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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Expulsion and went to Rostov-on-Don
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Roman Vilner <rvilner@...>
it appears that there is some confusion here.. original discussion was
referring to expulsion in 1915, which was during WWI (one), while Linda Morzillo seems to be talking about the evacuation, not expulsion that took place during WWII (two), when many Jews were in fact evacuated to central asia. Roman Vilner Brooklyn, NY Vilner, Lieberman, Pinchuk - Mogilev/Gorky, Belarus Shmulenson- Vinnitsa, Ukraine I'd like to clarify what Meri-Jane Rochelson wrote about her father's family: There was a major expulsion of Jews >from Lithuania in June 1915. My father's family, in Kovno, ended up in Rostov, Russia and stayed there until 1921. (If they had not returned to Kovno, the Holocaust would not have found them.) During research pertaining to my maternal grandfather who was born in 1882 in Rostov, (known as Rostov-on-Don), I learned that many of the Jewish population left Rostov before or during the time that the Germans arrived. |
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Re: Expulsion and went to Rostov-on-Don
#lithuania
Roman Vilner <rvilner@...>
it appears that there is some confusion here.. original discussion was
referring to expulsion in 1915, which was during WWI (one), while Linda Morzillo seems to be talking about the evacuation, not expulsion that took place during WWII (two), when many Jews were in fact evacuated to central asia. Roman Vilner Brooklyn, NY Vilner, Lieberman, Pinchuk - Mogilev/Gorky, Belarus Shmulenson- Vinnitsa, Ukraine I'd like to clarify what Meri-Jane Rochelson wrote about her father's family: There was a major expulsion of Jews >from Lithuania in June 1915. My father's family, in Kovno, ended up in Rostov, Russia and stayed there until 1921. (If they had not returned to Kovno, the Holocaust would not have found them.) During research pertaining to my maternal grandfather who was born in 1882 in Rostov, (known as Rostov-on-Don), I learned that many of the Jewish population left Rostov before or during the time that the Germans arrived. |
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Help understanding the 1878 revision list
#lithuania
Howard Margol <homargol@...>
<<Michael Goldstein asks - The former registration of family members I
located on the 1878 revision list was 14/14. I came across other families on different pages whose former registration numbers were also 14/14. Is there a connection between these people? Does this mean that these people (or some of them) were part of the same household in the previous revision and are related?>> Several explanations are possible. Both families could have been living together at the time of a previous census and were related. Or, they could have been sharing the same house or apartment but were not related. Or, some of the individuals could have been living with a family previously but were not related - they were servants, or boarders. Additional research of other records may prove which scenario is correct. Howard Margol Email: homargol@... |
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Help understanding the 1878 revision list
#lithuania
Howard Margol <homargol@...>
<<Michael Goldstein asks - The former registration of family members I
located on the 1878 revision list was 14/14. I came across other families on different pages whose former registration numbers were also 14/14. Is there a connection between these people? Does this mean that these people (or some of them) were part of the same household in the previous revision and are related?>> Several explanations are possible. Both families could have been living together at the time of a previous census and were related. Or, they could have been sharing the same house or apartment but were not related. Or, some of the individuals could have been living with a family previously but were not related - they were servants, or boarders. Additional research of other records may prove which scenario is correct. Howard Margol Email: homargol@... |
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Translation: help, please! Afrikaans to English
#southafrica
Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
In the catalogue of the National Archives of S.
Africa I have come across an entry, dated 1877, which contains some Afrikaans, which does not make 100% sense to me - sadly, I do not read nor speak the language. The Description of the record reads: " SELIGMANN, JACOB. INSOLVENTE BOEDEL" And the Remarks section contains: " BEVAT GEEN STERFKENNIS NIE. " Without actually looking up the document, is it possible to divine what it may be about? What is the meaning and the legal(?) significance of the words "Bevat geen sterfkennis nie" ? My interest in this is that "SELIGMANN, Jacob" may have been related to me! Adam Yamey, London UK <adamandlopa@...> *** Insolvent estate - contains no death notice. - Moderator |
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Translation: help, please! Afrikaans to English
#southafrica
Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
In the catalogue of the National Archives of S.
