I am searchin for my grand parents who came >from Romania. Leib
ROTTEMBERG and Risla FILDERMANN.
Their son Marcel migrated to France. He was born in 1906 in Roman.
I would like to know also if they had other children, their names nd
any news about this family.

Thanking you in advance

Tania Mouraud
47 rue Alexandre Dumas
75011 PARIS
06 20 51 88 19

I am searchin for my grand parents who came >from Romania. Leib
ROTTEMBERG and Risla FILDERMANN.
Their son Marcel migrated to France. He was born in 1906 in Roman.
I would like to know also if they had other children, their names nd
any news about this family.

Thanking you in advance

Tania Mouraud
47 rue Alexandre Dumas
75011 PARIS
06 20 51 88 19

I am looking for people out of Roman:
Leib ROTTEMBERG and Risla FILDERMANN. They had a son Marcel in 1906.
Can anybody give news?


Tania Mouraud
47 rue Alexandre Dumas
75011 PARIS
06 20 51 88 19

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I am looking for people out of Roman:
Leib ROTTEMBERG and Risla FILDERMANN. They had a son Marcel in 1906.
Can anybody give news?


Tania Mouraud
47 rue Alexandre Dumas
75011 PARIS
06 20 51 88 19

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I am so grateful to the many people >from all over "jewishgen-land" who
rushed to offer help! Thank you to each and every one of you!!!!!

The translation confirmed a hypothesis and thus linked a fairly recently
found branch of GUGGENHEIMERS >from Ihringen, Germany, to my
GUGGENHEIMER tree at the year 1800.

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

I am so grateful to the many people >from all over "jewishgen-land" who
rushed to offer help! Thank you to each and every one of you!!!!!

The translation confirmed a hypothesis and thus linked a fairly recently
found branch of GUGGENHEIMERS >from Ihringen, Germany, to my
GUGGENHEIMER tree at the year 1800.

Dottie Miller
San Antonio, TX USA

I was wondering if anyone can offer some advise? The
naturalization papers I have found for GGF say that
his country of Origin was Russia. Ok, thats a huge
help! Not! The info about how the family arrived says
to Canada then to Boston by train.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thank you

Lisa Arnett

I was wondering if anyone can offer some advise? The
naturalization papers I have found for GGF say that
his country of Origin was Russia. Ok, thats a huge
help! Not! The info about how the family arrived says
to Canada then to Boston by train.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thank you

Lisa Arnett

I recently posted a letter asking if anyone wanted a death certificate for
David FASS >from NYC. I will send it on without asking for compensation.

Now, I have a manifest for David FASS that cost me $37 and change. It's not
MY David FASS. Any takers?

I will keep these two articles in my back files in case anyone decides to
claim them later.

Dorothy AUERBACH Rivers
Tucson, Arizona USA

I recently posted a letter asking if anyone wanted a death certificate for
David FASS >from NYC. I will send it on without asking for compensation.

Now, I have a manifest for David FASS that cost me $37 and change. It's not
MY David FASS. Any takers?

I will keep these two articles in my back files in case anyone decides to
claim them later.

Dorothy AUERBACH Rivers
Tucson, Arizona USA

I am reminded of the story about a young boy who watched his father
working at a gas station.

A car drove up and the driver said, "I am thinking about moving to
this area. What are the people like in this town?" The station
attendant asked, "What are they like where you come from?" To which
the dirver replied, "They are mean and nasty and generally
disagreeable." The station attendant replied, "They are pretty much
the same way here."

Then another car drove up and the driver asked, "What are the people
like in this town? We are planning to move here soon." The station
attendant aksed him the same question, "What are they like where you
come from?" The second driver said, "Most people are very nice and
helpful. I will miss them." The station attendant again replied,
"They are pretty much the same way here."

After the second driver left, the young boy, asked his father, "Dad,
how come you told each of those drivers that the people were just
like they described, and one said that people were nasty and the
other said that they were nice?"

His father replied, "What you expect is what you get."

I am reminded of the story about a young boy who watched his father
working at a gas station.

A car drove up and the driver said, "I am thinking about moving to
this area. What are the people like in this town?" The station
attendant asked, "What are they like where you come from?" To which
the dirver replied, "They are mean and nasty and generally
disagreeable." The station attendant replied, "They are pretty much
the same way here."

Then another car drove up and the driver asked, "What are the people
like in this town? We are planning to move here soon." The station
attendant aksed him the same question, "What are they like where you
come from?" The second driver said, "Most people are very nice and
helpful. I will miss them." The station attendant again replied,
"They are pretty much the same way here."

After the second driver left, the young boy, asked his father, "Dad,
how come you told each of those drivers that the people were just
like they described, and one said that people were nasty and the
other said that they were nice?"

His father replied, "What you expect is what you get."

Re. Pamela Weisberger's Judische Familien In Galizien (Jewish Families in
Galicia), >from Manfred Daum who works with Galizien German Descendants...
I suspect many people will benefit >from the information Pamela provided with
this file and other work she has done on behalf of Gesher Galicia in
particular and JewishGen in general.

