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Approaching someone from long ago and far away-- thoughts please #general

sivin@aol.com <sivin@...>
 

Hello everyone,
I have a little situation I would appreciate some opinions on insofar
as approach. About 75 years ago my great-uncle married and had a child.
He sadly died soon after, leaving a young widow and infant. The family
story goes that our family and hers were in touch for a bit, but then
she remarried and disappeared.

I have recently found her on a census, living with her family and child
after the death of my uncle. The name of a younger brother is given and
I'm fairly certain I have located this man. Though I don't have an
address(it was not on Google)I do have his phone number. I would like
to write him a letter, once I locate his address, in the hopes that he
would point me to his niece.

Here are my issues: The man is about 95 years old. I have no idea whom
he is living with, if indeed he is not living alone. I thought of just
referring to our family name and asking him if he could forward my
letter on to anyone who might be interested. I hesitate to go into
details on paper because of the possibility that the second husband
adopted the child, raised her as his own, and perhaps she was never
told about the first family. I would not want someone unfamiliar with
the story (perhaps a grandchild) to find out this way.

Does this seem like a logical way to approach things? I don't feel
comfortable calling him and I certainly don't want to upset a family.

Thank you.

H. Baldwin
Sacramento, CA


Re: SSNs in California Death Index #general

Beverly Shulster <gettingbttr@...>
 

Barry Finkel wrote:

I found a relative recently in the California Death Index.
The Social Security number listed for this person was
her late husband's SSN. Is this normal in the CADI?
This was my first search in the CADI.
--Barry Finkel
Chicago, IL, USA
Women, if they never held a paying job, did not get SS numbers of their
own and later in life when they were widowed, received survivor
benefits under their husband's number.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel


Re: SSNs in California Death Index #general

Mary B
 

Barry, I also found a female relative in the California Death Index.
She and her husband were not listed in the SSDI. When I sent away for
the application, it turned out to be his.

Mary Blumenstein
Melbourne, Australia

Researching: BAUM/Svidnik, Satoraljaujhely, Hungary. BERNER/KATZ/
Beregovo,Ukraine.BLUMENSTEIN/IvanoFrankovsk,Ukraine.GOLDFARB/MONCIASZ
Parczew,Poland.HELLINGER/Michalovce,Kosice,Slovakia.NEUMAN/NEUMANN/
Kvakovce,Michalovce, Slovakia

Barry Finkel wrote:

I found a relative recently in the California Death Index.
The Social Security number listed for this person was
her late husband's SSN. Is this normal in the CADI?
This was my first search in the CADI.
--Barry Finkel
Chicago, IL, USA


Re: National Geographic/IBM project ... and Family Tree DNA #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

While agreeing with the moderator that this is not the start of a
thread, I thought Genners should know that Family Tree DNA,
founded by fellow Genner Bennett Greenspan, is doing the testing
for the public portion of this interesting project.
Inspired by Bennett's own frustration in matching two possible
branches of his own family, FTDNA was the first company to
provide genetic genealogy testing for family history enthusiasts,
whose surname projects increase daily.
In looking at Jewish genealogy today, we see that many
projects assisting today's researchers began with the inspiration
of one person with a vision, such as Susan King of JewishGen
itself, Stan Diamond of JRI-Poland, to name only a few of a long
list of such individuals.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
(Branches in Tel Aviv, Ra'anana, Petah Tikva, Herzliya, Rehovot)
schelly@...
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Approaching someone from long ago and far away-- thoughts please #general

sivin@aol.com <sivin@...>
 

Hello everyone,
I have a little situation I would appreciate some opinions on insofar
as approach. About 75 years ago my great-uncle married and had a child.
He sadly died soon after, leaving a young widow and infant. The family
story goes that our family and hers were in touch for a bit, but then
she remarried and disappeared.

I have recently found her on a census, living with her family and child
after the death of my uncle. The name of a younger brother is given and
I'm fairly certain I have located this man. Though I don't have an
address(it was not on Google)I do have his phone number. I would like
to write him a letter, once I locate his address, in the hopes that he
would point me to his niece.

