I am interested in locating someone to do some research in the Kiev
Archives. I notice that there have been a couple of comments on this. Has anyone
had any experience with this that they could share with me?

B. Holland

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I am interested in locating someone to do some research in the Kiev
Archives. I notice that there have been a couple of comments on this. Has anyone
had any experience with this that they could share with me?

B. Holland

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I have been told that the first names of HERSCHEL TZVI (or, alternatively,
TZVI HERSCHEL) and ARYEH LEIB are fairly common combinations, and much has
been written to this Sig about the meanings of these names.

Yet in my branch of the SEGAL family, hailing >from Czarist Lithuania, c.
1880 (our calendar), there apparently is the first name of HERSCHEL LEIB.

Has anyone else heard of this particular combination?

Thank you,
Judy Segal
New York City, USA

I have been told that the first names of HERSCHEL TZVI (or, alternatively,
TZVI HERSCHEL) and ARYEH LEIB are fairly common combinations, and much has
been written to this Sig about the meanings of these names.

Yet in my branch of the SEGAL family, hailing >from Czarist Lithuania, c.
1880 (our calendar), there apparently is the first name of HERSCHEL LEIB.

Has anyone else heard of this particular combination?

Thank you,
Judy Segal
New York City, USA

Gesher Galicia would like to announce that we will be holding our first
regional meeting in New York City on:

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 14th

10:30AM - 12:45PM at:

The Center for Jewish History
15 West 16th Street
New York, NY 10011

The meeting will take place in the Steinberg Great Hall on the main level.
We are currently planning an exciting and varied program, both for
experienced Galician researchers and those who are new to this field, and
will be announcing the details shortly.

After the meeting adjourns at 12:45PM we will break off into regional
research and town groups for lunch, either at the Center or at neighborhood
restaurants, which will provide additional opportunities for
birds-of-a-feather networking. Again...specifics will be forthcoming.

For more information on the Center for Jewish History's facilities,
directions and parking options, please go to their website:

http://www.cjh.org

Note that although their posted opening time on Sunday is 11AM, people
attending our meeting will be allowed in prior to 10:30AM.

We look forward to seeing you there.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

Shelley Pollero
Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

pweisberger@...

Gesher Galicia would like to announce that we will be holding our first
regional meeting in New York City on:

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 14th

10:30AM - 12:45PM at:

The Center for Jewish History
15 West 16th Street
New York, NY 10011

The meeting will take place in the Steinberg Great Hall on the main level.
We are currently planning an exciting and varied program, both for
experienced Galician researchers and those who are new to this field, and
will be announcing the details shortly.

After the meeting adjourns at 12:45PM we will break off into regional
research and town groups for lunch, either at the Center or at neighborhood
restaurants, which will provide additional opportunities for
birds-of-a-feather networking. Again...specifics will be forthcoming.

For more information on the Center for Jewish History's facilities,
directions and parking options, please go to their website:

http://www.cjh.org

Note that although their posted opening time on Sunday is 11AM, people
attending our meeting will be allowed in prior to 10:30AM.

We look forward to seeing you there.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

Shelley Pollero
Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

pweisberger@...

Wednesday, October 27 at 2:00 PM, a very special guest lecturer will address the
JGS Broward County, Florida.

The meeting will be held at the Soref Jewish Community Center, 6501 West Sunrise
Boulevard in Plantation. The community center is between Florida's Turnpike and
University Drive on the north side of Sunrise Boulevard

Genealogy is the key to the past. For some genealogists, it may lead to the
startling discovery of roots they never imagined-Jewish roots.

Gloria Mound, who was a presenter at the 24th annual International Genealogical
Society conference in Jerusalem, will discuss the connection at the society's
October meeting.

Founder and executive director of the Casa Shalom Institute for Marrano-Anusim
Studies in Gan Yavneh, Israel, Ms. Mound will talk about "The Importance of
Genealogy in Marrano-Converso Research" with an emphasis on how much South Florida
is an example.

An honorary research fellow of the Department of Hispanic Studies at the
University of Glasgow (Scotland) >from 1988 to 2003, Ms. Mound has published
widely, including the Encyclopedia Judaica. Included in the institute's work is
an on-going project with the University of Miami researching the Marrano aspects
of early immigration >from the Spanish Balearics to Florida and Cuba. Ms. Mound's
research has uncovered hitherto unknown Jewish communities around the world. The
Casa Shalom Institute maintains a library and data base tracing Marrano evolution

from the 16th Century to the present. The institute works are reconnecting these

"lost Marranos" with the Jewish community and individuals with their Jewish
genealogy.

Admission is free and open to all wishing to further their interest in genealogy.

For additional information check out the Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward
County website at www.JGSBroward.org .

Elaine L. Kaplan, Secretary
JGSBroward County

Wednesday, October 27 at 2:00 PM, a very special guest lecturer will address the
JGS Broward County, Florida.

The meeting will be held at the Soref Jewish Community Center, 6501 West Sunrise
Boulevard in Plantation. The community center is between Florida's Turnpike and
University Drive on the north side of Sunrise Boulevard

Genealogy is the key to the past. For some genealogists, it may lead to the
startling discovery of roots they never imagined-Jewish roots.

Gloria Mound, who was a presenter at the 24th annual International Genealogical
Society conference in Jerusalem, will discuss the connection at the society's
October meeting.

Founder and executive director of the Casa Shalom Institute for Marrano-Anusim
Studies in Gan Yavneh, Israel, Ms. Mound will talk about "The Importance of
Genealogy in Marrano-Converso Research" with an emphasis on how much South Florida
is an example.

An honorary research fellow of the Department of Hispanic Studies at the
University of Glasgow (Scotland) >from 1988 to 2003, Ms. Mound has published
widely, including the Encyclopedia Judaica. Included in the institute's work is
an on-going project with the University of Miami researching the Marrano aspects
of early immigration >from the Spanish Balearics to Florida and Cuba. Ms. Mound's
research has uncovered hitherto unknown Jewish communities around the world. The
Casa Shalom Institute maintains a library and data base tracing Marrano evolution

from the 16th Century to the present. The institute works are reconnecting these

"lost Marranos" with the Jewish community and individuals with their Jewish
genealogy.

Admission is free and open to all wishing to further their interest in genealogy.

For additional information check out the Jewish Genealogical Society of Broward
County website at www.JGSBroward.org .

Elaine L. Kaplan, Secretary
JGSBroward County

Leiah Elbaum <elbaum@...>
asked

".............. the family involvement in "working shpania"
(I believe the word is Yiddish, I never saw the term written), a cottage
industry which was common in that area in late 19th and
early 20th centuries. It was a kind of metal thread embroidery technique,
used especially for the ornate collars (atarot, atoros) of tallitot
(talleisim), but also on yarmulkes and ornamental bibs worn by women for
special occasions. I was told that Jews came >from all around Europe and
even the US to purchase "spania" work for their communities.

.........................

I'm curious whether anyone else can tell me more about this tradition in
the region, any useful resources for researching it ...................."

The Hebrew memoirs of Rabbi Osher Miller (of Romania) were published by his
son Rabbi Pinchos Miller (then rabbi of Upper Nazareth) in Jerusalem 1984
entitled "Oilomoi shel Abba". The work, which includes many rabbinical
genealogical charts, describes life between the two World Wars in Romania
and Hungary in dozens of Orthodox Communities. It includes many piquant
tales and gives interesting vignettes of urban and rural life.

Unfortunately the work has no index. However, if my memory serves me
correctly there is a description of a certain townlet or village which
produced woven silver "atorot" for Talesim for most of Europe. A local
chassidic entrepeneur set up the business and supplied his many female
outworkers with the raw materials.

In his later years he delegated all the actual labour, but when the
Muncatcher Rebbe's (R' Chaim Elozor Shapiro) daughter was getting
married,he provided his own handiwork.

Leslie Reich, Manchester, UK

Leiah Elbaum <elbaum@...>
asked

".............. the family involvement in "working shpania"
(I believe the word is Yiddish, I never saw the term written), a cottage
industry which was common in that area in late 19th and
early 20th centuries. It was a kind of metal thread embroidery technique,
used especially for the ornate collars (atarot, atoros) of tallitot
(talleisim), but also on yarmulkes and ornamental bibs worn by women for
special occasions. I was told that Jews came >from all around Europe and
even the US to purchase "spania" work for their communities.

.........................

I'm curious whether anyone else can tell me more about this tradition in
the region, any useful resources for researching it ...................."

The Hebrew memoirs of Rabbi Osher Miller (of Romania) were published by his
son Rabbi Pinchos Miller (then rabbi of Upper Nazareth) in Jerusalem 1984
entitled "Oilomoi shel Abba". The work, which includes many rabbinical
genealogical charts, describes life between the two World Wars in Romania
and Hungary in dozens of Orthodox Communities. It includes many piquant
tales and gives interesting vignettes of urban and rural life.

Unfortunately the work has no index. However, if my memory serves me
correctly there is a description of a certain townlet or village which
produced woven silver "atorot" for Talesim for most of Europe. A local
chassidic entrepeneur set up the business and supplied his many female
outworkers with the raw materials.

In his later years he delegated all the actual labour, but when the
Muncatcher Rebbe's (R' Chaim Elozor Shapiro) daughter was getting
married,he provided his own handiwork.

Leslie Reich, Manchester, UK

The President of C.R.I.F. the roof organization of
French Jewry is also CUKIERMAN.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

The President of C.R.I.F. the roof organization of
French Jewry is also CUKIERMAN.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

Gesher Galicia would like to announce that its first
regional meeting will be held in New York City on:

Sunday, November 14th, 2004

10:30AM - 12:45PM at:

The Center for Jewish History
15 West 16th Street
New York, NY 10011

The meeting will take place in the Steinberg Great Hall on the main level.
We are currently planning an exciting and varied program, both for
experienced Galician researchers and those who are new to this field, and
will be announcing the details shortly.

After the meeting adjourns at 12:45PM we will break off into regional
research and town groups for lunch, either at the Center or at neighborhood
restaurants, which will provide additional opportunities for
birds-of-a-feather networking. Again...specifics will be forthcoming.

For more information on the Center for Jewish History's facilities,
directions and parking options, please go to their website:

http://www.cjh.org

Note that although their posted opening time on Sunday is 11AM, people
attending our meeting will be allowed in prior to 10:30AM.

All are welcome to attend. We look forward to seeing you there.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

Shelley K. Pollero
Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

pweisberger@...

Gesher Galicia would like to announce that its first
regional meeting will be held in New York City on:

Sunday, November 14th, 2004

10:30AM - 12:45PM at:

The Center for Jewish History
15 West 16th Street
New York, NY 10011

The meeting will take place in the Steinberg Great Hall on the main level.
We are currently planning an exciting and varied program, both for
experienced Galician researchers and those who are new to this field, and
will be announcing the details shortly.

After the meeting adjourns at 12:45PM we will break off into regional
research and town groups for lunch, either at the Center or at neighborhood
restaurants, which will provide additional opportunities for
birds-of-a-feather networking. Again...specifics will be forthcoming.

For more information on the Center for Jewish History's facilities,
directions and parking options, please go to their website:

http://www.cjh.org

Note that although their posted opening time on Sunday is 11AM, people
attending our meeting will be allowed in prior to 10:30AM.

All are welcome to attend. We look forward to seeing you there.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

Shelley K. Pollero
Coordinator, Gesher Galicia

pweisberger@...

No, you may not assume. Not all Zucker used to be Zuckerman.

Israel Pickholtz

Quoting Gesher Galicia SIG digest <galicia@...>:

No, you may not assume. Not all Zucker used to be Zuckerman.

Israel Pickholtz

Quoting Gesher Galicia SIG digest <galicia@...>:

My grandfather, Bercu FEISBOH, was born in 1880 in Piatra and emigrated to
France in the early 1900s. I have been unable to trace either the family
name or any roots in Roumania. Any lead would be appreciated.

Bernard FAIBEAUX
Cologne, Germany

My grandfather, Bercu FEISBOH, was born in 1880 in Piatra and emigrated to
France in the early 1900s. I have been unable to trace either the family
name or any roots in Roumania. Any lead would be appreciated.

Bernard FAIBEAUX
Cologne, Germany

Could such French names such as Valyntin or Valentin be showing up stemming from
the time when France controlled Rheinland Pfalz (the Rhineland Palatinate region)
in the 17th century?

Certainly many other times in Franco-German history that French names and
cognates could have undergone intercultural transference / exchange. Sincerely,

Marcus Poulin Spokane, WA USA searching OBERT, OBERSTEIN Germany

Could such French names such as Valyntin or Valentin be showing up stemming from
the time when France controlled Rheinland Pfalz (the Rhineland Palatinate region)
in the 17th century?

Certainly many other times in Franco-German history that French names and
cognates could have undergone intercultural transference / exchange. Sincerely,

Marcus Poulin Spokane, WA USA searching OBERT, OBERSTEIN Germany