Africa I have come across an entry, dated 1877, which contains some Afrikaans, which does not make 100% sense to me - sadly, I do not read nor speak the language. The Description of the record reads: " SELIGMANN, JACOB. INSOLVENTE BOEDEL" And the Remarks section contains: " BEVAT GEEN STERFKENNIS NIE. " Without actually looking up the document, is it possible to divine what it may be about? What is the meaning and the legal(?) significance of the words "Bevat geen sterfkennis nie" ? My interest in this is that "SELIGMANN, Jacob" may have been related to me! Adam Yamey, London UK <adamandlopa@...> *** Insolvent estate - contains no death notice. - Moderator |
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica September Newsletter
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Beryl.b <balden@...>
For those members who received the September Newsletter please note that
the following was omitted >from the Conference report on the Southern African Session - on Wednesday July 7. A short presentation by Dave Bloom, formerly of Zimbabwe, now living in Israel, was given. Dave is in the process of building up a site on 100 years of Zimbabwean Jewry, to record the history and details of this unique period for the benefit of current and future generations. A short video clip showing the political/sociological situation in Zimbabwe through the eyes of young children, led to a question session mainly from Israeli attendees, who were very interested to see how the Jewish Community in Zimbabwe is living to-day. See: http://www.zjc.org.il/ Beryl Baleson balden@... Israel |
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September Newsletter
#southafrica
Beryl.b <balden@...>
For those members who received the September Newsletter please note that
the following was omitted >from the Conference report on the Southern African Session - on Wednesday July 7. A short presentation by Dave Bloom, formerly of Zimbabwe, now living in Israel, was given. Dave is in the process of building up a site on 100 years of Zimbabwean Jewry, to record the history and details of this unique period for the benefit of current and future generations. A short video clip showing the political/sociological situation in Zimbabwe through the eyes of young children, led to a question session mainly from Israeli attendees, who were very interested to see how the Jewish Community in Zimbabwe is living to-day. See: http://www.zjc.org.il/ Beryl Baleson balden@... Israel |
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Nochomowitz
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Richard Newman <genserch@...>
There was the Nochomowitz family in CTown, Issy N, had a sewing machine
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business, a brother in Parow with a bottle store, and Bessie, married Kurt Kaufman (a Woolworths manager). The family was >from Ritave in Lithuania, not acknowledged in the literature. There are still children and g-children in CTown and two daughters (and families) in the south of Israel. Richard Newman ----- Original Message ----- |
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Re: Nochomowitz
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Richard Newman <genserch@...>
There was the Nochomowitz family in CTown, Issy N, had a sewing machine
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business, a brother in Parow with a bottle store, and Bessie, married Kurt Kaufman (a Woolworths manager). The family was >from Ritave in Lithuania, not acknowledged in the literature. There are still children and g-children in CTown and two daughters (and families) in the south of Israel. Richard Newman ----- Original Message ----- |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Erecting a gravestone in Vienna; email address of cemetery bureau
#general
Verein SCHALOM <verein@...>
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you will find more informations specially about what you are asking for on our website: http://www.schalom.at This website is about jewish cemeteries and graves in Austria. You will find some informations as well as contact addresses, telephone- and faxnumbers. Our office is daily open (mo-fr) and located beside the Gate 4 of the Wiener Zentralfriedhof. Regards Mag. Walter Pagler < Verein Schalom > My grandfather is buried in the Zentralfriedhof IV. Tor cemetery in Vienna. I am contemplating arranging for the erection of such a stone. Can anyone MODERATOR NOTE: The requested information is available on the BOHemia - MORavia |
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Erecting a gravestone in Vienna; email address of cemetery bureau
#general
Verein SCHALOM <verein@...>
Hello,
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you will find more informations specially about what you are asking for on our website: http://www.schalom.at This website is about jewish cemeteries and graves in Austria. You will find some informations as well as contact addresses, telephone- and faxnumbers. Our office is daily open (mo-fr) and located beside the Gate 4 of the Wiener Zentralfriedhof. Regards Mag. Walter Pagler < Verein Schalom > My grandfather is buried in the Zentralfriedhof IV. Tor cemetery in Vienna. I am contemplating arranging for the erection of such a stone. Can anyone MODERATOR NOTE: The requested information is available on the BOHemia - MORavia |
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SEEKING ENGLISH-SPEAKING FAMILY RESEARCHER
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Dorothy Agronick <j-dagronick@...>
I would deeply appreciate recommendations of reliable family
researchers located in Belarus. Thank you for your kind assistance. With respect, Joseph P. Agronick Rancho Palos Verdes, California (310) 377-3469 MODERATOR: Please reply privately mailto:j-dagronick@... |
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Belarus SIG #Belarus SEEKING ENGLISH-SPEAKING FAMILY RESEARCHER
#belarus
Dorothy Agronick <j-dagronick@...>
I would deeply appreciate recommendations of reliable family
researchers located in Belarus. Thank you for your kind assistance. With respect, Joseph P. Agronick Rancho Palos Verdes, California (310) 377-3469 MODERATOR: Please reply privately mailto:j-dagronick@... |
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ekaterinoslav Jews "ancestors"
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NFatouros@...