Here are my issues: The man is about 95 years old. I have no idea whom
he is living with, if indeed he is not living alone. I thought of just
referring to our family name and asking him if he could forward my
letter on to anyone who might be interested. I hesitate to go into
details on paper because of the possibility that the second husband
adopted the child, raised her as his own, and perhaps she was never
told about the first family. I would not want someone unfamiliar with
the story (perhaps a grandchild) to find out this way.

Does this seem like a logical way to approach things? I don't feel
comfortable calling him and I certainly don't want to upset a family.

Thank you.

H. Baldwin
Sacramento, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSNs in California Death Index #general

Beverly Shulster <gettingbttr@...>
 

Barry Finkel wrote:

I found a relative recently in the California Death Index.
The Social Security number listed for this person was
her late husband's SSN. Is this normal in the CADI?
This was my first search in the CADI.
--Barry Finkel
Chicago, IL, USA
Women, if they never held a paying job, did not get SS numbers of their
own and later in life when they were widowed, received survivor
benefits under their husband's number.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: National Geographic/IBM project ... and Family Tree DNA #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

While agreeing with the moderator that this is not the start of a
thread, I thought Genners should know that Family Tree DNA,
founded by fellow Genner Bennett Greenspan, is doing the testing
for the public portion of this interesting project.
Inspired by Bennett's own frustration in matching two possible
branches of his own family, FTDNA was the first company to
provide genetic genealogy testing for family history enthusiasts,
whose surname projects increase daily.
In looking at Jewish genealogy today, we see that many
projects assisting today's researchers began with the inspiration
of one person with a vision, such as Susan King of JewishGen
itself, Stan Diamond of JRI-Poland, to name only a few of a long
list of such individuals.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
(Branches in Tel Aviv, Ra'anana, Petah Tikva, Herzliya, Rehovot)
schelly@...
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SSNs in California Death Index #general

Mary B
 

Barry, I also found a female relative in the California Death Index.
She and her husband were not listed in the SSDI. When I sent away for
the application, it turned out to be his.

Mary Blumenstein
Melbourne, Australia

Researching: BAUM/Svidnik, Satoraljaujhely, Hungary. BERNER/KATZ/
Beregovo,Ukraine.BLUMENSTEIN/IvanoFrankovsk,Ukraine.GOLDFARB/MONCIASZ
Parczew,Poland.HELLINGER/Michalovce,Kosice,Slovakia.NEUMAN/NEUMANN/
Kvakovce,Michalovce, Slovakia

Barry Finkel wrote:

I found a relative recently in the California Death Index.
The Social Security number listed for this person was
her late husband's SSN. Is this normal in the CADI?
This was my first search in the CADI.
--Barry Finkel
Chicago, IL, USA


Romania SIG #Romania GLUCK in Ermihalyfalva/ Valea lui Mihai #romania

fbandjd@...
 

To the individuals making inquiries about the surname GLUCK and
Ermihalyfalva:

While visiting the Jewish Cemetery in Ermihalyfalva/Valea lui Mihai
last year we were able to take some pictures, before leaving due to a
sudden rainstorm. One picture is of a FELDMAN and GLUCK Family
Holocaust Memorial stone, plus several individual GLUCK headstones.

If anyone is interested please contact me privately.
Fran Meng
Walnut Creek, CA
fbandjd@...


GLUCK in Ermihalyfalva/ Valea lui Mihai #romania

fbandjd@...
 

To the individuals making inquiries about the surname GLUCK and
Ermihalyfalva:

While visiting the Jewish Cemetery in Ermihalyfalva/Valea lui Mihai
last year we were able to take some pictures, before leaving due to a
sudden rainstorm. One picture is of a FELDMAN and GLUCK Family
Holocaust Memorial stone, plus several individual GLUCK headstones.

If anyone is interested please contact me privately.
Fran Meng
Walnut Creek, CA
fbandjd@...


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland re: marriages in 20th century #warsaw #poland

Bill Celmaster <bill.celmaster@...>
 

My father's parents divorced about 1910 and my grandmother later remarried
in Warsaw. Is it likely that there are any surviving records of this
marriage? If so, would my grandmother's surname show up as her original
married name, or as her original (maiden) surname? Finally, if the record
is likely to have survived, is there a way for me to obtain it remotely, or
would I need to show up in person in Warsaw?

