MODERATOR NOTE: We do NOT usually post routine JGS meeting notices *** except ***
meetings whose topic is specific to German Jewish Genealogy.
Notices which are *** not *** specific to our topic should be
sent instead to the JGDG (JewishGen Forum) I'm posting the
following because I don't remember hearing >from this particular JGS before.
GerSig members who wish to receive future announcements >from the Hamilton Ontario
JGS shold contact the sender of this message privately. ====>

When: November 10, 2004 at 7:30 PM

Where: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Program: We're happy to welcome Michelle Gold as our speaker.
Michelle has travelled extensively overseas and will be sharing
insights >from her most recent trip. Her topic is entitled
"Budapest, Vienna & Prague: A Jewish Tour". If you've considered
a similar trip to research your family or if you're interested in hearing
about the present and past Jewish presence in these cities,
you'll want to hear Michelle speak.

Is taking the next step to trace your Great Grandmother confusing
or frustrating? Have any of your ancestral lines slowed you
down? Is there an Internet site that confuses you? Bring your
specific research questions to our next meetings (Nov. 10th &
Dec. 1st). Present them verbally, in writing, by email or phone
and Ralph Bloch will look for a solution and then present it at
our first meeting of 2005 on January 12th. Of course in the
meantime we'll see what our panel of experts can do with
questions >from the floor. They'll tackle these after the speaker
at each of the next two meetings. This panel discussion will
replace the Special Interest Groups that used to meet after each speaker.

For further information please email at: HamiltonJewishGen@...

Ina Levitt-Yanover Newsletter Editor Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area

MODERATOR NOTE: We do NOT usually post routine JGS meeting notices *** except ***
meetings whose topic is specific to German Jewish Genealogy.
Notices which are *** not *** specific to our topic should be
sent instead to the JGDG (JewishGen Forum) I'm posting the
following because I don't remember hearing >from this particular JGS before.
GerSig members who wish to receive future announcements >from the Hamilton Ontario
JGS shold contact the sender of this message privately. ====>

When: November 10, 2004 at 7:30 PM

Where: Temple Anshe Sholom
215 Cline Avenue North, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Program: We're happy to welcome Michelle Gold as our speaker.
Michelle has travelled extensively overseas and will be sharing
insights >from her most recent trip. Her topic is entitled
"Budapest, Vienna & Prague: A Jewish Tour". If you've considered
a similar trip to research your family or if you're interested in hearing
about the present and past Jewish presence in these cities,
you'll want to hear Michelle speak.

Is taking the next step to trace your Great Grandmother confusing
or frustrating? Have any of your ancestral lines slowed you
down? Is there an Internet site that confuses you? Bring your
specific research questions to our next meetings (Nov. 10th &
Dec. 1st). Present them verbally, in writing, by email or phone
and Ralph Bloch will look for a solution and then present it at
our first meeting of 2005 on January 12th. Of course in the
meantime we'll see what our panel of experts can do with
questions >from the floor. They'll tackle these after the speaker
at each of the next two meetings. This panel discussion will
replace the Special Interest Groups that used to meet after each speaker.

For further information please email at: HamiltonJewishGen@...

Ina Levitt-Yanover Newsletter Editor Jewish Genealogical Society - Hamilton & Area

"Berneman Lazare" <lazare.berneman@...> wrote

Hello to all of you I need help to find details on the village Skidel I think
Russia

Hi,

Skidel is in Belarus.
There are 110 entries for this shtetl in JGFF database.

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

"Berneman Lazare" <lazare.berneman@...> wrote

Hello to all of you I need help to find details on the village Skidel I think
Russia

Hi,

Skidel is in Belarus.
There are 110 entries for this shtetl in JGFF database.

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

I am searching for cousins whose father was Gustave GOLDSTEIN >from Hungary:
Leonard GOLDSTEIN and Elsa nee' GOLDSTEIN

Or even their mother Helen GOLDSTEIN. They would be middle aged at least.

