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Re: The Kohen sign #general

PJL427@...
 

I have often wondered what the Kohanim Heredity would be in the situation where:
1. A child was adopted by a Kohain -- father >from a family which were not Kohains
or the heredity (yichus) of the father was not established. or
2. When a child was the the product of an involuntary rape, as in a pogrom,
by a christian rapist. It was generally accustomed to accept the child as the
child of both parents. the child was not considered a bastard (mamzir). The
Jewish Heredity was assured by the mother. Since, it was not always possible to
determine the father of child after a women in village or Jewish place were
attacked and pillaged by christians, would the child be considered to have been a
Kohain in this situation?

Phil Leonard
Austin, TX
In a message dated 7/22/04 9:00:17 AM, MBernet@aol.com writes:
Recent DNA research suggests that the vast majority of reputed Kohanim do indeed
have a common ancestor >from the time of Aaron haKohen, 33 centuries ago; the small
percentage that do not are probably descended >from rape victims (It is
halakhically imperative for a Jew to accept as his own descendant a child born as
the result of rape of his wife).>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Kohen sign #general

PJL427@...
 

I have often wondered what the Kohanim Heredity would be in the situation where:
1. A child was adopted by a Kohain -- father >from a family which were not Kohains
or the heredity (yichus) of the father was not established. or
2. When a child was the the product of an involuntary rape, as in a pogrom,
by a christian rapist. It was generally accustomed to accept the child as the
child of both parents. the child was not considered a bastard (mamzir). The
Jewish Heredity was assured by the mother. Since, it was not always possible to
determine the father of child after a women in village or Jewish place were
attacked and pillaged by christians, would the child be considered to have been a
Kohain in this situation?

Phil Leonard
Austin, TX
In a message dated 7/22/04 9:00:17 AM, MBernet@aol.com writes:
Recent DNA research suggests that the vast majority of reputed Kohanim do indeed
have a common ancestor >from the time of Aaron haKohen, 33 centuries ago; the small
percentage that do not are probably descended >from rape victims (It is
halakhically imperative for a Jew to accept as his own descendant a child born as
the result of rape of his wife).>


Stone Translation Fanny ROSENBERG #general

B Kaye <belinda_kaye@...>
 

Dear All
A very big thank you to everyone who responded to my request. I am overwhelmed by
the emails I have received. I have tried to thank everyone personally. Although I
have had many different interpretations I have found the discussion very
interesting. I am taking the very good advice and I am trying to locate the
resting place of Fanny here in the Uk.
Belinda Kaye
London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Stone Translation Fanny ROSENBERG #general

B Kaye <belinda_kaye@...>
 

Dear All
A very big thank you to everyone who responded to my request. I am overwhelmed by
the emails I have received. I have tried to thank everyone personally. Although I
have had many different interpretations I have found the discussion very
interesting. I am taking the very good advice and I am trying to locate the
resting place of Fanny here in the Uk.
Belinda Kaye
London


EPSTEIN from Liverpool #general

GSEaston@...
 

I'm still searching for the family of Zolnick EPSTEIN >from Liverpool, England in
the early 1900's. Zolnick and his wife had several children including Doris,
Frieda, Isaac, Rebecca, Belle, ad another daughter.

His father's name was Jacob. Possible >from Minsk. His siblings, who came to
America (many of whom ended up in Chicago) included Samuel, Sophie, Doris,
Morris....

Any connections?

Glenn Easton
Chevy Chase, MD
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EPSTEIN from Liverpool #general

GSEaston@...
 

I'm still searching for the family of Zolnick EPSTEIN >from Liverpool, England in
the early 1900's. Zolnick and his wife had several children including Doris,
Frieda, Isaac, Rebecca, Belle, ad another daughter.

His father's name was Jacob. Possible >from Minsk. His siblings, who came to
America (many of whom ended up in Chicago) included Samuel, Sophie, Doris,
Morris....

Any connections?

