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Re: NYTimes Article About September 18-20 Ken Burns documentary about U.S. and Holocaust #holocaust #usa

Adam Cherson
 

Thanks Jan. I look forward to watching this documentary.

My own grandparents were part of this story. They were able to immigrate to Cuba circa 1930 after the US quota system, but before the St. Louis incident. I remember my grandfather telling me about how he and my grandmother went to the pier in Havana to protest, to no avail.

The SS St. Louis wasn't the only disaster of this type. There was also SS Struma: https://www.yadvashem.org/exhibitions/struma/overview.html sunk by a Soviet torpedo after being denied entry to Palestine by the British and to Istanbul by the Turks. Approximately 740 Jews attempting to flee from Romania drowned in that incident. And of course there is the story of the SS Exodus 1947 ( https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/exodus-1947 ), where 4,500 refugees were denied entry into Palestine due to British enforced quotas there, eventually being returned to Europe.

There were many Jews inside of Europe did not themselves believe what they were being told by their own co-religionists about the camps, and willingly packed their bags for what they thought would be a holiday in the country. There was an enormous dis-information campaign being conducted to deceive the world as to what was occurring (cf. eg. Theresienstadt), and as the saying goes, the first casualty of war is truth. Nobody wins wars. Factors such as "public indifference, bureaucratic red tape and restrictive quota laws" also heavily impacted the tragedy, but one must not underestimate the nefarious force of Hitler's propaganda machine.

I am hoping the program sheds some light on our current immigration dilemmas here in the US vis a vis for example Ukrainian, Aghan, and Latin American refuge seekers and quotas. What are the lessons for today of the WWII experience? How sustainable will a US open door policy be, in view of the oncoming flood of refugees from global environmental degradation? We in New York City are now dealing with over 7,000 Mexican asylum seekers bused here by the governor of Texas. We have accepted them and are doing everything possible to ease their burdens, but of course doing so requires resources and time taken away from the other many problems facing city residents.

--
Adam Cherson
NY, NY


Re: Request for signatures translation-Hebrew #translation

Odeda Zlotnick
 

The name is Aharon the next two characters mean "son of" the other four could be an abbreviation preceding his father's name.  It could be "the respected Rabbi, Rav" but the abbreviation marks are the usual ones.  Perhaps that's the way they marked in that place at that time.  
In Jewish tradition, a person's name consists of their given name, and their father's given name.
Thus, in example no. 1 in the first image, you're showing us only part of the full name.

In the second image,  the name is once again, Aharon, then you have "son of".   It's possible that the next word stands for "HaRav Shimon".  HaRav means "the rabbi".

Some of the letters in example no. 2 are in Rashi script.  Please improve the image resolution.

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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Myska, myskova #austria-czech

Shaun Murphy
 

Hello again. I found some more names if you can help. I'm looking for any records of a Marie myska,myskova,Mischka variation in bohemia. Mainly in vodnany.  Her parents are Louis Martin and Sophia.  Thank you so much for helping me with this .
                                 Shaun Murphy 


Re: Utah JGS Meeting - Deep Genetic Genealogy: A Survey for Researchers of All Levels by Adam Cherson #dna #events #rabbinic

Adam Cherson
 

New URL for slideshow: https://tinyurl.com/dggvideo
Prior URL is discontinued.

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Adam Cherson,NY, NY
Genomics Publications and Presentations: https://independent.academia.edu/AdamCherson


Re: Can you read this street name on the left side? #records

Lmeyer8090@...
 

It is also possible that the street still exists, but has been re-named.

I have no knowledge of Queens street history, so take this with a large grain of salt.  I found a couple of resources indicating that streets were renamed in Queens.  See Steve Morse's description and his list of changes.  I also found the description from NY1 interesting.

I also found this map from 1949, which shows that 69th street north of Northern Avenue was also called 12th Street.  

If that isn't the street, I would guess it was in the same vicinity.

Larry Meyer
Kensington, MD
Looking at a 1949 Map of Jackson Heights I found online, it appears that 69th Street was also referred to as 12th Street at this time. This seems a possible solution.
 
 


danapol2@...
 

It seems the Czech National Archives stopped using that domain. All the data should be now in the database at https://vademecum.nacr.cz/
Or you can check the archives menu at https://www.nacr.cz/en/for-public/research-room/digital-research-room-archival-records-on-line 
Unfortunately it seems the new URLs are constructed differently so it is not possible to use the paths from the old links to access the specific scans or images.

Dana Polakovicova
Czechia / Slovakia


Redesigned Library and Archives Canada Website #canada

Marion Werle
 

The Library and Archives Canada website has been redesigned. The home page is different, and the genealogy portal has moved. The full URL to the genealogy page is https://library-archives.canada.ca/eng/collection/research-help/genealogy-family-history/pages/genealogy-family-history.aspx (I have purposely not shortened it). There are links to five major sections: Census search, Immigration records, Citizenship and naturallization, First World War - Personnel records, and Employment records. Towards the bottom of the page, there is a section called "Research guides and other resources," which includes a link to Jewish Canadians, and several more pages that link to  sections which will look familiar if you are a regular user of the website.

It is a shock when you first see it, but once you find the genealogy page, it is quite straightforward.

Good luck!
--
Marion Werle
<canadagenes@...>


Re: Grave photo request - Acacia Cemetery, Queens NY #usa

Sherri Bobish
 

Richard,

A photo of his stone is online at JewishData.com

I've attached the photo.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching:
RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.); LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.); WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.); SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / BLUMENKRANZ / APPEL / WEINER / ROSENBERG (Vysoko-Litovsk, Brest, Biala Podlaska)


Re: Can you read this street name on the left side? #records

Sherri Bobish
 

Hi Barbara,

I have a friend who lived in those Jackson Heights Quonset huts as a child.

There was an airport in Jackson Heights, Holmes Airport, that went bankrupt in 1940.  After WW11, the empty site was used to build 1,874 Quonset huts for emergency housing for returning veterans.

This site has an old map that shows where Holmes Airport was located.
https://untappedcities.com/2013/10/15/untapped-mailbag-what-were-boundaries-holmes-airport-bulova-building-queens/

The Quonset hut that you lived in was somewhere on the old Holmes Airport property.  The boundaries of the Holmes Airport are clear on the map, between Astoria B'lvd. & 31st Ave.

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching:
RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.); LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.); WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.); SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / BLUMENKRANZ / APPEL / WEINER / ROSENBERG (Vysoko-Litovsk, Brest, Biala Podlaska)


Re: Book: Tears Over Russia: A Search for Family and the Legacy of Ukraine's Pogroms #ukraine

Shelley Mitchell
 

My 1 year old mother and her parents left Kolomea in 1920. My grandmother’s 2 brothers fled to Shanghai at some point during WW Ii. They kept a lot of Holocaust information from their sister before and after they came to the US. But when you asked my grandmother about pogroms, her face turned red and she spoke with fear and anger. Our personal experiences shape us in so many ways. I don’t think she would have survived the Holocaust. Thank the Lord she didn’t have to try.


Shelley Mitchell, NYC 


Re: Can you read this street name on the left side? #records

jbonline1111@...
 

Thanks to all who helped me privately and online.  The suggestions for how to figure it out were very helpful as well as the information itself.  

It's very likely that these streets no longer exist because the housing, Army barracks converted to apartments according to my parents, was torn down in 1952-3. I think more modern housing was built there, but I'm not certain. I can remember aspects of living there as far back as age 2, but the address was beyond me. 
--
Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Re: Grave photo request - Acacia Cemetery, Queens NY #usa

Brian Kerr
 

I don't live in the City anymore, but am very familiar with Find-A-Grave. There's a Photo Request feature exactly for requests like this.

I had just submitted a Photo Request (aka Headstone Photo) in Find-A-Grave. It reflects that there's about 175 photo volunteers entered in their system.

If you go to the Find-A-Grave Memorial now, you'll see my request pop-up.

Good Luck! :-))

-- ~Brian D. Kerr, Esq | SSG, U.S. Army (Retired) | SSA, Brigade G1, U.S. Army (Retired) |>>Known Family Surnames (Researching): Dessler, Walk(Valk), Mahler (Maler), Paradisgarten (Paradisegarten), Tomasy (Thomashy), Gluck, Preisz (Priess), Steinhardt (Steinhart), Grossman (Grosman), Sholtz (Shultz), Kaplan, Bloom, Fischer (Fisher), Levy, Baum, Duwidewic, Meisal (Maisel)<<|>>Known Family Locations/Regions (of Surnames): Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania<<|


Re: Genealogy Brick Wall due to Name Change #ukraine

Brian Kerr
 

Which names did you try looking for?

The document reflects that he arrived under the name of "Harry Schneider", but this could/may/might be a situation of someone who typed it based upon how it sounded to them (as this was common then).

It could be as it was typed or a spelling variant(s). It could be simple or may take time.

Regarding the dates, I've seen slight differences before that's probably entered as a best/approximate guess.

-- ~Brian D. Kerr, Esq | SSG, U.S. Army (Retired) | SSA, Brigade G1, U.S. Army (Retired) |>>Known Family Surnames (Researching): Dessler, Walk(Valk), Mahler (Maler), Paradisgarten (Paradisegarten), Tomasy (Thomashy), Gluck, Preisz (Priess), Steinhardt (Steinhart), Grossman (Grosman), Sholtz (Shultz), Kaplan, Bloom, Fischer (Fisher), Levy, Baum, Duwidewic, Meisal (Maisel)<<|>>Known Family Locations/Regions (of Surnames): Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania<<|


This week's Yizkor books excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #JewishGenUpdates #ukraine

Bruce Drake
 

“The Great Shlepper” from the Yizkor book of Rivne (Rovno) in Ukraine is the story of one of the many occupations of Jews — in this case, a group of around fifty members whose livelihood came from unloading or uploading big wagons. But as a group of men whose strength enabled them to do those jobs, “the big porters” played another important role in the community, namely, fending off attacks on their fellow Jews. Lacking any real protection from the police, they were the unofficial police that curbed the peasants when they threatened trouble. The Polish police were lenient with them since they freed them from worries and from what they considered the contemptuous job of protecting Jewish peddlers and storeowners.
“The Great Shlepper” in this story was Liebel Spojnik , who was considered the prime of all the “big porters” because he was stout and muscled. He stood up for the Jews in another way. When a famous wrestler came to town and dared anyone to fight him, Liebel’s friends urged him to take the challenge even though he was nervous about his lack of experience. The bout didn’t have a “Rocky”-like ending, but suffice it to say his performance was seen as a successful protection of “Jewish Honor.”
 
 
 

--
Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: Genealogy Brick Wall due to Name Change #ukraine

Susan&David
 


This is appears to be your man.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Name: Hersch Schneider
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Hebrew
Marital status: Single
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1885
Other Birth Place: Mieluice
Last Known Residence: Mielnice
Departure Port: Hamburg
Arrival Date: 8 Apr 1907
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: New York
Height: 5 Feet, 4 Inches
Hair Color: Black
Eye Color: Brown
Complexion: Fair
Money in Possession: 300
Person in US: Isak Schneider
Person in US Relationship: Brother
Sibling: Isak Schneider
Ship Name: Badenia


On 9/2/2022 10:34 AM, sharla.prohorne@... wrote:

Can anyone provide me with guidance on where to go from here? The Badenia did not leave Hamburg on March 29 but the Batavia did. I cannot find my Great Grandfather on the passenger list of the Badenia nor the Batavia. I also did not find him in the Ellis Island records. I suspect a name change is the issue. Sharla Horne
sharla.prohorne@...
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Re: A Polite Request #general

Adelle Gloger
 

The original post by Marilyn Robinson regarding "please" and "thank you" was something we all needed to be reminded of. Thank you Marilyn.
 Along those same lines, when someone asks for research help it does not take any effort to say "thank you" to the person who offered the help (direct private e-mail) even if nothing comes of it.
Thank you all for listening.
Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Cleveland, Ohio USA
agloger@...


Re: Request for Tombstone Translation-Hebrew #translation

fredelfruhman
 

The Tzvi-Hirsh-Harry combination (and variations) is VERY common.

When I wrote that 'Reb' is an honorific, I mean that it's a title of respect.  It does NOT mean rabbi.  While the letter Resh can also be an abbreviation for Rav, rabbi, when someone is a rabbi this is usually made more clear, by the word "haRav", the rabbi, or the abbreviation mem-vav-hey, Moreinu haRav, our teacher the rabbi.

At some point in the past, "Reb" might have meant that the person was a scholar.  However, over time it became simply a term of respect that was used for any man.  It's sort of like saying "Mister", except that the name that follows is the person's first name rather than his last.
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA

original message:

The details found by Shimon Sporn include the father's name:  Harry.

On the tombstone, the father's name is given as Tzvi.

Here is the most likely connection.   Tzvi is Hebrew for deer.  In Yiddish, dear is Hirsch/Hersh, etc.   Men with the Hebrew name Tzvi therefore often have a secular name that is a sound-alike for Hersh, such as Harry, Harold, Herbert ...
--
Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Request for signatures translation-Hebrew #translation

@Tubalcain
 

Dear JG members - I would very much appreciate a translation of the signatures below from a helpful Hebrew speaker.  
Thank you.

1/ Signature from an ancestor living in Hellering-les-Fenétranges, Moselle, France in the XVIIIth century (Simon Aron or Aron Simon ?). I was told that special characters after the signature could mean that this person was a rabbi, is it true ?

   
 





2/ Signatures at the bottom of this ketubah signed in Carpentras, France, in 1789


      
       Bruno Gourevitch
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Re: The Jews in the Well, Norwich, England #dna

GRAHAM LEWIS
 

Why would the murdered Jews have been thrown down the well, thereby poisoning it? Was this a well used exclusively by local Jews (unlikely), or the well had dried up and was no longer used?

Graham Lewis
London, UK

original message:
 

The Jews in the Well, Norwich, England

 
 

07/08/11  

There has been a lot of buzz about the remains of the bodies tossed
into a well in Norwich, England in the Middle Ages. DNA analysis of
the remains determined that the victims were undoubtedly Jewish.
Here is a link to the article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13855238

A discussion group has been started on Facebook about the mtDNA of
the Jews in the well, several of whom are in the common Ashkenazi
haplogroup K1a1b1a; the discussion relates to all Jews, as most
Ashkenazi Jews (and many non-Ashkenazim too) may descend >from this
Medieval Jewish family hypothesized to have been thrown in the well
during a pogrom in Norwich in 1190. Here is a link to the discussion
group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/247655585261008


Genealogy Brick Wall due to Name Change #ukraine

sharla.prohorne@...
 

Can anyone provide me with guidance on where to go from here? The Badenia did not leave Hamburg on March 29 but the Batavia did. I cannot find my Great Grandfather on the passenger list of the Badenia nor the Batavia. I also did not find him in the Ellis Island records. I suspect a name change is the issue.

Sharla Horne
sharla.prohorne@...