Do you know any GOLDSTEIN's? Please find out if they know of these people or
anyone who may be related to them. (please respond privately)

Thank you,
Peter E. Sices, South Bend IN
(TIZES; EDELMAN, GOLDSTEIN, FRIEDMAN; BRAUN; SCHOEN)
***
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Chances of success in your research will be greatly enhanced if
you register the name(s) you are searching for in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Go to www.jewishgen.org/jgff

Am researching the ORENSHTEYN (ARENSTEIN?) family originally >from Gargzdai
(Gorzd), Lithuania. My great-grandmother was Zyse ORENSHTEYN, born roughly in
1860, and married Shmuel PLATUS, also of Gorzd. Zyse eventually moved >from Gorzd
to Raanana, Israel in 1933 where she died in 1953. Zyse's sister was Rosa/Reisel
and married a man named BURSTEIN, and she eventually moved to Haifa where she
died.

My understanding is that many ORENSHTEYNs also settled in South Africa. Any help
is appreciated.

Please respond privately to: jrplatt@...
James Platt
***
MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget to list your
surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

I am searching for cousins whose father was Gustave GOLDSTEIN >from Hungary:
Leonard GOLDSTEIN and Elsa nee' GOLDSTEIN

Or even their mother Helen GOLDSTEIN. They would be middle aged at least.

Do you know any GOLDSTEIN's? Please find out if they know of these people or
anyone who may be related to them. (please respond privately)

Thank you,
Peter E. Sices, South Bend IN
(TIZES; EDELMAN, GOLDSTEIN, FRIEDMAN; BRAUN; SCHOEN)
***
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Chances of success in your research will be greatly enhanced if
you register the name(s) you are searching for in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Go to www.jewishgen.org/jgff

Am researching the ORENSHTEYN (ARENSTEIN?) family originally >from Gargzdai
(Gorzd), Lithuania. My great-grandmother was Zyse ORENSHTEYN, born roughly in
1860, and married Shmuel PLATUS, also of Gorzd. Zyse eventually moved >from Gorzd
to Raanana, Israel in 1933 where she died in 1953. Zyse's sister was Rosa/Reisel
and married a man named BURSTEIN, and she eventually moved to Haifa where she
died.

My understanding is that many ORENSHTEYNs also settled in South Africa. Any help
is appreciated.

Please respond privately to: jrplatt@...
James Platt
***
MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget to list your
surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

Subject: The 2005 IAJGS Conference

Under the direction of our chairman, Michael Brenner, the JGS of Southern Nevada
is proud to announce that we will be on line with information on the coming
conference. As of November 7th, our web site will be up and running and on
November 25th, the registration form will also be available on line and in
downloadable format.

Carole Montello, the program chairman and her committee have lined up an
outstanding program with many new faces and subjects. She is working closely with
Davida Noyek Handler who is our SIG Coordinator and is also doing the Daily
Planner.

Carole will be issuing a call for papers on Nov. 15th. Information will be
available on our web site.

Go to www.jgssn.org and click on the link to Conference information and a link to
web registration, hotel registration

Charlotte A. Showel, President
JGS of Southern Nevada, Inc.

Subject: The 2005 IAJGS Conference

Under the direction of our chairman, Michael Brenner, the JGS of Southern Nevada
is proud to announce that we will be on line with information on the coming
conference. As of November 7th, our web site will be up and running and on
November 25th, the registration form will also be available on line and in
downloadable format.

Carole Montello, the program chairman and her committee have lined up an
outstanding program with many new faces and subjects. She is working closely with
Davida Noyek Handler who is our SIG Coordinator and is also doing the Daily
Planner.

Carole will be issuing a call for papers on Nov. 15th. Information will be
available on our web site.

Go to www.jgssn.org and click on the link to Conference information and a link to
web registration, hotel registration

Charlotte A. Showel, President
JGS of Southern Nevada, Inc.

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County Inc.
Date: November 10, 2004
Place: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach
Time: 12:30 PM: Registration, Networking and Brick Wall Session
1:00 PM: Program, followed by short business meeting

Program: "The Jews of Portugal: Their Migration to Amsterdam and Hamburg."
Eli Kavon, an adjunct instructor at Broward Community College and Jewish History
instructor in the adult education program at Nova University will lecture about
the Jews of Portugal and their migration to Amsterdam and Hamburg. He will cover
their integration into the mainstream Jewish community and their relationship with
non-Jews.

Come early for the new Brick Wall Session (12:30-1:00 PM)
Have you hit a brick wall in your research? Come learn more about our new help
program. Bring one item that has stumped you to the next meeting.
Additional information: e-mail Program Chairman Harvey Brown
torbro4@....