Glenn Easton
Chevy Chase, MD
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Looking for LEVIN Relatives #general

Marty Levin <mjl78@...>
 

Trying to build a family tree for the LEVIN family. My grandfather was born in
the 1880's in Manchester, England. His name was Joseph LEVIN. He had a sister
born later, named Rachael. Joseph married Mary SILVERMAN in the early 1900's.
They had two sons, Henry, born in 1913, and Nathan (my dad), born in 1915. They
came to the US and settled in the New York City area. The only other relative I
remember is an Uncle Lou and a cousin Eric, who settled in Toronto.

Marty Levin
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for LEVIN Relatives #general

Marty Levin <mjl78@...>
 

Trying to build a family tree for the LEVIN family. My grandfather was born in
the 1880's in Manchester, England. His name was Joseph LEVIN. He had a sister
born later, named Rachael. Joseph married Mary SILVERMAN in the early 1900's.
They had two sons, Henry, born in 1913, and Nathan (my dad), born in 1915. They
came to the US and settled in the New York City area. The only other relative I
remember is an Uncle Lou and a cousin Eric, who settled in Toronto.

Marty Levin
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Searching BRUSILOVSKY Kiev/Chernobyl Ukraine 1904 #general

lrbackman@...
 

Hello,

I am searching for the name of the shtetl of my paternal grandparents. Their name
is BRUSILOVSKY. We were always told they came >from a shtetl between Kiev and
Chernobyl, but closer to Chernobyl Jacob BRUSILOVSKY left the Ukraine and arrived
in NY in 1904. Within a year he settled in Pueblo, CO, and my grandmother,
Bessie, joined him. I am wondering if the name Brusilovsky is related to the
town of Brusilov.
I would appreciate any information as I am planning to travel to the Ukraine in
2005.

Thank you,

Linda Slosky (Brusilovsky) Backman
Boulder, Colorado
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching BRUSILOVSKY Kiev/Chernobyl Ukraine 1904 #general

lrbackman@...
 

Hello,

I am searching for the name of the shtetl of my paternal grandparents. Their name
is BRUSILOVSKY. We were always told they came >from a shtetl between Kiev and
Chernobyl, but closer to Chernobyl Jacob BRUSILOVSKY left the Ukraine and arrived
in NY in 1904. Within a year he settled in Pueblo, CO, and my grandmother,
Bessie, joined him. I am wondering if the name Brusilovsky is related to the
town of Brusilov.
I would appreciate any information as I am planning to travel to the Ukraine in
2005.

Thank you,

Linda Slosky (Brusilovsky) Backman
Boulder, Colorado
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YONAS Family from Czarny Dunajec, Poland #general

van-raalte
 

Dear Genners,

I sent a request on my mother's family Rivka SUFRIN-YONAS. Now I add a request on
my fathers family:

My father, Josef YONAS z"l, son of Gershon YONAS and Sala (Sara) SHTILER, came
from the shtetle Czarny Dunajec, Poland. He had one brother Doleck and two
sisters: Yula and Lieka (lea?). As I know, all of them were killed by the Natzis
(but my father kept looking for them all his life).
My father was born in the year 1920 (or 1921), and in 1939 he was a student in the
Technikum in Krakow (studied electricity). In the very beginning of the 2 WW he
joined the polish army and fought against the Nazis until he was wounded in Berlin
front ( was the end of the war). He was evacuated to a polish hospital there he
recovered after a year. Later he met and married my mother, Rivka SUFRIN and
together they came to Israel.
My grand father Gershon YONAS had a bakery in Czarny Dunajec and also dealt with
tobacco. I have no knowledge about his family, accept they came to Poland >from
Hungary.
I know about four survivors of the YONAS family:
YONAS Yosef married with Helen, lived in NY after the 2 WW.
YONAS Romeck (Roman) lived in NY after the 2 WW.
TIENDLIICH Samek , lived in NY after the 2 WW.
YONAS- uncle or cousin, lived in Hungary after the 2 WW.

Can anybody help me to find them and their descendants?

I will appreciate any information on my ancestors and descendants.

Please be in touch with me privately.

Thanks,
Sara Van-Raalte
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen YONAS Family from Czarny Dunajec, Poland #general

van-raalte
 

Dear Genners,

I sent a request on my mother's family Rivka SUFRIN-YONAS. Now I add a request on
my fathers family:

My father, Josef YONAS z"l, son of Gershon YONAS and Sala (Sara) SHTILER, came
from the shtetle Czarny Dunajec, Poland. He had one brother Doleck and two
sisters: Yula and Lieka (lea?). As I know, all of them were killed by the Natzis
(but my father kept looking for them all his life).
My father was born in the year 1920 (or 1921), and in 1939 he was a student in the
Technikum in Krakow (studied electricity). In the very beginning of the 2 WW he
joined the polish army and fought against the Nazis until he was wounded in Berlin
front ( was the end of the war). He was evacuated to a polish hospital there he
recovered after a year. Later he met and married my mother, Rivka SUFRIN and
together they came to Israel.
My grand father Gershon YONAS had a bakery in Czarny Dunajec and also dealt with
tobacco. I have no knowledge about his family, accept they came to Poland >from
Hungary.
I know about four survivors of the YONAS family:
YONAS Yosef married with Helen, lived in NY after the 2 WW.
YONAS Romeck (Roman) lived in NY after the 2 WW.
TIENDLIICH Samek , lived in NY after the 2 WW.
YONAS- uncle or cousin, lived in Hungary after the 2 WW.

Can anybody help me to find them and their descendants?

I will appreciate any information on my ancestors and descendants.

Please be in touch with me privately.

Thanks,
Sara Van-Raalte
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SUFRIN, FENSTER/Tyczyn, Poland,GLANSBERG/Ulanow, PERLMUTER/Tarnobrzeg #general

van-raalte
 

Hello Genners.
I am looking for SUFRIN and FENSTER families >from Tyczyn, Poland. my mother, Rivka
Sufrin-Yonas was born in Rozadow, Poland, in 1924 to Nathan SUFRIN and Golda
FELSEN. my grandfather (Nathen Sufrin) was born in 1899 to Taube Necha SUFRIN and
Shmuel Josef FENSTER. both of them came >from Tyczyn.
back at home my grand father, Nathan z"l, learend in Blashow Yeshiva and was
mobilized to the army in the first WW. aftre the war he married Golda and had a
business of wine and tabacco in Rozwadow. He survived the Holocaust and came to
Israel with his three daughters: Hanna z"l, Ester and Rivka, my mother. my grand
father z"l, lived and died in Lod. Shmuel Josef FENSTER died during the the first
WW. he was a sochat and cantor and a very religious Hassid. >from my mother's
stories i understand that he were seldome at home- he always were out, learnig in
a Hassidish court and came seldom home for a shechita on saturday evenings. he was
married twice-my grand grand mother was his second wife, i don't know the name
of his first wife. my mother told me that >from his first marriage he had 3
chidren: two boys and one girl. the sons left Poland soon after he married my grad
grand mother and went to U.S. as far as i know the daughter remained in Poland- my
grand father Nathan used to visit her >from time to time (before the second WW).
Nathan was the only child of Taube Necha SUFRIN and Shmuel Josef FENSTER. as a
child she left Poland, with here elder sisters to Munchen, Germeny. as a young
woman she came back to Tyczyn (where she was born?) and married Shmuel Josef
FENSTER. after shmuel josef died she married PERLMUTER >from Tarnobrzeg, where they
lived. later she moved to Rozwadow to her son, Nathan. i know she had a cousin,
Hannele GLANSBERG in Ulanow.

Can anyone help me with information about SUFRIN, FENSTER, GLANSBERG,
PERLMUTER back in Poland and Munchen? what happend to them in the holocaust?
their descendants anywhere?

please be in touch with me privately.
thanks,
Sara Van-Raalte


Hurwitz / Gurvich #lithuania

J.S. Winston <jswinston@...>
 

Can someone tell me how to find information on these two names. Are they
interchangeable?

My Great grandfather came >from Possvol and the family entered the US in
1891 as Hurwitz about 1900 the records(census) show the change to
Horwitz. The records I have received >from the archive in Vilnia have the
name as Gurvich.

As I said can anyone tell me how this works or where to look for
answers?

Please answer to my email address. jswinston@net-magic.net

Thank you


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SUFRIN, FENSTER/Tyczyn, Poland,GLANSBERG/Ulanow, PERLMUTER/Tarnobrzeg #general

van-raalte
 

Hello Genners.
I am looking for SUFRIN and FENSTER families >from Tyczyn, Poland. my mother, Rivka
Sufrin-Yonas was born in Rozadow, Poland, in 1924 to Nathan SUFRIN and Golda
FELSEN. my grandfather (Nathen Sufrin) was born in 1899 to Taube Necha SUFRIN and
Shmuel Josef FENSTER. both of them came >from Tyczyn.
back at home my grand father, Nathan z"l, learend in Blashow Yeshiva and was
mobilized to the army in the first WW. aftre the war he married Golda and had a
business of wine and tabacco in Rozwadow. He survived the Holocaust and came to
Israel with his three daughters: Hanna z"l, Ester and Rivka, my mother. my grand
father z"l, lived and died in Lod. Shmuel Josef FENSTER died during the the first
WW. he was a sochat and cantor and a very religious Hassid. >from my mother's
stories i understand that he were seldome at home- he always were out, learnig in
a Hassidish court and came seldom home for a shechita on saturday evenings. he was
married twice-my grand grand mother was his second wife, i don't know the name
of his first wife. my mother told me that >from his first marriage he had 3
chidren: two boys and one girl. the sons left Poland soon after he married my grad
grand mother and went to U.S. as far as i know the daughter remained in Poland- my
grand father Nathan used to visit her >from time to time (before the second WW).
Nathan was the only child of Taube Necha SUFRIN and Shmuel Josef FENSTER. as a
child she left Poland, with here elder sisters to Munchen, Germeny. as a young
woman she came back to Tyczyn (where she was born?) and married Shmuel Josef
FENSTER. after shmuel josef died she married PERLMUTER >from Tarnobrzeg, where they
lived. later she moved to Rozwadow to her son, Nathan. i know she had a cousin,
Hannele GLANSBERG in Ulanow.

Can anyone help me with information about SUFRIN, FENSTER, GLANSBERG,
PERLMUTER back in Poland and Munchen? what happend to them in the holocaust?
their descendants anywhere?

please be in touch with me privately.
thanks,
Sara Van-Raalte


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Hurwitz / Gurvich #lithuania

J.S. Winston <jswinston@...>
 

Can someone tell me how to find information on these two names. Are they
interchangeable?

My Great grandfather came >from Possvol and the family entered the US in
1891 as Hurwitz about 1900 the records(census) show the change to
Horwitz. The records I have received >from the archive in Vilnia have the
name as Gurvich.

As I said can anyone tell me how this works or where to look for
answers?

Please answer to my email address. jswinston@net-magic.net

Thank you


Identifying residence: Willa Otwocka Elzbieta #poland

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

In a search of the Monitor Polski Court announcements, I have come
across a person whose residence is given as: Willa Otwocka Elzbieta
(with a dotted z).

Can someone please help me understand the meaning of this place of
residence?

Perets Mett
London


Translation help needed #poland

Herman Lewis <hllewis@...>
 

I would appreciate a translation of the marriage record of Nochim
Yankiel Wierzbowicz to Etka Podosek as registered in 1894 in Nowogrod.
The image is posted at VM4358 and can be viewed directly at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4358
Please send responses directly to me. Thank you.

--
Herman Lewis
hllewis@ix.netcom.com


JRI Poland #Poland Identifying residence: Willa Otwocka Elzbieta #poland

Perets Mett <p.mett@...>
 

In a search of the Monitor Polski Court announcements, I have come
across a person whose residence is given as: Willa Otwocka Elzbieta
(with a dotted z).

Can someone please help me understand the meaning of this place of
residence?

Perets Mett
London


JRI Poland #Poland Translation help needed #poland

Herman Lewis <hllewis@...>
 

I would appreciate a translation of the marriage record of Nochim
Yankiel Wierzbowicz to Etka Podosek as registered in 1894 in Nowogrod.
The image is posted at VM4358 and can be viewed directly at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4358
Please send responses directly to me. Thank you.

--
Herman Lewis
hllewis@ix.netcom.com