To thank Pamela and the many responders who help one another through this
forum, one should consider a contribution, large or small, to JewishGen
and/or Gesher Galicia.

Let's not dwell on the negatives - the endless messages re the "Lack of
Common Courtesy" but rather the positives - those wonderful Genners who do
respond and help one another, the thousands who benefit >from the
discussions, the education we get, the Region Special Interest Groups
(SIGS), the JewishGen-hosted Projects like JRI-Poland etc.

The best way I know to say "thank you" to anyone for anything is to make a
contribution to a worthy cause. I suggest a general contribution to
JewishGen, or a contribution to your favorite project, or honor a worthy
individual. JewishGen relies exclusively on our generosity to ensure their
continued growth. They count on our support.

Go to www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA

Researching:
ABELES Vienna, San Francisco; BROWN/GROSS Schenectady, NY; CARDOZO London,
Rochester, NYC; GOITMAN Kishinev, Tiraspol; HAYS Germany, Rochester, NYC;
KIRSCHBAUM Jaroslaw, Vienna; MANDELBERG Jaroslaw, Vienna, Berlin; MUHLSTEIN
Rzeszow, Vienna; NEUSPIEL, Nikolsburg, Moravia; Vienna & Hollabrunn Austria;
RESHOWER Austria, Germany, NYC; ROSENSTOCK Stryj, Rzeszow, Jaroslaw;
SELIGMAN Germany, Rochester, NYC; STEIN Stryj, Vienna.

Re. Pamela Weisberger's Judische Familien In Galizien (Jewish Families in
Galicia), >from Manfred Daum who works with Galizien German Descendants...
I suspect many people will benefit >from the information Pamela provided with
this file and other work she has done on behalf of Gesher Galicia in
particular and JewishGen in general.

To thank Pamela and the many responders who help one another through this
forum, one should consider a contribution, large or small, to JewishGen
and/or Gesher Galicia.

Let's not dwell on the negatives - the endless messages re the "Lack of
Common Courtesy" but rather the positives - those wonderful Genners who do
respond and help one another, the thousands who benefit >from the
discussions, the education we get, the Region Special Interest Groups
(SIGS), the JewishGen-hosted Projects like JRI-Poland etc.

The best way I know to say "thank you" to anyone for anything is to make a
contribution to a worthy cause. I suggest a general contribution to
JewishGen, or a contribution to your favorite project, or honor a worthy
individual. JewishGen relies exclusively on our generosity to ensure their
continued growth. They count on our support.

Go to www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA

Researching:
ABELES Vienna, San Francisco; BROWN/GROSS Schenectady, NY; CARDOZO London,
Rochester, NYC; GOITMAN Kishinev, Tiraspol; HAYS Germany, Rochester, NYC;
KIRSCHBAUM Jaroslaw, Vienna; MANDELBERG Jaroslaw, Vienna, Berlin; MUHLSTEIN
Rzeszow, Vienna; NEUSPIEL, Nikolsburg, Moravia; Vienna & Hollabrunn Austria;
RESHOWER Austria, Germany, NYC; ROSENSTOCK Stryj, Rzeszow, Jaroslaw;
SELIGMAN Germany, Rochester, NYC; STEIN Stryj, Vienna.

Hi Fellow Genners:

We have exhausted the topic of "what to do when your fellow genner does not
say thank you...". I have a problem - I have found distant relatives who
live in my geographical area.

I have sent them two Passover cards. I have phoned them two times and left
messages on their voicemail.

Finally I sent them a legal style letter explaining who I am, who can
vouch for me and asking them to contact me via phone, email or
letter....Nothing.....!!!!

It has been two months now. I feel very rejected. If this happened to
me...and I was not interested, I would send them a line saying, thanks but
no thanks.... or make up some excuse....too busy, working too hard....but
thank them for their efforts.

I have found these people after the holocaust had flung my relatives all
over the place. Has this happened to any of you?
Do you have any advice?
Thanks!
Viviane Kluska
Canton, Michigan
Kindly reply to: _vivianeck2003@...

Hi Fellow Genners:

We have exhausted the topic of "what to do when your fellow genner does not
say thank you...". I have a problem - I have found distant relatives who
live in my geographical area.

I have sent them two Passover cards. I have phoned them two times and left
messages on their voicemail.

Finally I sent them a legal style letter explaining who I am, who can
vouch for me and asking them to contact me via phone, email or
letter....Nothing.....!!!!

It has been two months now. I feel very rejected. If this happened to
me...and I was not interested, I would send them a line saying, thanks but
no thanks.... or make up some excuse....too busy, working too hard....but
thank them for their efforts.

I have found these people after the holocaust had flung my relatives all
over the place. Has this happened to any of you?
Do you have any advice?
Thanks!
Viviane Kluska
Canton, Michigan
Kindly reply to: _vivianeck2003@...

Dear JGenners,

There has been a bit of confusion in this Discussion, which
follows up my original posting. Let me see if I can explain my
understanding of the situation more clearly.