New Library Hours
Our Library Collection is available by appointment only Tuesday through Friday
10:00 AM to 4:00 PM. It is closed all day on the third Monday of each month and
open 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM on all other Mondays. The Library is located at the Rose
Merry L. Plough Media Resource and Reading Center, Sandler Center for Jewish Life
Enhancement at the Levis Jewish Community Center campus in Boca Raton, Florida.
Ben Karliner, Library Liaison: benkarliner@...

Upcoming Events
Annual Luncheon: Sunday, January 30, 2005
New Marriott Hotel, West Palm Beach
Guest Speaker: Miriam Weiner, renowned Professional Genealogist, author,
president of Routes to Roots Foundation
For further information contact: Natalie Hamburg : jakies75@...

JGSPBCI Mini-Conference
Wednesday, February 23, 2005
Biefield Auditorium, Sandler Center for Jewish Life Enhancement
Levis Jewish Community Center Campus, Boca Raton, Florida
Registration 8 AM
Lectures 9 AM - 5 PM
Kosher Box Lunch
Sylvia Nusinov, Chairperson: curiousyl@...
Dennis Rice, President drtigers@...

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Beach County Inc.
Date: November 10, 2004
Place: South County Civic Center, 16700 Jog Road, Delray Beach
Time: 12:30 PM: Registration, Networking and Brick Wall Session
1:00 PM: Program, followed by short business meeting

Program: "The Jews of Portugal: Their Migration to Amsterdam and Hamburg."
Eli Kavon, an adjunct instructor at Broward Community College and Jewish History
instructor in the adult education program at Nova University will lecture about
the Jews of Portugal and their migration to Amsterdam and Hamburg. He will cover
their integration into the mainstream Jewish community and their relationship with
non-Jews.

Come early for the new Brick Wall Session (12:30-1:00 PM)
Have you hit a brick wall in your research? Come learn more about our new help
program. Bring one item that has stumped you to the next meeting.
Additional information: e-mail Program Chairman Harvey Brown
torbro4@....

New Library Hours
Our Library Collection is available by appointment only Tuesday through Friday
10:00 AM to 4:00 PM. It is closed all day on the third Monday of each month and
open 1:00 PM to 4:00 PM on all other Mondays. The Library is located at the Rose
Merry L. Plough Media Resource and Reading Center, Sandler Center for Jewish Life
Enhancement at the Levis Jewish Community Center campus in Boca Raton, Florida.
Ben Karliner, Library Liaison: benkarliner@...

Upcoming Events
Annual Luncheon: Sunday, January 30, 2005
New Marriott Hotel, West Palm Beach
Guest Speaker: Miriam Weiner, renowned Professional Genealogist, author,
president of Routes to Roots Foundation
For further information contact: Natalie Hamburg : jakies75@...

JGSPBCI Mini-Conference
Wednesday, February 23, 2005
Biefield Auditorium, Sandler Center for Jewish Life Enhancement
Levis Jewish Community Center Campus, Boca Raton, Florida
Registration 8 AM
Lectures 9 AM - 5 PM
Kosher Box Lunch
Sylvia Nusinov, Chairperson: curiousyl@...
Dennis Rice, President drtigers@...

MODERATOR NOTE: We usually prefer members to write a narrative description
of the families they are researching. Those interested can request a outline
tree (like the one below) by private email.=======>

I am tracing a HOFFMANN family. The information I have is below.
I have an almost complete tree on the Jacob HOFFMANN branch but have no
information on the other branches. I Would be glad to exchange information.
Allan Hirsh, Baltimore, MD Allanhirsh@...

