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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LERNER from Baltimore #general

Miky Skulsky <skulsky@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for may great uncle's family. His name was Jacob LERNER. He was
born in a small village called Lubakhovka, near Gorokhov in Vohlyn, now the
Ukraine. He was born abt. 1875. He lived in Baltimore Maryland with his wife
Mintse nee WASSERMAN. They had a son Eli who was married to Betty and had a
son Eugene. Jacob also had a daughter Rachel/Rose/Rae who married Norman
BISHOP and had a daughter Jody. About 30-40 years ago Norman had a grocery
store in Chattanooga Tennessee.
Any clue that will help me locate Eugene or Jody will be welcomed.

Miky Skulsky

Researching:
SKULSKI/SKULSKY >from Kozin/Berestechko Ukraine, Winnipeg Canada, NY USA
COHEN/KOJEN Kozin/Vishnevets Ukraine
KATERBURSKY/KATERBURGSKY/KATABURSKY Ukraine
LERNER Kremenets/Gorokhov/Radzivilov/Lubakhovka Ukraine
SZPRECHER/SPRECHER Vyshgorodok Ukraine, NY USA
BATZ Krasnobrod Poland, BETZ Detroit MI.


LERNER from Baltimore #general

Miky Skulsky <skulsky@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for may great uncle's family. His name was Jacob LERNER. He was
born in a small village called Lubakhovka, near Gorokhov in Vohlyn, now the
Ukraine. He was born abt. 1875. He lived in Baltimore Maryland with his wife
Mintse nee WASSERMAN. They had a son Eli who was married to Betty and had a
son Eugene. Jacob also had a daughter Rachel/Rose/Rae who married Norman
BISHOP and had a daughter Jody. About 30-40 years ago Norman had a grocery
store in Chattanooga Tennessee.
Any clue that will help me locate Eugene or Jody will be welcomed.

Miky Skulsky

Researching:
SKULSKI/SKULSKY >from Kozin/Berestechko Ukraine, Winnipeg Canada, NY USA
COHEN/KOJEN Kozin/Vishnevets Ukraine
KATERBURSKY/KATERBURGSKY/KATABURSKY Ukraine
LERNER Kremenets/Gorokhov/Radzivilov/Lubakhovka Ukraine
SZPRECHER/SPRECHER Vyshgorodok Ukraine, NY USA
BATZ Krasnobrod Poland, BETZ Detroit MI.


INTRO - College student seeking "family stories" #germany

Jamie <jamison512@...>
 

Hi,
My name is Jamie Thiel, and I live in Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA, where I am going
to college.

I am not actually looking for a specific family member, but rather for someone who
would be willing to share any personal stories with me. I really don't know much
about how much my family had to do with the war, though I know my mom's side is
originally >from Czechoslavakia, and my dad's side of the family is originally
from Germany.
I am extremely interested in anyone who might have the same last name as mine,
or close to it. I want to learn more about my family's place in all of this.
Thank you so much!

Jamie Thiel jamison512@... Klamath Falls, Oregon


German SIG #Germany INTRO - College student seeking "family stories" #germany

Jamie <jamison512@...>
 

Hi,
My name is Jamie Thiel, and I live in Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA, where I am going
to college.

I am not actually looking for a specific family member, but rather for someone who
would be willing to share any personal stories with me. I really don't know much
about how much my family had to do with the war, though I know my mom's side is
originally >from Czechoslavakia, and my dad's side of the family is originally
from Germany.
I am extremely interested in anyone who might have the same last name as mine,
or close to it. I want to learn more about my family's place in all of this.
Thank you so much!

Jamie Thiel jamison512@... Klamath Falls, Oregon


Re: Name changes at ports other than US #belarus

Gary Mokotoff (Optonline) <garymokotoff@...>
 

Roberta Sheps asks can you categorically refute the myth that names were
changed as immigrants arrived in any country in the world, not merely the
"Ellis Island myth." While it is impossible to "categorically refute" all
instances, it is highly unlikely.