The Austro-Hungarian Army contained recruits >from all over
the Empire, including >from Galicia. When World War I ended, the
Empire was dissolved into several new states. These included the
present country of Austria plus successor states outside of the new
Austria. For example, Galicia became part of Poland in the inter-war
years. It is my understanding that the military records for those
recruits who were >from the new Austria are held in the Kriegsarchiv
in Vienna. However, the military records for recruits outside of
present day Austria were sent to the successor states. Thus, the
records for Galician recruits would not be held in the Kriegsarchiv.
It is not clear to me where these records went nor where they are now
although the discussion did make several suggestions.

This all fits with my experience trying to locate my
grandfather's military records. He served twice. Once when he was a
Galician recruit ending in 1899 and another time after he moved to
Vienna and became a citizen of the Vienna community (zustaendig nach
Wien). When I requested his military records >from the Kriegsarchiv,
I received only the records for his second tour of duty. I have not
been able to obtain his military records for his first tour of duty,
when he was a citizen of a community in Galicia (zustaendig nach
Buczacz).

This represents my current understanding of the situation,
and I would welcome any further input and clarification on this
matter. I will pursue it and if I learn something new, I will report
back.

--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

Dear JGenners,

There has been a bit of confusion in this Discussion, which
follows up my original posting. Let me see if I can explain my
understanding of the situation more clearly.

The Austro-Hungarian Army contained recruits >from all over
the Empire, including >from Galicia. When World War I ended, the
Empire was dissolved into several new states. These included the
present country of Austria plus successor states outside of the new
Austria. For example, Galicia became part of Poland in the inter-war
years. It is my understanding that the military records for those
recruits who were >from the new Austria are held in the Kriegsarchiv
in Vienna. However, the military records for recruits outside of
present day Austria were sent to the successor states. Thus, the
records for Galician recruits would not be held in the Kriegsarchiv.
It is not clear to me where these records went nor where they are now
although the discussion did make several suggestions.

This all fits with my experience trying to locate my
grandfather's military records. He served twice. Once when he was a
Galician recruit ending in 1899 and another time after he moved to
Vienna and became a citizen of the Vienna community (zustaendig nach
Wien). When I requested his military records >from the Kriegsarchiv,
I received only the records for his second tour of duty. I have not
been able to obtain his military records for his first tour of duty,
when he was a citizen of a community in Galicia (zustaendig nach
Buczacz).

This represents my current understanding of the situation,
and I would welcome any further input and clarification on this
matter. I will pursue it and if I learn something new, I will report
back.

--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

There has been a bit of confusion in this Discussion, which
follows up my original posting. Let me see if I can explain my
understanding of the situation more clearly.

The Austro-Hungarian Army contained recruits >from all over
the Empire, including >from Galicia. When World War I ended, the
Empire was dissolved into several new states. These included the
present country of Austria plus successor states outside of the new
Austria. For example, Galicia became part of Poland in the inter-war
years. It is my understanding that the military records for those
recruits who were >from the new Austria are held in the Kriegsarchiv
in Vienna. However, the military records for recruits outside of
present day Austria were sent to the successor states. Thus, the
records for Galician recruits would not be held in the Kriegsarchiv.
It is not clear to me where these records went nor where they are now
although the discussion did make several suggestions.

This all fits with my experience trying to locate my
grandfather's military records. He served twice. Once when he was a
Galician recruit ending in 1899 and another time after he moved to
Vienna and became a citizen of the Vienna community (zustaendig nach
Wien). When I requested his military records >from the Kriegsarchiv,
I received only the records for his second tour of duty. I have not
been able to obtain his military records for his first tour of duty,
when he was a citizen of a community in Galicia (zustaendig nach
Buczacz).

This represents my current understanding of the situation,
and I would welcome any further input and clarification on this
matter. I will pursue it and if I learn something new, I will report
back.

--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

There has been a bit of confusion in this Discussion, which
follows up my original posting. Let me see if I can explain my
understanding of the situation more clearly.

The Austro-Hungarian Army contained recruits >from all over
the Empire, including >from Galicia. When World War I ended, the
Empire was dissolved into several new states. These included the
present country of Austria plus successor states outside of the new
Austria. For example, Galicia became part of Poland in the inter-war
years. It is my understanding that the military records for those
recruits who were >from the new Austria are held in the Kriegsarchiv
in Vienna. However, the military records for recruits outside of
present day Austria were sent to the successor states. Thus, the
records for Galician recruits would not be held in the Kriegsarchiv.
It is not clear to me where these records went nor where they are now
although the discussion did make several suggestions.

This all fits with my experience trying to locate my
grandfather's military records. He served twice. Once when he was a
Galician recruit ending in 1899 and another time after he moved to
Vienna and became a citizen of the Vienna community (zustaendig nach
Wien). When I requested his military records >from the Kriegsarchiv,
I received only the records for his second tour of duty. I have not
been able to obtain his military records for his first tour of duty,
when he was a citizen of a community in Galicia (zustaendig nach
Buczacz).

This represents my current understanding of the situation,
and I would welcome any further input and clarification on this
matter. I will pursue it and if I learn something new, I will report
back.

--
Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.