Thanks in advance for the help.


Re: marriages in 20th century #warsaw #poland

Bill Celmaster <bill.celmaster@...>
 

My father's parents divorced about 1910 and my grandmother later remarried
in Warsaw. Is it likely that there are any surviving records of this
marriage? If so, would my grandmother's surname show up as her original
married name, or as her original (maiden) surname? Finally, if the record
is likely to have survived, is there a way for me to obtain it remotely, or
would I need to show up in person in Warsaw?

Thanks in advance for the help.


LAZARUS and COHEN in Manchester #unitedkingdom

Don-BonnieBlish <dcatalyst@...>
 

Hello,

I am trying to locate descendants of Yetta/Jetta/Kate LAZARUS and her
children David and Morris LAZARUS and Rachel (Lazarus) COHEN. Yetta =
(maiden
name KAMYNITZ) and husband Israel LAZARUS immigrated >from "Poland" =
before
1870, when daughter Rachel was born in Whitechapel/Spitalfields.

Rachel married "Polish" immigrant Myer COHEN and lived in Manchester
(Prestwich district, Cheetham subdistrict) with children Harris, Hyman,
Jessie, and Philip COHEN, per the 1901 census. I believe a daughter =
Toby
was born later. Rachel also had 2 sisters, Leah (Lazarus) BAKER (my
grandmother) and Sarah (Lazarus) LEOPOLD, who immigrated separately to =
the
US to join their husbands around 1906.

I have posted an entry on the JGFF and have obtained a few birth, =
marriage,
and census documents. I would appreciate any information on members of =
this
family or suggestions on how to obtain more recent data. Please respond
privately to dcatalyst@.... Thank you.

Bonnie Blish
Los Angeles, CA

Researching: LAZARUS, COHEN (Manchester), LEOPOLD (New York, New =
Jersey),
KAMYNITZ (Poland), BAKER/BECKER (Russia, Manchester, Philadelphia, St.
Louis, Chicago), KHARITON (Dashev-Kiev Gubernia-Ukraine), SABBATH/SABATH
(Kiev- Ukraine)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom LAZARUS and COHEN in Manchester #unitedkingdom

Don-BonnieBlish <dcatalyst@...>
 

Hello,

I am trying to locate descendants of Yetta/Jetta/Kate LAZARUS and her
children David and Morris LAZARUS and Rachel (Lazarus) COHEN. Yetta =
(maiden
name KAMYNITZ) and husband Israel LAZARUS immigrated >from "Poland" =
before
1870, when daughter Rachel was born in Whitechapel/Spitalfields.

Rachel married "Polish" immigrant Myer COHEN and lived in Manchester
(Prestwich district, Cheetham subdistrict) with children Harris, Hyman,
Jessie, and Philip COHEN, per the 1901 census. I believe a daughter =
Toby
was born later. Rachel also had 2 sisters, Leah (Lazarus) BAKER (my
grandmother) and Sarah (Lazarus) LEOPOLD, who immigrated separately to =
the
US to join their husbands around 1906.

I have posted an entry on the JGFF and have obtained a few birth, =
marriage,
and census documents. I would appreciate any information on members of =
this
family or suggestions on how to obtain more recent data. Please respond
privately to dcatalyst@.... Thank you.

Bonnie Blish
Los Angeles, CA

Researching: LAZARUS, COHEN (Manchester), LEOPOLD (New York, New =
Jersey),
KAMYNITZ (Poland), BAKER/BECKER (Russia, Manchester, Philadelphia, St.
Louis, Chicago), KHARITON (Dashev-Kiev Gubernia-Ukraine), SABBATH/SABATH
(Kiev- Ukraine)


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania WALDMAN family in Montreal #lithuania

joniffer3@...
 

Hello All!

I recently learned that my great-great grandfather, Nisan Waldman
(>from Troskunai) had one more child than I'd previously known. This
son, unlike his siblings who immigrated to NYC, apparently settled in
Montreal and launched a fairly successful business called "Waldman's
Fish Market". It apparently still exists, though under new ownership.

I know nothing more about this son, other than his range of birthyears
falling between 1860 and 1875.

