Re: Help with nyc surrogate/family court #usa


Several years ago I went to the Manhattan surrogates court looking for information about the guardianship of my cousins, whose parents had died in 1940.  As I remember, there were computers for the  public to use to search their data base by name.  I did find listings for those cousins, and was able to request the documents.  I do not remember if they had the documents on premises, or if I had to order them and return at a later date.  

What I do remember is that if I wanted to make copies, I had to use their copy machine and pay for each page separately.  I don't know if it's still like that, but if you go there, bring a lot of change, just in case.

Laurel Presser
Manalapan, NJ

Re: Landsmanschaft societies in New York #usa

Lin Mor

Please keep in mind that people sometimes did not join the society related to their town of origin. My paternal grandparents joined the society of a cousin's husband and are buried in that society's area in Beth David Cemetery in Elmont, NY. 

Linda Cohen Morzillo

Saratoga Springs, NY




PRESS and SCHNEIDER in Vidukle and other Raseiniai towns

AMCHISLAVSKY and ERLICHMAN in Rostov-on-Don and previously Kozelets and Oster, Chernigov Gubernia

COHEN/KAGAN and BORNSTEIN in Oshmiany and France

KOSOFSKY in Shchuchyn, near Lida, Belarus

SWOTINSKY in Grodno Gubernia Poland/Russia/Belarus

Re: Landsmanschaft societies in New York #usa

David Lewin

At 13:13 27/08/2022, marianbww@... wrote:
Another book of possible interest for background: "Jewish Hometown
Associations and Family Circles in New York" by Hannah Kliger
(Indiana University Press, 1992).

- Marian Burk Wood, researching Schwartz and Farkas families who
helped found the Kossuth Ferenc Literary, Sick & Benevolent
Association in New York City in 1904.

Is this part of the Mokkom Sholom cemeteries in Bayside?

David Lewin

Search & Unite attempt to help locate people who, despite the passage
of so many years since World War II, may still exist "out there".
We also assist in the process of re-possession of property in the
Czech Republic and Israel.
See our Web pages at

Re: Landsmanschaft societies in New York #usa

Ilene Wagner

Trudy…. The office you mention is YIvo Institute for Jewish Research and it’s at the same location as the Center for  Jewish History on 16th Street. An appointment is necessary. Follow this link for visitor information:

Ilene Wagner
Fultonville, NY

Re: Permalinks for NYC Historical Vital Records? #usa


I take it step further. I convert the pdf to a 300 dpi jpg and upload THAT file to my tree at Ancestry, transcribing the info in each gallery posting. That way they are viewable to anyone (PDFs need to be downloaded to be viewed). I am slowly replacing the thousands of microfilm documents with the new color scans.

Elias Savada
Bethesda, Maryland

Re: Landsmanschaft societies in New York #usa

Marian B. Wood

Another book of possible interest for background: "Jewish Hometown Associations and Family Circles in New York" by Hannah Kliger (Indiana University Press, 1992). 

- Marian Burk Wood, researching Schwartz and Farkas families who helped found the Kossuth Ferenc Literary, Sick & Benevolent Association in New York City in 1904.

Re: Permalinks for NYC Historical Vital Records? #usa

Rick Luftglass

The NYC database is a “work in progress,” and they seem to be adjusting as well as adding. So even if there were direct links to records, they may become obsolete.

As others have said, you can download the pdf and save a copy. For Ancestry, I add a birth, marriage or death “fact,” and in the notes I include the main link and the cert number, year and the borough so it’s always easy to find on the site. I also upload the pdf to the Gallery, linked to that individual (or in the case of marriages, you can attach it to both)  

That way you have the best of both worlds - the image is saved on your tree, and you (or people who have access to your tree) can easily re-find it)

Rick Luftglass
Brooklyn, NY


Locations of interest.
Pcim (Myslenice county), Poland
Oswiecim, Poland
Andrychow, Poland
Gdow, Poland
Narajow (present-day Ukraine)
Namestovo (present-day Slovakia)
Bogopol (present-day Pervomaisk, Ukraine)

USCIS Updates Genealogy Forms #usa #announcements #records

Jan Meisels Allen


While this was originally posted on the IAJGS Records Access Alert as many of you may be requesting USCIS records I am also posting this on this listserve. I apologize for the duplication for those who are also on the IAJGS Records Access Alert. It is rare that I post something on Records Access Alert on the this forum. It is best if you have subscribed to the IAJGS Records Access Alert so you do not miss any important notices.


The United States Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS) posted an update notice on August 26, 2022 regarding updating the genealogy forms. The edition date of the form is August 10, 2022 but they will also accept the 09/17/19 and 12/123/16 editions. The edition is listed at the bottom of the page on the form and instructions. This is for both Form G-1041A Genealogy Records Request and G-1041 Genealogy Index Search Request


You can find more on the USCIS forms updates page: The actual forms are:  and


Note: the price for each genealogical service was not increased. It is still $65 EACH service for G-1041A and G-1041


To read past IAJGS Public Records Access Alerts on USCIS go to the archives of the IAJGS Records Access Alert at: You must be registered to access the archives. 

To register go to:  and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical  organization with whom you are affiliated  

You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized.


Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee



Re: Help with nyc surrogate/family court #usa


It's helpful to give as much information as possible with your initial inquiry.  That said, here is a pageful of references for the NY Surrogate's Court. .  As you did not mention the specific borough, I did not specify one in my search. 
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Landsmanschaft societies in New York #usa


If your purpose is to find a particular grave, it would be much easier to search on sites such as deadfred, findagrave, legacy, etc.  If you are looking for the social aspects of the society, you might find some information through and similar sites.  I once found a list of dinner guests for a landsmanschaften to which my uncle belonged in the 1960s. I did a quick search for you but did not find results. However, the official name of the society might differ slightly from the way you presented it here. 
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Re: Help with nyc surrogate/family court #usa

Barbara Rice

This is the New York County (Manhattan) Court website for documents and research.
i had success requesting a document recently. (No search from them as I had a citation from an index on they ordered the document and let us know when they had it.)
All I did was follow the instructions here. No restrictions on the document, maybe because it was from 1870.
Barbara Rice,  Minneapolis MN
Researching KUPFERSCHMIDT - Radekhiv Ukraine (Radziechow, Galicia) and Philadelphia PA; ZUCHOVITZ - Stowtsby Belarus and Woodbine NJ; ROHSSLER - Krakow and New York City; REHFELD- Gollub-Dobrzyn; RUSONIK - Polotsk Belarus, Manchester England, New York City and Providence RI.

JGS Cleveland presents “Secrets, Lies, and Families … Let’s Talk!” with Julie Klam and Diane Cole, Wed, Sept 7, 7 pm ET on Zoom #announcements #education #jgs-iajgs

Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland

Join the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland for our next Zoom program on Wednesday, Sept 7, 2022, 7-8:30 pm ET: “Secrets, Lies, and Families … Let’s Talk!” with Julie Klam and Diane Cole.


Program:  The genealogy lessons from “The Almost Legendary Morris Sisters: A True Story of Family Fiction” by Julie Klam ... her title says it all:  What's fact?  What's fiction?  How can we distinguish between the two?  What can research reveal, and what secrets will remain unknown, however much we research?  What lessons can we learn from disproving the mythical, fictional aspects of family history?  How do we reconcile our family fictions with family realities?  Join JGS Cleveland for a discussion with author, Julie Klam, and book reviewer, Diane Cole, about the impact of surprises uncovered from the past.  Other discussion topics will include advice for conducting interviews with family about their past, why family members try to hide their own history, and the consequences when the truths come out anyway.  Julie and Diane will use their own family stories to help us delve into our own genealogy journeys.


Speakers:  Julie Klam grew up in Bedford, New York.  After attending NYU's Tisch School of the Arts and interning at Late Night with David Letterman, Julie went on to write for such publications as O: The Oprah Magazine, Rolling Stone, Harper's Bazaar, Glamour, Real Simple and for the VH1 television show Pop-Up Video, where she earned an Emmy nomination for Outstanding Special Class Writing.  Her books include, Please Excuse My Daughter, You Had Me at Woof, Love at First Bark, Friendkeeping, The Stars in Our Eyes, and The Almost Legendary Morris Sisters which was a Washington Post best book of the year.  She has appeared on various shows including The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.  Currently she writes for The New York Times and The Washington Post. She lives in New York City with her family.


As an independent writer and book author for more than thirty years, Diane Cole has written for a wide range of publications, including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, National Geographic, The Washington Post, NPR online, BBC Culture online, The Forward, The Jewish Review of Books and many others.  She’s been a contributing editor for U.S. News and World Report as well as for Psychology Today.  The broad range of subjects she’s covered through the years include Jewish history, culture, and literature; psychology, health, parenting, and family life; literature and fiction; travel and culture; personal essays and memoir; office life and retirement issues.


Her memoir, one of her three books, After Great Pain:  A New Life Emerges (1992, Summit Books/Simon and Schuster) was listed as a New York Times “Notable Book of the Year” and one of USA Today’s ten best non-fiction books of the year.  She also served on the faculty of the Temple Emanu-El Skirball Center (now Streiker Center) in New York, where she taught courses on Philip Roth, Jewish humor, Yiddish literature, and themes of faith and doubt in Jewish literature.  Born in Baltimore, Maryland, Diane received my undergraduate degree from Harvard College (1974) and have an M.A. from Johns Hopkins University (1975).   She now lives in New York City.


Registration: Required and free - Send an email to rsvp@... by 12 Noon ET on Sept 7th to receive a Zoom link.  If you are NOT a JGS Cleveland member, please include your name, email, and complete mailing address.




Go to for more program, speaker, and membership information.




Contact: Deborah A. Katz, JD, PhD

President, JGS Cleveland

Re: Help with Dutch Translation #translation #records


Thank you to all who helped with this translation, we are very grateful for your help. 
This has now been translated. I could not update the original post to say this, so I have updated the comments.
Laura Harrison, United Kingdom

Re: Help with Dutch Translation #translation #records


The Deepl translation is good.It has missed one word about the wife:  beroep. Translation: occupation (in this case none)

Loes Buisman, Amsterdam

Beltsy, and Beltsy district Vital records #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan

Dear Bessarabers,

I want to update you on Vital Records for town of Beltsy and Beltsy district.

We received these records 2-3 years ago, and now we are completing them:

-Birth records - 1911, 1912, 1913, 1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918  - all done and available on JG
-Marriage records - 1911, 1912, 1916 - done and available on JG, 1914, 1915, 1917, 1918 - completed and will be loaded to JG in December of 2022
-Death records - 1913 - done and available at JG, 1914, 1917 - in progress and will be available and uploaded to JG in December of 2022

We have acquired a few months ago more vital records for Beltsy and district:
-Birth records - Beltsy 1919, 1920, 1921 and for Vadu-Lui-Vlad 1919, 1920, 1921
-Marriage records - Beltsy 1919, 1920, 1921; Aleksandreny 1919, 1920, 1921 and Vadu-lui-Vlad 1919, 1920, 1921
-Death records - Beltsy 1919, 1920, 1921; Aleksandreny 1919, 1920, 1921 and Vadu-lui-Vlad 1919, 1920, 1921

These new records written in Romanian.  If you can read handwritten Romanian, and want to help translating records, please let me know.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator

This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #yizkorbooks #ukraine #JewishGenUpdates

Bruce Drake

This week’s Yizkor book selection is an excerpt from a chapter titled "The Judenrat in Mizoch Had a High Moral Standard, But…"
The role played by the Judenrat during the Nazi occupation is one of the most controversial aspects of the Holocaust period. The Jewish councils often performed a balancing act: on one hand, they felt a responsibility to help their fellow Jews as much as possible, on the other, they were supposed to carry out the orders of the Nazi authorities - often at the expense of their fellow Jews.
In some Yizkor book accounts, the Judenrat are portrayed with bitterness and even hatred depending on how they conducted themselves. Yehuda Broinshtein, who wrote this chapter, had a somewhat measured view of the Judenrat from his experience with them in Mizoch (Ukraine), as evidenced by the title he chose for the chapter: “Of course, we also did not exactly have it easy with the Judenrat, but the relationship we had with the Judenrat was ideal in comparison to that of other places.” He says they “did not lose their humanity and even kept their morality and righteousness,” but balancing the demands of the Nazis and trying not to harm Jews “could not be done.” And he relates events that illustrate this.
The Germans would promise personal safety and comfort to the members of the Judenrat but ultimately, after fulfilling their duties, Judenrat members were killed together with the rest of the Jews.