Descendants of Maier Hoffmann

1 Maier HOFFMANN b: Walldorf Gr
.... 2 Gumpel HOFFMANN b: Jan 1784 Walldorf Gr d: Jun 03, 1858 Walldorf Gr
........ +Levin HOHEL d: 1824
............ 3 Hanah HOFFMANN b: Apr 1812
............ 3 Mariane HOFFMANN b: 1816
............ 3 Sara HOFFMANN b: 1818
........*2nd Wife of Gumpel HOFFMANN:
............ +Hannah GUMPERT b: 1805
.............3 Karoline HOFFMANN b: Jan 21, 1826 Walldorf Gr (= Wdf.)
.............3 Rosel HOFFMANN b: Dec 21, 1828 Walldorf Gr
.............3 Maier HOFFMANN b: Feb 28, 1831 Walldorf Gr d: Walldorf
................ +Charlotte KOHLER
.............. 4 Manuel HOFFMANN b: Jul 25, 1863 Walldorf
.............. 4 Moritz HOFFMANN b: Aug 29, 1864 Walldorf
...............4 Marcus HOFFMANN b: Dec 14,1865 Walldorf d: Jun 12, 1866 Wdf.
...............4 Marie HOFFMANN b: Mar 17, 1867 Walldorf d: Apr 19, 1867 Wdf.
.............. 4 Sara HOFFMANN b: Mar 06, 1868 Walldorf
.............. 4 Emil HOFFMANN b: Jun 28, 1869 Wdf. d: Nov 11, 1869 Walldorf Gr
.............. 4 Bianca HOFFMANN b: Feb 27, 1871 Wdf d: Jul 29, 1872 Wdf.
.............. 4 Hedwig HOFFMANN b: Oct 16, 1872 Walldorf
.............. 4 Hulda HOFFMANN b: Nov 24, 1878 Walldorf Gr

........... 3 Babet HOFFMANN b: Jul 02, 1833 Walldorf Gr
........... 3 Jakob HOFFMANN b: Dec 08, 1836 Wdf d: Jul 01, 1907
Immigration: 1854
....................... +Rosa WEINBERG b: Aug 12, 1842 Virginia m: Oct 18, 1868
d: Jul 14, 1935 Altanta Ga Immigration: 1854
.............. 4 Gustavus HOFFMAN b: Aug 01, 1869 Watertown NY
d: Dec 17, 1943 Baltimore Md
............... +Lena LILIENTHAL b: Apr 07, 1881 Palatka
Ga m: Nov 14, 1900 Atlanta Ga d: Sep 20, 1942 Baltimore Md
.............. 4 Carrie HOFFMAN b: Jun 06, 1871 Providence
Ri d: Apr 12, 1872
............. 4 Rachel HOFFMAN b: Jun 06, 1871 Providence
Ri d: Dec 29, 1957 Atlanta Ga
............... +Mose HIRSCH b: Jul 25, 1868 m: Nov 07, 1897
d: Oct 09, 1928 Baltimore Md

Allan Hirsh, Baltimore, MD Allanhirsh@...

MODERATOR NOTE: We usually prefer members to write a narrative description
of the families they are researching. Those interested can request a outline
tree (like the one below) by private email.=======>

I am tracing a HOFFMANN family. The information I have is below.
I have an almost complete tree on the Jacob HOFFMANN branch but have no
information on the other branches. I Would be glad to exchange information.
Allan Hirsh, Baltimore, MD Allanhirsh@...

Descendants of Maier Hoffmann

1 Maier HOFFMANN b: Walldorf Gr
.... 2 Gumpel HOFFMANN b: Jan 1784 Walldorf Gr d: Jun 03, 1858 Walldorf Gr
........ +Levin HOHEL d: 1824
............ 3 Hanah HOFFMANN b: Apr 1812
............ 3 Mariane HOFFMANN b: 1816
............ 3 Sara HOFFMANN b: 1818
........*2nd Wife of Gumpel HOFFMANN:
............ +Hannah GUMPERT b: 1805
.............3 Karoline HOFFMANN b: Jan 21, 1826 Walldorf Gr (= Wdf.)
.............3 Rosel HOFFMANN b: Dec 21, 1828 Walldorf Gr
.............3 Maier HOFFMANN b: Feb 28, 1831 Walldorf Gr d: Walldorf
................ +Charlotte KOHLER
.............. 4 Manuel HOFFMANN b: Jul 25, 1863 Walldorf
.............. 4 Moritz HOFFMANN b: Aug 29, 1864 Walldorf
...............4 Marcus HOFFMANN b: Dec 14,1865 Walldorf d: Jun 12, 1866 Wdf.
...............4 Marie HOFFMANN b: Mar 17, 1867 Walldorf d: Apr 19, 1867 Wdf.
.............. 4 Sara HOFFMANN b: Mar 06, 1868 Walldorf
.............. 4 Emil HOFFMANN b: Jun 28, 1869 Wdf. d: Nov 11, 1869 Walldorf Gr
.............. 4 Bianca HOFFMANN b: Feb 27, 1871 Wdf d: Jul 29, 1872 Wdf.
.............. 4 Hedwig HOFFMANN b: Oct 16, 1872 Walldorf
.............. 4 Hulda HOFFMANN b: Nov 24, 1878 Walldorf Gr

........... 3 Babet HOFFMANN b: Jul 02, 1833 Walldorf Gr
........... 3 Jakob HOFFMANN b: Dec 08, 1836 Wdf d: Jul 01, 1907
Immigration: 1854
....................... +Rosa WEINBERG b: Aug 12, 1842 Virginia m: Oct 18, 1868
d: Jul 14, 1935 Altanta Ga Immigration: 1854
.............. 4 Gustavus HOFFMAN b: Aug 01, 1869 Watertown NY
d: Dec 17, 1943 Baltimore Md
............... +Lena LILIENTHAL b: Apr 07, 1881 Palatka
Ga m: Nov 14, 1900 Atlanta Ga d: Sep 20, 1942 Baltimore Md
.............. 4 Carrie HOFFMAN b: Jun 06, 1871 Providence
Ri d: Apr 12, 1872
............. 4 Rachel HOFFMAN b: Jun 06, 1871 Providence
Ri d: Dec 29, 1957 Atlanta Ga
............... +Mose HIRSCH b: Jul 25, 1868 m: Nov 07, 1897
d: Oct 09, 1928 Baltimore Md

Allan Hirsh, Baltimore, MD Allanhirsh@...

Could someone offer a logical method to extract data >from this site. (Berliner
Adressbuch Site) I tried and failed miserably..

Jim Bennett Haifa <bennett@...>

Could someone offer a logical method to extract data >from this site. (Berliner
Adressbuch Site) I tried and failed miserably..

Jim Bennett Haifa <bennett@...>

jorge@... schrieb:

I am researching the KLIPSTEIN family >from Leipzig. I have a lot of
information but I would like to contact other members of the family.
My great grandfather's Name was Aaron KLIPSTEIN, Born in 1850, Father of
Simon KLIPSTEIN who was born in 1965

My comment:
The Theresienstadt memorial Book has a listing for: KLIPSTEIN, Julius
born 23 Jul 1857
who was deported >from Berlin to Theresienstadt on 04 Jun 1942 where he
died on 02 Jul 1942.

Was he possibly a brother of Aaron's? With kind regards,

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany <fritz.neubauer@...>

PS, I also agree with the moderator's comment: "Your great grandfather was an
amazing fellow to have fathered a child at the age of 115."

jorge@... schrieb:

I am researching the KLIPSTEIN family >from Leipzig. I have a lot of
information but I would like to contact other members of the family.
My great grandfather's Name was Aaron KLIPSTEIN, Born in 1850, Father of
Simon KLIPSTEIN who was born in 1965

My comment:
The Theresienstadt memorial Book has a listing for: KLIPSTEIN, Julius
born 23 Jul 1857
who was deported >from Berlin to Theresienstadt on 04 Jun 1942 where he
died on 02 Jul 1942.

Was he possibly a brother of Aaron's? With kind regards,

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany <fritz.neubauer@...>

PS, I also agree with the moderator's comment: "Your great grandfather was an
amazing fellow to have fathered a child at the age of 115."

i believe "abish" is a yiddish nickname for "avraham". it would be unusual to include a patronymic in a patronymic.

"father natan" is a somewhat strange name to find on a jewish burial.


....... tom klein, toronto


marcplot <marcplot@...> wrote:

Marc Weiss of New York posted as follows:

"I am researching the following person, as described on his tombstone:
"SCHONFELD. Father Natan. 1867 - 1954. An honest and just man Naftali, son
of R. Avraham Abish Died on 13 Adar I, 5714"
He was born in "Austria-Hungary" and died in Wilkes-Barre, PA. He married
Tillie/Matila/Zipora KAUFMAN.
Anyone with knowledge of this person please contact me directly.

Also, can anyone help me with the name "Abish" and help me determine
whether it is Yiddish or Hebrew, the origin of this name, whether it is a
patronimic, a kinuui,etc."

Abish was a Yiddish nickname associated with the Hebrew name Avraham. It
was used in day-to-day conversations with the holder of the name, but was
never (to my knowledge) used as a formal kinui for Avraham. Thus, it would
not have been required to be written in a Get (Jewish divorce contract),
but might have been used this way sometimes. Other Yiddish nicknames and
formal kinuim for the Hebrew name Avraham can be seen on the Hungary Given
Names Data Base on the JewishGen web site:

< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/ >

by searching for the name Avraham.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel