LEVY was born on 14 Dec 1775 in Hilscheid near Thalfang, son of Leib "Lion" LEVY & Jakobine Loeb, and died in 1854 (in Thalfang?); in 1844, he was a poor cattle dealer in Thalfang. He was married to Bile (Rosalia) JUDA, b. ca. 1791 in Neumagen / Mosel (father: Juda Mayer), d. 1840 in Thalfang. Their children were: Juda LEVY, b. 1820; Mayer LEVY, b. 1823, d. 1899, tailor; Regina LEVY, b. 1827; Babetta LEVY, b. ca. 1831. There were two families WENDEL living in Germany in the 19th century. Max WENDEL in Alf might have come >from the one in Zeltingen-Rachtig / Mosel where the surname was adopted in 1808, derived >from the patronymic "Mendel" (many persons named "Emanuel" had the Judeo-German or Yiddish given name "Mendel", a pet form of "Menachem", in Germany in the 1800's). Descendants WENDEL were also living in Niederoefflingen (1843) and Bausendorf (1847) near Wittlich before 1850. The second family WENDEL was living in Flamersheim near Euskirchen (Rhineland) in the early 1800's; they were Kohanim, descendants of the priestly caste. You may want to order the marriage certificate of Emanuel WENDEL & Babetta LEVY in Thalfang (1856): Gemeinde Thalfang Saarstrasse 3 54424 Thalfang / Germany fon +49-6504 - 23 13 fax +49-6504 - 23 14 e-mail OGThalfang@... http://www.thalfang.de/ Good luck with your research! Kindest regards and Shalom, Lars Menk Berlin, Germany Lmenk@... |
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German SIG #Germany Re: INTRO - View Mate Photo and Name Question WENDEL
#germany
Lars E. Menk <Lmenk@...>
Michael Wendel wrote on GerSig:
1. Emanuel WENDEL [...] his birth date was 22 Mar 1830 somewhereAccording to the book "Beitraege zur Geschichte der Juden in Thalfang" by Hilde Weirich and Winfrid Krause (Spiesen-Elversberg: 1995, ISBN 3-9803152-4-X , p. 59) Emanuel WENDEL (in the book wrong: MENDEL), b. ca. 1827 in Alf (Mosel), son of Max WENDEL & Regina JAKOBI, was married in 1856 (in Thalfang?) to Babetta LEVY, b. ca. 1831 (in Hilscheid near Thalfang?), daughter of Louis LEVY & Bile (Rosalia) JUDA. Louis LEVY was born on 14 Dec 1775 in Hilscheid near Thalfang, son of Leib "Lion" LEVY & Jakobine Loeb, and died in 1854 (in Thalfang?); in 1844, he was a poor cattle dealer in Thalfang. He was married to Bile (Rosalia) JUDA, b. ca. 1791 in Neumagen / Mosel (father: Juda Mayer), d. 1840 in Thalfang. Their children were: Juda LEVY, b. 1820; Mayer LEVY, b. 1823, d. 1899, tailor; Regina LEVY, b. 1827; Babetta LEVY, b. ca. 1831. There were two families WENDEL living in Germany in the 19th century. Max WENDEL in Alf might have come >from the one in Zeltingen-Rachtig / Mosel where the surname was adopted in 1808, derived >from the patronymic "Mendel" (many persons named "Emanuel" had the Judeo-German or Yiddish given name "Mendel", a pet form of "Menachem", in Germany in the 1800's). Descendants WENDEL were also living in Niederoefflingen (1843) and Bausendorf (1847) near Wittlich before 1850. The second family WENDEL was living in Flamersheim near Euskirchen (Rhineland) in the early 1800's; they were Kohanim, descendants of the priestly caste. You may want to order the marriage certificate of Emanuel WENDEL & Babetta LEVY in Thalfang (1856): Gemeinde Thalfang Saarstrasse 3 54424 Thalfang / Germany fon +49-6504 - 23 13 fax +49-6504 - 23 14 e-mail OGThalfang@... http://www.thalfang.de/ Good luck with your research! Kindest regards and Shalom, Lars Menk Berlin, Germany Lmenk@... |
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Naturalization Requirements - Post WWII
#general
Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
Can someone tell me what the required time period was to become an American
citizen immediately post WWII? Were there different requirements for Holocaust survivors? If an alien married an American citizen, did they immediately become a citizen as well during that period? Ann Rabinowitz annrab@... |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naturalization Requirements - Post WWII
#general
Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
Can someone tell me what the required time period was to become an American
citizen immediately post WWII? Were there different requirements for Holocaust survivors? If an alien married an American citizen, did they immediately become a citizen as well during that period? Ann Rabinowitz annrab@... |
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Re: Were they from Poland or Russia
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Yehuda Berman <ybberman@...>
My father also came >from Kishinev in 1905 in what he, and everybody else