In a message dated 10/11/04 8:09:01 PM, Eugene Kaplan
(costanza2202@...) wrote in part: << My ancestors are from Ekaterinaslav. as far as I know >from various sources, jews were transfered >from the Baltic states to the agricultural colonies around Ekaterinaslav. however, I havent seen any information on how the jewish community originated in the city of Ekaterinaslav. If anybody knows anything about this, or where I would be able to find this out, please let me know. My second question is this. I heard that after WW2, all archives >from Ekaterinaslav were moved >from the city. Does anybody know where they were moved? When seeking information >from one's computer desk, it's a good practice to first search the Internet before posing questions to a mail group. In Mr. Kaplan's case, typing in the google search engine at www.google.com the terms "Ekaterinoslav and Jews" or "Yekaterinoslav and Jews," or Dnepropretrovsk and Jews" can pull up a lot of interesting URLs. For instance, has Mr. Kaplan discovered a list of "Jews Registered in Ekaterinoslav in 1847"? It can be viewed at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Colonies_of_Ukraine/AppendixL.htm Another website: http://members.tripod.com/oriental_studies/Goncharov/Goncharov2.html has an article by Vladimir Goncharov of Donetsk University about the Jews of Yuzovka, a mining town, in the region of Ekaterinoslav. At: http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/yekat.htm Mr. Kaplan can read Chaim Freedman's article about Jews who lived in the Yekaterinoslav gubernia. Mr. Freedman knows a lot about Jewish colonists. His email address can be found in the Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives. Using various search terms, still more about Jews of the Ekaterinoslav (or Dnepropetrovsk) region can be found on the Internet. As I told Mr. Kaplan earlier today in private message, there are some Jewish records for Dnepropetrovsk and its region in the Kiev archives, but most Jewish Records for Ekaterinoslav are located in Dnepropetrovsk, according to Miri am Weiner, author of "Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova." I know nothing about records having been moved >from Dnepropetrovsk after WW II. Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN) Bloomington, Indiana NFatouros@... BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev, Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna. |
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Re: Ekaterinoslav Jews "ancestors"
#ukraine
NFatouros@...
In a message dated 10/11/04 8:09:01 PM, Eugene Kaplan
(costanza2202@...) wrote in part: << My ancestors are from Ekaterinaslav. as far as I know >from various sources, jews were transfered >from the Baltic states to the agricultural colonies around Ekaterinaslav. however, I havent seen any information on how the jewish community originated in the city of Ekaterinaslav. If anybody knows anything about this, or where I would be able to find this out, please let me know. My second question is this. I heard that after WW2, all archives >from Ekaterinaslav were moved >from the city. Does anybody know where they were moved? When seeking information >from one's computer desk, it's a good practice to first search the Internet before posing questions to a mail group. In Mr. Kaplan's case, typing in the google search engine at www.google.com the terms "Ekaterinoslav and Jews" or "Yekaterinoslav and Jews," or Dnepropretrovsk and Jews" can pull up a lot of interesting URLs. For instance, has Mr. Kaplan discovered a list of "Jews Registered in Ekaterinoslav in 1847"? It can be viewed at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Colonies_of_Ukraine/AppendixL.htm Another website: http://members.tripod.com/oriental_studies/Goncharov/Goncharov2.html has an article by Vladimir Goncharov of Donetsk University about the Jews of Yuzovka, a mining town, in the region of Ekaterinoslav. At: http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/yekat.htm Mr. Kaplan can read Chaim Freedman's article about Jews who lived in the Yekaterinoslav gubernia. Mr. Freedman knows a lot about Jewish colonists. His email address can be found in the Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives. Using various search terms, still more about Jews of the Ekaterinoslav (or Dnepropetrovsk) region can be found on the Internet. As I told Mr. Kaplan earlier today in private message, there are some Jewish records for Dnepropetrovsk and its region in the Kiev archives, but most Jewish Records for Ekaterinoslav are located in Dnepropetrovsk, according to Miri am Weiner, author of "Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova." I know nothing about records having been moved >from Dnepropetrovsk after WW II. Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN) Bloomington, Indiana NFatouros@... BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev, Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna. |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Itzeles (Yiddish?) = Isaiah (Hebrew)?
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Benzy Shani <bshani@...>
I believe this is the Yiddish version of Yitzchak.
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Re: Itzeles (Yiddish?) = Isaiah (Hebrew)?
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Benzy Shani <bshani@...>
I believe this is the Yiddish version of Yitzchak.
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Benzy Shani < s.levin@... > wrote: Can anyone tell me the translation of the name *Itzeles*? Is it Yiddish for |
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Abram SZWARC and Sura RUBINSZTAJN
#general
JAP972@...
Hello,
i'm hoping somebody might recognize this name,they are my great grandparents,they are >from Tuszyn,Poland, Thank you very much Sherry Schernbeck Jap972@... searching for BLADY,HECHT,SZWARC,and SADOWSKI |
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Abram SZWARC and Sura RUBINSZTAJN
#general
JAP972@...
Hello,
i'm hoping somebody might recognize this name,they are my great grandparents,they are >from Tuszyn,Poland, Thank you very much Sherry Schernbeck Jap972@... searching for BLADY,HECHT,SZWARC,and SADOWSKI |
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