I've checked all the usual locations for more info, including the entire
JewishGen site and ALD. If any of you have any other information that
might be helpful, please contact me privately at joniffer3@...
(unless your response would be of interest to all, of course).

Thanks!
Jonathan Levine
New York, NY

researching:
WALDMAN, YUTER, KANTOR, LESOWITZ, SHKUDOVICH, JAFFE, LOHN, FERKIN in
Troskunai, Panevyzs, Raguva, Zagare


WALDMAN family in Montreal #lithuania

joniffer3@...
 

Hello All!

I recently learned that my great-great grandfather, Nisan Waldman
(>from Troskunai) had one more child than I'd previously known. This
son, unlike his siblings who immigrated to NYC, apparently settled in
Montreal and launched a fairly successful business called "Waldman's
Fish Market". It apparently still exists, though under new ownership.

I know nothing more about this son, other than his range of birthyears
falling between 1860 and 1875.

I've checked all the usual locations for more info, including the entire
JewishGen site and ALD. If any of you have any other information that
might be helpful, please contact me privately at joniffer3@...
(unless your response would be of interest to all, of course).

Thanks!
Jonathan Levine
New York, NY

researching:
WALDMAN, YUTER, KANTOR, LESOWITZ, SHKUDOVICH, JAFFE, LOHN, FERKIN in
Troskunai, Panevyzs, Raguva, Zagare


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Why did the Litvaks prefer South Africa to the USA? #lithuania

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Why did the Litvaks prefer South Africa to the USA?

The portrayal, by a fellow Litvak, of Jewish life in SA and the
successes of men like Sammy Marks are amongst the fascinating writings
translated and collected for the first time in a book entitled

Meyer Dovid Hersch
Rand Pioneer Historian
Recorder of Jewish Life in early Johannesburg

The South African Jewish Board of Deputies

will be hosting the launch of this unusual and excellent book on

Wednesday 1 June at 5.30 pm
at Beyachad, 2 Elray Street, Raedene.

Speakers
Mendel Kaplan
Rabbi Dr G Mazabow: Distinguished Jewish historian
Joshua Levy: Compiler of the book & grandson of Meyer Hersch
Naomi Musiker:Archivist, SAJBD

Copies of the book (limited edition), signed by Joshua Levy
will be on sale at R150.

Refreshments will be served

RSVP: Please phone Beulah (am only)
or Sheila (pm only)at Beyachad. Email: beulah@...


Saul Issroff


Why did the Litvaks prefer South Africa to the USA? #lithuania

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Why did the Litvaks prefer South Africa to the USA?

The portrayal, by a fellow Litvak, of Jewish life in SA and the
successes of men like Sammy Marks are amongst the fascinating writings
translated and collected for the first time in a book entitled

Meyer Dovid Hersch
Rand Pioneer Historian
Recorder of Jewish Life in early Johannesburg

The South African Jewish Board of Deputies

will be hosting the launch of this unusual and excellent book on

Wednesday 1 June at 5.30 pm
at Beyachad, 2 Elray Street, Raedene.

Speakers
Mendel Kaplan
Rabbi Dr G Mazabow: Distinguished Jewish historian
Joshua Levy: Compiler of the book & grandson of Meyer Hersch
Naomi Musiker:Archivist, SAJBD

Copies of the book (limited edition), signed by Joshua Levy
will be on sale at R150.

Refreshments will be served

RSVP: Please phone Beulah (am only)
or Sheila (pm only)at Beyachad. Email: beulah@...


Saul Issroff


Romania SIG #Romania Fanny SOLOMAN #romania

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

I have had no luck finding Fanny SOLOMAN on the Ellis Island database.
She would be about 20 coming >from Jassy, Romania around 1900.What other
first name might she have used? She was single and coming to marry
FRUITMAN. I did try the last name of FRUITMAN also. Advice? Please

Gayle

from San Gabriel


Fanny SOLOMAN #romania

Gayle Schlissel Riley <key2pst@...>
 

I have had no luck finding Fanny SOLOMAN on the Ellis Island database.
She would be about 20 coming >from Jassy, Romania around 1900.What other
first name might she have used? She was single and coming to marry
FRUITMAN. I did try the last name of FRUITMAN also. Advice? Please

Gayle

from San Gabriel