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then called it, Bessarabia. His ethnic group or, as people used to say, "nationality" was "Jewish" as was that of all the other Jews. At the time he lived there, most inhabitants of the city were Jews and Russians and some were Romanians and Germans. The peasants in the surrounding countryside were mostly Romanian. My father spoke Yiddish (what we used to call "Jewish") as his native language and Russian as a second language. He didn’t speak Romanian because there was no need to. However, his younger sisters, who continued to live there after it was transferred to Romania after the First World War learned to speak Romanian as well. Their Russian identity papers (it became Russian again after the Second World War) identified them as "Jews" by nationality. However, the United States did not and does not recognize people by their “nationality” but by their "citizenship", which varies >from time to time as borders change. In Eastern Europe, nobody’s ethnic group changes when territory changes hands – only their citizenship. A Polish Jew is not a Pole and a Russian Jew is not a Russian. So it makes sense to describe somebody’ s “nationality” as Jewish, and his origin as >from a certain town, which can be described as belonging to one country then and now belonging to another country. Yehuda Berman, Efrat, Israel I found Lilli Sprintz' comments very interesting - re her paternal |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Were they from Poland or Russia
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Yehuda Berman <ybberman@...>
My father also came >from Kishinev in 1905 in what he, and everybody else
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then called it, Bessarabia. His ethnic group or, as people used to say, "nationality" was "Jewish" as was that of all the other Jews. At the time he lived there, most inhabitants of the city were Jews and Russians and some were Romanians and Germans. The peasants in the surrounding countryside were mostly Romanian. My father spoke Yiddish (what we used to call "Jewish") as his native language and Russian as a second language. He didn’t speak Romanian because there was no need to. However, his younger sisters, who continued to live there after it was transferred to Romania after the First World War learned to speak Romanian as well. Their Russian identity papers (it became Russian again after the Second World War) identified them as "Jews" by nationality. However, the United States did not and does not recognize people by their “nationality” but by their "citizenship", which varies >from time to time as borders change. In Eastern Europe, nobody’s ethnic group changes when territory changes hands – only their citizenship. A Polish Jew is not a Pole and a Russian Jew is not a Russian. So it makes sense to describe somebody’ s “nationality” as Jewish, and his origin as >from a certain town, which can be described as belonging to one country then and now belonging to another country. Yehuda Berman, Efrat, Israel I found Lilli Sprintz' comments very interesting - re her paternal |
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Re: 1916 census of Jerusalem
#general
Jane Rosen Berenbeim
Thanks to Mathilde Tagger for her reference to Shmuel Shamir's useful
article. I am curious to know if anyone has been successful in using census and other records cited for Palestine in the late 19th century through the 1920s. Are there researchers in Israel who have expertise in searching these records? With thanks in advance, Jane Rosen Berenbeim NYC ROSEN Olviopol, Bogopol, Kishinev, Odessa > Palestine > NYC and Australia SCHAPIRO Kovno gubernia > Palestine > NYC; REITER Pogrebishche (Kiev gubernia)>NYC KLEINER Yanov (near Vinnitsa) > NYC and Israel BERENBEIM/BERENBAUM Baryshevka (near Kiev) > Winnipeg, Denver, NYC GANETSKY Mogilev > Winnipeg > Denver; GURNY/GOODNEY Lodz > NYC MALSCHEVETZER/SIEGEL > Proskurov > New Jersey |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1916 census of Jerusalem
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Jane Rosen Berenbeim
Thanks to Mathilde Tagger for her reference to Shmuel Shamir's useful
article. I am curious to know if anyone has been successful in using census and other records cited for Palestine in the late 19th century through the 1920s. Are there researchers in Israel who have expertise in searching these records? With thanks in advance, Jane Rosen Berenbeim NYC ROSEN Olviopol, Bogopol, Kishinev, Odessa > Palestine > NYC and Australia SCHAPIRO Kovno gubernia > Palestine > NYC; REITER Pogrebishche (Kiev gubernia)>NYC KLEINER Yanov (near Vinnitsa) > NYC and Israel BERENBEIM/BERENBAUM Baryshevka (near Kiev) > Winnipeg, Denver, NYC GANETSKY Mogilev > Winnipeg > Denver; GURNY/GOODNEY Lodz > NYC MALSCHEVETZER/SIEGEL > Proskurov > New Jersey |
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