Here is my conjecture:
1. Immigrants probably carried documentation as to who they were, so
immigration officials would use that documentation.
2. At least for the U.S., and probably for all countries, an official on the
ship had to prepare a list of non-citizens (immigrants) on the ship and
present it to the immigration authorities. No doubt the immigration
authorities used these lists to check off the immigrants as they
disembarked. So no immigrant official had to write down the name of the new
arrival. Note that there is no such thing as Ellis Island records of
immigrants; only ships' manifests.
2. It likely would be a crime for a government official to change the name
of a person. The implication would be that they were covering up the
identity of the person.

The Ellis Island myth was only dispelled when Marian Smith, historian of the
U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, publicly stated that she knew
of no instance where an immigrant had their name changed at Ellis Island.

Gary Mokotoff


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE:Name changes at ports other than US #belarus

Gary Mokotoff (Optonline) <garymokotoff@...>
 

Roberta Sheps asks can you categorically refute the myth that names were
changed as immigrants arrived in any country in the world, not merely the
"Ellis Island myth." While it is impossible to "categorically refute" all
instances, it is highly unlikely.

Here is my conjecture:
1. Immigrants probably carried documentation as to who they were, so
immigration officials would use that documentation.
2. At least for the U.S., and probably for all countries, an official on the
ship had to prepare a list of non-citizens (immigrants) on the ship and
present it to the immigration authorities. No doubt the immigration
authorities used these lists to check off the immigrants as they
disembarked. So no immigrant official had to write down the name of the new
arrival. Note that there is no such thing as Ellis Island records of
immigrants; only ships' manifests.
2. It likely would be a crime for a government official to change the name
of a person. The implication would be that they were covering up the
identity of the person.

The Ellis Island myth was only dispelled when Marian Smith, historian of the
U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, publicly stated that she knew
of no instance where an immigrant had their name changed at Ellis Island.

Gary Mokotoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PORGES #general

antoine porges <a.porges@...>
 

This is to inform you that the Porges families genealogy website has been
updated.

http://www.porges.net


PORGES #general

antoine porges <a.porges@...>
 

This is to inform you that the Porges families genealogy website has been
updated.

http://www.porges.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: a brick wall - Schwartz - Schmulovitz #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Doug Cohen < DMC@... > wrote:

Yehuda knew that Morris’s father, Josef Schwartz >from Scranton (also father
of Yehuda’s grandmother, Rose Schwartz Frischman) was buried on the Mount of
Olives in Jerusalem. This summer he traveled there and found his GGF’s
grave. We knew that Eva’s grandfather’s name was Yitzchak Schwartz – so we
expected the matzeiva to read “Yosef ben Yitchak” - but the inscription read
“Yosef ben Baruch”!
Looks like they’re not first cousins – and Yehuda and I aren’t third
cousins. But we’re confident there’s a relationship – somehow.
Don't base too much on the one inscription. It's still possible that
they were first cousins. There are several scenarios, including:
1) the stone-mason made a mistake
2) the person who ordered the stone made a mistake
3) the source for Eva's grandfather's name made a mistake
4) there was one person with two names, Yitzchak and Baruch
5) they were cousins through Morris's mother, not through his father.

Robert Israel
mailto:israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Re: a brick wall - Schwartz - Schmulovitz #hungary

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Doug Cohen < DMC@... > wrote:

Yehuda knew that Morris’s father, Josef Schwartz >from Scranton (also father
of Yehuda’s grandmother, Rose Schwartz Frischman) was buried on the Mount of
Olives in Jerusalem. This summer he traveled there and found his GGF’s
grave. We knew that Eva’s grandfather’s name was Yitzchak Schwartz – so we
expected the matzeiva to read “Yosef ben Yitchak” - but the inscription read
“Yosef ben Baruch”!
Looks like they’re not first cousins – and Yehuda and I aren’t third
cousins. But we’re confident there’s a relationship – somehow.
Don't base too much on the one inscription. It's still possible that
they were first cousins. There are several scenarios, including:
1) the stone-mason made a mistake
2) the person who ordered the stone made a mistake
3) the source for Eva's grandfather's name made a mistake
4) there was one person with two names, Yitzchak and Baruch
5) they were cousins through Morris's mother, not through his father.