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel

Re: Help with Dutch Translation #translation #records



Uit het Register van den Burgerlijken Stand berustende in het Archief van het Koninklijke Landsgericht te Cleve

No9       Geboorte Oorkonde

Burgemeesterij Rheinberg Kreis Geldern               Regerings Departement Düsseldorf

In het jaar 1800 twee en veertig, den tweeden Februari, des voormiddags 10 (?)2 uur, verscheen voor mij Peter Paul Verspecken, wethouder van Rheinberg, gedelegeerd als Ambtenaar van den Burgerlijken Stand,

Elias Lehmann Gompertz, 32 jaar oud, slager, woonachtig te Rheinberg, regerings Departement Düsseldorf die mij een kind van het mannelijke geslacht vertoonde en mij verklaarde, dat dit kind den tweeden Februari achtienhonderd twee en veertig des nachts om 2 uur geboren is van hem Elia Lehmann Gompertz en van Charlotte Lehmann, zijne huisvrouw, -----------beroep, woonachtig te Rheinberg in de Rheinstraat in het huis No29, en verklaarde verder aan dit kind de voornamen Bernhard Elias te geven.

Dit veronen en verklaren heeft plaats gehad in tegenwoordigheid van Wilhelm Schmitz, 40 jaren oud, banketbakker woonachtig te Rheinberg, en van Laurentz Pfeil, 33 jaren oud, blauwverver, woonachtig te Rheinberg.

Na gedane voorlezing hebben al de Comparanten den acte ondertekend,

(?) Gompertz, Pfeil, W Schmitz, Verspecken

The original may have been in Dutch. Borders used to change, and the official language around the time may have been Dutch.
The language is a bit oldfashioned, so I hope your translation service can handle that. If you send it to me I coul make corrections if needed.

Loes Buisman, Amsterdam


JGSLI meeting September 7m 2022 7:00PM Mapping Your Family History: How to Create a Customized Google Map #announcements and #announcements #jgs-iajgs

Barry Goldberg



When: Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 7:00 PM


Location: Zoom Prerecorded – see registration info below


Mapping Your Family History: How to Create a Customized Google Map

Alex Calzareth

Create maps with your own data on Google Maps. This presentation will teach you how to create a custom map, import location data associated with family history events or source records and then customize the appearance of that data on the map. Custom maps can be used in many ways, including visually conveying family migration patterns, showing the location of regional cemeteries, or which towns hold certain vital records. Alex Calzareth is a genealogist focusing on Southwest Germany, the Czech Republic and Southern Italy who began researching his family roots over twenty years ago. He is a board member for Reclaim The Records and the Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island, serving as JGSLI's webmaster. Alex is also the JewishGen Research Director for Germany. Professionally he is a CPA working in commercial real estate in New York City.

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We look forward to seeing you all!

Posted by Barry Golberg member-at-large JGSLI

Seeking Old Photos from Przedecz, Poland #poland


My name is Nina Schwartz. I am a volunteer graphic designer working with JewishGen on Yizkor books.

Do you have old family photos from when your relatives lived in Przedecz, Poland? The English translation of the Memorial Book of Przedecz will soon be ready to print, and photos are needed for the book cover. 

It is difficult to find good 1880-1947 photos online, and JewishGen cannot afford to license them from Getty Images, Alamy, USHMM, etc. 

I am looking for photos that show:

1. The Jewish part of town, with Jewish buildings such as synagogues, study houses, marketplace, shops, houses, schools, etc. Old postcards may be used. 
2. Non-family groups, such as a class, zionist group, factory workers, professional group, or just people at work or play (outdoor photos preferred).
3. Single portraits and family groups, 1-20 people (outdoor photos preferred).
4. Modern photos of the old Jewish area, where some old structures remain, such as synagogues, cemetery headstones, houses or other Jewish buildings. Or a panorama or aerial view of the town.
5. Damage and destruction caused by the Holocaust and the Second World War.

Images must be in good focus, but do not have to be in perfect condition. I may even be able to repair fading, rips, blotches and other problems, making your photo more useful to you.

If you have old photos, please don’t send them yet. Write to me at artstop@... for instructions on how to scan them in high resolution, or re-photograph them. 

I look forward to hearing from you soon. Many thanks in advance for your kind help!

Nina Schwartz

Re: Help with nyc surrogate/family court #usa

Professor Ryesky

Shelley, I am not talking about child custody or divorce cases, I needed access to relevant, ordinary, garden-variety decedent estates.


-- Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL

Raisky, Shkolnik(ov), Aronov, Aerov (Gomel)
Brodsky (Odessa)
Gertzig (Yelizavetgrad)
Arshenov, Israelson (Yevpatoriya)
Vasilesky, Silberman (Odessa)

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