Robert Israel
mailto:israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


January meeting JGSPBCI #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County Inc.
January Meeting
Date: January 12, 2005
Place: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach
Time: 12:30 PM: Registration, Networking and brick wall session
1:00 pm: program, followed by short business meeting

Program: "American popular culture: a Jewish creation? How and why?

Hersh L. Adlerstein, adjunct professor at Florida International University,
will trace the contribution of Jewish immigrants to the American theater,
arts, movies, and literature. Adlerstein received his M.A. in Comparative
Literature >from the University of Montreal, and did post-graduate studies at
New York University and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He has spent
most of his professional life in community and human relations, and has
taught at national and local venues.
Come early for the new Brick Wall Session (12:30-1:00PM)
Have you hit a brick wall in your research? Learn more about our new help
program. Bring one item that has stumped you to the next meeting.
Call your question in advance to the Program Chairman, Harvey Brown,
torbro4@...

Questions posed during the session will be addressed by our team of experts
at the next monthly meeting between 12:30 PM and 1:00 PM.

Upcoming Events:

Annual Luncheon
January 30, 2005
Marriott Hotel, West Palm Beach.
Guest Speaker: Miriam Weiner, noted author and international researcher.
Topic: "Looking Back & Looking Forward"
An acclaimed lecturer throughout the United States and abroad, Ms Weiner is
the author of Jewish Roots in Poland and Jewish Roots in Ukraine and
Moldova. She is co-editor of The Encyclopedia of Jewish Genealogy, founder
and president of Routes to Roots Foundation, and creator of the Eastern
European Archival Database, which includes Jewish and civil records from
archives in Belarus, Lithuania, Poland, Moldova and Ukraine.

Door prizes will be offered as well as "goodie" bags for everyone!
For further information contact: Natalie Hamburg jakies51@... or
Betty Perloe bnp1925@...

JGSPBCI Mini-Conference
Wednesday, February 23, 2005
Beifield Auditorium, Sandler Center for Jewish Life Enhancement
Levis Jewish Community Center Campus, Boca Raton, Florida
Registration 8:30 AM, Lectures 9 AM - 5 PM.; Kosher Box Lunch and IAJGS
Award Winning Workbook included in fees; guest speakers, Door Prize.
Resource Room and Plough Library staffed by our member volunteers.
Schoolroom style seating, make your reservations early!
Applications will be available at the January monthly meeting
Contact Sylvia Nusinov, Chairperson curiousyl@... or
Alfred M. Silberfeld, ASilberf@...

Our redesigned Website is now online: www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org
Webmaster: jsfine@...

New Library Schedule:
Our Library Collection is available by appointment only Monday through
Friday 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM. It is closed on the third Monday of each month
after1:00 PM. For an appointment and directions contact:
Ben Karliner (Delray Beach) benkarliner@...
Jerry Dresner (Lake Worth) idajer@...
Wilma Freedman (Boca Raton) wiljune46@...

The Library is located at the Rose Merry L. Plough Media Resource and
Reading Center, Sandler Center for Jewish Life Enhancement at the Levis
Jewish Community Center campus, 95th Avenue South (off Glades Rd.) Boca
Raton, Florida.

Our Very best Wishes for A Happy and Healthy New Year!

Dennis Rice, President dtigers@...
Jacqueline Fineblit, E-mail Coordinator jsfine@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen January meeting JGSPBCI #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County Inc.
January Meeting
Date: January 12, 2005
Place: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach
Time: 12:30 PM: Registration, Networking and brick wall session
1:00 pm: program, followed by short business meeting

Program: "American popular culture: a Jewish creation? How and why?

Hersh L. Adlerstein, adjunct professor at Florida International University,
will trace the contribution of Jewish immigrants to the American theater,
arts, movies, and literature. Adlerstein received his M.A. in Comparative
Literature >from the University of Montreal, and did post-graduate studies at
New York University and the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He has spent
most of his professional life in community and human relations, and has
taught at national and local venues.
Come early for the new Brick Wall Session (12:30-1:00PM)
Have you hit a brick wall in your research? Learn more about our new help
program. Bring one item that has stumped you to the next meeting.
Call your question in advance to the Program Chairman, Harvey Brown,
torbro4@...

Questions posed during the session will be addressed by our team of experts
at the next monthly meeting between 12:30 PM and 1:00 PM.

Upcoming Events:

Annual Luncheon
January 30, 2005
Marriott Hotel, West Palm Beach.
Guest Speaker: Miriam Weiner, noted author and international researcher.
Topic: "Looking Back & Looking Forward"
An acclaimed lecturer throughout the United States and abroad, Ms Weiner is
the author of Jewish Roots in Poland and Jewish Roots in Ukraine and
Moldova. She is co-editor of The Encyclopedia of Jewish Genealogy, founder
and president of Routes to Roots Foundation, and creator of the Eastern
European Archival Database, which includes Jewish and civil records from
archives in Belarus, Lithuania, Poland, Moldova and Ukraine.

Door prizes will be offered as well as "goodie" bags for everyone!
For further information contact: Natalie Hamburg jakies51@... or
Betty Perloe bnp1925@...

JGSPBCI Mini-Conference
Wednesday, February 23, 2005
Beifield Auditorium, Sandler Center for Jewish Life Enhancement
Levis Jewish Community Center Campus, Boca Raton, Florida
Registration 8:30 AM, Lectures 9 AM - 5 PM.; Kosher Box Lunch and IAJGS
Award Winning Workbook included in fees; guest speakers, Door Prize.
Resource Room and Plough Library staffed by our member volunteers.
Schoolroom style seating, make your reservations early!
Applications will be available at the January monthly meeting
Contact Sylvia Nusinov, Chairperson curiousyl@... or
Alfred M. Silberfeld, ASilberf@...

Our redesigned Website is now online: www.jgspalmbeachcounty.org
Webmaster: jsfine@...

New Library Schedule:
Our Library Collection is available by appointment only Monday through
Friday 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM. It is closed on the third Monday of each month
after1:00 PM. For an appointment and directions contact:
Ben Karliner (Delray Beach) benkarliner@...
Jerry Dresner (Lake Worth) idajer@...
Wilma Freedman (Boca Raton) wiljune46@...

The Library is located at the Rose Merry L. Plough Media Resource and
Reading Center, Sandler Center for Jewish Life Enhancement at the Levis
Jewish Community Center campus, 95th Avenue South (off Glades Rd.) Boca
Raton, Florida.

Our Very best Wishes for A Happy and Healthy New Year!

Dennis Rice, President dtigers@...
Jacqueline Fineblit, E-mail Coordinator jsfine@...


Help in finding family name #belarus

Karen Zale
 

I need help in trying to find what the family name
ZALEFSKY might have been in Shereshov, Poland. I
have tried to find information and as yet have been
unable to. I have the following information:
Abraham ZALEFSKY married Freida, they had the
following children:

1. Sam ZALEFSKY b. 1868 Shereshov, d. 1957 Ft. Worth,
TX.
Married Libby KRUGER (Leeba KRUGERMAN) b. 1878
Shereshov, d 1942 FT. Worth, TX. Parents Herschel and
Bayta KRUGERMAN, Shereshov

2. Harry (Hershel) ZALEFSKY b. 1880 Shereshov, d. 1952
Brooklyn, NY.
Married Pauline (Peshy) RITEMAN/REITMAN about
1906, Shereshov. Parents Louis (Arye Leib) b. about
1850 and Rachel b. about 1855 RITEMAN/REITMAN married
about 1873 in Shereshov.

3. Sara Esther ZALEFSKY b. about 1882 Shereshov, d.
Brooklyn, NY.
Married Sam (Shlioma) POLLACK b. about 1881
married about 1904 Shereshov. Parents Iser and Esher
POLCHINKA

According to Harry ZALEFSKY’s Declaration of
Intention for Naturalization he arrived in New York on
Sept. 16, 1910 on the ship Nieuw Amsterdam. His wife
Pauline came a few years later with their two small
sons. I don’t know the year when Sam and Libby
ZALEFSKY arrived. There are so many years between the
birth of Sam 1868, and Harry 1880, that I feel there
must have been other children that did not come to
this country. I also do not know the year that Sara
Esther and Sam POLLACK came to the US. There is not
any information on the Ellis Island web site for any
of the family arriving. If anyone has an idea of what
our name might have been it would be greatly
appreciated.

Please respond privately to Karen ZALE Plano, TX
kbzpzq@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Help in finding family name #belarus

Karen Zale
 

I need help in trying to find what the family name
ZALEFSKY might have been in Shereshov, Poland. I
have tried to find information and as yet have been
unable to. I have the following information:
Abraham ZALEFSKY married Freida, they had the
following children:

1. Sam ZALEFSKY b. 1868 Shereshov, d. 1957 Ft. Worth,
TX.
Married Libby KRUGER (Leeba KRUGERMAN) b. 1878
Shereshov, d 1942 FT. Worth, TX. Parents Herschel and
Bayta KRUGERMAN, Shereshov

2. Harry (Hershel) ZALEFSKY b. 1880 Shereshov, d. 1952
Brooklyn, NY.
Married Pauline (Peshy) RITEMAN/REITMAN about
1906, Shereshov. Parents Louis (Arye Leib) b. about
1850 and Rachel b. about 1855 RITEMAN/REITMAN married
about 1873 in Shereshov.

3. Sara Esther ZALEFSKY b. about 1882 Shereshov, d.
Brooklyn, NY.
Married Sam (Shlioma) POLLACK b. about 1881
married about 1904 Shereshov. Parents Iser and Esher
POLCHINKA

According to Harry ZALEFSKY’s Declaration of
Intention for Naturalization he arrived in New York on
Sept. 16, 1910 on the ship Nieuw Amsterdam. His wife
Pauline came a few years later with their two small
sons. I don’t know the year when Sam and Libby
ZALEFSKY arrived. There are so many years between the
birth of Sam 1868, and Harry 1880, that I feel there
must have been other children that did not come to
this country. I also do not know the year that Sara
Esther and Sam POLLACK came to the US. There is not
any information on the Ellis Island web site for any
of the family arriving. If anyone has an idea of what
our name might have been it would be greatly
appreciated.

Please respond privately to Karen ZALE Plano, TX
kbzpzq@...


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Yitzhak Isaac MOSKOWITS of Montreal #rabbinic

Nathan Rosenshein <nrosen@...>
 

We are related to Rabbi MOSKOWITS of Maor Hagola, Montreal, through
the APPELDORFER or EISDORFER family.

Although I have information on all the branches, I have not yet been
able to connect the dots, as there is missing information.

Can anyone help? I would be glad to exchange information or help you
in your research if I can!

Thanks in advance.

Nathan Rosenshein, Montreal, Canada

Researching:
Rabbi Yitzchak Isaac WEISS of Svaliava, UKR (the Bais Yitzchok);
Rabbi Isaac MOSKOWITS; Munkatcher Rebbe; Chuster Rebbe; Tosher Rebbe
(LOWY); GOLDENBERG Rabbinic Family of Svaliava, Ukr. -- >from the
Carpathian Mountain Area


R' Yitzhak Isaac MOSKOWITS of Montreal #rabbinic

Nathan Rosenshein <nrosen@...>
 

We are related to Rabbi MOSKOWITS of Maor Hagola, Montreal, through
the APPELDORFER or EISDORFER family.

Although I have information on all the branches, I have not yet been
able to connect the dots, as there is missing information.

Can anyone help? I would be glad to exchange information or help you
in your research if I can!

Thanks in advance.

Nathan Rosenshein, Montreal, Canada

Researching:
Rabbi Yitzchak Isaac WEISS of Svaliava, UKR (the Bais Yitzchok);
Rabbi Isaac MOSKOWITS; Munkatcher Rebbe; Chuster Rebbe; Tosher Rebbe
(LOWY); GOLDENBERG Rabbinic Family of Svaliava, Ukr. -- >from the
Carpathian Mountain Area


Gold's book on Bohemia #austria-czech

Joyce Field
 

Ruth Coman asked about translated chapters >from Gold's book on Bohemia.

Gold's book on Bukowina is being translated chapter by chapter, and
the translations are online at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Bukowinabook/bukowina.html >.

We would be glad to have the Bohemia book translations online at the
yizkor book site, also. Please submit translations in MS WORD as
email attachments with a donor agreement, which can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/donation >.

It would be most helpful if someone would translate the table of
contents so we can link translated chapters to it.

Please contact me privately.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Although Bukovina was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until
1918, it is now partly in Romania and partly in Ukraine, and therefore outside our
SIG's geographical area of interest.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Gold's book on Bohemia #austria-czech

Joyce Field
 

Ruth Coman asked about translated chapters >from Gold's book on Bohemia.

Gold's book on Bukowina is being translated chapter by chapter, and
the translations are online at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Bukowinabook/bukowina.html >.

We would be glad to have the Bohemia book translations online at the
yizkor book site, also. Please submit translations in MS WORD as
email attachments with a donor agreement, which can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/donation >.

It would be most helpful if someone would translate the table of
contents so we can link translated chapters to it.

Please contact me privately.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Although Bukovina was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until
1918, it is now partly in Romania and partly in Ukraine, and therefore outside our
SIG's geographical area of interest.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Uncooperative relatives #general

David Kravitz
 

Genealogy is a very subjective matter. What we find interesting is mostly a
total bore to others. Attend any genealogy meeting and most speakers talk
only about their own experiences, others waiting anxiously to put forward
their own highly personal stories, often uninterested in what the current
speaker is saying. It took me 25 years to fully compile my own family tree
and I try not to talk genealogy in groups where few are into the subject.
I have only researched one side of my family (with Kravitz blood or directly
married to Kravitz blood) and I have absolutely no interest in pursuing the
other line.
This is my choice. I have also tried not to get involved with a few people
over the years who want to link me to their family tree through an obscure
marriage link. My "pure" tree has about 500-600 names and one (American) lady
some years ago offered me her 5000 plus tree simply because her cousin (two or
three times removed) married my first cousin. Another claimed a relationship
via some link even more obscure, perhaps the same postman?

It cannot be unusual that many family members do not want to share their
family history with complete strangers claiming to be long lost relatives.
If they had the remotest interest in genealogy they would probably have
found you long ago. It may be a family squabble in the past, more likely
total apathy towards a highly emotional but personal hobby. Accept and
appreciate their position may conflict with yours.


David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


Uncooperative relatives #general

David Kravitz
 

Genealogy is a very subjective matter. What we find interesting is mostly a
total bore to others. Attend any genealogy meeting and most speakers talk
only about their own experiences, others waiting anxiously to put forward
their own highly personal stories, often uninterested in what the current
speaker is saying. It took me 25 years to fully compile my own family tree
and I try not to talk genealogy in groups where few are into the subject.
I have only researched one side of my family (with Kravitz blood or directly
married to Kravitz blood) and I have absolutely no interest in pursuing the
other line.
This is my choice. I have also tried not to get involved with a few people
over the years who want to link me to their family tree through an obscure
marriage link. My "pure" tree has about 500-600 names and one (American) lady
some years ago offered me her 5000 plus tree simply because her cousin (two or
three times removed) married my first cousin. Another claimed a relationship
via some link even more obscure, perhaps the same postman?

It cannot be unusual that many family members do not want to share their
family history with complete strangers claiming to be long lost relatives.
If they had the remotest interest in genealogy they would probably have
found you long ago. It may be a family squabble in the past, more likely
total apathy towards a highly emotional but personal hobby. Accept and
appreciate their position may conflict with yours.


David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel